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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Marion.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: How are you really good?

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Speaker 1: Although unfortunately more issues with crime overnight all these vehicles stolen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, and this was the same with Alice Sprangs, Katie,

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Speaker 1: You know, two hundred and fifty million dollars for Central Australia.

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Speaker 3: We have to make a difference with this money taking.

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Speaker 1: Are You'll be hard pressed to find anybody who disagrees

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Speaker 1: So, Marion, have the Northern Territory government asked you for

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Speaker 3: in terms of the top end because whilst we've focused

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Speaker 3: been in Central Australia, we do need to look at

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Speaker 3: the whole of the Northern Territory and you know that's

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Speaker 3: I know that certainly Natasha. I know Chancey Pate for

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Speaker 3: Kate Warden as well, and now that they've resolved the issues,

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Speaker 3: I think with the Commissioner, I think the Acting Commissioner,

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of respects for Michael Murphy and

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Speaker 3: I think we just need to work with him to

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Speaker 3: get the police resourcing and other you know, other funding

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Speaker 3: to organizations that are at the cold face of all

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Speaker 3: of these matters, but work with the business community because

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Speaker 3: if our economy gets hit because of the crime, we're

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Speaker 3: going to see people shut shop and leave the territory

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Speaker 3: and that's not good for the territory economy. So you know,

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Speaker 3: they need to there needs to be less spitten. There

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Speaker 3: needs to be you know, sometimes the are heads have

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Speaker 3: to come out of the sand and we need to

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Speaker 3: address the bleeding obvious that there is a major issue

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Speaker 3: in Darwin and you know in a lot of our

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Speaker 3: remote community as well.

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Speaker 1: Marion, we are going to have to cut it short

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Speaker 1: because we've got to head off to the National news.

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time and we will talk to

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Speaker 1: you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: No worries.

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Speaker 3: I always enjoy talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Katie's marrying, Yeah, you two. Thank you