1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Get a and welcome to Fearlessly Failing. First things first, Boss, 6 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: and I've got a little bit of news. We are 7 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: moving from Talks Talkie on the surf coast of Victoria 8 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to Byron Bay this week, so we'll keep you posted 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: in the upcoming apps. But we are super pumped and 10 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: so excited to build our little home in Byron Bay. 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Today's guest, Well, I'm going to put it out there 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and say that this is the most request a guest 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: we have had on the show thus far. Drum roll please. 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Emmy Lou. She is unstoppable and unapologetically herself. We're talking 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: TV host self made as well, might I say, like 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: build her own following on socials. She produces everything she does, 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: she writes everything she does. She's got no filter. She's 18 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: really worked hard, starting in community television, and now she's 19 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: got a Christmas special coming out on Network ten on 20 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: the thirteenth of December. I've got that one in my 21 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: diary because I love Christmas, and I think her recipe 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: is going to be unreal. Emmy Lou shares her life 23 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: and some stuff from back in the past. It was 24 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: a bit tougher too. She's got no filter at all. 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: She's a breath of fresh air. I hope that you 26 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: love Emmy lu McCarthy as much as I do. Emmy Lou. 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: I am so pumped to have you here, dude. You 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: are the most requested guest on this podcast ever, and 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: you've interviewed me twice, so we're actually switching shoes today's say. 30 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: And I remember being so nervous the first time I 31 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: had to interview you in front of Happy Happy Place, 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: your smoothie bar mate. 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: And I remember I had been at yo. I remember 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I've been at yoga. I was getting changed at yoke 35 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: upstairs at that Little Heart, and I was getting changed. 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be late. I'm gonna be late. 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: Run you. 38 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I remember you greet me with the biggest booming smile. 39 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: And anyway, I want to talk more. We've got plenty 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: of memories. Let's get on to you. Producer, writer, TV host, author, 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: training as an actor as am. I. 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a loose term. 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: Let's just enjoy it, go with it. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a hobby. 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you never know exactly, you never know. I 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: have also been watching all your behind the scenes of 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: your Christmas special, which is coming out on the thirteenth 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: of December. 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the thirteenth of December on Channel ten. Very excited 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: about that. 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: And I'm obsessing a. You wore these gold shoes on 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: the first day of the shoot and I was like, oh, Mike, 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: you style yourself fully, don't you. 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so all the wardrobe is styled by me. 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've actually done training in that, haven't you. 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I did do that just when I 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: was just coming out of you know, Matt leave and 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: having the three babies. You know, I started work at 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Gorman just as a retail assistant, and I think it 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: was only two shifts, three shifts. 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to do a styling course. 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: Just I just wanted to feel really confident in helping 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: people in the war in the you know, the. 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: Try on rooms and changing rooms, and. 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: So I went into that, which then sparked my love 66 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: of presenting again. 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't you like, like finish your styling course and 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: then be like, I'm going to hire a videographer and 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch more to fashion and. 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Walk around Chadstone and like pitch this like styling video too. 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: And I had no idea. I'd never presented camera, never 72 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: hired a videographer. You know, didn't even realize you needed 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: permits to film and chatty, you know what I mean. 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Just I just grew off half. 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: I walked in, walked into one of the stores. 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: Hey, do you mind if we're just film a little 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: bit here. I'm just gonna grab a couple of things 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: off the rack and talk about the dresses. And you know, 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: obviously retail staff are really lovely and did anything of 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: it. It was quite Looking back, I think, oh god, you're 81 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: allowed to do that. 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: So you have been such a dream to research because 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: your life is so colorful. And if I go all 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: the way back and go over all your past and everything, 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: we could spend four hours here because you've had you 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: moved out of home at fourteen. Yeah, Western Australian girl, 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: is that right? 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Last time you and I caught up in real life, 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: which was in talkie in between the two different lockdowns, 91 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: you were like, yeah, man, I skydived for. 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: And you did your full salt so you could solo jump. Yeah. 93 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did my aff I think that's what's 94 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: been so long since I've done accelerated free full course. 95 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: So yeah. So you go and you do like three 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: days of like in the classroom, you do that. 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Then you go out and you actually, you know, work 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: for a day just in a harness on the ground, 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: and then you go up and you do your jump. 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: You're not solo for those first few You've got two 101 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: instructors holding on to you, but you do have your 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: own shoots, so you're pull on your own shoe. 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: You're landing yourself. 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: It is the fucking scariest thing, yeah, ever, because you 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: are obviously you've got your instructors there to pull the 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: shoot for you, but you do have to land on 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: your own, and obviously you get to take you Once 108 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: that parachute opens, there is this deafening silence in the 109 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: air and you realize, yes, it's totally solely up to you, 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: but there's also the elements you know, turbulence and things 111 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: like that that can collapse your shoot and things like that, 112 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: and it really it was such a I even get goosebumps. 113 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Now it's been so long since I've jumped. But yeah, 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: then I went on to jump for ages after that 115 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: and in the moody. I've jumped so many times in 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: the mood it's ridiculous. 117 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I love a bit. 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's fine. 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Some people do ten ways, which is where you jump 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: with ten other people and stuff. But for milestone, So 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: for my hundredth birthday, it was in a pink G 122 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: string with a crop top. 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: But I had one hundred written on my chest and 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: that's your hundredths jump. 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: That was my hundred and I flashed, like you know, 126 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: as I was about to jump out, flash my hundred 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: one hundred. But you remember, like twenty three years old, 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: like I just, I was very free girl, loving it. 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: And but you know what's so funny about that is 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: I was in the pink G string and there were 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: those g strings you buy from like. 132 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Is this amazing going for gold amazing? 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: They were g strings that you buy from like a 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: sex shop, so they clip on the sides for easy, yeah, 135 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: undoing access anyway. So because I was jumping and that 136 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, so much velocity, I sticky taped my sides 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: and my beautiful pink g string just so they wouldn't 138 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: fly off in the air. But then, I mean, one 139 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: hundred jumps, you're still very much a novice, and I've 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: obviously I was super excited one hundred jump, exhilarated from 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: doing it pretty much nude, all that kind of stuff. 142 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: I actually landed down wind, so that means that I'm 143 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: landing with the wind, which is not what you meant 144 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: to do to land the opposite way. 145 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: Landing was never one of my strong points, and so 146 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: I landed down when on. 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: Gravel and just completely carved my whole butt because I 148 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: landed on my butt gravel. 149 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: But then we have we had a pool. 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: The drop zone that I was at was York in 151 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: w a York skydiving I mean, what's the skydiving drops 152 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: one in York, And so I'd come in with my parachute, 153 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: I popped it down, I took my alternator off, and 154 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: then I got grabbed by all the skydivers and they 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: threw me into the pool and pied me in the face. 156 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: So then it was just a matter of like gravel 157 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: rash in the cold pool, shaving cream high in my fading, 158 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is really. 159 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: I was so good, but not as glamorous as when 160 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: you say skydiving. Now do you know what I mean? 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Totally totally thank you for like making that a very 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: graphic but amazing. Do you know one question I have 163 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: about skydiving. I've skydived once, and I feel like when 164 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: you land and I did it with a mate, and 165 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: when we both landed, to get this like jack up, 166 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: not to get on nutritiony of dopamine and serotonin in 167 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: your brain and kind I had a crush on this 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: best friend for ages, even though I knew I didn't 169 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: like him, but it was because we went through this 170 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: life changing thing together. And for the next two weeks, 171 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: while we had those real high dovein levels, we were like, 172 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: can we just hang out? And we just wanted to 173 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: hang out and be near each other just because we've 174 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: been because you feel like you can conquer anything. And 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: I tell people, people go, oh, you know, what's the 176 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: scaryes scene or the best seam? And I'm like, skydiving 177 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: and I swam with whale sharks. There are two things. 178 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Because it makes you realize and it puts things into perspective. 179 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: We're pretty little, yeah, in the scheme of life exactly. 180 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: And that's actually it's funny because that camaraderie you felt 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: with your friend, that's what it's like in the drop 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: zone as well. So you know, you're skydiving with your 183 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: mates at first, maybe they're not your mates as well, 184 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: and you're skydiving with them and you're hanging out with 185 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: them all day. 186 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: You're going up and down in planes, and so you do. 187 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: You have that beautiful community, and it's something that you 188 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: when you first give up skydiving, it's something that you 189 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: miss a lot or you know, like for me, the 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: tragedy happened where a friend of mine died while we 191 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: were skydiving, and I continued to skydive, but it rocked 192 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: our whole community and. 193 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: You could you could see it, you could feel it. 194 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: It was broken because we were just you know, it's 195 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: something that we love to do, and you know, and 196 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: I slowly pulled away not from the people, but just 197 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: from the sport because I eventually just felt scared. I 198 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 2: didn't know, and I had to come to terms with like, 199 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I this scares me now, I don't want to do 200 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: it anymore. 201 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: And I had to be okay with that. 202 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: But there was a lot of years there where I 203 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: felt a huge sense of loneliness because it was all 204 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: of a sudden gone the sport and the community. 205 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've heard you speak about that tragedy before, 206 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: and I was the first time I heard you speak 207 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: about it. I was listening and I was like, it's 208 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: that story that when you think of skydiving, your brain 209 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: automatically goes there as like a protection mechanism. Anyway, and 210 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to hear you, can you share a little bit about 211 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: that day? 212 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure. 213 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: So our friend Claire, she was celebrating her two hundred jump, So, 214 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: like I said, with my hundred, I was an aked 215 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: for my two hundred. I actually jumped over Melbourne. It's 216 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: called a display jump, so I got to jump over. 217 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: There's a photo on my fridge as sure you later 218 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: jump over the city and I've never actually i'd been 219 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: in the city for being in Melbourne for about seven days, 220 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: so I knew no landmarks at all, and I remember 221 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: just jumping and now I realized that's the West Gate, 222 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: that peak hour traffic and I had to land. 223 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: Where the zoo is. 224 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: I come, yeah, zoo, Royal Park, Royal Park around there, 225 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: and I'm just looking for that smoke flare, Like I'm like, 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: where the fuck is smoke? And so that was my 227 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: two hundred and so Claire's was to jump in a 228 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: ten ways, so we were all jumping with her. And yeah, 229 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: it just you know, with skydiving, there's always a few 230 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: things that tend to go wrong. It's not just one thing. 231 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: So I wasn't just Claire didn't open her shoot or whatever. 232 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: You know, there was a malfunction with a shoe. We 233 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: had drifted apart, like the whole crew had drifted apart 234 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: and broken the sky at the formation. Is that just 235 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: cause like the times you're falling, Yeah, so I was 236 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: falling too far, So I actually was the first to 237 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: break the formation. So I wasn't around where all of 238 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: the other kind of nine skydivers were. And then you know, 239 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: she was giving a kiss to her her ex boyfriend 240 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: Duke's at the time, and you know, so you know 241 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: she probably wasn't a stable maybe when she was dummy. 242 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: There's quite a few things, and you know, obviously they 243 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: do the inquest to find out all of those contributing factors. 244 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, and so then her reserve tangled with her 245 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: mane and and yeah, and so she landed a few 246 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: paddocks away as well, and it was just it was 247 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: so terrifying because you know, there's you know, there's half 248 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: of us here saying someone's gone in there's three people missing, 249 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: we don't know who it is. 250 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: Then we hear sirens, you know, and then it was 251 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: just unfolding, and it was so. 252 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: I yeah, it just affected me so much, Like everyone 253 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: didn't just affect me, it affected everybody, you know, and 254 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: her family as well, Like her family were in London 255 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: and they came over and it was just it was 256 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: probably the first time in my young life at the time, 257 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: I think I was only twenty four or something, that 258 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: I had experienced tragedy as such. You know, I'd experienced 259 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: a lot of adversity, and I'd experienced a lot of 260 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: trauma through other experiences in my own personal life. 261 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: But that was huge. 262 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think in your twenties there's this sense 263 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: of being immortal and you're like, I've got all this time, 264 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want. So having to face 265 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: something like that someone that you know personally and you're 266 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: there at the time, you quickly have to face death 267 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: very very in your face. And so was it after 268 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: that that you kind of had your own kind depression. 269 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, well I think something like that really does 270 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: bring up to the surface that maybe you don't have 271 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: the tools to deal with maybe things that have happened 272 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: as a kid or whatever as well. And like, you know, 273 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: I was part a lot too, you know, so if 274 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: you're partying a lot, you're not taking care of yourself, 275 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: and something like that happens. It's funny because I was 276 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: always really physically active and all those other things. But 277 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: you know, if you're gone out all the time partying, 278 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: you just you don't have that mental capacity as well. 279 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: And so from there, yeah, it's kind of snowboard because 280 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: you you sort of it was the tragedy, and then 281 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: you partied even more to try and like help cope 282 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: with it. And then that's when I tried to take 283 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: my own life. I probably I don't even know the 284 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: timings of it. It was only probably about six months 285 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: on from that I try to take my own life. 286 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: And you know, it was lucky enough to be found 287 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: in that time. 288 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, and then again that is its own own trauma. 289 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: It's like these little kind of landmarks of trauma or events, 290 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: you know. And then from there it was this slow 291 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: rebuild back up to try and work out how to 292 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: not get to that space again. And there's been moments 293 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: where I have gotten to back to that point, never 294 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 2: to the point where I've gone through with it, but 295 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: certainly to the point where, oh gosh, this is so 296 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: prevalent in my head. 297 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: You know. 298 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: Is that why you're so passionate. I'm passionate about mental 299 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: health too, but I feel like you really care about 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: mental health, and I freaking love it. 301 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: I really care about mental health, but I really care 302 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: about get talking to those people that are right there 303 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: in that moment. And it's so hard because you know, 304 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: you don't want to get on your socials gone, Hey, 305 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: if you're feeling suicidal today, I'm here you because you've 306 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: got to remember that. That also brings up a bit 307 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: of a cycle as well. I know when friends have 308 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: taken their own life and as soon as you know, 309 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: that happens. And I feel that's why media don't report 310 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: on a huge amount is because it creates a bit 311 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: of a snowball effect in our community. I remember when 312 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Robin Williams took his own life that one, honestly, and 313 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I'm a Robin Williams fan and 314 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: all that, but you know, I'm not a fanatical, crazy 315 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: fan anything like that. I don't know him personally, but 316 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: holy shit, that not me for a six and that 317 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: kind of started me back on a bit of a 318 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: depressive cycle. And I saw that with Aaron, you know, 319 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: and he doesn't suffer from depression at all, but one 320 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: of our friends did take their own life, someone he 321 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: knew and worked with, and I saw it affect him 322 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: for quite a few months and kind of create a 323 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: bit of a cycle as well. So I don't like 324 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: to be too vocal about it in that way, but 325 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: I also whenever I do talk about it, it's going 326 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: to be that grassroots level. Hey, if you're there, if 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: you're having that outer body experience, yes, fucking circuit, break it, 328 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: like you know, break that circuit, Eat something sweet, jump 329 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: in the ocean, you do whatever you can. And I'd 330 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: say in that you can even hear it's that panic 331 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: in my voice because it's that urgency. Hey, I need 332 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: you to stop that now. I need you to come 333 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: out of that now, come back to yourself, you know, 334 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: because that's what it feels like. So that is what 335 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm truly passionate about talking about because I know that 336 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: feeling and I know if someone is in that point 337 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: right now, they'll hear that, they'll really hear it. 338 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: And any I've been going to a therapist for years. 339 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: I love I look forward, It's my non negotiable. But 340 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: they'll often talk about changing the channel, like having something 341 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that just takes you out of that. My history is 342 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: eating disorders, so and you can get triggered by anything, 343 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: just the way you were describing and I think if 344 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: you've got that thing, and for me it is nature, 345 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: like you're saying, jumping the ocean, it's so powerful. But 346 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing. I know that that's really confronting 347 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to talk about those kind of things. But I've heard 348 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you very courageously open up before and I was like driving, 349 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: like got goose bumps, tears going down my face. I 350 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: feel like, what the magic of Emmy Lou Because I've 351 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: been soaking you up knowing we're doing this podcast, I 352 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: feel like the magic of you is this sense of 353 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: realness and no filter. Yeah, and what you see is 354 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: what you get. And do you think that that is 355 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: because you've been through these traumas, I mean, like to 356 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: the point it's one point too. How it's one thing 357 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to have suicidal thoughts, it's another thing to actually you 358 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: had begun the process of going through with it. And 359 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: if that man and his son didn't find you in 360 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: your car, yeah, all over, red Rob. But you'd already 361 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: passed out, right, So you've kind of like felt it 362 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: as viscerally you were gone, see you later kind of thing. 363 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that's what gives you your fearlessness because 364 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: you have come from I don't want to call it 365 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: rock bottom, but you know where you felt like there 366 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: was no other options. 367 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know if that's what it is. 368 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: I think sometimes that that fearlessness. I've always been someone 369 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: like that, do you know what I mean? I've all like, 370 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: you know, things weren't. 371 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: Right at home, so I left. 372 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: You know, probably not the best decision as a fourteen 373 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: year old, but I was like, right, I'm going to 374 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: go to school. I can work at the chicken shop 375 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: like part time and still go to school, and I'm 376 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: gonna move out, and I'm gonna pay cheap rent because 377 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, offer to cook for these guys 378 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 2: so I can afford this. And so I always had 379 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: this sense of fearlessness, you know. I like, I remember 380 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: entering myself into talent shows, like when I was like 381 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: eight nine years old, and I'd come home. I'd be like, hey, Mom, Dad, 382 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: I've entered myself into the talent show at the pub. 383 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: You got to take me there. 384 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: You take me to Bustleton, which like thirty minutes away. 385 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's like a whole Back then, there'd be 386 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: talent shows at the local pubs and you'd have to 387 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: do the rounds like I've enteredy and you gotta take me. 388 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: So I always had this fearlessness, and I do wonder 389 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: if that fearlessness sort of, unfortunately kind of backfired in 390 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: that state where I was feeling super down and super 391 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: toepress because I'm like, oh no, I'm just we're done, 392 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: Like so we just we just go because when I 393 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: get something in my head, it's like we just mad now, yeah, yeah, 394 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: and we commit. It's like skydiving, It's like I'm gonna 395 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: learn how to skydive. 396 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: I remember not looking for a tandem jump or anything 397 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: like that. 398 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I need to look in the 399 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: phone book and learn how to do that, because you know, 400 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: so it's always like, oh. 401 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: I've got to do it. 402 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't it like not under skydiving? 403 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: And you had to yeah, and like and you know 404 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: back then there was you know, I watched Point break 405 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: and Drop some like a thousand times and and so 406 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: and then I remember like looking through the book, like 407 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: the phone book too, going how the fuck do. 408 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: You find skydiving? And I found it under parachuting, we say, point. 409 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Swayze, Oh my god. So you and I both 410 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: have a passion for movies. I could do about a 411 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: favorite movie scores because you have a hidden talent, don't you. Yes, 412 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: I do. Can you share that with our listeners? 413 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: Please? 414 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: Yes? 415 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: Yes? 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: So Aaron and I but see, okay, So Aaron and 417 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: I have this thing where he will put on a 418 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: movie and I have to put a cushion over my head, 419 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: and can I just say that he doesn't he doesn't 420 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: ask me to do this. 421 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: I demand it. So I'm like, don't, don't, don't deprest that, 422 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: and I put the push the cushion over my head. 423 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, prisplay And then I listened to it 424 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: and I get it And sometimes I can get it 425 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: within like seconds. I'm and I scream every time and 426 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: if he goes, that was so good, babe. But I 427 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: find that it is a hidden talent. But I think 428 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: it may be only in our household because we obviously 429 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: know the movies that we watch all the time as well. 430 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: So I wonder if I've always wondered if someone else 431 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: was to pick the movie, would I get it. 432 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: Like you would? 433 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: You've got a diverse taste in movie. I always watch 434 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: what movies. I'm like, watch you watching. I'm like, boss, 435 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. Okay, this is what we've gotta. 436 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: I watched some pretty hard call me. 437 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: I love them. 438 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: I love Michael Man. He's my favorite. 439 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: This I could talk. We could talk all about movies 440 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: and acting and whatnot. Okay, there is so much stuff 441 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. You're the first guest I've 442 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: had on I've got my notes here and I'm like, no, Lola, 443 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: I just want to be in the moment with you. 444 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 3: Whatever you want. 445 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: Okay. So when you and I met was the dot 446 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: com social days, right yep? So I also went into 447 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Channel thirty one and we did ear an interview there 448 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: as well. 449 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Yes, no, Adam, we went to the Colonial Brewery that 450 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: he did the final four times, right, Yes, and so 451 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: is that is. 452 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: That what became your pot Like I'm trying to get 453 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: the past Emmy lou Loves. 454 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Oh, Emmy lou Loves. 455 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: Well, yes, So we had a season of dot Com 456 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Social and then the second season came out and we 457 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: called it Emmy Lou Loves because we wanted I wanted 458 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: to have it was still a talk show back then, 459 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: and I wanted to have my brand attached to it 460 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: because I thought and so nigive back in the day. 461 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: I was like, what about if like a network picks 462 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: it up and they take the name and then they 463 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: can just get any presentage to do it. 464 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to call it Emmy lou Loves. And that 465 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: was my thinking. 466 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: So we had the second season, which was dot Com 467 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: Social again and you were the finale of that, and 468 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: Peter Hitchener was on Peter and we moved from Channel 469 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: thirty one studios it was still a Channel thirty one show, 470 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: but to the r MiTV Studios, which is amazing studios 471 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: at the UNI like incredible, So. 472 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: We kind of moved up. 473 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: So each season we moved up and up, and then 474 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: that second season of Emmy Lou Loves as the talk 475 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: show where you were the finale for that in that 476 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: live event, which is solid my god, and that grazing platter. 477 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't know that you'd done it, Like I 478 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: didn't know. 479 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: I know that that one was that one I hired 480 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: someone to do that. 481 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it was like I felt like it was 482 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: about fifteen meters long. 483 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: And so then from there I changed the format. I 484 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: decided that, you know, we just started to get some 485 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: sponsors interested and they were really happy with the talk show, 486 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: and then I kind of started pitch, Hey, people love 487 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: the talk show, but what they really just want to 488 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: see is me doing stories on TV. So let's change 489 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: it up. And that's when I was like, do I 490 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: have budget to create a reality show? And that's where 491 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: we started so addictive, like even researching you. I was like, oh, 492 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: just watch an app to like get another feel for it, 493 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: and I was like four Repsteep, oh my god, and 494 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: Christian as well, and you know, I really wanted to 495 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: make that you know, it's not manufactured drama. So I 496 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: wanted to have a reality show where we weren't hurting 497 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: other people's feelings, we weren't fighting with other people, there 498 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: was no drama as such. And people thought like I 499 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: was crazy, and I get it because you know, in 500 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: the you know, you study acting, in the art of storytelling, 501 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: you need to have you know, the problem, the solution, 502 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: you know, all those kinds of things. But what I 503 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: wanted was just thirty minutes of people to tune out 504 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: and have fun and watch someone like chase their dreams 505 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: and just have fun and so they could walk away 506 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: and feel like they could do something. 507 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: And you included your community like thatfo shopping and you 508 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: talk your own shopping And I was like, how did 509 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I not know it? I'm getting fomo right now, Like, yes, 510 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: it was a reality show, but it felt like a 511 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: very inclusive reality show where if I was walking down 512 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: the streets, so waw you feel me, I'd be so 513 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: comfortable running up to you being like. 514 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: Sup, exactly exactly. 515 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: And then the cooking, the community cooking episode is so 516 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: great because we had people come in and try the recipes, 517 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: and you know, that's the whole point. And that's why 518 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: with the events, you know, I make it quite a 519 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: point of making a ticketed event for my community so 520 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: they can come, they can enjoy a party, they can 521 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: enjoy a press well, they can do all those things 522 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: that we kind of only ever see influencers or celebrities do. 523 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: And you know, like I'll invite maybe one or two 524 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: influencers that are my mates and stuff. But everyone is 525 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: the same, so everyone gets a you know, if you 526 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: want to buy a ticket, you buy a ticket. It 527 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you work or where your celebrity status is. 528 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: There's no VIP room, there's nothing like that. It's just 529 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: everybody is included. And you just get three hundred men 530 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: and women, mostly women, having the best time and they're 531 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: just like really you know, beefing themselves up, like you know, 532 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: they're in the toilets chatting. They make friends for life 533 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: and that's but they get to experience everything that they 534 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: see on socials but for themselves. 535 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: I love it. And another thing that I love is 536 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: your new book, Dude. The best bit that I was like, 537 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: I was actually looking at with my dad because I'm 538 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: half in Melbourn and half on the surf coast, and 539 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: I was like, god on the podcast, Dad, and he's like, 540 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: really show me and we're going through all the recipes 541 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: and then I flip and I'm like, oh my goodness, 542 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: how to do the perfect brow? 543 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: Are yet sold? 544 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I love that it's you, and like I've worked with 545 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Pam Mac and that before and they're wonderful and like 546 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: it feels like when I read it, I feel like 547 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: it's you. Yeah. 548 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a wonderful job in doing that. 549 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's out now as well. Yep, Okay, talk 550 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: to me about the Christmas Special because that's going to 551 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: be airing on the thirteenth December. 552 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is, so you know, it's it's basically 553 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Christmas my style. It's not I don't think it's your 554 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: stock standard Christmas show as in, like there's all the 555 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: recipes and stuff like that, but you know, I'm not 556 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: showing you a huge amount of like there's no gingerbread 557 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: houses and things like that. It's a summer as one 558 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: behind you as we run behind me, Yes, there is 559 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: one behind me that I had to get because I 560 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: can't make one like that. 561 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: That is so beautiful. 562 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: That's from the set. 563 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: It's a problem. That stunning And as I came in 564 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: here there's Christmas trees everywhere and I'm like, oh, that's 565 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: the set. 566 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we've just we've bumped out of the studio, 567 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: so the house is filled. We're amongst props, right, now, 568 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, it really is about simple dishes that you 569 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: can do, so you know, and really easy things. You know, 570 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: there's god, there is a glazed ham there. But I'd 571 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: have to say most of the other things you would 572 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 2: do anytime, all year round, do you know what I mean? 573 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Like your whole style is like simple hacks like tips 574 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: and trees. That's how to make it good. Like even 575 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: like little things like I watched your YouTube vid about 576 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: how to make a good grazing platter. Yes, Like who 577 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: does want to learn that? And you're like, just watch 578 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: wash your straws and your berries in the sync but 579 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: in their container. 580 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: Yes, so they're separate. Yeah, And I was like, soap 581 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: them in there, yeah, I know, And just little things 582 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: like that, because people can do anything, do you know 583 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: what I mean? And as much as you know, God, 584 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: I love social media so much. I feel sometimes with 585 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: the reels or the time lapses of makeup and styling, 586 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: we lose the voice and we lose the communication and stuff. 587 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 3: And so I'm really big and you would be too. 588 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: You're a presenter, you know, Like I love being able 589 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: to present things and talk things out with people because 590 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: we just it's just this flash of like reels and 591 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: fast paced time lapses, and we don't actually get any 592 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: real content or how to you know, so I'll always 593 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: want to be able to like show people the little things, 594 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: you know, makes a big difference. 595 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: The thing that I freaking love about you is you 596 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, I got this dream, I'm going to 597 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: make it happen. Because traditionally, becoming a TV present would 598 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: mean have your media training, which I know you've had. 599 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Then it would be shopping for a manager, building a 600 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: show real and crossing your fingers and toes that you 601 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: somehow get the job. And even I know, and I've 602 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: been working media for over ten years now twelve years, 603 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: jobs are few and far between of being a TV presenter. 604 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I've shot fifteen pilots, none of them are being green 605 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: lit and they're like, you're just a segment girl, Ala, 606 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: So like, I get that, it's hard to kind of 607 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: like crack that industry. So you were just like, nah, 608 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to be my own EP. I'm going to 609 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: make this happen. And your mantra was I'm going to 610 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: be one take wonder pretty much. When I heard that, 611 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's amazing because even 612 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: for me I shout a campaign a few days ago, 613 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, nah, it took me three or 614 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: four gos to get it. 615 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: But having now worked a little bit, I understand that 616 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: you do kind of need to do three or four 617 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: times because you get out the juicy stuff in the content. 618 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: But you know, when I first started on Stories, I 619 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: was so naive to the media industry. I thought, if 620 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: I get a job, and can we just I'll just 621 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: be clear and say that I thought jobs for TV 622 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: presenting were on Seek dot com. I used to go 623 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: on there and type in TV presenter. Yeah, that's how 624 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: naive I was, and Channel nine TV presenter, and I 625 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: would I would just type. 626 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Things, do you know how I got on morning TV 627 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: Cold Call Cold Up back in the day. 628 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 3: That's amazing as your style? 629 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: And so I thought if I presented on Stories as 630 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: these one takes, that when I finally did get an audition, 631 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: which I would get through Seek so ridiculous, that I 632 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: would be able to know and people would think, oh, great, well, 633 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: we don't have to spend long filming her budgets are type. 634 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: That was my mentality. 635 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: But now, having you know, been presenting for a while, 636 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: I realized, yes, you do want to have that really 637 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: quick articulation. You want to have that confidence to walk 638 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: down the street. That's the sort of stuff you do 639 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: learn from being the one Take Wonder. But doing it 640 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: three four times you do pull out some really juicy pieces. 641 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: That you didn't know your hat in you. You know, 642 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 3: it's like acting, you got to pull it out. 643 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm not too good at the acting 644 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: because the repetitiveness of it is a killer. 645 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Acting is so hard. I say, it's as scary as 646 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: skydiving to people, but when it clicks, it's like electricity 647 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: running through your veins and I cannot liken any other 648 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: feeling to it. TV hosting and acting a very different fields. 649 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: And I was thinking to my therapist, I said, TV 650 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: hosting is my purpose, like exactly, I love your style stuff, 651 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, but acting feels like it fills up 652 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: my heart in a different way. 653 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 654 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: And so I was like, I'm going to do both, 655 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: so Cook, do whatever you want. So okay. One thing 656 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: when you described about just then, how you were like, Okay, 657 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: the reason I want to be One Take Wonder is 658 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to go in kind of save time, save money, 659 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: so that it's a really that's a producer's brain, that's 660 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a problem solver's brain. And I think that's why you're 661 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: so magical, because you have the ability to EP yourself 662 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: YEP and produce yourself, and a lot of talent don't. 663 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. But you are a 664 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: package deal where you're like, nah, I got this. You 665 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: and I were just talking about editing and stuff before 666 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: you've got this. My question view is which fills your 667 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: cup the most. 668 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: I'd have to say, just after a recent experience too, 669 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: I love producing so much, and you know what, I 670 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: think this year we had the break and then we're 671 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: coming back on this is my first show on Channel ten, 672 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: and I thought. 673 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: Oh god, you know, maybe I do need to you know, 674 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: I'm not like the. 675 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 2: Best producer, like maybe, But then I've realized, especially over 676 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: this last week, hey, you know what you're producing skills, 677 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: Your EP skills has gotten you to this point. You know, 678 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: Channel ten gave you the show no one else, you know, 679 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: the sponsors said yes to you, nobody else. Yeah, and 680 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: so I have really You've caught me on the back 681 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: of a massive learning curve this week, and I'll never 682 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: never doubt myself again, you know, and that's a bold 683 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: one to make right now, but that has been a 684 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: massive learning curve for me this week. And I'd have 685 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: to say ep like producing and being executive producer is 686 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: definitely something that really fills my heart because it's that storytelling. 687 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: And I also realize, like I want to give more. 688 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: I want to give more than what a lot of 689 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: you know, people in the traditional media want to give. 690 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: And I feel that the audience deserves more and wants 691 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: more that I want fluffy stuff, they want more, And 692 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: that's kind of my next goal now is to just 693 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: keep going with that. 694 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: In my mind, I. 695 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Still love traditional media so much and I'm still trying 696 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: to figure out a way that I can blend social media. 697 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: And I know people say traditional media is kind of 698 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: dead and blah blah blah. You know how they say that, 699 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, it's not. I turn on my 700 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: TV every night, it's not. 701 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: And you know, and we love the glamour, we love 702 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: romance to it. 703 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: It is. There is a romance to it, and I'm 704 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: still trying to find a way to blend those two together. 705 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: But I definitely know that I, you know, especially with 706 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: Emmy Lou loves the reality TV. 707 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: I've definitely pioneered. 708 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: A lot more Emily Loves coming back. 709 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: Well yeah, hopefully, well once once COVID's over and we 710 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: can film safely. You know, we're lucky to have gotten 711 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: the Emmylou's Christmas table out, but with Emmy Lou Loves, like, 712 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: we need community, we need events, and it wasn't safe 713 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: to do that for the sake. 714 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: Of a show, so we just had to wait. Oh 715 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: my goodness, I could ask you so much about this. 716 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: Can I say one thing, This isn't a question one 717 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent, can always be your own EP because I'm 718 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: pretty positive Jamie Oliver is. Yeah. And my friend was 719 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: working radio and he was filming Jamie Oliver once, Yeah, 720 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and he was on set and he could hear a 721 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: buzz or a phone like two or three meet like 722 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: out literally out of the room, and he said, someone's 723 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: phones on, like they were literally about to shoot cameras 724 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: rolling and he's like, stop someone's phones on, And he 725 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: was just producing himself to get the best content, save time, 726 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: be clear. And it sounds weird, but like have your 727 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: own back and I feel like you've got that in space. 728 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I recently kind of like let that go 729 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: and I and I realized, well, no one. 730 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to have your own back, you really do. 731 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: And it's okay too, and you really have to be 732 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: aware of you know, what's out there and white people, 733 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: what intentions other people have, like you know, that's something 734 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: that I guess again naives, you know, naive and inexperience, 735 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: and I think that's what stops a lot of people 736 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: like you and I getting to that next level in 737 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: TVLand is you know, there can be that toxicity there, 738 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, with people not having your back or having 739 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: their own back and really producing because of their own yeah, 740 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: their own needs, yeah exactly, and their own ego, whereas 741 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, you're producing from a creative space. 742 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: That's the difference. 743 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: When you're producing from a talent perspective, you're producing from 744 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: a creative space, and when you're producing from you know, 745 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: like an influencer perspective, you're producing because of what your 746 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: community wants and needs as well. 747 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Again, totally they're different hats, aren't they. 748 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: Ye. 749 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: So there's so much stuff I want to ask about you. 750 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: So you've also got to wonderful fashion line. 751 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a wonderful fashion Linton. It's not a line. 752 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: It's pretty small at the moment, you know, a couple 753 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: of handful of aprons, two jumpsuits. I mean last yeah, 754 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: the hoodies went crazy last year. We launched a full 755 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: collection this year with COVID. I wasn't comfortable in doing that, 756 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't. You know, that is such a 757 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: new business for me and a new line, and fashion 758 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: is a very hard world and very cut through and 759 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: I really I'm really trying to find Australian made for me. 760 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: That's a big thing. And so I've really scaled back, 761 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: you know. I do produce a couple of bits and pieces. 762 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: The community love it, we love the aprons. 763 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: That's great, But. 764 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has scaled right back, and I feel like 765 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: I can't move forward with that until we get just 766 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: we just need a little bit more structure in place 767 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: with it. And so yeah, but you know that's okay, too, 768 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: like to pull back and go nah, I'm not sort 769 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: of happy to get Let's chill out for a while, 770 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: Let's bring out beautiful aprons and what we've got and 771 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: then go from there. 772 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: What I love is you've you know, trained in beauty 773 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: therapy oh PS black belt in ten still pretty impressive. 774 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: So you trained and beauty, you have done your fashion 775 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: style and your passion is clearly definitely TV presenting, I 776 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: would say, being a storyteller and a creative, which is 777 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: pretty much what an actor is obviously being a producer fashion. 778 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: I just hit on makeup. I just hit on what 779 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I love is. You don't fit in a box. You're like, well, 780 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: these are the things I love. I'm passionate about all 781 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: of them. I'm going to kind of like in yoga, 782 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: we call it follow your dama, And I feel like 783 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: you're and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I 784 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: feel like you navigate yourself depending on what feels good. 785 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And I think that's that's the reality of 786 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: life though, you know, I mean, what I say on 787 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: this podcast and how I feel about something today might 788 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: be completely different to what I've said on a podcast 789 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: three years ago, I mean, or two years ago or 790 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: two years from now, you know, because we're growing, We're 791 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: constantly evolving, and so you know, me as a beauty 792 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 2: therapist at eighteen years old, its completely different to me 793 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: telling you about your skin and skin care needs now 794 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: as a forty one year old. 795 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: You know, so like it. 796 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: That's the thing you've got to constantly be navigating and 797 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: moving and evolving. And I think the one thing that 798 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 2: people kind of get caught up on is that you 799 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: have to have this one structured thought process. 800 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: You have to have this one ideal. 801 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't call it like your values never 802 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: really change, but you have to have all these kind 803 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: of ideas that sit in a box. And then you're 804 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: not allowed a maneuver out of that, but you have 805 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: to be allowed to. And I think that's you know, 806 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: that's the thing that I tried to share with people. Hey, 807 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: you're allowed to change your goal set. You're allowed to 808 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: change your dream, your weight, you're you know, you like 809 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: do it, your haircut. You can do whatever the fuck 810 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: you want to do, you know. And that's the thing 811 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: that people gravitate towards because you know, you do as 812 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: a presenter as anyone. You know, you are you a mum, 813 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: You're a mum blogger, You're a fashion person. 814 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 3: And it's like, fucking no way. 815 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm forty one years old with like a lifetime of experience, 816 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: and you know, today I don't feel like like today 817 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: I'm not wearing any makeup or or you know, today 818 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: I feel like being a Glamazon. It's totally up to 819 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: you every day. 820 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: So you look like a glamozon today? Can I say? 821 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: As I was coming in, Emmy Lou was getting makeup done, 822 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: I loved it. I was like, I feel like I'm 823 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: part of Emi Lou Loves right now. Okay, So I 824 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: want to know, so we know we've got Christmas series cut, 825 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: this Christmas episode sorry coming out, and then what is 826 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: what is twenty twenty one going to look like for you? 827 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: I gonna be honest, I have no idea, you know, 828 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm really this year has obviously, you know, I just 829 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: haven't tried to fight against the year. Like I've done 830 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: a few bits of pivoting, like you know, came out 831 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: with the magazine during Io. 832 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: Yes, a few bits and pieces like that, you know. 833 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, you're in the mad You're beautiful. 834 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: You look so gorgeous. 835 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: So you know, I've spent this year kind of chilling out, 836 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: and I feel like going into next year, I don't 837 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: have any real solid goals set yet because I actually 838 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: kind of need to see what this now looks like. 839 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: There is a new landscape out there, and I. 840 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: Don't even know what the fuck is going on, and 841 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: so I'm just kind of taking each project as it comes, 842 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: and then from there that's what I'm like, I'll kind 843 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: of put my feelers out. I'll be like, ah, this 844 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: is where we're at now, this is what's happening, this 845 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: is you know, what we're in the middle of. 846 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: And then that's where my. 847 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: Creative brain starts to go, oh, let's do this, or 848 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: let's do this, or let's take any lou loves here 849 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: or whatever. And there's a few things to catch up on, 850 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Like we had to cancel the New York trip. We 851 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: had a massive shopping trip for my community going to 852 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: New York. So it's thirty women that I was taking 853 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: to New York right now. We should be in New 854 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: York right now actually, So you know a couple of 855 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: things like that that we have to kind of go like, 856 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: is this happening next year? 857 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: And you know the plan to hopefully do that next year. 858 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, because we just have to wait and 859 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: see with how the world kind of ends up and 860 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: where everyone kind of lands. I think, so I don't 861 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: have any massive, massive goals, but one thing I think 862 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 2: I really want to do is just try to create 863 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: a bit more balance and it sounds so fucking wanky, 864 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: but you know, this year, I've spent all seven months 865 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: at home, and you know, there's a part of me 866 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: is so thankful because I was headed towards burnout after 867 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: last year. Been so busy this week, this last two 868 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 2: weeks filming the show, you know, being on set every day, 869 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: not seeing the kids. 870 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: We're kind of back to where I was last year. 871 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, this ain't happening again, you know, 872 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: like I've worked too hard in my career. I should 873 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: be able now find some sort of balance, whether that 874 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: means it goes in cycles where we go, hey, kids, 875 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 2: Mum's busy for three weeks, but then I got three 876 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 2: weeks with you, like whatever. 877 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 3: That is something that's very at the forefront of my mind. 878 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: You might want to steal this tip. I learned it. 879 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: I was in London filming with Jamie Oliver's camera crew, 880 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: and I was filming a series and I said, what's 881 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: his What's so magical about him? Like, and he's so prolific, 882 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: like he creates so much content and shows. And the 883 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: guy I said, he goes, oh, he has two crews 884 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: and I go what And he said, he has eighteen 885 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: hour day and at the eight hour monk you do 886 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: your eight hour thing and they reset flip the crew, 887 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: but Jamie stays and so he'll film with two separate 888 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: crews in one hit. 889 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: Wow, that's so my style. 890 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: I would film all day and night, like lose eyes 891 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: lighting up or so I. 892 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 3: Would do that. 893 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: But obviously you can't with crew and you've got to 894 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: have all the catering and you know, all that kind 895 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: of stuff. 896 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes into. 897 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Just yeah, well he flips, he has a whole different 898 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: set and crew come in, he gets fed, and then 899 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: he's back on. Wow. 900 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 3: How amazing is that awesome? At his goals. 901 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what comes for you next 902 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like you're one hundred percent going to 903 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: I can see you anchoring your own, you know, commercial 904 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: network show, and I know you've already done so much 905 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: of that, but it was such a joy to kind 906 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: of like reset you and I really want you to 907 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: watch a show called Morning Wars okay with It's about 908 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: two TV anchors that have female Oh I've heard about that. Yeah, yeah, 909 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: I could see you a metal and that together. Actually 910 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: that would be two women running a morning show. In 911 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: New York. Wow, oh god, that's my dream is to 912 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: work in New York. Me too, Me too, I know 913 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: we've both got a similar dream with that. Can you 914 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about acting school? 915 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 3: Well, it's a very loose term. 916 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: I keep going there. 917 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: I know, Lola, I'm not it's not even so basically 918 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: this is so emmy lou Love style. Okay. 919 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: So I during lockdown, I'm like, I need a hobby. 920 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: I started getting right into essential oils. I'm a massive 921 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: earl head. Okay, but that's that's a whole nother discussion. 922 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: And then acting with the other hobby that I've picked up. 923 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: And I and been so busy that I haven't even 924 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 2: been able to do my my videos that I'm meant 925 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: to have done. 926 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 3: So typical. I looked at all the different courses and 927 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: I was. 928 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: Like, oh, they just look like they take so long, 929 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: and you know, night to have like this long course 930 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: and then this, And I was like, no, no, I 931 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: just want like an acting boot camp. So then I 932 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: spoke to a really you know, well known casting director 933 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: in the industry and works with you know, like quite 934 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: big Hollywood stars and things like that. And he's Australian 935 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: and I just said, would you mind if we just 936 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 2: create an acting boot camp. I don't need anything off 937 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,479 Speaker 2: you just acting boot camp. 938 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: You just tell me what to do. 939 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: I'll upload it every week. You know, you can just 940 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: give me advice, like via video or whatever. Like I 941 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: don't want to take up any time, but I just 942 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: don't have a huge amount of time to invest in 943 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 2: this and I need something punchy. 944 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: I can't go over and over and so that is 945 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: where I'm at. 946 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: So that's why it's not acting school. 947 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 3: It's it's a self organized acting boot camp for EMI Loop. 948 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it though, and I think it's just 949 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: doing creative things. You'll find that it just trickles into 950 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: your world. Like you might even be doing a salmon 951 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: recipe or something and you're like, oh shit, that's that thing. 952 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: I went feedback act like even for me. The other night, 953 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: I was putting an acting scene up and I wasn't 954 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: listening to my scene partner probably and my director said 955 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: just take a quick breath in as soon as he speaks, 956 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, and so this spoke and 957 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: I took a breath in. It forces you to listen 958 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: and be with your scene pattern. I was like, that's 959 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: a cool hat. 960 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: That is so cool. 961 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Isn't that handy? So if you were interviewing someone you 962 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: felt like you were worried about the cameras or which 963 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: lend was on. Breathe in as they start speaking. 964 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm doing that now. Sorry, I'm just breathing in. 965 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: How cool? 966 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: But you're age how much you go hand in hand? Well, 967 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: they so do, yeah and yeah. But I want to 968 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: see you. I want to say I'm so. I've already 969 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: DMed you probably fifteen times, going oh my god, the Christmas, 970 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: the Christmas special. I'm a Christmas nerd. I cannot wait. 971 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 3: Well, and you know it's not super Christmasy. Isn't that 972 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 3: what I love? 973 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: And stuff? Did you say? 974 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: No, it's got no cave, it's got no have And 975 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's not super super Christmasy. It's really 976 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: about taking that complicated out of Christmas and keeping it 977 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: really because I feel like a lot of us, you know, 978 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: we have all the Christmasy stuff up, but you know, 979 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: when it comes to the big day, we just want 980 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 2: to spend time with our family, especially after the year 981 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: that we've had, and so I really wanted to show 982 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: that I didn't want to show complicated stuff. 983 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: I didn't want to, you know, I showed. 984 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 2: Really beautiful craft right from like what I would do 985 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: when I go to Spotlight and show this really amazing 986 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: little craft. But I didn't want to show a heap 987 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 2: of them because I just feel like, don't get weighed 988 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 2: down and what you feel like you have to do. 989 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: Just feed beautiful food in abundance, fresh food. 990 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: People. Those strawberries I saw. 991 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: The strawberries are amazing, amazing, amazing Victorian strawberries. 992 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: And they got on and sponsored and got involved. 993 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're so incredible. I've been working with them 994 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: for years now. They's so amazing. And that's what I 995 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: loved is you know it's all about Australian produce as well. 996 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: So good. This has gone so fast. Okay, no, don't 997 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: say I love it. 998 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 999 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: I love it. My final question for you is if 1000 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: you had a mantra or bumper sticker, what would it be? 1001 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I only have the one, which is living your 1002 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 2: dream is hard. Not living your dream is hard. Choose 1003 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 2: your heart. 1004 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I love it. I've got goose bumps. Emmy Lou, 1005 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: you were so wonderful. I'm going to put all the 1006 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: show notes and put links for everything that is you 1007 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 1: in there, the new book, the details for the Christy Special. 1008 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, I know how busy you are. 1009 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: So good. 1010 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: No, thank you so much for interviewing me. And thanks 1011 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 3: for everyone for requesting me. That's so lovely of you, guys. 1012 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're making it. We're making it. Do you know 1013 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: what I'm here for? Yes, the listener, but I'm also 1014 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: here because you inspire me. So thank you so much 1015 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: for sharing today. No worries, big love, wowsers, Emmy lou 1016 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: what are human? All right? So remember to tune into 1017 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: her Christy Special on the thirteenth of December on Channel ten. 1018 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: And do you know what I reckon her book would 1019 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: be a brill at Christy Prezzy two. I've put hey 1020 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: can get it in all the show notes, links to 1021 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: parents star, her website, you name it. Speaking of Chrissy, 1022 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: do you know that We've got a Christmas special that 1023 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: comes out every Friday. 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