1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Now we know that over the weekend. It looks like 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: it was a massive weekend. In fact, in Central Australia 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: they had the west Max Monster get underway. Plenty of people, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: there are hundreds of people taking part in that one, 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: and well from the look of those results, there was 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: a number of there's a number of grueling trail races 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: obviously that make up that running festival. Bush and Alice 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Springs local Simon Juke smashed the course in a record 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: for the grueling two hundred and thirty one kilometer Sonda Monster. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Can you imagine running that far? That is insane. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: But joining me on the line right now from Alice Springs, 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: it is actually the mayor of Alice Springs, Matt Patterson. 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: Matt, Good morning Katie, thanks for having me mate. 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Looks like it was a massive weekend in Central Australia 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: with the west Max Monster underway. It sounds like it 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: all went pretty well. It sounds like it was probably 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: a positive time for Alice. 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we also had opening of a new playground here, 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: we had the west Max, there were some fundraisers going on, 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: so it was a good weekend for our springs and 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: the residents. It was nice to all come together for 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: a positive change. 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: That is good to hear. How has it all been 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: going that? 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: I look, it slowed down, Katie, like that I can 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: say that with confidence it has slowed down. I mean 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: it's still in our face though, Like I'm not saying 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: that it's disappeared. It's still out and about. But we 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: always see any social behavior slow down at this time 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: of year because of the weather. I mean, you know 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: it's zero and one degrees overnight, so it does trend 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: this way over time. But it is giving the residence 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: a bit of relief, which is clearly a nice change. 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely and much needed. 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: Mate. 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: We know the Chief Minister was there on the weekend 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: as well. Did you meet with her and are you 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: starting to sort of see any change in terms of 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: some of the different NGOs that are operating and some 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: of that funding flowing through. 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've seen some of the funding come through, 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: especially with the tweet. They'll be on the ground soon enough. 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: But look, as I've said, it's slide down hasn't disappeared. 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: We've seen some positives with the Monday Tuesday alcohol restrictions 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: as well, the domestic violence numbers have dropped. They're not 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: through the floor, but they've certainly dropped, So it is 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: it is coming along. I did meet with the Chief 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: as we opened the new park out at Kilgarriff on 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: the weekend. 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: So. 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Obviously the Chief Minision and I catch up quite often, 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: which is great on our behalf. We've greatly received on 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: our behalf. So we'll continue to work with the Northern 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Tertiary Government to try to address some of the challenges 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: that we continue to face. 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: Well, goodness, as you've had a lot a lot of 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: challenges in recent months. Now you mentioned then those extra 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: police on the ground, when are they sort of expected 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: to become operational. 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the next month, is 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: my understanding, Cadio. That could be wrong, but that's my understanding. 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: So I said, there's a big bucket of police coming 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: and as well, we're getting some new police officers just 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: from the last group that has graduated. So I think, 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: as I've said many times, more passive surveillance the better 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: for us. And whilst we're seeing Monday Tuesday, we're seeing 68 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: less domestic violence. We can see we're seeing a few 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: more proactive police patrols, and you tie that in with 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: Lurtep that we're doing the traditional owner patrols day and night. 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: It's been that has been very well received, especially in 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: the CBD. So things are changing for the better in 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: town at the moment. 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: How are those alcohol restrictions going? As you said there 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: you know Monday Tuesday, it does mean that there are 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: less sort of call outs for domestic violence related incidents. 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: How are the restrictions going. 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seeing there was a suite of changes, so 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: it's hard to say which of the changes is the 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: one that's making the most effect. You'd have to speak 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: to industry about whether the alcohol sales are necessarily going down. 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: But the big change, and I've urged government on many 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: times if anything changes, don't change the one transaction per day. 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: So what happens is you have to scan your license, 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: but you can only buy go to one bottle shop 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: per day. And that is what I believe is having 87 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: an effect on lower secondary supply because people who sell 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: secondary supply, they don't go in and get twelve cartons 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: and twelve bottles of rum at a time. They're going 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: around to each individual takeaway outlet and buying a bottle 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: and a bottle and a Carton and really going under 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: the radar where this eliminates that. So this is the 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: one piece that you can make any change you want 94 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: going backwards, but do not change the one transaction per 95 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: person per day. 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: It makes you like, it really makes me wonder whether 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: it's something that needs to be implemented across the territory, 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: that one transaction per day. 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: Look, you know, as I said, we've had a suite 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: of changes, but you know, why do people need to 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: go to the bottle shop model months? You know, and 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: I understand that some people they might buy a bottle 103 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: of champagne and need to buy a bottle of wine 104 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: and they don't have it, so they go to another shop. 105 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: I understand that. But on face value, it's working. And 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: I understand that, you know, Dale and Catterin are facing 107 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: some changes. So you know, it would be my recommendation 108 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: to you to give it a go in the short 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: term to just see if it has any effect, because 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: things certainly couldn't have got any worse. It didn't feel 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: like an alice. They made that change and things are better. 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: So you know, I urge whoever's making the decisions, do 113 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: not change that one are going forward. 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something I reckon that's worth worth us having 115 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: a bit of a closer look at as well. Matt, Hey, 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: we know that last week or towards Friday, I think 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: it was, the Northern Territory Police said that they'd had 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: quite a large operation. They'd launched Operation Brentwood. They had 119 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: a three day traffic blitz and they also sort of 120 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: had a large scale drug and alcohol testing stations along 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the Victoria Highway and Stuart Highway, and they and were 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: in a situation where they'd intercepted the car traveling from 123 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: South Australia to indigenous communities in Central Australia. Thirty nine 124 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: five liter casks of wine seized and destroyed. Then on 125 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the eighteenth of May, forty five liter casks of wine. 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I guess that sort of goes to show you as well, 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: doesn't it. How you know these different measures, Well, hopefully 128 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: they'll make a difference. I know in this case they'd 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: still had their hands on that alcohol to get out 130 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: to the communities. 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: But this is sort of why some of those measures 132 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: needs to be in place. 133 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's going to be a wake 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: up call to people who are doing secondary supply that 135 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: you know, they will be caught and I congratulate the 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: police on that task force. I think that it's it'll 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: obviously be well received and less alcohol going out to 138 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: the community is clearly better and beneficial for everyone because 139 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: the flow on effects. I mean, you know where we're 140 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: located on the map. We are a service hub at times, 141 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: so it takes you know, it doesn't bottleneck our health 142 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: system EI when things like that are getting restricted, So 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: it's well received. 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, Obviously there's been quite a bit of talk 145 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: and will now been quite a bit of movement by 146 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the look of things on the situation with the footy 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: since we last spoke. It's looking as though the Central 148 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Australia Football League competition is going to return to Alice 149 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Springs following those negotiations between yourself and also the AFL 150 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Chief Executive Gillan McLaughlin. 151 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: What changed from the council's perspective. 152 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: So it has already changed, Katie. We've rescinded that motion 153 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: to allow the footy back. They were here yesterday, the 154 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: ten teams, so I kicked off yesterday. Look, I think 155 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: we were trying to negotiate with AFL ANDT for eighteen 156 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: months to get to this point. We went from thirteen 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: weeks of football and other springs down to eleven, and 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: what was agreed on was four weeks. And what that 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: looks like is a week in Olus a week out Bush, 160 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: So we don't have people staying around who don't have 161 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: anywhere to live. People are coming in to play their 162 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: foot in and then they're going back to community, kids 163 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: are going back to school. I think it's a positive 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: outcome for all parties. I think everyone wins. But I 165 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: think what the important part is as well is it's 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: really raised the concernuty I feel that we've all been 167 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: saying about is the lack of infrastructure at Bush and 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: so AFOOL have certainly come to the party with that 169 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: because we should be having more community football on community, 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: not in our springs and having this hub and spoke 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: model or this hybrid model I think everyone benefits out 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: of and that's what we've seen on the weekend and 173 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: we'll see next weekend as well. 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: So a reduction in the number of rounds And how 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: did it go yesterday? How did it go with people playing? 176 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Oh look, I think that they had a pretty good brief. 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: I mean the piece for our springs communities. We can 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: ramp up resources for four weeks and that's what's so 179 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: it's four weeks intown, four weeks out Bush. You can 180 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: really ramp up for those four weeks, and that's what 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: stakeholders have done. Look all wait and see the flower 182 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: one out of this weekend. Yet by all reports it 183 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: was you know, the community were on their best behavior. 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: Are people coming in they come in and less straight away. 185 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: So it was something that you know, we've spent talking 186 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: about for a long time and we finally got there 187 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: after months of negotiation. 188 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, On another separate issue, there has been issues 189 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: with rocks throwing in Alice Springs. It's something that you 190 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and I have spoken about before. Last week in Parliament, 191 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: Robin Lamley raised the fact that a mosque was being targeted. 192 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: It's now being reported that multiple agencies, including the Northern 193 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Territory Police and Territory Families are working together to try. 194 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: And stop you throwing rocks. 195 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Well, not only at Alice Springs at their only mosque, 196 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: your only mosque that is in Alice, but also across 197 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the board. Do you have any idea exactly what measures 198 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: are going to be taken to try to stop these 199 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: rock throwing incidents that you've seen an increase in. 200 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not across all of the measures, and I'm 201 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: meeting with the masiplayer this week, but the majority of 202 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: rock throwing does happen over that side of town. And 203 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: you know, it happened to a friend of mine coming 204 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: home from the football on the weekend. So things just 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: need to you know, it's pretty scary the rock throwing, 206 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: seeing people lose their ryan Alice springs. We're pretty lucky 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: that it hasn't been any worse than that, which I 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: mean is pretty severe injury. So you know, it's pretty 209 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: harhous to be throwing rocks at a moving vehicle. I 210 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: don't know who's in there. You know, lots of people 211 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: have young, young kids over that side of town. So look, 212 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: I think clearly that needs to be addressed, and it's 213 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: great to see that the Northern CHURCHIY government have responded, 214 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: but hopefully the response is no more rock throwing from people, 215 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: and people who are caught with the rocks they need 216 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: to face consequences. Quite frankly, yeah. 217 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty shocking stuff. 218 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: And she said, you know, we have seen someone lose 219 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: their eye over a rock throwing incident. We've spoken to 220 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: tour operators who've said that there were rocks being thrown 221 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: at tour buses. That was a little while back, but 222 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: nonetheless it's a serious concern and you just should not 223 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: have people on the street throwing rocks a moving cars. 224 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's it's hard to sad on that 225 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: it's happening, you know, and the severity of the things 226 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: that can go wrong from the scare. It's not just 227 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: the car. If you hit the driver, what happens is 228 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: a flow on. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous. And 229 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: as I said, then if people are caught or when 230 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: they're caught, then there needs to be consequences for the 231 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: actions because the damage that can do to people. And 232 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not worried about the vehicles. I'm worried 233 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: about people's safety here. That's the priority. Just the damager 234 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: can be done, it's carnage. So we just yeah, needs 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: to be addressed. 236 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, shock and stuff. Well, Matt Patterson, it's always good 237 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: to catch up with you. We really appreciate your time 238 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: this morning, mate. No doubt we'll talk to you again 239 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: very soon. 240 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: No worries, Katie, have a good day to you. 241 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: Too, Thanks mate,