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Speaker 1: Christian Hell.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Christian O'Connell Show podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much for downloading this podcast. Mini

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Speaker 3: the best of the guests, So you're gonna hear me

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Speaker 3: chatting two. The world's greatest comedian in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld, the world's greatest drummer. Fact, it's not even

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Speaker 3: it's not even enough for Debtkay Dave Grohl, and also

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Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey. Alright, a ladder, Laddie. No, I'm still here.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't him. This God to Matthew McConaughey Part one. Now,

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Speaker 3: there are so many stories in this book right at

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Speaker 3: times I had to put it down and go is

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Speaker 3: this for real? The first one which blew me away?

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Speaker 3: The one hundred foot high tree house. Did you really,

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Speaker 3: at the age of eight build a one hundred foot

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Speaker 3: high tree house?

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Speaker 4: It was thirteen stories to the tip top of the

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Speaker 4: biggest pine tree in those woods, the lone Ponderosa.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it was. It was a toss tree

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Speaker 5: house I've ever been in. Now, did I get to

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Speaker 5: take measure out and measure out? No, but it was

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Speaker 5: at least eighty.

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Speaker 3: How old are you then? Like eight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was going to eight and nine years old. I

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Speaker 4: obviously start from the bottom.

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Speaker 5: It helps to have a lumber yard nearby, which I

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Speaker 5: was telling this story, which I was stealing lumber for.

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Speaker 5: So I had an excess of lumber and plywood and

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Speaker 5: two by fours and nails and hammers. First story, second story,

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Speaker 5: I would cut out. You know, obviously I had to

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Speaker 5: be around. I had to make the pieces go as

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Speaker 5: close to the trunk of the tree as possible. But

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Speaker 5: I would cut out out a handsaw. I would cut

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Speaker 5: out a little nook big enough, about two feet wide,

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Speaker 5: about a foot deep, nook with a where I had

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Speaker 5: a ladder against the tree where I could climb to

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Speaker 5: the next rung on the ladder.

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Speaker 3: Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida floor.

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Speaker 5: And then I had this pulley that I kept taking up,

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Speaker 5: and I had cut a hole in the plywood, and

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Speaker 5: I could I would always do this. Instead of taking

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Speaker 5: my sandwich with me to the top floor, which I

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Speaker 4: I'd put it in this bucket of course the tree.

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Speaker 5: Then I climbed out of the top floor, and then

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Speaker 5: I'd pull that sandwich all the way up.

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Speaker 4: And I thought it was so cool. I thought I

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Speaker 4: was ROMs and cruise of it.

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Speaker 3: Now talking about mom and dad, they are a big

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Speaker 3: part of your life story and obviously a big characters

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Speaker 3: in this book. So your mom and dad, they get

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Speaker 3: divorced twice and remarried three times to each other.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that you know is a great example. If I

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Speaker 4: can't live with you, can't live without you.

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Speaker 3: And then, like any big character in a drama, your

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Speaker 3: dad deserves a big exit. He dies whilst making love

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Speaker 3: to your mom.

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Speaker 5: And he called it he I can't damn. Many times

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Speaker 5: you used to tell us. We'd be hanging out with myself,

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Speaker 5: my brother Pat and Rooster, and you know, off the slide,

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Speaker 5: love to your mother and we'd all laugh and everything,

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, some of us did it.

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Speaker 4: He pulled it off.

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Speaker 5: He called his shot his ultimate shot, and pulled it

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Speaker 3: Has being a dad now taught you?

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Speaker 4: How do your kids?

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Speaker 3: They are two girls fourteen and sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, you and I probably have somewhat different experiences

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Speaker 5: because mine are twelve, ten and seven, and maybe give

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Speaker 5: me some tips on the teens wrong mine.

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Speaker 4: Well, they taught me. First thing, which I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: You notice as well, is it's a hell of a lot

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Speaker 5: more DNA than I thought.

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Speaker 3: That's so true. Due and does your wife do this

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Speaker 3: where your wife goes if they show a negative trait,

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Speaker 3: like the temperamental, stubborn, they go that she gets that

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Speaker 4: That one? Yes, he gets that from you. Yes we're

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Speaker 5: But if it's one of the negative ones, that were

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Speaker 5: like Jesus like, well that's yours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that one. And usually she's correct. I

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Speaker 4: raise my hand and go, yep.

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Speaker 2: That is me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to you know. And in that way, our

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: What's the other thing, I'm very surprised that quickly they

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Speaker 4: You notice that how quickly you.

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Speaker 5: And their mom are having that little lingo or I remember,

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Speaker 5: you know, I've been doing silly things like son's like three,

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Speaker 5: you know something that like you know in the kitchen,

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Speaker 5: like saying yeah, are we gonna have any CEO r

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Speaker 4: Because if we didn't.

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Speaker 5: Have it, I didn't want to say it out loud

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Speaker 5: for him to go, oh we have corn. He like

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Speaker 5: walks up and goes CEO are in pop bye corn?

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Speaker 4: You've got two daughters.

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Speaker 5: I've got one daughter, and I'm told I'm very guilty

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Speaker 5: of being a horrible bad cop with my daughter, but

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Speaker 5: a better bad cop with my sons.

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Speaker 3: It's true, as say, what about girls, They just you

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Speaker 3: want to you want them to like he was a dad, don't.

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Speaker 5: You You know I write about it in the in

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Speaker 5: the book, and I say, it's the only true honeymoon

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Speaker 5: that ever lasts forever with a daughter. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know our wives and you know, out there, girl,

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Speaker 5: what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: That's not true? I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: My wife didn't love that part of the book.

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Speaker 3: All right, Part two coming up of our chat with

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Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey and the story about all right, alright, alright,

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Speaker 3: the three Words that changed his life.

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Speaker 2: Christian O'Connell Show podcast.

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Speaker 3: Turned out for part two of our Swimming exclusive radio

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Speaker 3: interview with Matthew McConaughey. The book is called Green Lights.

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Speaker 3: Genuinely one of the best books I've read in a

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Speaker 3: couple of years about life. There's some really great Actually,

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Speaker 3: I would say shareable wisdom in that I'm seriously when

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Speaker 3: I said that, I actually talked to my kids about

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Speaker 3: this thing that you're just about to hear, about this

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Speaker 3: process of elimination and flipping around that very heavy question

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Speaker 3: of trying to work out who you are in life.

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Speaker 3: He's rephrased it here we are, Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 5: But it's hard knowing who we are. It's hard knowing

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Speaker 5: what we want to do. So don't put that pressure

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Speaker 5: on yourself. Just start eliminating the things in our life

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Speaker 5: that do not feed we are, that are not what

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Speaker 5: we want to do, and by process of elimination, when

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Speaker 5: you eliminate those people, those places, those habits that do

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Speaker 5: not pay you back or help you in on a

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Speaker 5: trajectory to where it is you want to go by

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Speaker 5: process of elimination. If you start getting rid of those

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Speaker 5: in front of you, by sheer mathematics, you have more things,

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Speaker 5: percentage wise in front of you that will be what

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Speaker 3: One last question, Yes, I love the movie Dazed and Confused,

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Speaker 3: And then when I'm reading your book, I always wondered,

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Speaker 3: how did you get into this movie? On you it

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Speaker 3: was your first role. And then I read the book

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Speaker 3: and I found out that before that, the work you

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Speaker 3: were getting was as a hand model, and it looked

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Speaker 3: like you were going to have a grot And they

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Speaker 3: are beautiful hands. I mean, look at them, those are

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Speaker 3: those are the greatest hands I've ever seen. Can I

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Speaker 3: just say that? Ah? And then please just tell us

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Speaker 3: one last story about how you got the role and

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Speaker 3: came up with the three words that changed your life? Really?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So here we go.

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Speaker 5: I go take my girlfriend the time out to this

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Speaker 5: bar at the top of the High att in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 5: The reason I go to this bar is because the

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Speaker 5: bartender was in film class with me and he would

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Speaker 5: give me free drinks. So I go in there order

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Speaker 5: a drink, and he comes this guy goes. He goes, Hey,

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Speaker 5: there's a guy at the end of the bar in town.

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Speaker 5: He's producing a movie. And I said, oh cool, I

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Speaker 5: look down there. I go down and introduce myself.

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Speaker 4: Name is Don Phillips.

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Speaker 5: Don Phillips and I and get to have and vaunting

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Speaker 5: Donic's and Don's telling stories and he's a golfer and

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Speaker 5: I'm a golfer, and hey, you ever played this course. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I played this card. What'd you hit on your second shout?

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Speaker 5: I hit a seven? You hit at seven and you

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Speaker 5: did not? No way, you're not that long? Yeah man,

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Speaker 5: I am like wow.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we get.

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Speaker 5: Round, he get kicked out of the bar, mainly because

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Speaker 5: he's being so loud and we had no interest in

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Speaker 4: Him and having a great time. Got to four hours later,

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Speaker 5: Now kicked out of the bar and I'm in a cab.

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Speaker 5: He's riding the cab with me all the way home.

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Speaker 4: Only way. He's like, you ever done any acting? And

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Speaker 4: I said, joos, I mean a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Was in a middle Light commercial for button that long

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Speaker 5: and you know it's a hand model. He goes, Hi,

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Speaker 5: well you might be right for this part. It's this

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Speaker 5: high school chicks, but he's like, twenty one to twenty two,

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Speaker 5: come to this address tomorrow morning, pick up the script.

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Speaker 5: I show up the next morning, which was about five

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Speaker 5: hours later, nine thirty. There's the script waiting for Me,

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Speaker 5: handwritten note from Don Phillips. Three scenes marked, three scenes,

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Speaker 5: three lines. I go work on those three scenes and

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Speaker 5: three lines for two weeks. I come back, I read,

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Speaker 5: I get the audition.

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Speaker 4: Now I got the part. Wow, this is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 5: Before you go to work on a film, you have

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Speaker 5: to do it's called a makeup of a hair and

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Speaker 5: a wardrobe test. Mean, you go to the set, they

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Speaker 5: do your hair, makeup, wardrobe. The director comes over and

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Speaker 5: looks at you and sees if he approves. I was

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Speaker 5: not supposed to work this night. I was only on

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Speaker 5: set to get that makeup, hair and wardrobe test. In

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Speaker 5: the break, the director, Richard Linklanner comes up to me

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Speaker 5: and he looks at me. He's like, ah, Jack, great,

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Speaker 5: this is watersoon.

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Speaker 3: This is great.

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Speaker 4: Like the hair man, the peach pants, this is cool.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, cool, cool, cool.

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Speaker 5: As I'm about to say see you later, because I

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Speaker 5: think my first day of work was the next week,

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Speaker 5: he goes, hey, wait a minute, He goes, you know, Woodson's.

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Speaker 4: A kind of guy. He's probably been with all the

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Speaker 4: typical hot chickses cool.

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Speaker 5: Do you think he'd have any interest in the redheaded

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Speaker 5: intellectual I'm like, oh, yeah, man, Woodson, MIC's all kind

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Speaker 5: of girls. He's like, well, Marissa Rabisi is this redhead

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fantastic read. I've loved it. It's a

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Speaker 4: Joy talking to you. The hardest part was quitting this early.

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Speaker 3: It really is. It's the only interview this guy is

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Speaker 2: Now, ladies and gentlemen, ladies, you know an Australian radio

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Speaker 6: The Niskey and Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Christian o'connall show proudly presents Jerry Jerry, Jerry Jerry.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Jerry Seinfeld, Jerry.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld.

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Speaker 7: Here's the always entertaining Jerry Seinfeld.

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Speaker 3: Christian O'Connell, Jerry Seinfeld, welcome to the show. Thank you

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Speaker 6: So happy to be on the air in my beloved Australia.

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Speaker 3: So listen, where about to you right now? Are you

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Speaker 2: Jerry?

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Speaker 6: I am at home?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And are you sick to death now of this kind

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Speaker 6: Jerry agree, I'm sick of it.

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Speaker 7: Don't just stop, Just just say we'll be back when

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Speaker 6: We get it already.

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Speaker 3: And also we're just sick of seeing inside everybody else's homes.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to rearrange that bookcase so that

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Speaker 7: I don't think if you're going to have those if

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Speaker 3: There should be a test this conducted mid interview, be.

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Speaker 7: Some verification that those are your books and you read

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Speaker 3: And is it hard with your teenagers? Are your kids

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're in and out.

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Speaker 3: They're in and out because it's hard with teenagers. I've

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Speaker 6: Don't they like that? And no, they hate that. They

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Speaker 3: I remember years ago when they were younger, they would

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Speaker 3: Us standards a very selfish, lonely pursuit you look at

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Speaker 7: So I'm still still happiest like that. I very much

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Speaker 3: But then you've got to reconcile that with your wife

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm good at this part.

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Speaker 7: Because I like to argue, I like to debate and uh,

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Speaker 6: They're sick of it. But I'm just waking up now.

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Speaker 3: It's like you've come out of hibernation, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Sitting there reading a magazine for the first fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to come back to the second part.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld chat. Then Jerry will tell us who he

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Speaker 3: who's on his Mount Rushmore? And also you can even

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Speaker 2: The Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's a Christian o'connoll show where our very special guest

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Speaker 3: in an exclusive interview, is the great Jerry Seinfeld. We're

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Speaker 3: going back into the second part. Jerry. I loved your book,

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Speaker 3: is this anything? I thought it was great? This year

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Speaker 6: Bullseye that is exactly right.

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Speaker 7: That's why I did both of these things, just because

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Speaker 7: And I hope to do lots more things and be

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Speaker 3: And are you happy now at sixty six? Do you

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Speaker 6: Sure, I think most people would say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you care less ways that. Do you care

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Speaker 6: Oh? For sure, not that I ever really did that much.

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Speaker 6: You know, I care what audiences think.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but somebody asked me recently about some critic who

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Speaker 7: Well, honestly, I never thought I could do it. I

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know. I don't know how they

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Speaker 7: You know, you when you watch the Olympics, we see

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Speaker 7: They're humans. But that's that's the only group that we're

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Speaker 6: I just loved it though.

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Speaker 7: in a war effort like that, so far from home

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Speaker 7: for years at a time. The jokes must have traveled

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Speaker 7: through those groups of people. It must have been one

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Speaker 7: of their great tools of survival. And my father would

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Speaker 7: keep them in a little metal box. He would write

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Speaker 7: them down. It was more joke jokes, you know that

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Speaker 7: people used to tell a lot in the old days,

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Speaker 7: and he used to keep a track of them. So

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Speaker 7: that certainly was something that he handed down to me,

453
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Speaker 7: was this appreciation of jokes as something more than just,

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Speaker 7: you know, any other type of conversation.

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Speaker 3: So growing up in your house was loughter important with

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Speaker 3: mom and dad.

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Speaker 7: Funny, oh yeah, yeah, very funny, my dad particularly, but

458
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Speaker 7: my mom was a great laugher.

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Speaker 6: She just howled at all this stuff my father did.

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Speaker 7: My father used to always talk about dying and make

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Speaker 7: fun of that, and you know, he used to talk

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Speaker 7: about the type of box that he wanted, and my

463
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Speaker 7: mother would say stop, stop.

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Speaker 3: But then where does he go from this love of

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Speaker 3: comedy and of being in awe of its magical powers

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Speaker 3: and then going to do your actual first stand up gigs?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how old were you when you did your

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Speaker 3: first gig get characterizing Star.

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Speaker 6: I guess, let's see, that would be seventy five. I

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Speaker 6: would be nineteen twenty years old.

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Speaker 3: Then, yeah, that's really young.

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Speaker 6: Knee knocking terror, just absolute terror. I had no idea

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Speaker 6: if I had.

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Speaker 7: Any business even trying this, and would you know, like

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Speaker 7: it would be like doing well, like a cliff dive

476
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Speaker 7: in Acapulco or something. You know those guys they dive,

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Speaker 7: They wait for the water to come in at the

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Speaker 7: right time.

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Speaker 6: And then they dive. That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 7: So in my last special on Netflix, twenty three hours

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Speaker 7: to Kill, it starts with me jumping out of a

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Speaker 7: helicopter over.

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Speaker 6: The Hudson in New York City.

484
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Speaker 7: That's why you do the dive and that and it's

485
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Speaker 7: because that's what it felt like to go into comedy.

486
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Speaker 7: It felt like jumping out of a helicopter and I

487
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Speaker 7: had no idea what.

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Speaker 6: Was in that river? I just jumped.

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Speaker 3: And what do you remember from your first gig? Do

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Speaker 3: you ever still think about that, that first gig where

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Speaker 3: it all started.

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Speaker 6: I do, yeah, I think about it.

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Speaker 3: What can you remember?

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Speaker 6: I remember the quiet, I remember that that.

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Speaker 3: Would that would stay with you? That memory, wasn't it?

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Speaker 3: The silence.

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Speaker 7: You really, it's really quiet up there when you they

498
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Speaker 7: introduce you and you get up to the microphone and

499
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Speaker 7: there's not a sound in that room, and you realize, oh,

500
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Speaker 7: they're not They're.

501
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Speaker 6: Not even in a good mood, let alone laughing.

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Speaker 7: The thing that's, you know, gets you along is you're

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Speaker 7: around a lot of other people doing the same thing,

504
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Speaker 7: and then you do this and it's not very good,

505
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Speaker 7: and you come off stage and you talk to other

506
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Speaker 7: people well who also just had the same experience, and

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Speaker 7: now all of a sudden you're in a club with

508
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Speaker 7: these other people who are having these this you know,

509
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Speaker 7: brutalizing emotional experience and pursuing this absurd dream and being

510
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Speaker 7: in that club, I mean, to me, was just that

511
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Speaker 7: was that was everything I wanted in life right there.

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Speaker 7: I just want to be in the club.

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Speaker 6: You know, people say I'm a great comedian, or I'm

514
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Speaker 6: this or I'm not that great, or you know, I

515
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Speaker 6: don't care what people think. I just want to be

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Speaker 6: in the club.

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Speaker 3: It's just weird because that still comes across the like

518
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Speaker 3: comedians in cars, you know, you see your absolute joy

519
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Speaker 3: in hanging out with other funny people. And one of

520
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Speaker 3: my favorite episodes, is the one with Eddie Murphy where

521
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Speaker 3: you're so reverential to Eddie Murphy. To him, I think

522
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Speaker 3: you called him the special one or the magic one.

523
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Speaker 3: It's amazing how you still bow down to to Eddie Murphy.

524
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Speaker 3: Do you think he's the greatest to ever do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: To me, comedy is it's like a flavor, you know,

528
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Speaker 7: like me personally, I love marin aasauce.

529
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Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean it's the world's greatest flavor. It's

530
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Speaker 6: just what I like.

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Speaker 7: That's why they have all these different restaurants, Well, all

532
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Speaker 7: these different foods. Everybody likes something different, so everything everything

533
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Speaker 7: that exists, somebody loves it and somebody hates it, So

534
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Speaker 7: there's no greatest.

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Speaker 3: Are you still keeping up some kind of regular writing routine?

536
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Speaker 3: Do you still have a set days or set times?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 6: It's like those old surfers.

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Speaker 7: You ever see those old surfers that just keep paddling

542
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Speaker 7: out every day. They're all by themselves. They live on

543
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Speaker 7: some island in Hawaii or something, and they just paddle

544
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Speaker 7: out and catch some waves. That's what it is for me.

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Speaker 6: It's just a daily thing. Let's paddle out and see

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Speaker 6: if we can catch some.

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Speaker 3: Waves, and do you sit just down and you see

548
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Speaker 3: what comes up? Or have you got a couple of

549
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Speaker 3: ideas that you're working on? What are you working on

550
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Speaker 3: at the moment, for example, is there a big language,

551
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Speaker 3: tons of ideas.

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Speaker 7: I was just talking to a guy before I was

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Speaker 7: talking to you, and he said a quick question, and

554
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Speaker 7: I thought, well, what what is a quick question?

555
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Speaker 6: People say quick question? I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 3: And it was just hearing it.

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Speaker 6: So I'll jot that down. I go, I want to

558
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Speaker 6: do a bit about I'm sick of hearing question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No one ever says long question, do they?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Long question?

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Speaker 6: Long question?

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Speaker 3: Well listen, Jerry, we're running out of time. Thank you

565
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Speaker 3: very much for chat to us. I love the book

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Speaker 3: and on behalf of so many people listeners. Thank you

567
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Speaker 3: so much for working so hard at your gift and craft.

568
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Speaker 3: You make so many Hey, pleasure, All right, take care, Jerry.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we can see you in the next couple of

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Speaker 3: years again doing stand up.

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Speaker 2: You will The Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 3: Time for a special guest. He is officially the nicest

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Speaker 3: man in rock and roll. It is Dave Grohl from

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Speaker 3: The Food Fighters. Dave, what, ma'am Dave Grohl, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. How are you today?

577
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Speaker 3: And listen. I'm good and we've got lots of good

578
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Speaker 3: stuff to talk about. But please, can you just promise

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Speaker 3: us all in four years time you are going to

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Speaker 3: run for office. We need Dave Grohl find the desk

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Speaker 3: and behind a drum kit. We need you running America.

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Speaker 1: I have to be honest, after watching what happened with

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Speaker 1: Kanye there is absolutely no effing way I would ever

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Speaker 1: endorse a musician to be the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States of America. Absolutely no fing way.

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Speaker 3: You say that. Now fully's time you'll be running on this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know. The funny thing is, so I

588
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Speaker 1: grew up outside of Washington, DC, and my father was

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Speaker 1: a political speech writer. He's a campaign manager. So when

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Speaker 1: I was young, and it is in the seventies, I

591
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Speaker 1: kind of watched how a lot of this stuff works,

592
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Speaker 1: you know, and it used to be that people from

593
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Speaker 1: opposing parties could actually sit down with a bottle of

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Speaker 1: whiskey and have a talk and have a good time.

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, my father was a conservative Republican

596
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Speaker 1: and My mother is a liberal Democrat school teacher, so

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Speaker 1: I've kind of raised in the middle, and I do

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Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways that we can coexist.

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Speaker 1: I really do think that as a country, we should

600
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Speaker 1: be able to come together. But man, right now, it's

601
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Speaker 1: really black and white. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, show me the son of a civilized society is

603
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Speaker 3: how you tet to write each other's differences.

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Speaker 1: Right, you'd imagine? Yeah, I mean, listen. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the great things about being in the Food Fighters

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Speaker 1: is when we step out on stage and there's sixty

607
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Speaker 1: thousand people there. I don't imagine that all sixty thousand

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Speaker 1: of those people agree on everything, but they do sing

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Speaker 1: along together when we play My Hero, and they do

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Speaker 1: sing along together when we play Learn to Fly or

611
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Speaker 1: Pretender or Ever Long or Best of You. When everyone

612
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Speaker 1: can come together and sing the same chorus, that gives

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Speaker 1: me hope, Like, Okay, So you might not come from

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Speaker 1: the same place, or share the same belief or the

615
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Speaker 1: share the same religion or political party, but when it

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Speaker 1: comes to music, everyone gets together and sings a song together.

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Speaker 1: That means something to me, you know, not enough that

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Speaker 1: I would want to become the president. But in those

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Speaker 1: three hours, I can bring everyone together.

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Speaker 7: And do that.

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Speaker 1: That means a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But live music, don't you think Dave as a

623
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Speaker 3: fan and a musician yourself, it's an act of communion.

624
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Speaker 3: When you're there, You're like you're all in it together.

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Speaker 3: There's a oneness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Long before I was ever a successful musician, I

628
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Speaker 1: was one of those kids in the crowd, stage diving

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Speaker 1: and you know, arms around people I don't know, singing

630
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Speaker 1: along to a chorus together. So I understand what it

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Speaker 1: feels like to be connected to an audience and to

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Speaker 1: an artist. Human beings need to do that, and we

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Speaker 1: will again. Who knows when or how or where, but

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Speaker 1: it will happen because we have to.

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about this next year. You've got

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Speaker 3: two anniversaries in your life, never mind hits thirty and

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Speaker 3: then the food fight is you're twenty five. How do

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Speaker 3: you feel about that sort of coming of age of

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Speaker 3: going from twenty something Dave grow to fifty something Dave Grow.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, man, I mean, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: that different than I did when I was twenty to

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I honestly don't. When I see

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Speaker 1: my face I'm like, oh my god, you know, but

644
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Speaker 1: when but my heart and my soul, like I really

645
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Speaker 1: feel the same, not much as I don't feel that

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Speaker 1: much different. And I still play music for the same

647
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Speaker 1: reasons I did when I was seventeen, eighteen years old,

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Speaker 1: So I'd love to do it, you know, But I do.

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Speaker 1: I actually do love aging. I love I mean when

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Speaker 1: we go play a festival somewhere and I walk through

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Speaker 1: the backstage and there's all these new bands that are

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Speaker 1: like handsome and young and happy and fresh and fit,

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Speaker 1: and then I walk through and I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I look like aqua lug.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I Like, I walk through like gray hair and I'm limping,

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Speaker 1: you know. I actually, I actually take pride in that.

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Speaker 1: I really do. I take pride in just having survived,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now suddenly you're a dad, You still doing

661
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Speaker 3: the school run?

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Speaker 1: Duve, Yeah, dude, I'm you know, I did. I ride

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Speaker 1: bikes to my kids to school. Like one of my

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Speaker 1: kids goes to school right down street from my house.

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Speaker 1: So everybody's pulling up in their Mercedes and their Tesla's

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Speaker 1: and they're like cool cars, and I ride up on

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Speaker 1: a girl's bicycle. But you know those are it's those

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: quality moments with your children that mean the most. So yeah,

669
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: then lately with remote schooling, it's like they don't even

670
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: ask me for help. They know, they're like, daddy's a dropout.

671
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Don't ask them about hope with high school, you know,

672
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: so they just you know, I have I poke my

673
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: head in there having gone. They're like, good, get out

674
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: and I go, okay.

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00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: Then that's it, So Dave. One thing to interview musicians

676
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: over the year is one thing that you all have

677
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: in common, despite different backgrounds. Somewhere between the age of

678
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: ten and thirteen, something happens to you where you get

679
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: lit up and you don't realize may time if you

680
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: just find a passional joy, but music starts to mean

681
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: something to you, and you from that moment your whole

682
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: life changes. Was that what happened you on? What band?

683
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: Was it that sort of ignited that joy that spark

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Speaker 3: in you.

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00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: It's absolutely what happened to me, and it's absolutely what

686
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of musicians because that little window

687
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: of time from the ages of ten to thirteen to fourteen,

688
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: that's where you're really becoming independent in a lot of ways,

689
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Speaker 1: and you're discovering your own identity. You no longer just

690
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: belong to your parents. You're becoming yourself. And so if

691
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: you connect with music, or if you pick up an instrument,

692
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: connect to an instrument and then really fall in love

693
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: with music. The practice of playing music or just listening

694
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: to music, that becomes a part of your identity and

695
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the type of music you listen to, because it starts

696
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: to define who you are. For me, it was around

697
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: the age of ten years old. I got a guitar

698
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: and I got some Beatles records and I just sat

699
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: in front of my record player listening to Beatles records

700
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: over and over and over again as I played along

701
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: with this little song book that I had and that

702
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, by eleven years old, I was like, I'm

703
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: a musician. I mean, that was like a little kid,

704
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, but that it has a lot to do

705
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: with identity and learning discovering who you are in those years.

706
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: And if you happen to have an instrument in your lap,

707
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, odds are you're going to become a musician,

708
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: and because you're so passionate about it, you will be

709
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: a successful musician. That's kind of how it works.

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: That's amazing and it's so must have been amazing for you.

711
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Then years later when you're jamming with McCartney in the

712
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: home city of the Beatles in Liverpool.

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00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there have been some really huge, full circle

714
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: moments in my life, but I have to say that

715
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: one takes the cake to be able to just the

716
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: day that I met him for the first time. I

717
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: mean like it was like the matrix opened up and

718
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: the space time continuum went backwards and I was like,

719
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: this is this a multiverse? Is this real? Or am

720
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: I dreaming? So yes, those and I I never take

721
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: any of this for granted, but I never take those

722
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: moments for granted. Big big deal to me for sure.

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00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we can see you live here in Australia

724
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: next year. Can't wait to hear the new album. The

725
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: new single Shame Shame is out now. It's got to

726
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: be great to finally have your new music out there.

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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Dave.

728
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: Music is made to be heard, man, whether it's in

729
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: your kitchen on a Saturday night or in the stadium

730
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: down the street. That's what we do it for. We

731
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: do it so that you can sing along, so you

732
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: can dance along, so you can hear it. So I'm

733
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: really glad we're able to give this one of the

734
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: world for sure.

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, we need you back in the world right now.

736
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: And I'll see you in the White House in four

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00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: years time.

738
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see you there.

739
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, see man.

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 7: Bye.

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