WEBVTT - The Aussie athletes calling for bolder climate action

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is this is the Daily ARS.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Daily OS.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the third of September. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Emma Gillespie, I'm Lucy Tassel. A group of prominent Australian

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<v Speaker 3>athletes have signed an open letter calling on the federal

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<v Speaker 3>government to commit to an emissions reduction target of at

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<v Speaker 3>least seventy five percent below two thousand and five levels

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<v Speaker 3>by twenty thirty five. Sport four seventy five percent. The

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<v Speaker 3>campaign behind the letter says, quote in sport, we understand

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<v Speaker 3>ambitious goals and understand what it means to achieve them.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to climate, we expect the same from

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<v Speaker 3>our leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>The pledge has been signed by professionals from across the

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<v Speaker 1>fields of the AFL rugby union, soccer, surfing, cycling, snow sports,

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<v Speaker 1>athletics and beyond. Include Dating Matilda's player Alex chidiak Ex

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<v Speaker 1>socru Craig Foster, Freemantle captain Alex Pierce and AFLW legend

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola Barr.

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<v Speaker 3>Barr joined GWS as the number one pick in the

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<v Speaker 3>inaugural AFLW draft in twenty sixteens. After nine seasons with

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants, she signed with Saint Kilda last year. But

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<v Speaker 3>off the field, Bar works with several climate and environment groups,

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<v Speaker 3>including front Runners and Athlete Led Conservation Organization and the

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<v Speaker 3>group behind Sport for seventy five. To tell us more

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<v Speaker 3>about this letter and what it's calling for, Barr joins

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<v Speaker 3>us for today's deep dive.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into it, here's a quick word from

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 3>Nicola Barr. Welcome to the Dally Os Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>We are very excited to be chatting to you today.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about this Sport for seventy five initiative.

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<v Speaker 3>The campaign is calling for a seventy five percent emissions

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<v Speaker 3>reduction by twenty thirty five. Why this targets specifically, Where

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<v Speaker 3>is the seventy five coming from?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I guess what we know is that seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five percent is a really strong target and it's what

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<v Speaker 2>the experts are telling us, and so that's why we're

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<v Speaker 2>calling for a seventy five percent reduction in Australia's emissions.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know that it's not just good for the economy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also good for sport and that's why athletes are

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on board and really trying to call for meaningful action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to understand a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 3>why this initiative matters to athletes. We've got professional sports people,

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<v Speaker 3>retired sports people from across a whole range of different sports.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it about this diverse coalition that works why?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think this really started as well from the

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<v Speaker 2>amazing leadership of the Business for seventy five campaign. They've

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<v Speaker 2>had some amazing companies like Fortescue and Unilever and lend

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<v Speaker 2>Lease and Ika all jump on board calling for a

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<v Speaker 2>target of seventy five percent as well. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>of athletes, you know, we're seeing climate change impact sport

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<v Speaker 2>across all different kinds of sports and codes. And what

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<v Speaker 2>we know as athletes is that whilst it's impacting us

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<v Speaker 2>at the elite level, the biggest impacts are on grassroots

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<v Speaker 2>sport and community sport. And we grew up playing sport,

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<v Speaker 2>loving sport, and really want future generations of kids to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to experience the same things that we did

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<v Speaker 2>as kids. And I guess for athletes, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>role models in society a lot of the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>our voice can have a really positive impact.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess joining.

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<v Speaker 2>Together is a really nice way to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>call for meaningful action from our government. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia we punch well above our weight when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the world stage on sport, and we think

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<v Speaker 2>that we can when it comes to climate action as well.

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<v Speaker 3>How has extreme weather or climate change impacted your playing career?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen it firsthand? What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, when we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Summer bush fire, I was playing for the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants in Greater Western Sydney and I can remember running

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<v Speaker 2>out to training in what felt like apocalyptic conditions.

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<v Speaker 4>We sort of ran outside.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the sky was orange, there was ash in

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<v Speaker 2>the sky, and we were doing laps around the oval

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't even breathe properly. And I guess that the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that I'd had with my teammates at the time was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if this is impacting us and we have

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<v Speaker 2>all the resources to adapt and change our training so

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<v Speaker 2>that we can stay safe, what does this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>experience mean for younger athletes and grassroots athletes?

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<v Speaker 4>And so that was probably.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time that happened, and then since then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we played in extreme heat conditions. We've played in Blacktown

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<v Speaker 2>in thirty six degrees and even this year alone in

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<v Speaker 2>the AFL we saw Round one rescheduled due to cyclone Alfred.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen extreme heat, you know, even into Round five

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<v Speaker 2>that gather around in Adelaide. So it's impacting all sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just caught out a couple of AFL examples because

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I played. But we know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even recently a report on the impacts of climate on cricket,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many games are being impacted by extreme weather.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not just the athletes who are suffering.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the sports fans that go there, it's the coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the volunteers. This is something that impacts everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>loves sport, and in Australia, sports such a huge part

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<v Speaker 2>of the way we live our lives and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do everything we can to make sure everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>experience it into the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the cricket example is really interesting because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, while we're not all professional athletes, we are

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<v Speaker 3>a sporting nation. There are so many of us who

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<v Speaker 3>love being spectators and supporting our favorite sporting codes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they may be. It's interesting to think about the

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<v Speaker 3>impact of what that's like on the other side, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in the stands of the SCG for a test

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<v Speaker 3>on a forty degree day and the health impacts there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely. Like I said, it's not just the athletes

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<v Speaker 2>that this is impacting. It's impacting everyone involved in sport.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we've seen several examples of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fans who are sitting in the stands or in the

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<v Speaker 2>ground suffering from heat exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 4>It does become a real to sport itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So we really want to make sure that the sport's

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything that it can to protect itself into the

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<v Speaker 2>future and to safeguard fans, athletes, volunteers, coaches, everyone involved.

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<v Speaker 3>The open letter states in sport, we understand ambitious goals.

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<v Speaker 3>How does your mindset as an athlete translate into your

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<v Speaker 3>approach to goal setting and climate advocacy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when we were thinking about this at front Runners,

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<v Speaker 2>we really thought, you know, what do athletes think, and

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly know from my own experience, like you always

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<v Speaker 2>want to set the bar really high for yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>for your team, and we just thought, why would we

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<v Speaker 2>not do the same when it comes to climate action, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would we set ourself a goal that is like

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<v Speaker 2>too easy to achieve or not ambitious. That's not what

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<v Speaker 2>we do when we're thinking about high performance and wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to get the best out of ourselves. We always set high,

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<v Speaker 2>high goals and high expectations and often we can end

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<v Speaker 2>up achieving them because we put things in plays to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that we can actually reach that goal. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just a really great metaphor to think

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<v Speaker 2>about when we think about athletes setting high goals for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that we can do the same when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to climate action and reducing our emissions here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>There's obviously a policy push here that will require action

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<v Speaker 3>from lawmakers. But what can competitions like the AFLW be

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<v Speaker 3>doing to better support players through a climate crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great point. And in AFLW, we actually

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<v Speaker 2>used to play over the summer months, which was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>looking back now is crazy. We had games I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>before where we play in really extreme heat conditions of

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty six degrees plus. So we have shifted the

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<v Speaker 2>competition to now be played over the more winter and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess spring months as well, which is definitely helping that. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>we are seeing hotter days creep into those months outside

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<v Speaker 2>of summer as well, so it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is really something to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what sports governing bodies like the AFL can

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<v Speaker 2>continue to do is advocate and speak really positively about

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<v Speaker 2>climate action to their fans and followers, but also thinking

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<v Speaker 2>really practically about what they can do. It's all about

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<v Speaker 2>making sure there's a really strong heat policy and that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's across what that means and what that looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that everyone knows actually where the heat policy

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<v Speaker 2>sits and what it means for them, but also making

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<v Speaker 2>sure we're moving away from high polluting sponsors as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really important part of what sport can do

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to positive role modeling as well.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of conversation in the news at the

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<v Speaker 3>moment about emissions reduction targets, a push within the nationals

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<v Speaker 3>to scrap net zero. Do you feel that there are

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<v Speaker 3>maybe some misunderstandings or some myths that need to be

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<v Speaker 3>busted in the emissions reduction space. Is there something that

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<v Speaker 3>you wish you could clarify or that you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>clarify through sport for seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think I would start off by saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not an industrial systems analyst or economic model, but

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<v Speaker 2>what I do know is that are plenty of experts

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<v Speaker 2>out there, like the climate change authorities Matt keain an

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<v Speaker 2>New's professor Frank Jotsoe explaining that this target actually is

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<v Speaker 2>really achievable. Like we said before, what's the point of

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<v Speaker 2>setting targets if they're easy to hit. That's definitely what

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<v Speaker 2>our mindset is as athletes, and I think the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing to say is that a show has always been

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<v Speaker 2>an innovator. We've got the highest penetration of rooftop solar

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, and already forty percent of our electricity

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<v Speaker 2>comes from renewable sources. So we're in pole position to

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrate our leadership on emissions reduction. And if we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do things like host the next cop and show

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<v Speaker 2>communities and the rest of the world that we're really

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<v Speaker 2>serious about this, we do need to commit to it

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<v Speaker 2>with an ambitious target.

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<v Speaker 3>What needs to be done from here? How do we

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<v Speaker 3>increase our targets to incorporate those ambitions to make this possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I think that the other thing I should

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<v Speaker 2>have said before is that our current climate commitments by

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<v Speaker 2>states and territories already point to a reduction of between

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six to seventy one percent by twenty thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So a national target of seventy five percent is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>within our reach.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think now it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just about having conversations with the right people to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we are setting this really ambitious target. And

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<v Speaker 2>we can see that so many people want this here

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. You know, we've had seventy five athletes for

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five percent reduction, and you know we're getting athletes

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on board this campaign more and more as we speak,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can see that business really wants this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's just about having the right conversations

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<v Speaker 2>and working together to make sure that we can protect

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<v Speaker 2>the future for generations to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking ahead to twenty thirty five, if this campaign is successful,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you hope the sporting landscape will look like?

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<v Speaker 3>How will it be different from today?

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<v Speaker 4>I think what it'll look like is more of what

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<v Speaker 4>we love right. Sport brings us together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a place where we can cheer for our teams,

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<v Speaker 2>commiserate if they're not going well, and it's a place

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<v Speaker 2>where we can have a lot of joy. Whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>elite sport or community sport. It's one of those places

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<v Speaker 2>that is there for everyone. Sport is there for everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a really important place that we can, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>come together in times of hardship as well. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on in the world, and I think for

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<v Speaker 2>us at front As, sport is such a beautiful way

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<v Speaker 2>for us to connect as community and it really shows

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<v Speaker 2>what we can be like at our best. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>what it looks like is sport continuing to be a

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<v Speaker 2>huge part of our society moving forward. It's great for

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<v Speaker 2>our health, it's great for our communities, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to see that be able to continue into the future.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sein I see your passion, Nikola. Before we let

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<v Speaker 3>you go, it's been a week since we broke here

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<v Speaker 3>at TDA the story from the incredible Mitch Brown coming

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<v Speaker 3>out as the first openly gay or bisexual male player

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<v Speaker 3>past or present in the AFL. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>sponsor a comment on that one to share with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>We think Mitch Brown is absolutely amazing here at front Runners.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually supported a lot of our campaigns as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so we absolutely love what Mitch does.

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<v Speaker 4>And really applaud him for his bravery and what he's been.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to do, particularly with you guys in the last

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<v Speaker 2>week in terms of what it means for the AFL

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope this is a positive step and mich

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<v Speaker 2>has been really brave to come out and do what

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<v Speaker 2>he's done. And I think Mitch even said in a

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<v Speaker 2>statement later to get along to an AFLW game, and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason for that is I think AFLW can show

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<v Speaker 2>how inclusive and amazing sport can be when we do

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<v Speaker 2>create safe spaces for people to be themselves. So just

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<v Speaker 2>really hope that what Mitch has done has a really

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<v Speaker 2>positive flow on effect. I know it's already had a

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<v Speaker 2>massive impact and just completely think he's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>So love Mitch, brilliant. Thank you so much for your time, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>No worries, thanks for having me, Emma A big thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Nichola Barth for joining us on today's podcast. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back again this afternoon with the headlines. Until then,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day.

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<v Speaker 4>Bunjelung Calgutin woman from Gadighl country.

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