1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the Daily ARS. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: This is the Daily OS. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the third of September. I'm 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: Emma Gillespie, I'm Lucy Tassel. A group of prominent Australian 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 3: athletes have signed an open letter calling on the federal 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: government to commit to an emissions reduction target of at 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: least seventy five percent below two thousand and five levels 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: by twenty thirty five. Sport four seventy five percent. The 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: campaign behind the letter says, quote in sport, we understand 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: ambitious goals and understand what it means to achieve them. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: When it comes to climate, we expect the same from 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: our leaders. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: The pledge has been signed by professionals from across the 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: fields of the AFL rugby union, soccer, surfing, cycling, snow sports, 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: athletics and beyond. Include Dating Matilda's player Alex chidiak Ex 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: socru Craig Foster, Freemantle captain Alex Pierce and AFLW legend 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Nicola Barr. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: Barr joined GWS as the number one pick in the 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: inaugural AFLW draft in twenty sixteens. After nine seasons with 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: the Giants, she signed with Saint Kilda last year. But 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: off the field, Bar works with several climate and environment groups, 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: including front Runners and Athlete Led Conservation Organization and the 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: group behind Sport for seventy five. To tell us more 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: about this letter and what it's calling for, Barr joins 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: us for today's deep dive. 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Before we get into it, here's a quick word from 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: our sponsor. 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: Nicola Barr. Welcome to the Dally Os Podcast. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me. 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: We are very excited to be chatting to you today. 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: We are talking about this Sport for seventy five initiative. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: The campaign is calling for a seventy five percent emissions 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: reduction by twenty thirty five. Why this targets specifically, Where 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: is the seventy five coming from? 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess what we know is that seventy 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: five percent is a really strong target and it's what 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: the experts are telling us, and so that's why we're 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: calling for a seventy five percent reduction in Australia's emissions. 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: And we know that it's not just good for the economy, 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: it's also good for sport and that's why athletes are 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: jumping on board and really trying to call for meaningful action. 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to understand a little bit more about 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: why this initiative matters to athletes. We've got professional sports people, 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: retired sports people from across a whole range of different sports. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: What is it about this diverse coalition that works why? 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: Now? 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 2: Look, I think this really started as well from the 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: amazing leadership of the Business for seventy five campaign. They've 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: had some amazing companies like Fortescue and Unilever and lend 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Lease and Ika all jump on board calling for a 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: target of seventy five percent as well. And I think 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: of athletes, you know, we're seeing climate change impact sport 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: across all different kinds of sports and codes. And what 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: we know as athletes is that whilst it's impacting us 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: at the elite level, the biggest impacts are on grassroots 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: sport and community sport. And we grew up playing sport, 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: loving sport, and really want future generations of kids to 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: be able to experience the same things that we did 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: as kids. And I guess for athletes, you know, we're 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: role models in society a lot of the time, and 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: our voice can have a really positive impact. 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: So I guess joining. 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Together is a really nice way to be able to 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: call for meaningful action from our government. We know that 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: in Australia we punch well above our weight when it 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: comes to the world stage on sport, and we think 68 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: that we can when it comes to climate action as well. 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: How has extreme weather or climate change impacted your playing career? 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Have you seen it firsthand? What does that look like? 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely. 72 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: I think in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, when we had 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: the Black Summer bush fire, I was playing for the 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Giants in Greater Western Sydney and I can remember running 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: out to training in what felt like apocalyptic conditions. 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: We sort of ran outside. 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: There was the sky was orange, there was ash in 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: the sky, and we were doing laps around the oval 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: and couldn't even breathe properly. And I guess that the 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: conversation that I'd had with my teammates at the time was, 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: you know, if this is impacting us and we have 82 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: all the resources to adapt and change our training so 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: that we can stay safe, what does this kind of 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: experience mean for younger athletes and grassroots athletes? 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: And so that was probably. 86 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: The first time that happened, and then since then, you know, 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: we played in extreme heat conditions. We've played in Blacktown 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: in thirty six degrees and even this year alone in 89 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: the AFL we saw Round one rescheduled due to cyclone Alfred. 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: We've seen extreme heat, you know, even into Round five 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: that gather around in Adelaide. So it's impacting all sports. 92 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: I've just caught out a couple of AFL examples because 93 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: that's where I played. But we know that, you know, 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: even recently a report on the impacts of climate on cricket, 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: and so many games are being impacted by extreme weather. 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: And it's not just the athletes who are suffering. 97 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: It's the sports fans that go there, it's the coaches, 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: it's the volunteers. This is something that impacts everyone who 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: loves sport, and in Australia, sports such a huge part 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: of the way we live our lives and we want 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: to do everything we can to make sure everyone can 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: experience it into the future. 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the cricket example is really interesting because 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, while we're not all professional athletes, we are 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: a sporting nation. There are so many of us who 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: love being spectators and supporting our favorite sporting codes, you know, 107 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: whatever they may be. It's interesting to think about the 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: impact of what that's like on the other side, you know, 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: sitting in the stands of the SCG for a test 110 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: on a forty degree day and the health impacts there. 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Like I said, it's not just the athletes 112 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: that this is impacting. It's impacting everyone involved in sport. 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: And I know we've seen several examples of you know, 114 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: fans who are sitting in the stands or in the 115 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: ground suffering from heat exhaustion. 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: It does become a real to sport itself. 117 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: So we really want to make sure that the sport's 118 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: doing everything that it can to protect itself into the 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: future and to safeguard fans, athletes, volunteers, coaches, everyone involved. 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: The open letter states in sport, we understand ambitious goals. 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: How does your mindset as an athlete translate into your 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: approach to goal setting and climate advocacy. 123 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: I guess when we were thinking about this at front Runners, 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: we really thought, you know, what do athletes think, and 126 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: I certainly know from my own experience, like you always 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: want to set the bar really high for yourself and 128 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: for your team, and we just thought, why would we 129 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: not do the same when it comes to climate action, Like, 130 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: why would we set ourself a goal that is like 131 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: too easy to achieve or not ambitious. That's not what 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: we do when we're thinking about high performance and wanting 133 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: to get the best out of ourselves. We always set high, 134 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: high goals and high expectations and often we can end 135 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: up achieving them because we put things in plays to 136 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: make sure that we can actually reach that goal. So yeah, 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: I think it's just a really great metaphor to think 138 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: about when we think about athletes setting high goals for themselves. 139 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: We know that we can do the same when it 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: comes to climate action and reducing our emissions here in Australia. 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: There's obviously a policy push here that will require action 142 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: from lawmakers. But what can competitions like the AFLW be 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: doing to better support players through a climate crisis. 144 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. And in AFLW, we actually 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: used to play over the summer months, which was, you know, 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: looking back now is crazy. We had games I mentioned 147 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: before where we play in really extreme heat conditions of 148 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: like thirty six degrees plus. So we have shifted the 149 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: competition to now be played over the more winter and 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: I guess spring months as well, which is definitely helping that. Unfortunately, 151 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: we are seeing hotter days creep into those months outside 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: of summer as well, so it. 153 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: Is really something to consider. 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: I think what sports governing bodies like the AFL can 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: continue to do is advocate and speak really positively about 156 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: climate action to their fans and followers, but also thinking 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: really practically about what they can do. It's all about 158 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: making sure there's a really strong heat policy and that 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: everyone's across what that means and what that looks like, 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: making sure that everyone knows actually where the heat policy 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: sits and what it means for them, but also making 162 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: sure we're moving away from high polluting sponsors as well. 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: That's a really important part of what sport can do 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: when it comes to positive role modeling as well. 165 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot of conversation in the news at the 166 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: moment about emissions reduction targets, a push within the nationals 167 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: to scrap net zero. Do you feel that there are 168 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: maybe some misunderstandings or some myths that need to be 169 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: busted in the emissions reduction space. Is there something that 170 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: you wish you could clarify or that you're trying to 171 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: clarify through sport for seventy five. 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Look, I think I would start off by saying I'm 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: definitely not an industrial systems analyst or economic model, but 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: what I do know is that are plenty of experts 175 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: out there, like the climate change authorities Matt keain an 176 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: New's professor Frank Jotsoe explaining that this target actually is 177 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: really achievable. Like we said before, what's the point of 178 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: setting targets if they're easy to hit. That's definitely what 179 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: our mindset is as athletes, and I think the other 180 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: thing to say is that a show has always been 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: an innovator. We've got the highest penetration of rooftop solar 182 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: in the world, and already forty percent of our electricity 183 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: comes from renewable sources. So we're in pole position to 184 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: demonstrate our leadership on emissions reduction. And if we want 185 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: to do things like host the next cop and show 186 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: communities and the rest of the world that we're really 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: serious about this, we do need to commit to it 188 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: with an ambitious target. 189 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: What needs to be done from here? How do we 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: increase our targets to incorporate those ambitions to make this possible. 191 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think that the other thing I should 192 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: have said before is that our current climate commitments by 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: states and territories already point to a reduction of between 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: sixty six to seventy one percent by twenty thirty five. 195 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: So a national target of seventy five percent is absolutely 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: within our reach. 197 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: So I think now it's. 198 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: Just about having conversations with the right people to make 199 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: sure that we are setting this really ambitious target. And 200 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: we can see that so many people want this here 201 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: in Australia. You know, we've had seventy five athletes for 202 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: seventy five percent reduction, and you know we're getting athletes 203 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: jumping on board this campaign more and more as we speak, 204 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: and we can see that business really wants this as well. 205 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 2: So I think it's just about having the right conversations 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: and working together to make sure that we can protect 207 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: the future for generations to come. 208 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: Looking ahead to twenty thirty five, if this campaign is successful, 209 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: what do you hope the sporting landscape will look like? 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: How will it be different from today? 211 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: I think what it'll look like is more of what 212 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: we love right. Sport brings us together. 213 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: It's a place where we can cheer for our teams, 214 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: commiserate if they're not going well, and it's a place 215 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: where we can have a lot of joy. Whether that's 216 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: elite sport or community sport. It's one of those places 217 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: that is there for everyone. Sport is there for everyone, 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: and it's a really important place that we can, I guess, 219 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: come together in times of hardship as well. There's a 220 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: lot going on in the world, and I think for 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: us at front As, sport is such a beautiful way 222 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: for us to connect as community and it really shows 223 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: what we can be like at our best. So for me, 224 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: what it looks like is sport continuing to be a 225 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: huge part of our society moving forward. It's great for 226 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: our health, it's great for our communities, and we just 227 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: want to see that be able to continue into the future. 228 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: It's sein I see your passion, Nikola. Before we let 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: you go, it's been a week since we broke here 230 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: at TDA the story from the incredible Mitch Brown coming 231 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: out as the first openly gay or bisexual male player 232 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: past or present in the AFL. Do you have a 233 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: sponsor a comment on that one to share with us today. 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: We think Mitch Brown is absolutely amazing here at front Runners. 235 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: He's actually supported a lot of our campaigns as well, 236 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: so we absolutely love what Mitch does. 237 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: And really applaud him for his bravery and what he's been. 238 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Able to do, particularly with you guys in the last 239 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: week in terms of what it means for the AFL 240 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: I really hope this is a positive step and mich 241 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: has been really brave to come out and do what 242 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: he's done. And I think Mitch even said in a 243 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: statement later to get along to an AFLW game, and 244 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: the reason for that is I think AFLW can show 245 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: how inclusive and amazing sport can be when we do 246 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: create safe spaces for people to be themselves. So just 247 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: really hope that what Mitch has done has a really 248 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: positive flow on effect. I know it's already had a 249 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: massive impact and just completely think he's awesome. 250 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: So love Mitch, brilliant. Thank you so much for your time, Nick. 251 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: No worries, thanks for having me, Emma A big thanks 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: to Nichola Barth for joining us on today's podcast. We'll 253 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: be back again this afternoon with the headlines. 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