1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just answers. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 3: Now. This is the Happy Family's Podcast on Doctor Justin Colson. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Here with my wife and mom to our six kids, Kylie. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 3: Today's day, Kylie. Today is the day that the all 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: new season two of Parental Guidance hits TV screens around 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: the nation Channel nine, this very evening. And to kick 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: it all off, we thought that on The Happy Family's 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Podcast today, we would do something different. We're going to 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: have a chat not with the stars of the show, 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: but with the super brain behind the show. Her name 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: is Melissa McLain. Mel maclain is the executive producer of 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Parental Guidance. She's the one who hatched the idea in 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: the very first place, right when it was not even 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: called Parental Guidance, and she joins some of the podcast today. 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Mel Welcome to the podcast. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Hello, thanks for having me. That's quite the introduction. I 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: can't take full credit, you know. 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: Mel, I think that you can. Today you're going to 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: We're going to bestowed upon you all credit to me. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: I know that there's an amazing team behind the show. 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: There really is an exceptional group of people, but you're 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: the one who's getting the glory today and we're doing 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: something different. It's normally me who asks the questions, but 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: today something different. Kylie has going to be the interviewer 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: because I already know the answers to most of the questions. 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: I think given that I'm on the show, so I'm 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: going to take a back seat, which is really hard 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: for me on the podcast. As Kylie Willer test, now 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: you're laughing at me. 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: He says that I'm going to do the interview, but 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: we'll see Chris. Usually he takes over. 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: You watch, you watch. I'm going to be exceptional. I'm 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: going to be quite Kylie. The interview is yours, Mel. 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Get ready for the interview of your life from Kylie Coulson, 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: the co host of the Happy Families podcast Mel. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Before we get into the nitty gritty of the interview, 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: I think that we might need to just make sure 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: that Justin stays grounded, even though he thinks that the 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: world revolves. 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Around Come on, I'm trying to be quiet here. You 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: can't do this soon in our house. 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: I just see him as one of the eight miles. 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: That need to be fed. 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about the show and I'm wondering what 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: your criteria was for selecting a parenting expert, because clearly 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: it didn't have much to do with being a handyman 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: or even needing to know how to change the light 49 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: bulb let alone being much use to anyone during the 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: middle of the night. So what was your criteria? I'm 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: really interested to know. 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes you just have to settle. That's not what happens. 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: That's not what happens. We really were looking for someone 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: who genuinely knew their stuff, and Justin had the letters, 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: so we were pretty impressed by that. And I saw 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: a ted talk of Justin's called raising Rebels and thought, 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: this is the guy. This is our parenting expert. And 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: fortunately everyone at nine agreed, so we had our parenting expert. 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Good news is he doesn't have to do much. He 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: sits there and talks. 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: You know what, that's actually really true. The filming takes 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: what like five six days in studio with the families 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: going through so much stuff, and for the most part 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: Mel says Justin, just don't say anything yet, and I 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: just sit on the couch and listen. 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: That must have been so so hard. 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: But then as Mel, I'm sure we'll attest. It's almost like, 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: you know, when you're holding the dog back, the dog 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: wants to chase the birds, chase the bird, and you 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: see wait, wait, and then when you say go and 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: the dog just goes for it. 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: And it's an avalanche, wasn't it, Mel, When you finally 73 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: let leaps. 74 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: That's right. It was so great when Justin would come 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: in at the end of a really fantastic conversation between 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: the parents and just sort everybody out, give us a 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: bit of Justin wisdom. Justin wisdom. I love it. 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, I know what he's like to live with. I'm 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: wondering what was he like on set? Was he a 80 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: bit demanding? Is it from it? Honor? 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Apart from the blue emin ns, No, there were no 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: blo them requests. It was so great on set. Something 83 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: that I really love about working with Justin is he's 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: very open minded and he stays in his lane. He's 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the parenting expert, and he says, Mel, you're the TV person, 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Or he just works 87 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: in with everybody else. And seeing Justin and Ali work 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: together was really really lovely to see just two fantastic 89 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: brains working to make great TV that was informative and entertaining. 90 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: And you're going to do another interview soon with Ali 91 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: towards the end of the show, and I can't wait 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: to hear the questions that you have for her based 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: on what you're doing. I mean right now with Mel, 94 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm just so excited for that interview, too light. 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: Our parenting is about arming our children with tools to 96 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: make good. 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Decisions in life when we're not able to be there. 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: I after school now, lummy, have a good day. 99 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: In a world filled with some less than positive reality 100 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: TV shows that families can't actually sit down and watch together, 101 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 2: Parental Guidance has come onto the scene and just given 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: us something beautiful to sit down and enjoy together. As 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: a family who came up with the original concept, it. 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Really grew over time. It started off as a fairly 105 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: modest show looking at different parenting styles and how they 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: might do homework or how they might do meal time. 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: But more documentary style, yeah, more chat show. 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Almost chat show meets documentary, that's right, So almost embedding 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: with a family to watch what they do for a week. 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: And what we realized was when I came on board, 111 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to be very illustrative to families at home. 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't compare apples with apples. What we really need 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: is to create some challenges, some scenarios that each family 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: can go out and do, and then we see their 115 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: parenting styles in that situation, a very specific situation where 116 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: we can see actionable ways that people parent. 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: How did you come up with the challenges? Because they 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: were really good entertaining, but like you said, illustrative, they 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: really kind of pulled parenting apart in a way that 120 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: we've never seen before. 121 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: So some of the challenges, like the family photo shoot, 122 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: and very much from personal experience, we know that that's 123 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: really really hard to take your kids and get them smiling. 124 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: You've got almost opposing desires. The kids want to run 125 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: around and play and the parents are trying to get 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: this great photo. You're on a time crunch. There's a 127 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: lot going on in a family photo shoit. But then 128 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: other things came from issues that we knew people are 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: talking about, things like digital safety online. We knew everyone 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: was talking about it. How can we illustrate that in 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: a safe yet really interesting way? 132 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: From my perspective, I'm just one, But from my perspective, 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: Season one was just brilliant TV and it was so 134 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: great for even just our family to sit down and 135 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: watch it together and have the conversations with our kids. 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what the feedback was for you guys, and 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: how that then infiltrated into what we will now see 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: in season two. 139 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Parentic Guidance Series one went down an absolute treat. My 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: favorite feedback was overhearing parents at the playground talking about 141 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: it and going, oh, did you see this? And what 142 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: about this? 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 144 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have done it that way, 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Oh I would have. Actually having conversations about parenting was 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: really exciting, So we knew we had the groundwork laid. 147 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Everyone understood this idea of parenting styles and what the 148 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: show was and the fundamentals of the parenting styles. So 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do with season two was really 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: take things up a notch and look at parenting in 151 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the digital age, online safety, look at the really curly 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: questions like bullying and bystanders, and also take on a 153 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: few of the teenage topics. We haven't fully gone there 154 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: in every way, but explicit content on the bus on 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: the way to school. How are we dealing with that? 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: So we were a bit scared of teenagers the first 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: time around, but we got to go second time. 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: So I'm going to jump in here. I haven't said 159 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: anything for like, I don't know ten minutes. This is 160 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: a record on that family's podcast what I loved, and 161 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: me sort of tapped into it with the whole parents 162 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: talking about in the park. I've got a mate who well, 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: I've got a lot of bike riding mates and one 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: of the guys, just totally not a TV guy, was 165 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: chatting with me as we were writing, and he was like, 166 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: this TV show you're on, I've watched every part of it. 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize it was so good until I 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: was at footy with the boys on the weekend and 169 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: I was standing on the sideline and a couple of 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: the footy dads were talking about this show like it 171 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: got grandparents and mums, dads and kids all wanting to 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: talk about and compare how they're doing in their families 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: to how they did it when they were raising their kids, 174 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: or how they're doing it right now, or how the 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: neighbor or the sister in law whoever is doing it 176 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: like it. It just gets people thinking about parenting and 177 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: I just I love the way it sort of crossed 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: all of those boundaries. Like you said, Kylie, it feels 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: like it's the kind of show that brings everyone together. 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: And I can't help myself. I've got to put a 181 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: plug in for tonight. Season two is going to light 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: those conversations up in ways that season one never did. 183 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: It's I mean, seasone was great, but season two just 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: mind blown. Anyway back to the interview, Sorry, couldn't help it. 185 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Well, the best conversation I actually had was with a 186 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: group of strangers. I was in a creative space and 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: a grandma actually said, have you guys been watching this 188 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: TV show that's on Channel nine? And I decided to 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: actually not get involved in the conversation. I just wanted 190 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: to see it unfold. They had no idea who I was, 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: and they were just reveling as grandparents in what they 192 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: were seeing and that, you know, the conversations that they 193 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: were then having with their husbands and as a consequence, 194 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: the way they were trying to interact with their grandchildren. 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: And it was just such a delightful conversation having they 196 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: had no idea. 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: Did you jump in and say, how good is that 198 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: parenting expert? And he's so handsome? No, No, of course. 199 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: I totally left that. Well, obviously things are going to 200 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: air tonight's and we're all waiting, anticipating to. 201 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: See what unfolds. 202 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you can tell me, but 203 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: are there some standout moments that we should be looking 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: out for? 205 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: Seriously, I know this is Mels interview, but I just 206 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: got to say, tonight is so so big. I'm not 207 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: going to steal your thunder. What are we in for tonight? 208 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: And why is it must watch television? 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely is must watch television. It's just extraordinary. What 210 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: unfolds tonight? We get to know our first lot of parents, 211 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: which are these are the focused parents, So we get 212 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: to know the gentle parents, the lighthouse parents, the our 213 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: back parents, and the honest parent. Honest parenting is not 214 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: holding back. I'm very brutally honest. There needs to bring onions. Yes, 215 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: we definitely need to bring onions to Curry. I mean 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: everything green pretty. 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: Much that's in there. 218 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: It can be confronting to the kids at times. Not 219 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: let us for a Curry made. Oh it's great and 220 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: straight away, they're all really compelling, but I'm burying the 221 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: lead here. We get then get stuck into the grist 222 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: of online strangers and being safe online. 223 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: I just got grisebumps. 224 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: It's I had no idea before we did this challenge, 225 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: and I have kids in the age bracket, so I 226 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: really should have known better. But I learned a tremendous amount. 227 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: We were very fortunate, and we couldn't have done it 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: without the involvement of the AFP. They have a center 229 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: to counter a Child Exploitation and Detective Superintendent Jane Crosling 230 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: became involved to help us design the challenge and also 231 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: to give the parents some actual advice on how to 232 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: deal with this really massive issue. It's actually terrifying how 233 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: big this issue is. 234 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that blows me away with 235 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: this particular challenge and this particular issue is as parents, 236 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: we tend to be so sick of talking about online 237 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: safety and screens and social media and all that stuff 238 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: that we kind of just roll our eyes and go, 239 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: yeah whatever, and we I mean, when I'm in schools 240 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: principles tell me consistently the parents don't show up for 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: the digital talks, and so I don't do any digital 242 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: talks because I've got a number of friends who do 243 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: digital talks and they've got to work so hard to 244 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: get the parents to show up, and it's really the 245 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: parents that are already on top of that are showing 246 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: up anyway. But when you watch what happens in episode 247 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: one tonight, and I can't say anything other than it 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: will rock your world. It will absolutely rock your world. 249 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Just what life is actually like online for our kids. 250 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: This was one of the most compelling, eye opening, riveting 251 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: moments of me sitting in that studio with all those 252 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: families for the entire week. This was one of the 253 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: moments and I just I cannot emphasize enough how important 254 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: is not just for the entertainment value of watching a 255 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: great show, but if you if you care about your kids, 256 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: this is an episode you've got. 257 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: To watch, absolutely and I think people do need to 258 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: embrace this idea that you can do something and it's 259 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: never too late. 260 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: One of the things that I think most people I've 261 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: spoken to were nervous about was season one, was the 262 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: judgment that would take place between and this competitive notion 263 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: around parenting. Obviously, Season one I think a laid to 264 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: those fears for everybody. It was just so beautifully done, 265 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: and I want to use the word beautifully. It was 266 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: so beautifully done, because I feel like everybody was able 267 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: to come away filling whole from the experience, regardless of 268 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: what their parenting style was. How did you manage that 269 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: in the studio. 270 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: It's really tricky to be choosing a best parenting style 271 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: without things getting personal and competitive. Absolutely, what we tried 272 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: to do was make that level an added layer. It 273 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: wasn't the main game. The main game is to learn 274 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: from each other and talk about these issues. Any best 275 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: parenting style layer has to just come on top of 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a icing on the cake. 277 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: It's not what it's really all about. And even the 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: way the thank you is phrase, it's thank you for 279 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: sharing your best parenting style. It's not you're the winner. 280 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Here's a prize and a badge. There's no We never 281 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: talk about winners. We just talk about who, subjectively in 282 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: your opinion, has the best parenting style with these very 283 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: specific criteria. So I think by doing that we try 284 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: at least to make it as non competitive and everybody 285 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: grows out of it as possible. So it really is 286 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: a thank you and a pat on the back to 287 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: who is showing us and the most and who we're 288 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: learning from the most. 289 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I have to admit that there is I don't 290 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: think you could pay me enough money to be one 291 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: of those families sitting in that room so much courage 292 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: to actually take the leap and say I want to learn, 293 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: and I want to learn in a public forum, because 294 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: that's what you're doing. You're essentially recognizing that there's things 295 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: that you can learn from others as a result of 296 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: your opportunity to be there. But you're also in the 297 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: spotlight and everyone gets to see your fobles, your weaknesses 298 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: as well as your strengths. But they're all there. 299 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the generosity of each of those parents, and they 300 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: are all genuinely great parents. They wouldn't be there if 301 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: they weren't. We wouldn't put bad parents on TV. That 302 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: would be unfair. So they're all great parents, and there's 303 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: something to learn from every one of them. 304 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: And they're not only they're brave, but they're willing to 305 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: have completely direct and sometimes really hard conversations. But like 306 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: you said, Mel, there's this openness, there's this generosity, there's 307 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: this Okay, well I'm on the show, so hit me 308 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: with it, because I'm going to learn and grow with 309 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: this feedback. Even if I don't like the feedback, Like 310 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: just I think it's extraordinary that they do it. And 311 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: you know the other thing that I love, Ali and 312 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: I aren't choosing the winners. I really appreciate that they're 313 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: deciding and I know we're not using the word winner 314 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: at all really, but they're deciding who's going to get 315 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: the goods at the end. They're deciding who they're going 316 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: to elevate, who they're going to celebrate, who they're going 317 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: to hold up and say, we really appreciate you and 318 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: the way you're raising your kids. 319 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: Well, this is really a one of a kind TV 320 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: show because in every other reality TV show there is 321 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: a specific winner and it's you know, elimination rounds. Whereas 322 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: what Parental Guidance is basically saying is we want to 323 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: elevate you, want to see more of what you have 324 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: to offer. We want to learn from what you're doing 325 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: as a parent to kind of, I guess better supplement 326 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: what we're doing. I love that about parental Guidance. 327 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I knew we never wanted to eliminate. I said, 328 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: that is not an option. We can't eliminate people. They 329 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: don't learn anything if they're not eliminated, you're taking out. 330 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: I think of it as nippers, you know what, nippers, 331 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: but they've got to run to catch the flag. And 332 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: it's always the slowest kid that gets out. It's like 333 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: that's kids never getting faster because they always go out 334 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. So we can't eliminate. We're just 335 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: leaving behind if we eliminate. So we have to keep 336 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: everybody together. And it's a lot more positive that way. 337 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I love it. 338 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: In spite of the positivity, where there's some moments that 339 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: were pretty tense that you had to kind of navigate. 340 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh, so many moments. There's enough going on without eliminating people. 341 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: We have the challenge that you'll see tonight is actually breathtaking, 342 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: the one about the online strange where we have the AFP. 343 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: As soon as the AFP enter the room, everybody sits 344 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: up straight. Is are they here for my parking fines? 345 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Are they here because they saw me on my mobile 346 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: phone driving? It's really serious, serious stuff. So and the 347 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: bullying bystander challenge is another one where just go, wow, 348 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: what do we need to teach our kids so that 349 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: we can stop this bullying problem? So we don't bully 350 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: the kids don't worry. It's very much a bystander challenge. 351 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: There are lots of moments that are very tense, but 352 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: we're always learning from. 353 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: As we sat down with the kids last season and 354 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: watched it, what was really cute was going, oh, mom 355 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: and dad are a bit of them, and oh, they're 356 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: also a bit of them, and yeah, you're not really 357 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: any one parenting style. I mean, as the executive producer, 358 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: what is it that you're hoping parents are going to 359 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: walk away with after watching season two? 360 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: I hope that parents take away the idea that they 361 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: need to be autonomy supportive. I think in different ways. 362 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: That's very justin speak, but people need to let kids 363 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: make up their own mind about stuff. Don't make them 364 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: wear jumpers if it's not if they don't feel cold, 365 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: don't worry about it like they'll figure it out. Let 366 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: them have safe, natural consequences, Let them have real choices 367 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: over their lives, because that comes up over and over again. 368 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: When kids feel like they can make their own choices 369 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: and their parents are supportive of that, the relationship is better, 370 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: which means they're more likely to be doing what you 371 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: want them to do anyway, and they're happier. So just 372 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: do that. Is that the right answer, Justin? Is that 373 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: the takeaway for the parents so funny. 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 3: Just before we wrap the podcast, Kylie, for somebody who 375 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: doesn't like doing interviews, mel your feedback. 376 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: Well, as a professional in the television industry, Kylie, I 377 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: can advise you that your voice is really lovely, really warm. 378 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: You're engaged in question asking this and you're curious, which 379 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: is all you really need to be a great interviewer. 380 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: So I think you could do this a little more often. 381 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: You're very kind, Malt. 382 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll have missus Happy Families joining me on some 383 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: interviews moving forward. Your questions, Kylie, if I can throw 384 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: this in there as well, your questions were great, hosta, 385 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: thank you great, great conversation. 386 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Really well, thanks for having me. 387 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: The Happy Families Podcast is produced by Justin Roland from 388 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer. Hey, thanks 389 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: for listening. I hope you're loving it. We'd love to 390 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: feed that podcasts at happy families dot com dot au 391 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: and we'll see you tomorrow on the Happy Families Podcast.