1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast that bite size. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: If you fill a bit flat and you're after a boost, 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: then litter up to this tin bit baby. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 3: It's a tid bit. It's will do we a ben 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: health tid tid bit baaby I did bit baby. Had 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 3: that in my head this morning. 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I was singing it to my daughter as I was 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: changing her nappy. I was like, you know what, nice 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: tidbit time today. Pretty excited about tidbittimes. I couldn't have arrived. 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: At a better time. I had the day off yesterday. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: Ash London, the beautiful Ash London filled in for me. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Thank you again Ash for having my back, saving my bacon, 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: and thank you to. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: My whole team. 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Actually, you guys are amazing always cover for me when 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: I am in that sort of a spot, and I 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: really appreciate it because it would have been There's. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: No way it could have come in. 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: So the reason I'm bringing this up because I wanted 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: to try and get a positive out of it if 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: I can, and if that's and that's trying to help 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: you guys, maybe if you what I call need a 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: break glass in case of emergency day. So yesterday for 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: me was a pretty tell tale you're not going anywhere, 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: sort of. 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: A day in classic will fashion. 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I sorry, what does that look like when you say 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: it was you knew it was one of those days 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: from the moment you woke up or so what happens? 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: Great question, and this is my I've got three steps 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: to the break glass in case of emergency day. Step one, 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: if you're going to set up a break glass in 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: case of emergency day, get people, Get one or two 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: people who are going to be able to tell you 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: that you need to have a break glass in case 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: of emergency day. Because very very hard to call yourself. 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: And if you like me or like a lot of people, 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: really you feel like you're letting everyone down by not 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: coming to work and you're going to you know the 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: world's going to end. Effectively, you really need people, one 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: or two people close to you to just say very firmly, 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: this is not happening today. 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: And because I often wake up if. 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm feeling depressed, and I'll kind of counteract it, so 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh no, it's like I'll subconsciously no, 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: it's there. 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: I'll just do all the normal things. Doubly is hard 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: to make sure it goes away as I always a 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: little bit. 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: As I always say about depression, if if you're depressed, 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: it's raining outside, so if you're going to go outside, 52 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: you're just going to get wet. 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: It was raining. I was trying to go outside, but 54 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: I was going. 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: To get wet, but get very very wet. 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: So my partner just said to me, this is going 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: on so. 58 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Yesterday morning, though, So you're pretending that everything's fine and 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: that your partner's able to go. 60 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: You're pretending absolutely And there's certain things that I can't 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: make decisions. 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: I'm not very good at communicating in general. 63 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: We can't hold eye contact for very long, get frustrated 64 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: very quickly at little things, those sorts of things, and 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: so I rely on either Sam or or If I 66 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 2: get all the way into work and Sam doesn't raise 67 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: the flag, then you raise the flag woods. 68 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: So then when you have that chat, and then I'll 69 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: go home. 70 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing I would say in a 71 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: break break glass in case of emergency day. I know 72 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: that's a big thing to build up over time. But 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: if you haven't got a partner, maybe the person you 74 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: sit next to at work, maybe one of your family members. 75 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: If you're feeling a bit off, because even. 76 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: You messaged myself and Captain poop Pants at about ten 77 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning whatever, and you basically said, 78 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm having a tough day. 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm having a day. 80 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: But even in that message, you were going, look, I 81 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: can't come in early, but I can get in it 82 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: three o'clock and then I can do the show. And 83 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: so that's that what you're talking about. Before you would 84 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: feel guilty going and let people down, But then I guess. 85 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: You already feel like the biggest burden in the world. Yeah, 86 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: and the key how you're burdening more people. 87 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the way that poop Pants and I handle 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: that is, well, no, you're not coming in, and just 89 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: that's just what you're saying. Take the decision out of 90 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: your hand. So if someone like you says, so, if 91 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: someone says to you, yes, hey, not having struggling, but 92 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to come in, yes, it's sort of on 93 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the person they're telling you go no, no, no, don't. 94 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: I think so, you know, I would be very surprised 95 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: if you've got someone who's really struggling with their mental health, 96 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: who's got the ability. And I'm sure a lot of 97 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: people in management would already know this. It's very rare 98 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: that they're going to be able to go. I need 99 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: to take the day it would normally be I'm doing 100 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: my best to raise the white flag. 101 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: I'll go fifty percent of the way. 102 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: I need you to take the other fifty percent off 103 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: me because you just don't want to be a burden 104 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: on people. That's the big that's the big issue with 105 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: the mental health crisis is the only that we're feeling 106 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: like a burden on someone, we don't want to tell them. 107 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: So you kind of get halfway. What I did with 108 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: you guys, I. 109 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: Flagged it and then I was like, I could do 110 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: it from home, or I could just come into the show. 111 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Or I'm just trying to give you guys options. 112 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: I need someone to say to me, no, just no, 113 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: you can't do that, or as I said to you, 114 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I can come in and it will be a train wreck, 115 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: which no one wants, and that's going to make it 116 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: worse for you, me, everyone listening. You wouldn't want to 117 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: be on the radio yesterday. 118 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: So that's the first one. 119 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 2: Get someone to tell you that that this is going 120 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: on and you need to take the time. And again, 121 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: if it's not your partner, it might be your parents, 122 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: the person you sit next to, if you know it. 123 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: And I think I'm going to put this plan together. 124 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: People that are anxious or to prayer store, or you know, 125 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: have sort of crippling mental health conditions that force them 126 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: into a spot where they need to take a date, 127 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: whatever that is. I know there's all sorts of textures 128 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: of them. The next one is for me, and I 129 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: can do the other two really quickly. 130 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: Don't worry. First one. Put the war down, is what 131 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 3: I say to myself. Just stop trying to do things. 132 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: You're just not going to do it very well, and 133 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: you're going to do it badly, and you're gonna get 134 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: angry at yourself that you didn't do it right, and 135 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: then it's just going to get a lot worse. 136 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: So I'm not allowed to achieve anything, or do anything, 137 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: or even try and achieve anything. It's actually funny as well. 138 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: The first thing I did was I was like, well, 139 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: I finish writing this book on the weekend. So I 140 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I know what I'll do. I'll organize 141 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: my record collection. 142 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: I got halfway through, like and I nearly blew up, 143 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: and then I was like, damn it, damn it. 144 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: Damn it. I'm meant to put down the war, not 145 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: pick up another war. 146 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, so this ties in with number three, after 147 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: I've put down the war. 148 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, because I have a question there, because I 149 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it's easy to say put down the war, but 150 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: I sometimes I try to tell my pregnium partner to 151 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: put down the war when she's the different reasons why 152 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: she shouldn't be picking up the war, and that is 153 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: that she's physically struggling because six weeks pregnant. What do 154 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: you go and do then if you're not fighting the war, 155 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: because then you've got this like nothingness, and I know 156 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: that nothingness feeling can be really bad. 157 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: It's I'm not achieving anything, I'm not doing anything exact exactly, 158 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: what do you do? Great, So you've tied it straight 159 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: into the next one. So put down the war exactly. 160 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: And if I'm standing there and I go, well, what 161 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: the hell am I going to do it? 162 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: Myself? 163 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: I hate myself. I've got nothing else to do with 164 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: my idle hands. Idle hands are the devil's hands, which obviously, naturally, 165 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: if we're talking suicide, that can also be something that 166 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: you know is really important as well, that you need 167 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: to get in touch with someone, or in this instance 168 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: for me, it's get out of the house. Thirteen eleven fourteen, 169 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: by the way, is the lifeline number if anyone needs 170 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: to contact them and speak to them now. 171 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: But get get out of the house. Get out and 172 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: stay out, no matter how hard that is. 173 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: I remember when we were in Perth and I said 174 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: mental health as I'd be putting my runners on, like crying, 175 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: putting my runners on, being like, I just. 176 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: Need to get out of here. Yeah, it's so important. 177 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: It's so important to get out of the house. Because 178 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm away from the house, I can't pick up the 179 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: war in that instance, it's just me walking. 180 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Second of all, I can't you know, I can't hurt myself, 181 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: so you know that's the other thing. 182 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, okay, get out of the house. 183 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, get someone to tell you step one that what's 184 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: what's going on, or get someone to bow you out. 185 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Get someone close enough to you that you know can 186 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: give you the green card to have the day. Second, 187 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: put down the war. You're not going to be able 188 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: to do a normal day. Stop trying, get off your emails. 189 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: Just put down the war. And thirdly, as soon as 190 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: you put down the war, get the. 191 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: Hell out of the house. I went. 192 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I literally walked for like normally to for me, it 193 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: just mes walking. I walked for like ten k yesterday. 194 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all I did. It's not that impressive ten 195 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: k you were. I wasn't tried to know. It was 196 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: a mentally healthy It was a subtle buster. It was 197 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: a failed to boast. 198 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: Hear more of the boys on the full podcast just 199 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: scroll up.