Speaker 1: Have you ever looked at one of your coworkers, friends,
Speaker 1: or even family members and wondered if there was something
Speaker 1: they were keeping hidden from you. If only there was
Speaker 1: someone that talented, that hard working, that damn gorgeous you
Speaker 1: could do the work for you.
Speaker 2: Well there is. It's me, Artsimone.
Speaker 1: I'm uncovering the interesting jobs, hobbies and secrets seemingly normal
Speaker 1: people are keeping concealed. The catch is I don't know
Speaker 1: who was about to walk through the door or what
Speaker 1: they're hiding, but I'll use my amazing detective skills so
Speaker 1: we can uncover it together. Welcome to Concealed with Art Simone.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the guests, Oh, here they are, roll the tipe.
Speaker 3: Hi. My name is Steven. I'm a mechanical engineer. I
Speaker 3: moved to city eight years ago from the UK. I
Speaker 3: also work as a personal trainer, so I love my
Speaker 3: fitness mountain claiming running, and I also like listening to music.
Speaker 3: I don't think Art will be able to guess what
Speaker 3: I'm concealing today, because even though she may have seen
Speaker 3: me before, she probably wouldn't recognize me.
Speaker 2: Oh stumiand love me to meet you.
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, now you sit in front of your
Speaker 1: dress very nicely, very suave.
Speaker 2: Dare I say, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I say the same thing about you, thank.
Speaker 1: You, thank you. You've got this beautiful, nice shirt on.
Speaker 1: You've got a nice jumper draped around you shoulders. Dare
Speaker 1: I say a little bit preppy? Is it like preppy style?
Speaker 1: Is that what you call it?
Speaker 2: Would you call yourself preppy?
Speaker 3: I'm more of casual. I just call myself casual.
Speaker 1: Oh that's very dressed up in my books for me,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm not wearing drag, I mean like
Speaker 1: a T shirt and jeans. So you're very clean cut,
Speaker 1: you're well groomed.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: And you were like you're a big boy.
Speaker 1: A shirt is quite a tart around the biceptal area.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's actually what they're called, but I am.
Speaker 3: I am flattered. You've just lead me down with compliments.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's true though. I like what I see, darling. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you've said you're a mechanical engineer. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: smart as well? Or is that or is that a
Speaker 1: fancy term for something that's actually like easy? What does
Speaker 1: that involve? What do you engineer with the mechanics.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm capable of doing a lot of things, but
Speaker 3: now I'm currently focused in HVAC, which is heating, ventilation
Speaker 3: and air conditioning.
Speaker 2: Wow, well, are you responsible this studio being so bloody
Speaker 2: on at the moment?
Speaker 3: Well, if I can see, you're the one beginnew.
Speaker 2: Oh you picked it up just like I was hoping you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, definitely, sure you're you're the one genuary.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I look pretty.
Speaker 1: I sound like a monster, but I look pretty and
Speaker 1: I at least got that going for me. So you'd
Speaker 1: like to do lots of sporting activities as well?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm very athletic. I train a lot, exercise alte.
Speaker 1: Wow, So about this stage, Stephen, we have nothing in common,
Speaker 1: but that's okay. You could be the ying to my alright,
Speaker 1: because I like sitting down, I like staying indoors. Not
Speaker 1: very good with mechanics, you know, but you know, so
Speaker 1: you know, we could balance each other out in this
Speaker 1: afternoon in.
Speaker 3: Order to say opposite.
Speaker 2: The tracks exactly got the tension in the room today.
Speaker 2: It's just beautiful.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you three questions, and to
Speaker 1: the answers to those three questions, I have to somehow
Speaker 1: try and work out what you are contealing from me.
Speaker 2: Steven, all right, are you ready?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Question number one, who would you choose to play you
Speaker 1: in a film.
Speaker 2: You film about your life? Well, it could be any
Speaker 2: type of film.
Speaker 3: It would biopic. You read my mind exactly. I would
Speaker 3: choose someone who's athletic, build fit, strong, and is capable
Speaker 3: of handling tough situations.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone that would come to mind?
Speaker 3: Anyone in particular that?
Speaker 1: And I think Meryl Streep I've seen. I think she
Speaker 1: could play you quite well. I think she could play anyone.
Speaker 3: I think you know, I'll go for Oh, this is
Speaker 3: this amazing American actor. His name is Idris Albert.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is, but I'm sure that
Speaker 1: everything that you've said, and I can't wait to google
Speaker 1: them after this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I could do it now, but I don't.
Speaker 3: Will You'll be fascinated of what you've see?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay. Question number two, what is the
Speaker 2: last book you read?
Speaker 3: Double Star by Heineman.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking a different language at the moment,
Speaker 1: but a double Star.
Speaker 3: Double Star. It's titled Double Stars, so child, it's about
Speaker 3: the low down rundown actor. It's science fiction. But he's
Speaker 3: living on Mars, so he's contracted to act as someone else.
Speaker 3: And he's an actor on Mars. Yes, on Mars, so
Speaker 3: he plays the role quite great.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, all right, it sounds a bit trueman
Speaker 1: showish a book about a star Mars person who's acting. Okay, beautiful,
Speaker 1: And question number three, what is your most prized possession?
Speaker 3: My price possession will be my body?
Speaker 2: Your body. I was going to say, if the house
Speaker 2: is burning down, what do you grab first? Yourself? Myself?
Speaker 3: You got that right, You got that right?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you love yourself, beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: There was once a very tall drag queen that I
Speaker 1: was on a TV show with her. She said, if
Speaker 1: you can't love yourself, how you're gonna love anyone else?
Speaker 1: So okay, all right, let me read your cap all right,
Speaker 1: very intelligent, athletic. Someone to play you in a film
Speaker 1: is It's all okay, we're getting vibes of body fitness. Okay, reading,
Speaker 1: so it's good to know you can read. That's always
Speaker 1: a good team. I can read. People can't read books.
Speaker 1: I get bored sometimes. I like the ones of the
Speaker 1: pictures magazines too shiny, but they do make great paper
Speaker 1: mache because a lot too arts and crable.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, obviously I'm being led into a path
Speaker 1: something involving being fit and strong, but I like to
Speaker 1: keep it a bit kirky. So maybe you're like a
Speaker 1: former astronaut. Are you a former astronaut?
Speaker 3: Wrong? Even though I work as a mechanical engineer and
Speaker 3: a personal trainer, I'm also a stunt double and I've
Speaker 3: worked with the likes of Idris Albert on a recent
Speaker 3: movie called three Thousand Years of Longing. I'm also starred
Speaker 3: in a few upcoming movies.
Speaker 2: Ah, do you're like a Hollywood stunt double? You're like famous?
Speaker 3: Yes? What?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I stupid is not a former astronaut.
Speaker 1: He's something even more exciting. He's a stunt performer.
Speaker 2: What how does he jump off things? Does it hurt?
Speaker 3: You know? How?
Speaker 2: Is he breaking a bi And No? I don't know?
Speaker 2: And well I found out who Idris Elbow is.
Speaker 1: Please all right, so we're here was Steven And I've
Speaker 1: just found out that No, Steven, you were not an
Speaker 1: astronaut traveling all of the universe you're actually a Hollywood
Speaker 1: stunt double exactly. Oh my goodness. Okay, all right, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot that I need to know. First of all,
Speaker 1: how did you get into being a stun double?
Speaker 3: So in my case, I went to stunt school. I
Speaker 3: didn't complete it though, yeah.
Speaker 1: Mood, I went to ask school. I didn't finished to
Speaker 1: day either and look at me nails.
Speaker 3: And I predominantly learned a lot during the job. You
Speaker 3: get guys who've been in the industry way longer than
Speaker 3: you who would guide you through the called stunt coordinators. So,
Speaker 3: for example, in the job I did for Idris recently,
Speaker 3: I had to do a few diving courses. I had
Speaker 3: to learn how to breathe without a tank on the water.
Speaker 2: A better human men maid sorry, quite scary.
Speaker 3: Quite a long period of time. So you get all
Speaker 3: those skills and you get certified as you grow.
Speaker 1: Yes, So in the world of stunts, what is like
Speaker 1: the most mediocre thing that you could do, which is
Speaker 1: I don't know, standing in a doorframe versus like, what's
Speaker 1: the craziest thing you do? Because I feel like they
Speaker 1: need the stunt doubles for everything and anything, whether it's
Speaker 1: jumping off buildings, or sitting in the car.
Speaker 3: So the most basic thing will be jumping off of building,
Speaker 3: which is what you just said.
Speaker 2: It's like, yes, the most basic, boring thing. I don't
Speaker 2: just jump off buildings.
Speaker 3: Yes. So the way it works in the movie industry
Speaker 3: is that the safety control is immense. So tell you
Speaker 3: jump off a building. You strapped onto a harness, you're
Speaker 3: connected to a rig, and as an engineer, for me,
Speaker 3: it's simple calculation of this is safe, so my confidence
Speaker 3: level goes higher. So even without that, it is still risky,
Speaker 3: but the measures built in place are really really adequate.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you say that jumping off a building is
Speaker 1: the most basic thing you could do, how do we
Speaker 1: even get started with that? Like, were you just really
Speaker 1: good at the game The Flora's Lava and one day
Speaker 1: you went, you know what I reckon?
Speaker 2: I could jump off a building.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, jumping off buildings. Before you start doing that,
Speaker 3: you do some rehearsals, and the rehearsals is nothing like
Speaker 3: you actually jumping off a building. You're strapped onto a rig,
Speaker 3: but you're on the ground. So all you have to
Speaker 3: do is you're going to simulate the feeling of running
Speaker 3: and lifting yourself up and then the rig brings you
Speaker 3: down gradually. But what they're trying to look for, especially
Speaker 3: if it's an action movies, you're footing, what foot you
Speaker 3: use to lift yourself up, how you lift yourself up,
Speaker 3: because that will matter in your acceleration on the rig,
Speaker 3: how you dissent, your posture, and your landing. So yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a lot that goes into it. But I just
Speaker 3: said that because that is the most basic thing will
Speaker 3: get They will get anyone to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're actually doing it.
Speaker 1: Like, do you ever get grumpy when people get applauded
Speaker 1: for your stunts? Like you're in the movies and you're
Speaker 1: watching it together and it's like that was me. I'm
Speaker 1: just one jumping off the building. You're like, guys, come on.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that's. That's a very good question.
Speaker 3: In fact, I just got off the phone with an
Speaker 3: associate producer for a movie which I did, and it
Speaker 3: was quite unfortunate because I wasn't credited for that movie
Speaker 3: at all at all. Now they're they're they're in the
Speaker 3: walks of sod In and Out. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It's not anger. When someone doesn't tag me on Instagram, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, come on, I'm not there, but it's not the
Speaker 3: first time it's happened. Because some sometimes these actors they
Speaker 3: want the credit for that performance.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like having a ghost rider, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes it is. I'm signing.
Speaker 2: I'm signed nda is it saying like, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to go around and say.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I've signed a contract as a performer. That's stay.
Speaker 3: You will not disclose any information that you actually did
Speaker 3: this start work for mister such and so and so
Speaker 3: in this movie, and they pay you for it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you see to have much money. Yes, it's good money.
Speaker 1: Well everyone, I just want to let you know that
Speaker 1: I actually haven't been a stunt double for anyone, and
Speaker 1: I'm not being told to be silenced.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm lying. You'll never know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens. Some actors want that credit.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because you sometimes read articles like yeah, I
Speaker 1: did all the stunts myself, really proud of myself. I'm like, yeah, yeah, true,
Speaker 1: you're too valuable. Like if you mess yourself up a bit.
Speaker 3: Exactly like this, it's not realistic. Yeah, you get it scratched.
Speaker 3: I mean you can't work exactly. I've done things where
Speaker 3: I've done for they two takes on just the jump.
Speaker 2: How rigorous is it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How many times you have to keep doing things over
Speaker 2: and over and over again.
Speaker 3: It predominantly depends on the director. The most recent stuff
Speaker 3: I did, I got in there, I was strapped to
Speaker 3: the harness. I did my role, and I got it
Speaker 3: on the first take, like exactly. But you find out
Speaker 3: that really really good directors want it from every angle.
Speaker 3: They want to assume from every point of view. They
Speaker 3: might want you raising your hand this way, raising your
Speaker 3: hand that way. So you find out you do a
Speaker 3: minimum of, if the director is reasonable, forty two takes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, a minimum of.
Speaker 1: That kind of get at a bed in the morning
Speaker 1: sometimes like forty two times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh yeah, and that's what you're being paid for.
Speaker 3: And you can't complain. I mean, I don't complain. So
Speaker 3: you do it and you're in pain. Yeah, and they're
Speaker 3: constantly asking you are you good, and you're like, yeah.
Speaker 2: You got it. You're the first one to complain. They're like,
Speaker 2: out that did in lockstep staying with.
Speaker 3: Winging exactly, and yeah, I've done jumps where I did
Speaker 3: fifty takes and each time you jump down and a
Speaker 3: harness it springs you up. You do that one or
Speaker 3: two times and you're sore. Yeah, and you can imagine
Speaker 3: doing it for fifty two takes and when you're done
Speaker 3: the next day you're something else.
Speaker 1: It's like a meat puppet. It's the right sling shot.
Speaker 1: You hear and there and you have to go, thanks guys.
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is, you see, that's what you
Speaker 3: learn to appreciate the beauty of movies. I don't see
Speaker 3: movies the way people normal people see it.
Speaker 2: As soon as you work in television or anything.
Speaker 3: That one minute action scene that took a whole day
Speaker 3: of thirteen hours, I look at it as Wow, that's
Speaker 3: just thirteen hours gone like this in one minute.
Speaker 1: And for me, I get really distracted because I know
Speaker 1: lots about hair, makeup and wigs and costumes. So I'd
Speaker 1: be like watching Game of Thrones, I'm like, wig, wig,
Speaker 1: it's a week. And I'll be watching my friends and
Speaker 1: be like, we're ruining it, like it's a week. Look
Speaker 1: you can see the wig line. They're like, shut up,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get in the mood and like week.
Speaker 1: So you know, I totally get it. What is the
Speaker 1: most dangerous thing you've ever had to do. What's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing besides shopping up buildings? That's crazy to make
Speaker 1: you probably.
Speaker 3: Not personally jumping off a moving truck moving about sixty
Speaker 3: per hour onto another moving na.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you train with something like that? You
Speaker 1: get to go in and do a few runs before like.
Speaker 3: Okay, So those are these scenes where you will probably
Speaker 3: have to get on a first take or you add
Speaker 3: max you do for.
Speaker 1: Tax If you don't get on the best sect, you're
Speaker 1: on the grand he beIN run out of a back car.
Speaker 3: Back in the days, you would have these stump performers
Speaker 3: jump off a car and they're meant to do a
Speaker 3: jump while the car is moving and jump onto another platform,
Speaker 3: but they end up missing their footing and landing and
Speaker 3: smashing their leg and it actor goes like, all right.
Speaker 2: Get oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I guess like in this day nagic
Speaker 1: there's a lot more safety behind it.
Speaker 3: But yes, there's a lot more safety, but like I said,
Speaker 3: it all depends on the director, and it all depends
Speaker 3: on the availability of performers who look like the actor.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's like camera technology has gotten a lot better
Speaker 1: and HD exists. You have to kind of look a
Speaker 1: little bit more similar to the person.
Speaker 3: Yes, in terms of size and measures. There you have
Speaker 3: to be as close as possible.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to bulk up or shrink down
Speaker 1: to match someone more?
Speaker 3: Yes, I've had to bulk up. So I have to
Speaker 3: cut a few types of training, probably have to stop
Speaker 3: running for a while, start eating more.
Speaker 1: Stop running. I've actually been bulking this whole time. How
Speaker 1: did you get matched up with Idris?
Speaker 2: To be?
Speaker 3: Okay? So I got a call from a friend in
Speaker 3: the industry. She called me up to do some fittings work.
Speaker 3: So in a sense, I was just going to be
Speaker 3: a proper guy to size out his costume. And I
Speaker 3: did that, and then I met this beautiful lady called
Speaker 3: Kim Barrett. Beautiful, she's done jobs, like big jobs in Akoman,
Speaker 3: and she's designed heaps of stuff. And then she looks
Speaker 3: at me and she goes like, would you be interested
Speaker 3: in doing something for Idris? And I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: why not? That's why I went through And the directors
Speaker 3: loved me, and but it being better boom.
Speaker 2: And now have you done more than one film with
Speaker 2: for Adris?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, might we just get to travel with him?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I did I don't care if it's a rom com out.
Speaker 3: I did secretly make contact with him, and he's put
Speaker 3: me on a list of his future productions.
Speaker 2: And do you have competition? Has there have been other
Speaker 2: people that have been stunted performance for him? And yess yeah.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what he was being nice to me,
Speaker 3: but he says he loves me, and he.
Speaker 1: Probably looked at you said, yeah, it's not looking in
Speaker 1: the mirror. He said, yeah, I look just like that.
Speaker 3: He's a lovely guy. I've been around a few top celebrities,
Speaker 3: but he's by far demos humble love. Man.
Speaker 2: That's so good to hear, though, because you know you
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: To work with the No, you don't, you don't, well
Speaker 3: imagine being if the price is right. Yes, I really
Speaker 3: don't care.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, right man, I really don't care.
Speaker 3: Like I'm thinking about is money.
Speaker 2: Like a true hustler.
Speaker 3: I keep getting cameraman asking me, are you okay? You
Speaker 3: do you want to stop? I'm like, my coordinator just
Speaker 3: comes and says, we'll give you a bonus, a fantastic
Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I remember there's been some horred disking sometimes before and
Speaker 1: they're like, you stay an extra hour and probably I'm
Speaker 1: like smiling through my teeth and like, I'll give you
Speaker 1: some extra money. I'm like, yes, I love all of you.
Speaker 1: I'm already here. We keep going one another number.
Speaker 3: Let's go just calms.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Have motivation from money, don't nowhere it is.
Speaker 1: I think i'd be super strong too, and I could
Speaker 1: do stuff if they paid me enough money. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Strap me up. So have you had
Speaker 1: any injuries before?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just had an injury on my deltoid here.
Speaker 3: Beyond that, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I'll say that that's the worst thing that's happened to
Speaker 2: you a deli.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was really bad because I fell on
Speaker 3: my actual deltoid and my bone snapped off. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 1: So you guys just say, oh, injured my deltoid and
Speaker 1: then and I fell up be like oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: the bone snapped off, so.
Speaker 3: It popped out and I was I was like that
Speaker 3: for about three minutes. That was that was really excruciated.
Speaker 2: Did you get the shot though, yes, I did.
Speaker 3: You always get this shot. You get it shot in
Speaker 3: the first Like I said, you get a shot even
Speaker 3: if like when you're working, Yeah, the only reason you
Speaker 3: would stop is because the health safety officer says, So
Speaker 3: that's it. If not, man, then all it takes is
Speaker 3: just really remember the contract you signed, how much you're
Speaker 3: paying you and you knowing that you've already spent eight
Speaker 3: hours and one more hour adds an extra too grande
Speaker 3: your money.
Speaker 1: So you're like, we're on overtime at the moment. Have
Speaker 1: you been a stuntable for anyone else? Notable, coltiable, exciting?
Speaker 3: Yes, I have, actually, but I'm not allowed. Those are
Speaker 3: one of the Yeah, they're actually two people who I'm
Speaker 3: really really I'm really proud of girl Streep.
Speaker 2: I reckon right the right camerangles. You've got her shoulders.
Speaker 1: She's been holding the entire film community on her shoulders
Speaker 1: for so many years. They're just as big as yours now.
Speaker 1: She's so strong.
Speaker 2: Oh we love Meryl, Oh my days.
Speaker 3: Why do I feel like you have a crush on
Speaker 3: Meryl Street?
Speaker 1: Everyone does, ye, queen because Meryl Streeps? Who should play
Speaker 1: me in a biopic?
Speaker 3: A definitely don't.
Speaker 1: You'll probably dead by the time I get one, but
Speaker 1: I'll be like wheel are out come on flap the
Speaker 1: corps around. It will sep a lot better than I am.
Speaker 1: So true, you could paint the corpse and it still
Speaker 1: be the same. I got really dark, didn't it, Meryl Streep,
Speaker 1: don't die. Please Today I want to put your stunt
Speaker 1: performer skills to the test, because now you have to
Speaker 1: be my stunt performer for me today in the podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't do anything physical, so you will
Speaker 1: have to be performing performatively with your vocals and your expressions.
Speaker 3: Which is hard.
Speaker 1: So I want you to repeat after me. Okay, so
Speaker 1: my iconic lines. Yeah, okay, repeat after me.
Speaker 2: Here we go. Hello, I'm Art Simon.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Art Simone.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll work on that one. Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 1: I'm well known for saying, well, I'm not here to
Speaker 1: fuck spiders.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not here at fox s Vaders I was.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all right, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Last one, and this is my probably most notorious infamous
Speaker 1: thing that has come out of my mouth. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember saying it, but this video footage, unfortunately, and
Speaker 1: it goes to be like this.
Speaker 2: I need to take myself back to that moment.
Speaker 1: That means nothing, That means nothing, that was the best one. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's good because I don't want to have to say
Speaker 1: that line ever again.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna call you in.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, and you can relive my trauma for
Speaker 1: me instead of me doing it.
Speaker 2: We'll give you a bonus.
Speaker 3: It's okay, Yeah, that works for me. And that walks Frae.
Speaker 2: So Stephen is.
Speaker 1: Not an astronaut. Here's Idris Elbow. I just elbow woman
Speaker 1: Idris Elvis stuck. I don't know who that is, but
Speaker 1: the sun double for that person. And although it sounds
Speaker 1: like it's great at that, I don't.
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