WEBVTT - #137: Sean Szeps is Not Like Other Dads

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<v Speaker 1>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just really hosted by a couple of mitches. Hello, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>are you delese yourself for the rude shocks of young adults.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather be dead than be called gunkle, that nickname

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<v Speaker 3>for gay uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because I'm gay doesn't mean you need to change

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<v Speaker 2>the word.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if they were like God, he's put on weight

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<v Speaker 3>funkles here give a uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Mitchuri and Mitchell coos allah? Yeah, yeah, good to

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<v Speaker 2>be here.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I just I forgot to say hello,

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<v Speaker 3>a you well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your thing, and I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, how are you are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I love?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello? Stranger? Oh yeah, I hit people with that a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Stranger. Yeah, someone says calls me lovely, and I really

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<v Speaker 2>like it. Certain people can get away with things like

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Burne from The Bachelor. I host to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>with her. She calls me home.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I don't think you need to call

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<v Speaker 4>it from the Bachelor anymore. I actually forgot that she

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<v Speaker 4>was on the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, so I sort of think of the broader

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<v Speaker 2>stroke that people know here.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I tell you?

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I was at an event with Sean

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<v Speaker 4>and we were talking to Maddie Jay for Ages, Laura's husband.

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<v Speaker 3>They met on The.

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<v Speaker 4>Bachelor, they did, and we were chatting to matt from

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<v Speaker 4>Mattie Jay for Ages and then we left and Sean goes,

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<v Speaker 4>who was that? And I was like, that was Maddie j.

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<v Speaker 4>I googled a picture of him when he was the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, oh my god, he's just such a

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<v Speaker 4>normal guy in real life, because you know how on

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<v Speaker 4>The Bachelor that make them look really you know, yes, striking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's just so chill in real life.

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<v Speaker 2>Mattie Jay is you know what, why don't we get

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<v Speaker 2>Mattie Jay's a co host?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we better?

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<v Speaker 2>He is better. He's so he's actually such a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really funny, I know, very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're a hot couple anyway. Laura Burne calls me

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<v Speaker 2>honey all the time and she goes, hey, honey, you okay, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>great work today, honey, And I feel warm inside. But

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<v Speaker 2>I could never go hi, honey. It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you couldn't. I don't think you could get away

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<v Speaker 3>with hon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey han patronizing, patronizing. No, But why do some foods

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<v Speaker 2>get to be like words that you talk to someone about.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Nectron, how are you hello, honeyed you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>That is actually it has to be a sweet thing,

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<v Speaker 4>are you true? Like Harlaye sugar, I'm Marmalade sugar Tits.

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<v Speaker 2>My nan is just I always talk past tense. She's

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<v Speaker 2>alive and well. My nan calls people vinigartits if she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, that's when you're there, like a sour pull.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so good. She's like, oh, we'll go to the shed.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably call me vinicotits.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually she would. I used to do that podcast with

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<v Speaker 2>Vinegar Tits.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, speaking of Sean, not my Seawan. We

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<v Speaker 4>have a different Seawan coming onto the guests today.

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<v Speaker 2>Do Sean Zepps will be here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said his name. It's hard with the

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<v Speaker 3>list Sewan Zepps. Oh I did it? Try again, Seawan

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<v Speaker 3>Zepps because it's s z EPs. Very confuseding.

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<v Speaker 2>Seanps is a good see anyway. Sean Zepps is content creator,

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<v Speaker 2>his author, He's got a new book out, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is a He's a dad to two beautiful twins who

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<v Speaker 2>he had with his husband.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually adore him and It's it's kind of weird

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<v Speaker 4>because I've met Sean a million times. I was at

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<v Speaker 4>an event with him last night. Example, literally last night,

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<v Speaker 4>I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Delta Goodrum on her knees on the Crown Plaza. Stay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the Hilton, Oh the Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>She was doing a gig there, and it was so

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<v Speaker 4>small and intimate because it was just a corporate gig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, I could.

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<v Speaker 4>Pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars to be up close

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<v Speaker 4>to Delta, but here I am for free.

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually really tiny in real life, isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>She She's petite, She's very very finished. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now she had a great time had that gig last night.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, what I was saying was I've run into

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<v Speaker 4>Sean a million times. It's one of the few people

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<v Speaker 4>that I see at these events that I'm actually happy

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<v Speaker 4>to see them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, thank god, Sean's eepps is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Love him, But I don't actually know that much about him,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm quite excited to have him one today.

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<v Speaker 2>Sewan's like skyrocketed to fame. He posts a reel on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>a million views spiral. He's really got that parenting niche

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<v Speaker 2>down pat and he's a queer dad, so then he

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<v Speaker 2>gets all that target demo. He's yeah, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, here's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've never heard of him, give him a stalk

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram or just stick around. He's coming up later

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<v Speaker 4>in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of perfect for Marti grad too. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>Pride Month is almost what's really up, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, by the time this episode's out, yes, it's done.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm doing on Sunday, the day this

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<v Speaker 4>episode comes out, well, doing the bloody closing march over

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<v Speaker 4>the Harbor Bridge at eight am.

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<v Speaker 2>You're marching, I know, well, not actually marching. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you I didn't know that was a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always found it weird that people like say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're marching in the martig Graa parade. No one marches,

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<v Speaker 4>we slap drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Really very true. How insulting ten meters from the Anzac

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial to say we're marching when real soldiers did real

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<v Speaker 2>marching for much bigger issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, But you know, I'm doing the bridge walk thing

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<v Speaker 4>at eight am on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing? What do you mean? What's involved

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<v Speaker 2>with it? You walk from one side to the other.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know my Sean roped me into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just said, sure, I'll do that because weirdly, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't actually do much for Mardi Gras. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 4>home by midnight, which is so not like me. Remember

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe two years ago I came into this show.

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<v Speaker 4>We did the Marti Gras hangover episode and I was

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<v Speaker 4>still in my outfit, like I had two hours sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I went hard, But this year I was so boring.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I was very similar. I was at Frozen

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<v Speaker 2>Yogurt in Surrey Hills Yochi Frozen Yogurt at eleven forty

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<v Speaker 2>five Hayden, and I like, do you want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>this house party and go get frozen yogurt? Oh fucking yep.

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<v Speaker 2>He was blind drunk because I'm not really drinking at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. Yeah, and I'm just sitting there watching all

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<v Speaker 2>these gays in barely any clothing. It was beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my frozen yogurt with MOCHI was great.

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<v Speaker 4>See you were probably like me where you did thank

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<v Speaker 4>yourself the next day for not having a big night

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<v Speaker 4>on mar de Gras. But is there also a part

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<v Speaker 4>of you that has a little bit of fomo because

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh, well, Pride's basically over, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I took advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I'm going to go out this weekend

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<v Speaker 4>just so I can say I did something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we should talk about the opening ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at the opening ceremony, not together, but we

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<v Speaker 2>both saw Kylie and oh, how did you react to

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<v Speaker 2>Danny coming out on stage? Because Kylie Minogue opened Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>World Pride she brought her sister, Danny Minoguat in a surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Right, at the last minute, you would have shut yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was like, oh, I got it, Daddy.

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<v Speaker 4>But even though it's quite far away and Genoa Shawn's

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<v Speaker 4>sister the whole performance, thought it was Miley Cyrus, not

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<v Speaker 4>Danny Minoguew, not the same at all, because there was

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<v Speaker 4>rumors that Miley was in Sydney at the time and

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<v Speaker 4>that she might do a surprise performance, completely false, and

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<v Speaker 4>so when some woman with blondish hair came out, she thought,

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<v Speaker 4>and we were quite far away, she thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>Miley the whole time, and it was an amazing moment

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<v Speaker 4>when Danny came out as a surprise. But I watched

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<v Speaker 4>it sat like the actual televised performance, and I was like, gee,

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<v Speaker 4>Danny's trying so hard, isn't she?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Was she not a great vocalist?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, she was singing Kylie song.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course she's not going to be as good as

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<v Speaker 4>kind of an og in her own songs.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Minogue sisters a lot like Pizza always, they're consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so gorgeous though, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. In the matching they looked like gay

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<v Speaker 2>Luigi brothers, you know how, like red and green, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were in the pink and the blue. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so hot. I loved it. I had so much fun. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy motograph for those it aselves. Happy mortograph. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in town you're listening to this podcast. I ran

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<v Speaker 2>into a British idiot that listens to the pod that

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<v Speaker 2>was here. I mean, God, bless them. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>and you're in Australia, welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Just in case there's any new listeners. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't say idiots to be abusey. If our listeners

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<v Speaker 4>are called the idiots, they're our juring idiots.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our Facebook group. Oh wait, that's like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was asking you at the start, like what can

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<v Speaker 2>I say, honey or marmalade? Idiot? That's our idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason I have to clarifize because my friends Oscar

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<v Speaker 4>and Jordan came home from the Martogra after party and

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<v Speaker 4>they said, we ran into four idiots last night. And

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<v Speaker 4>it took me a sec to realize that they meant

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<v Speaker 4>our listeners, our listeners, rather than we counted four idiots.

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<v Speaker 3>We couldn't stand them.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just for dumb gay many. Well, if it is

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<v Speaker 2>your first time listening to the show, welcome to Is

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<v Speaker 2>it just me? Every week we start the show the

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<v Speaker 2>same way with two is just me? As we call

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<v Speaker 2>them igems. There's something we've noticed, something we hate or appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch doesn't know mine, I don't know mitches, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just we throw them around.

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<v Speaker 3>We have some fun. Do you know what's speaking of? Frozen? Oh? Fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Look is this turned up?

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<v Speaker 2>Come in? Price Keeper Jenna, our third wheel price keeper

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna is here?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you finished your Bloody Cat podcast downstairs?

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<v Speaker 2>What a conflict of interest? You're there today.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we've got a guest coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>I love how she doesn't even know who the guests

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<v Speaker 4>is No, you're really just going blind on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you love it?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're really taking your time to get on the

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<v Speaker 2>mic like it's an audio medium. Jenna? Is it? Even?

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<v Speaker 2>Once I saw her cat like eyes at the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna's eyes are reflect.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and we're just about to kick off.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, So where were you? I was recording my.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat for two Girls, three Cats we're.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking about, Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when cats go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, isn't that?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that just what they when they chitter at birds

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<v Speaker 3>and ship it's more of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Connie goes Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Connie might be insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Why what is that? What's the what's the reasoning

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to act like a bird.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then they're literally mimicking bird calls to try and

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<v Speaker 4>lure the birds into some sort of false sense of security.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Isabella, they're not going to fall for it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not going to look at my cat going and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, I'm regurgitate some food in my mouth piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Like birds. Aren't that stupid?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, aren't cats like the most evolved animal on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>You think after millions of years they would have finessed

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<v Speaker 2>the bird.

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<v Speaker 3>Tweet Mike, pretty good, she's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you record it? I want to hear it?

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<v Speaker 3>Recorded it?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me find Oh my god, I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>say that speaking of frozen yogurt. Yeah, my item kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ties in with that, so I might kick off

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<v Speaker 4>with that. I'll find the video of Isabella chittering first.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, find it. So it's called Jenna. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>technical term? Is it chittering?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I found that out after I posted it. I posted saying,

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<v Speaker 4>is my cat trying to mimic a bird call? And

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<v Speaker 4>everyone somehow ended up on cat talk. Everyone was telling

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<v Speaker 4>me all about it. Apparently it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you're like one fucking video then you get on

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<v Speaker 2>that tok.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the ready found out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is Isabella.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll back really far on my TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>She's literally mimicking their bird calls.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it kind of sounds like have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the footage of two turtles? Fucking?

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<v Speaker 3>What does that got to do with anything? But no,

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<v Speaker 3>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get it up now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, can I just do my take two seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same same sound as your cat is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, it'll be it'll be worth the payoff. God,

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<v Speaker 2>what an episode for Sean Shep's to be on.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Zep Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he on the show? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would have. You would know if you joined

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<v Speaker 2>the meeting that I had last night.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, you know when I did that that sound? Connie

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<v Speaker 6>now looks at me and.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinks you're a bird? Ye, not all their issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, turtles mating ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Oh it's finished.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, this is actually connected to my phone. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden our film r to grab bathrooms at the domain.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, okay, that's enough. Wow, I told you it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like someone trotting a dog. Toys you like

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<v Speaker 4>the squeak too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh I just had the memory. I went a

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<v Speaker 2>question com with Hayden and Camberrack and we played one

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<v Speaker 2>of those last weekend when oh, fuck you. You know

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<v Speaker 2>those toys that play with thunder and you like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a toilet roll and you turn upside down. I go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when like a baby's vomiting, like a toddler

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<v Speaker 2>is vomiting and they can't control their sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>When a bird's regurg to heating its food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, or Jenner, Yeah, all right, let's start the

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<v Speaker 2>show meet. Would you like to go first? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>The wood.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 7>Just me?

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<v Speaker 3>It's cookie dough, just the best flavor ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I did anything? Disagree completely? What do you mean? Hate

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<v Speaker 2>cookie dough?

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<v Speaker 3>The pack?

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<v Speaker 2>Hate it, eggy gummy, it's nothing now. I purposely avoid

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<v Speaker 2>it everywhere I go.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I ever go and get frozen yogurt, you

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<v Speaker 4>know how you can put the yogurt in the cup

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<v Speaker 4>and then you can do your little add ons and

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<v Speaker 4>weigh it at the end. Yeah, of course, the cookie

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<v Speaker 4>dough chunks to yogurt ratio was way off. I'd have

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<v Speaker 4>put a tiny dollar for a yogurt and then load

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<v Speaker 4>up on the fucking cookie do cubes they've got there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're barely going to get the frozen yogurt barely

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<v Speaker 2>because I just love cookie dough.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. It's the best flavor. And cookies and

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<v Speaker 4>cream apart from milkshakes. We all know my favorite milkshake

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<v Speaker 4>flavor is life, of course, but anything else like ice cream,

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<v Speaker 4>the cookie dough or cookies and cream absolutely beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the cookie dough is a soft The whole point

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<v Speaker 2>of it is it's a soft texture. It's enjoyable. If

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<v Speaker 2>you add it to ice cream or something cold frozen yogurt,

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<v Speaker 2>it breaks up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, if you don't like it, then you're not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna like the food I've brought in. Oh I've got

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<v Speaker 4>a new favorite snack.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, sackler. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've had to go to the Apple Shop a

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<v Speaker 4>lot recently because my phone's fucked. Yeah, and I had

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<v Speaker 4>like an hour and a half to kill before the

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<v Speaker 4>genius bar would see me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I was like, I'm i popp into Boosts Juice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been years since I've gone to Boosts Juice.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've got these protein balls that are cookies and cream.

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<v Speaker 4>Holy fuck, they are all gasmic. And so when the

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<v Speaker 4>Apple Store told me, sorry, we can't fit you when

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<v Speaker 4>you have to come back tomorrow, I wasn't even mad

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, great, I can get another protein

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<v Speaker 4>ball and I have to go back to pick up

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<v Speaker 4>my replacement phones.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So did you bring some here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I brought some in for you is if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to try, and I'd love to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just just slamming. Oh. They are white chalk or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, they're white chocolate ones are also amazing. I am

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<v Speaker 4>a slut for bootstuice protein ball. There's something about the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they're protein balls, and I'm like, oh, well

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<v Speaker 4>they're healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Then hold on, they're really quite soft. Yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite pale, it's quite white. Look, it actually does

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<v Speaker 2>just look like a ball of cookie dough. Go to try. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. Are they protein?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, protein balls? Whatever that is. I could have four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred of these. I'd feel very ill.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, that's delicious. Isn't it a lot? So much?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they've literally just rolled up cookie dough.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why they've caught it cookies and cream

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<v Speaker 4>flavor because it's clearly cookie dough.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going to are you getting a juice with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it just the boost ball? Yeah, I'll get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get a pure eaten to go with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a banana bus boy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same shopping center that we used to go

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<v Speaker 4>on out lunch breaks, dinner. Oh really, yep? Maybe how

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<v Speaker 4>we go to Schnitz almost every day? Yes, and get

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<v Speaker 4>a Schnitz rap. And then I wonder why I was

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<v Speaker 4>putting on weight, because I've got one of those people

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<v Speaker 4>that's like, oh, if it's a rap, it must be healthy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>schnitz raps, they're very fattening, same as me.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the MACS rap and then I saw one

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok that was like the MACS wrap is two big

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<v Speaker 2>MAXs from mcdarnott's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck, that are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they tossed their salad in sugar water.

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<v Speaker 3>That wouldn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is delicious, told you, Oh my god, It's given

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<v Speaker 2>me like a new lease on life.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm back in my boosts here right now,

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<v Speaker 3>going back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you getting paid for this fucking shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Nuh, I'm just I'm feeling charitable today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just giving him a shout out for free. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not even being paid to influence you.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenna and I like giving these rave reviews and me

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<v Speaker 2>is probably getting ten grand put it into his bank.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually not talking about I love these fucking cookies

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<v Speaker 4>and cream protein balls. Also, do you remember the KFC

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<v Speaker 4>cookies and cream crushes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Beautiful, really nice?

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<v Speaker 3>They need to bring the crushes back. What happened to

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<v Speaker 3>that they got rid.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the crushes, but some have the crushes signage still

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<v Speaker 2>and you drive up and they're like, now, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had crushes mate, since you was in power. You go,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, now it's been a while, haven't it all right?

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<v Speaker 2>We're ready for my age.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it just me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel that the foot air con functioning cars

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<v Speaker 2>gets a bad rap?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's giving it a bad rap?

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<v Speaker 2>No one uses it. I'm gonna use it.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm transporting like food or ingredients, I'll whack it on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that stuff on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's genius. Add that to the list. Guys, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be you never thought of that. No. I hold

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<v Speaker 2>it at my tip breast level, at the same height

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<v Speaker 2>as the front facing air con. If I've got like

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<v Speaker 2>a trifle on Christmas Day that I need to keep cold,

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<v Speaker 2>so the jelly melton, I hold it, I get Hayden

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<v Speaker 2>to hold it in front of the econ. I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it on the way here because they got

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<v Speaker 4>you've got all coffee. I got your life coffee. So

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<v Speaker 4>I whacked them on the floor and then put the

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<v Speaker 4>floor acor on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an it. We're moving at the moment and Hayden

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<v Speaker 2>and I put boxes in the back of the car,

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<v Speaker 2>and they came all the way to the front, through

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<v Speaker 2>the boot, right through the middle seeds, and they knocked

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<v Speaker 2>the air con and bumped it onto the foot mode.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there driving and I'm going, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>full three sixty coolners where normally I'm quite cool from

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<v Speaker 2>the navel up, and so much so that like I

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<v Speaker 2>get a bit frosty around, like the extremities, like my

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<v Speaker 2>fingers get cold on my eyebrows and my tip of

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<v Speaker 2>my nose. But I was absolutely blessed out and I went,

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<v Speaker 2>what has changed? And the foot mode, Oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what it does. It actually makes the

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<v Speaker 2>front mode a bit more subtle because if it's just

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<v Speaker 2>on the fuck it's riding up and where the air goes. Oh, Gena,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you don't drive, you don't understand. But a

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<v Speaker 2>car is it's an item that transmitted to passenger.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohen would you turn on foot mode?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't have control over.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have footmode and your horse dooring carts back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day?

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<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately no, no, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Had horse mode.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, you're listening to is it just me?

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<v Speaker 1>Got something on your mind, hit up at a couple

0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of Mitch's on Instagram to get yourself on the shoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is time. Is it just you? Mitch and

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<v Speaker 2>I've had our say. Now it's time for you to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the show. You can dms at couple of

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<v Speaker 2>Mitches or Mitch. You can send us a text.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I reckon, I've let the number off a hard gay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah yeah, oh four one two seven one two

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<v Speaker 4>oh nine two let me checked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got it right, he's done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's that text line.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, if you're going to send us a text,

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<v Speaker 4>pop your name in there too.

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<v Speaker 3>These text are from.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to get that sim cut off you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we havn't tech troubles some un called Crazy John.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when he died Crazy John.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know you're talking about something.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember remember there was like Telstra, three, Optus and then

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy John.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and there were phone stores.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a network. It was Crazy John and

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<v Speaker 2>the logo was like knock you are fourteen that price

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<v Speaker 2>crazy Crazy John.

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<v Speaker 3>And they got my first ever phone there.

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<v Speaker 2>I did two and then he died.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know he died.

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<v Speaker 4>But the brand or the actual person, Crazy John. That

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<v Speaker 4>was his Christian name, wasn't it. I'm going to call

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<v Speaker 4>him crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>He passed away anyway, so resting peace, Crazy John, and hello,

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<v Speaker 2>now welcome to the show. She's in Sydney, he love.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get up too much for Mardi Gras?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually do you know what homophobic is?

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<v Speaker 1>Me?

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<v Speaker 5>But I have family staying so I was unable to

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<v Speaker 5>go out and celebrate.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, there's so many there's so many international visitors and

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<v Speaker 4>it's super busy this year. So I'm just like, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>let them have it. I'm not going to compete in

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<v Speaker 4>the queues and the crowds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's their year, not mine.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm with you at home, put my feet up.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeaeah much. I did go and see progress Shark, though,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see progress? I see that all the time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drive past it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yea progress the Medaldoon. It's out in the front of

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<v Speaker 2>a museum in Sydney and they put Pride flag on

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<v Speaker 2>it for one night and then it went viral because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny if you don't know what progress Shark is.

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<v Speaker 4>They've now got an Instagram account. Do they just photoshop

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<v Speaker 4>this shark with a rainbow want it to anywhere they do.

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<v Speaker 2>But also during Kylie, there was a you know how

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is to do drones.

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<v Speaker 3>A drone show.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a drone show and progress Shark.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe how much of a meme misprogressed Shark

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<v Speaker 4>has become. You have to go look at their Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>progress dot Shark. I've just found it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Imagine being an international traveler being like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>really immerse myself in Australian culture and there's a great

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<v Speaker 2>white shark with a pride flag made of drones above.

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<v Speaker 4>You imagine the meeting at the museum being like, what

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<v Speaker 4>can we do to show that we support the gays?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, just whack a rainbow fucking flag on that shark

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<v Speaker 3>out the front.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, cool, All right? Are you ready for your

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<v Speaker 2>is it just you mail? Jump in?

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<v Speaker 5>I am so ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, jump in, Bradley. Is it just me?

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<v Speaker 5>Our birthdays really fucking embarrassing?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to dread my birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>I just feel like also, can I just say this

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<v Speaker 5>is not birthday specific, but the morning of my birthday

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<v Speaker 5>walking to work a Stepton dogshit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dear, wait, when was your birthday?

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<v Speaker 5>My birthday was last Monday, so this is why it's

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<v Speaker 5>fresh trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, happy birthd I know what you mean. When something

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<v Speaker 2>happens on your birthday. It's like of old days.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my day, my day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. But well I kind of agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>As I get older, they get a bit cringier.

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<v Speaker 5>They do. And it's like, I work in an office

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<v Speaker 5>full of girls. Obviously they like just quill. So you

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<v Speaker 5>walk in first thing in the morning. People are squealing

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<v Speaker 5>at you and I'm like, it's not even nine am.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't need this.

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<v Speaker 3>But then not embarrassing at least they remembered now to

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<v Speaker 3>take that true.

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<v Speaker 5>But then but then you're having a conversation with someone

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<v Speaker 5>in the kitchen, right they don't know what's your birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone else is happy to birthday to you. Then it's

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<v Speaker 5>embarrassing for the other person. I love you, memrasing embarrassing

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<v Speaker 5>thing all round. I think, because I'm old now, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not thriving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not thriving that you need to take this into

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<v Speaker 2>your own hands and celebrate it. I live for the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>I live for the attention.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I shouldn't ask a lady their age. But

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<v Speaker 4>how old are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty one, Okay, so you're at the point where you're

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<v Speaker 4>just like whatever, it's just another day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just another day for me. Don'te on me on

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<v Speaker 5>days that I'm not embarrassed by.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I can't get around birthday sex because

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<v Speaker 2>your birthday is so exat I want pre birthday or

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<v Speaker 2>both birthday, post birthday. Six. I don't want sex on

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday. I want to open my presents. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to relax, I want to eat cake, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat dinner. I want to stay out late. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice little gift to know that I'm getting it tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's a yeah birthday? Yes, I agree?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. What do you meet to you and show

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<v Speaker 2>on fucking every day? So do you want of those

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<v Speaker 2>new cames.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never had birthday sex.

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<v Speaker 2>You're kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because I'd only been thanking Sean for not even

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<v Speaker 4>a month at that point. It was a bit too

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<v Speaker 4>than to be spending my actual birthday with him.

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<v Speaker 2>True, although your last birthday didn't, that was a rough

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<v Speaker 2>day considering everything that happened here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it wasn't great. It wasn't embarrassing for me. Mail,

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<v Speaker 4>let me tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You more mortifying, But we don't touch on that. Well, Mel,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that, I will say though, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're an only fans creator, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What? But on your father there's a chili and

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<v Speaker 2>then a link next to it that means click this

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<v Speaker 2>link for the hot content. Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, babe, is there a link? Have I been hacked?

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<v Speaker 2>So if you go to your profile, it goes mail

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<v Speaker 2>with a chili, which is the which is the emoji

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<v Speaker 2>underground language for I'm an only fans creator.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You know that follow a couple only fans?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you telling me you believe that? And I could

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<v Speaker 5>be making some cash?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Mel's pro Is that your boyfriend, the one

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like Simba if he was a human?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you not watch Mail and Cimber? Fuck? Look at them?

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<v Speaker 6>All?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's something for thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to if I wouldn't sign up to

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<v Speaker 3>watch your only fans. But I'm looking at you. You're

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<v Speaker 3>a gorgeous couple.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, there's potential there, but you know when I'm

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<v Speaker 4>obviously not pressuring you, just starting only have.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotten it wrong? I thought the chili meant that

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<v Speaker 2>you were an Only Fans creator.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I haven't heard that either. But now I'm triggered,

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<v Speaker 5>and I feel like they need to change up.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it, keep it. I just assumed, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>four pages of questions about what it's like to be

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<v Speaker 2>an Only Fans creator. I've prepped for the wrong interview.

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<v Speaker 5>Why did I sign up? And I can come back

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<v Speaker 5>on and tell you, yeah, good call.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, Well, don't be embarrassed about your birthday. This isn't

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<v Speaker 4>shade at Mitch and Jenner, but I think it's actually sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>If people are going to an effort and they've actually remembered.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's nice. It's better than the alternative where

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<v Speaker 4>no one embarrasses you, which means they don't give you

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<v Speaker 4>any attention on your big day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's nice.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true, that's true, Thanks true. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you deserve to be dated on and spoiled.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Happy birthday for last month, Happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you very much, guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, don't forget to hit up price kip it Jenna

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<v Speaker 4>on our Instagram at a couple of mitches.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll send you a little prize for coming on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, amazing, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, no worries.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you. What a cutie.

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I just got the notification he's in the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, guests, yeah, we have time for that beautifully

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<v Speaker 3>all right. Pause, we're going to bring Sean in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. You may follow our next guest on social media

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<v Speaker 2>at Sean's zips. You may have seen their reels accumulating

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>millions of views. World domination is in sight for Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Zev's is here now in the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>But you like cookies and cream? Protein ball there my

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 4>new favorite snack. I bought a few in today, Yes

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I'm not even being paid for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that Sean he's being paid. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm wearing workout gear right now, so I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a protein ball like totally aligns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I agree. Eat the protein ball. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I really like it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Right? Are they running? It's really good? Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about your book? You books coming out Not Like Other

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<v Speaker 2>Dads June seventh. That's his first book.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I'm talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>Exclusive, We didn't break in bargo or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You're good. I saw the cover cover reveal everyone on

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<v Speaker 2>Sean's Instagram. Beautiful, thank you, it's really very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I was really really excited. I've been holding

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it in for a long time. We announced it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>When is the show coming out? We can't it a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago. Yeah, it's called Not Like Other Dads.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a memoir. They approached me about a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half ago and said, hey, no gay parent has

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<v Speaker 1>written a story of the journey from starting to finish

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. Would you like to be that person

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<v Speaker 1>before someone else does it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>My ego said yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm going to ask you this now, because I

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<v Speaker 4>always forget to ask our guests this sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get it out of the way.

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<v Speaker 4>First thing, we have a list of things better than

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<v Speaker 4>drugs and dick that we ask all of our guests

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<v Speaker 4>to contribute to because we just don't want any young

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 4>listeners of ours getting caught up in partying and boys

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<v Speaker 4>and you know that's not the be all and end

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<v Speaker 4>all of life that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can if you're doing it, go for gold. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are there are things success. No, yes, good, very well said.

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<v Speaker 4>A little thing in life that you appreciate. Race Nicholson said,

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<v Speaker 4>weighted anxiety, blankets and a skincare routine. Tony Lodge said

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<v Speaker 4>really good melted cheese. Yeah, that can be in Anaconda said.

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<v Speaker 4>The Wizard of Oz is better than drugs and Dick.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a favorite movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, very cool for a drag queen. That seems perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 7>I have three, all right, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's ever done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Driving over the Brooklyn Bridge heading into Manhattan always feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a movie moment. I always get chills, I always

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<v Speaker 1>get emotional. I did live there for a decade, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's heightened. But just the first time, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought every major movie, all the songs, all the love

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<v Speaker 1>like this is. I'm a part of this every time

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<v Speaker 1>it happens, no matter how many years have passed, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is must be what heaven feels like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, I know it's not quite the same, but

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<v Speaker 4>I do get a little pinch myself. Whenever I'm driving

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<v Speaker 4>over the Harbor Bridge, I'm like, I look a little

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<v Speaker 4>farm boy here, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get heart palpitations. There's that one line on

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<v Speaker 2>the Harbor Bridge. If you're going north and there's no

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>medium strip in the middle, it's unacceptable. Yeah.

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I easily clip your mirrors with the oncoming traffic.

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Head on, even rolling the dice every time you get

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>told as well, you're paying to die. It is the

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>scariest road in Australoy. So not the same.

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 3>But that's number one. What's number two? You've got three?

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>My secret single behavior? Anyone know what that is? Like

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Sex and the City. Did you ever watch Sex in

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the City.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Kerrie Brocha has this thing called like her secret single behavior,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.239
<v Speaker 1>which is the thing you do maybe after you get

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>out of relationships or when you're single, that you just

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>do when you're by yourself and you're alone, and it's

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>your one thing that no one really knows about. Well,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm married, I can just say that mine

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was getting home stripping down to my underwear. Yeah h

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>we're going to skip the drug part because you said

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it's better than drugs, right, Yeah, and watching reruns of

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Sex and the City in my underwear while ordering Chinese

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>food and eating Chinese food. So it's the Chinese food

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in my underwear while watching Sex and the City, and

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I will do it for four or five hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh blease.

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so good. And I know that the third

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>one is technically in the category, but rimming, Okay, that's

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>not that's not I.

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Thought you're right on a technicality. That's not drugs.

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise side, Yeah, do you want to talk about my

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>kids now.

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Haven't you?

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about this.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Why you are?

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it could cause some drama, specifically in the

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>communities in which we weighed. Oh, I'm excited, okay, but

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking a lot about it.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Finish the sentence, Bradley, You'll take you in. Is it

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>just me?

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Is pride no longer fun?

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this just before.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 4>We were kind of like we didn't really get amongst

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 4>it this year because partly I'm like, you've been to one,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 4>you've been to them all, But also there were so

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 4>many visitors that I was like, I'll just let them

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 4>have this year. I can't be bothered competing with the

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 4>crowds and everything. It's there, You're not mine. Yeah, So

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really get amongst it this year.

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 2>We were both in bed by midnight. It was so

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming more than anything, What was your experience?

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 3>What's your hot take?

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I think if you take the entire month and on

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>average you communicate with as many queer humans and allies

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>as possible about their overall experience, my inference is it's

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like no longer actually about what pride is meant for.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Like we're not connecting with each other, fighting the good fight,

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>celebrating how far we've come. It's become how many parties

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>can you go to, how many brand deals can you get?

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And when you're at those actual parties or working an event,

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I constantly walk away and go what happened at that party?

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is coming from someone who works like you

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in this content creation space, right, I make a living

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>off of partnering with brands. But when you leave these

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>events and you go we ate really good food and

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>drink really good alcohol. But what was it for? There

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>are great brands. Yeah, Mitch and I were at a

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>party last night raising money for Misateen to help young

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>people so they can go to queer foremost. That's great. Yeah,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you walk away and you know what that was for? Yeah,

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that is actually making the world a better place year round,

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them are just let's get drunk.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 4>A lot of them feel like just the brand or

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the venue or whatever it might be, just going say

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 4>we love guys, we threw a party for you. You

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 4>get what you get done complying.

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And when I, like five or six years ago, when

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I went for the first time, the overall experience, after

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the time was over, was I connected with

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>other queer people. I felt safe in environments. I was

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by people like me. And now I get the

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>overall sense that it really is about how many can

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you go to are you are you wearing the right outfits?

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you get making the money? Yeah?

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And that feels disappointing. I was like, this year didn't

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>feel amazing. To be honest, I'm a bit worried that.

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 4>You're going to start bailing on events because you're taking

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 4>a stand. Because I was saying just before you arrive,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, he's one of the few

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 4>people that I'm actually happy to see. When I got

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 4>to a fire, we were saying how good you are? Yeah,

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 4>and my Seawan, who exact same spelling as your name

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 4>and everything, we're saying the same.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 3>He goes, oh, he's one of my favorites.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>We are running it a long sean and I, yeah.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Isn't he cute?

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>We have a podcast called The two Sean.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I do think for so long queers wanted an opportunity.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>We wanted a seat at the table, We wanted the

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>party's throne for us. We were sick of like being ostracized.

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Then we get the opportunities and now here I am

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>intellectual queer coming in and like critiquing the it Overall,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I'm gonna get my coin. Yeah,

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>like you as a content creator, as an adult, we

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to make a decision for ourselves.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>So what do we do? The problem is what do

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>we do? Because it's so hard as well, because then

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>if we come out or if the hits he these,

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>they'll go, well, look we look what we've given them,

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Look what they've got win. Yeah, exactly, how do you wean?

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>It's tough.

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I honestly asked myself that a lot, But over the

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>course of the last couple of days, I've been thinking

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>about it more. I think every person next year should say,

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>what do I want to feel at the end of this.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Do I want to feel more connected to queer people?

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Do I want to go out with my friends and

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>experience the euphoria feeling safe on a dance floor? Do

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I want my straight friends to experience what it's like

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to be queer? Do I want my family like? Ask

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>yourself that before and then chase that because everything I

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>just said is what I wanted, and now it's over

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>or almost over.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 3>To you take off.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>You didn't get any of those, babe. You made money.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>You got to show a lot of people from content

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>who might not know about your family what queer families

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>are like. But I didn't dance on the dance floor

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>with my friends. I didn't bring my family or allies

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>out and let them experience.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It because you had to get time to the bloody keys.

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean exactly, you got shit to do. You got

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>ads to create. So I just think if we all

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>did that, then you can still do the ads. You

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can still go to the branded parties as long as

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you're balancing it out, because I just feel that a

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>majority of my friends you included, are leaving going it's over.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>We can do.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a little shoulder dropped. That was hard. That

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was intense. I agree, Mark. The most rewarding Pride I

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>ever had was when I we did You and I

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>both worked at Kiss and we did the parade on

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the Kiss floweous and I got like a plus one

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and they can walk in the parade, and you go, shit,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>who am I going to ask? And my little baby

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>sister four years under me, had never been to Pride,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>never been to a Mardi Gras, and the whole concept

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>was new to her. I'm probably one of three gay

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>people she knows. We love each other sick. And she

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>walked in the parade with me, and to this day

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it is the highlight of her, one of the highlights

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>of her life being in Pride, seeing me being comfortable

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 2>being celebrated like she talks about it to this day,

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and that is what That's my favorite Pride memory of

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>all time. You're so right.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to take my mum one year. I reckon

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 3>how much Jane would be in irrelevent.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>My mum would love. Why don't we do our Oh?

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, parents.

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Flow Michelle and Jane, Oh my god, Yeah, is there

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>actually fuck? Yeah?

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they're always parents.

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, let's make it happen. Michelle would love it,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Mama die.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and we'll take him next year when it's

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 4>less busy. We don't want to overwhelm them.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a lot. It was nice having it

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>back on Oxford Street, and it was what the fiftieth

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>year anniversary, we had a lot of winds. Fifty year

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>anniversary of Pride. It was the first we had the

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>first sitting Prime minister.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about Oh yeah, holy shit. That felt

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>good to watch him, to hear him say this is

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>my thirty fifth year walking and his outfit embarrassing, shocking,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, come on, step it up.

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see that democracy sausage in full fucking

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>swinging right out of the front. I wanted to see it.

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't both did they see that?

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 4>He responded to the fact that he was dressed completely plain.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 4>He didn't, you know, get all camped for Mardi Gras.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>His response was, Oh, I think that Marty Grass about

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 4>celebrating exactly who you are and I'm just a dag

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 4>he like from Marrickville and the rest as one.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what he said.

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, irol But also, yeah, there are a lot

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of gays at home are like that's how I dress.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that. There was criticism of like it's

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>so performative, and he was like, I've been for thirty

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>five years, thirty five there is evidence. It's not like,

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm probably gonna be PM one day.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's start going in that last five years thirty five years?

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>How many presidents and prime ministers in any country at all?

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Bernie Sanders and is like he was marching with

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King. Other than that, I cannot think of

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>another example of someone who's fighting a good fight and

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>all the way back in the day actually believed in

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that fight.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I know it wasn't cool.

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Thirty five years ago to be supporting our asses. No, no,

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>away what I was thinking. And I don't know if

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys have friends like this, but there are a

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>chunk of our community who are not club kids, who

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't like the glitter, who don't want who don't have

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>like insane fashion sense. Yeah, none of that is for them,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and pride alienates that group of the case.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 6>It's interesting that you bring that up because one of

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 6>the guys that I work with, he I asked him

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 6>what he was doing for Mardi Gras, and he said

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 6>that he's not a fan of dressing up, of going out.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 6>He'd rather stay in. So he felt a bit alienated

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.439
<v Speaker 6>from it, and it was a different perspective. I'd never

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 6>really heard it.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>That not talked about. My husband has talked about this publicly.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>When he was a kid and he turned on TV

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and watched the Pride Parade on the ABC before he

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>came out, he thought, that's gay. Yeah, that's what I

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>have to be. That's what it's going to look like.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>And so he thought, I guess there's not going to

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>be a spot for me. That's not for me. And

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the club space it's for a certain type

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of queer person.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but if.

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>You're not that. Turning on TV, I don't know. I

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>saw the Prime Minister, I thought maybe there's a couple

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of people going Actually there is a spot for me.

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can just wear my button down. I'm

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>never not going to wear a button down and I

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>could be accepted there that I'd like to see that

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>featured more.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of non clubbing guys, you know that chick on TikTok,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 4>her name's dye. Her handle is like not an euphemism

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>or something. You know, this chick fifty three year old.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's be in yep. Oh yes, yes, you know if

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you see your face.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 4>She put a message in this group chat we have

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 4>from last year's TikTok float and it said.

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Hi everyone, just to let you know. I started a

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 3>group called Sydney Quiet Queers. The drug of choice is teeth.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you like more details.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like that sounds gorgeous. It's a Facebook group

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>called like Sydney Quiet Quick. It's just a bit of

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 4>shu shin, a cup of tea in the park, book

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 4>clubs and stuff for that's seven hundred and eighty five

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 4>members in Sydney Quiet Queers.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I just looked it up.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it might blow up after this.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounds like it's going to be quiet packed. Actually

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 4>this quite queer is made up. It's going to be

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 4>fucking roundy.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd go, well, I mean I can feel like I

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 2>can relate to you a little Sean because your partner Josh,

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>he's in media right, and you have I mean, I

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, how would you describe it? You have different

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>outlooks on your queerness or yeah, I mean you can

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>speak to that.

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I get off on a label. I feel like my

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>whole life, I was searching for who I was and

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>so when I found gay, I was like, that's me.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>I want that. I felt like I was a part

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of a community. Josh doesn't even believe in them, doesn't

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>have one. You can't give them one. There's no box

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna that. Not having a label makes him feel

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you for it. Having one makes me feel you for

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's one box, Quely.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're into rimming. He was too? Is it

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 2>just me?

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You can follow the show online.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Just search a couple of miches.

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>If you don't, you're a tickhead.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Sean Debbs is here. Everybody you can get you on

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Instagram at Sean Zepp's his reels are They're fantastic. And

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 2>you've got you really narrowed down your target market. I

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>mean your instabio I noticed is what you've changed it to?

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Delf The Delf.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Delf Dad I like to follow. It's all

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about parenting now.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Truly, And I mean you've obviously identified that because you've

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>got two kids and you're like, fucking I'm Malini.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of messages from women saying I

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>would never follow a father like it doesn't make sense

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to my life. But you're the dad I would follow.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh there's something clever.

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You're funny. Good call.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Actually, this is gonna sound a bit ware because by

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 4>note threats, did you have kids for the content? But god,

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 4>it must make your life easy. You'd be able to

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 4>reap so much content out of having kids.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so true. They're not in the content anymore.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll notice that they're very rarely featured because

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>they stopped wanting to be and you got to respect

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that consent.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, let's talk about how the baby's happened, because it

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>was a surrogacy journey. And I think I definitely want kids.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 4>It's something that you're wanting to pick its brain about

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 4>because it's kind of something you're thinking about.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really really really want kids, really really Oh

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that's great, it's not I don't I truly don't think

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>it'll happen in the next ten years. I think it

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>will be in the next ten years, but I want

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>a good ten years of career in life.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, but I'm not saying I don't want kids.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 4>But it's not really on my radar yet. But I'm

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 4>very curious to hear about the story. Yeah, I mean,

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't want you to give away too much. It's

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 4>all in the book, right, not like other dads.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for that plug. Here's the ten dollars.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But you guys really are content creators. The boost juice

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>mentioned the book plugs fucking male. What's in the book?

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about what you can get the book.

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I think what will excite people most is I do

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>my entire life from start to finish, so kind of childhood,

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>growing up in a religious church, growing up in that environment,

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the closet, meeting my husband in New

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>York City, the entire surrogacy journey, that whole process, then

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>moving to Australia, and the transition to becoming a parent

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>in a country that you're not from. It's definitely like traumatic,

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>traumatic lows and very Euphoorichais the whole story, and it's

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>very very very gay. Oh.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that very us tell us about the sarrogacy

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 2>journey from the start because we have a lot of

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 2>young Qui listeners. Good and I just think this is

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.479
<v Speaker 2>so interesting because you don't hear about it in this country,

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>right because sergucy.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Is legal, Yeah, you can do it. It is legal,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you just can't do it for compensation, which means you

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>have to on your own find someone who's willing to

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>do it. Sergacy Australia is a company that does exist

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and can help you find women in this country fifty

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 1>percent gay men and of those fifty percent a large

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>chunk or just finding a friend. But yeah, compensation will

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get you in jail for or three years in Queensland,

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>two years in New South Wales and one year in

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 4>And the reason that commercial surrogacy is illegal, it's the

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 4>reason because it could become a bit icky. People might

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 4>start opening agencies and then people who were desperate for

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 4>money it might harm their body, et cetera.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Is it just stuff like that?

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean to be honest. The only country where

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it was legal at the time was the States. But

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>there's also a really interesting like womb law that's like

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a carrier law around people potentially abusing that. So forcing

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 1>women to do it, women raising their hand and saying

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I would like to do this, and I deserve compensation

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>because I have to step away from work, new clothes,

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the food, the transportation to and from the hospital, all

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of that. I felt just for the risks she was

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>putting to her body. She deserved money. But yeah, that's

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>why it's illegal here.

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 4>I'd almost feel bad for not paying. But then it's

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 4>also like, oh sorry, babes, it's a legal I can't

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 4>pay you. Oh no, get some saving money in that way.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So do you mind me asking? Because you've got two

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 2>beautiful tos and you chose that, right, you chose the tweens.

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I think we've discussed it. I mean we've been friends

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 2>for a while. Yeah, we've dicussed how it actually happened.

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>But you chose to have two.

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right. So when you're doing the IVF or surrogacy process,

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you have an option quite early on to test the

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>embryos for genetic disorders basically, yeah, And through that process

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you get a little output document of all the embryos

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that have you know, in an order, and you get

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to decide like, which one do you want to put in?

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh crazy?

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>At the time, the data was if you put too

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>when you had a ninety percent tance of having one

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and we just wanted children, And sit down if you're

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>worried about money. But it's two hundred and fifty thousand

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>dollars Australian to share the process.

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 3>But it happened in the sights, all of it happened.

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.479
<v Speaker 2>And sorry, So this was for the two same price,

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 2>or as you double that.

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit more, so it'd be probably less

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 1>a probably be around two hundred. But when you're thinking

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 1>about how much is going to cost, the emotional toll,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the potential that not happening, you know, increasing the likelihood

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of having the success one and not having to go back.

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>We thought we'll put two in. If we get one,

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>amazing and if we have two, we'll see how that goes.

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow wow wow wow wow wow. And so do you

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>peak the carrier or do you pick the sarrogug Why did.

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.919
<v Speaker 1>You know that sarag We didn't know her ahead of time.

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So there is an agency, there's a lot of agencies

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in the States that will help you go through this process.

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>We found one in Boston called Circle Surrogacy. And what

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>they do is they basically work with women. They do

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>psychological assessment, make sure that they're in it for the

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>right reason. They have to have a job, they have

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to make more than one hundred and ten thousand dollars

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>as a family, so that These people aren't just doing

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it to make whole heart cash. They have to be

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>done with their families. They have to have had a

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>successful birth without sea section, so there's a lot of criteria.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay for.

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>These women to come and do it. And our Sarah Gath,

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this amazing woman, had had three kids already and just

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>really loved being pregnant, and she specifically loved the idea

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of finding a gay family. She said it in her notes.

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>We live in a part of the country where there

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't a lot of diversity. How cool would it be

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>for our kids to have these extended family. Wow, so beautiful.

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 3>So they did you actually get to meet her at

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 3>any point?

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, so they make you communicate every single week,

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>but obviously we spoke almost every single day. We had

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>her fly out for appointments. Josh would goet went flew

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 1>out to an appointment, and since the birth, they've come

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to Australia. We've had holidays in Christmas with them. It's there.

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 1>We really think of them as a special aunt.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Number the kids have a relationship with her in the family.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>That was always, always, always, always, always the goal that

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they knew every single person involved, so that there weren't

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>huge question marks attached to their life, and they go

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to therapy when they're twenty eight and I feel like

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>something's missing. Yes, now they're going to know these people.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>This selfless woman and her whole family just wanted to help.

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>They wanted to bring these people into the world, and

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>there's so much love around them.

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 4>So that when it came to like the embryos, the

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 4>IVF stuff, are they actually her eggs, they're not.

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good, but they're not biologically her children.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Nope. So there are two types of surrogacy, and in

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>this country it's a pretty low percentage. In an America,

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's similar. The number of women who carry a child

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for a family whose eggs it is is small. Almost

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>every case, an IVF clinic is used, and the family

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>can either take a donation from a family member if

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>they want, or a really good friend oftentimes friends. I'm

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>sure it said to you like a drunken at night,

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like I would love to donate or carry your baby cheap.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm waiting for the Digena office.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>After this call. Things are gonna told Jenny, you're carrying

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>my baby. If you locked it or not, you'll have

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to do.

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>This is right, This is why the laws exist.

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 3>We don't need to fuck around with a Jane. I'll

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 3>get you pregnant now where you go you play t you.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Fucking grabbed my crutch more time? Anyway? Yes, sorry, Sean.

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Or you can use an IVF clinic and they will

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>find egg donors for us. We're really lucky that a

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>family member offered to donate her eggs. Oh happy to say,

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I am not happy to say no, no.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 7>No, that iss good to say, thank you.

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll wait till the kids are older. That's really their story.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>There their own personal stuff.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>That's good. So you get the egg and then you obviously,

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>how do you decide how does the who gives the sperm?

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 2>How does that happen?

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a family member of mine got it,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So me donating sperm would be really really bad. It's

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>very unfortunate.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 2>What a waste of money.

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>That was easy for us.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Also, so the kids are both of your genetics.

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Wow, which is why I think everyone's like

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they look so much like you?

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Is that that? I mean? It's beautiful? Doesn't this

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 2>warm your heart?

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I love this?

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool.

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>People all know that these options exist. There aren't that

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>many stories like ours, Like I think at the time

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>there probably only were a couple hundred in the world

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 1>who had put all of those pieces together, who had

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>had the donation and found the saragate and it all

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 1>works out the first way.

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 4>And so is there any point where you thought, fuck

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 4>me a lot of hopes to jump through, it can't

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.919
<v Speaker 4>be bothered, or did you really, really, really really want

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 4>a family?

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So no question, I'll be honest with you, Like my

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>entire life story is wrapped up and feeling like if

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>being gay was going to stop me from being a dad,

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>then I definitely didn't want to be alive. Parenthood has

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>always been I've been chasing motherhood, specifically that specific ideal

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of stay at home and helping to raise kids. And

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>so I think all the trauma of being a young

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>religious kid, thinking if I can't have that, then what's

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the point. So when the world changed and it became

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>an option, I just was gonna run and chase. It

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't matter to me how much money it costs, It

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't matter to me how hard it was going to be.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a parent, but it did not

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>matter to me that it was serrogacy like it did

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>not matter. It was the fact that the offer was given,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that beautiful donation when it was in my hand, Like,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>when that beautiful offer existed, I was like, I'm gonna

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll chase this. But up until that offer, we were

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>just going down the adoption path. Less expensive, easier process, long,

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>long way, and a beautiful gift to society. And so

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening, I mean that option is an amazing option.

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 4>Wow, I feel like ad option would be a lot

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 4>of hoopes as well, So you reckon that's easier though, well.

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean easier in the sense that I guess less

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>invasive Physically, the timelines on adoption can be insane, like yeah,

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>waitless or years and years and years, but I do

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>know financially it is more inexpensive process.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Wow, what were the issues along the way? I mean,

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 2>these stories beautiful and it sounds like, oh, it all

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>happened in a week, but I'm sure it was a long, ruling,

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>tough process on your relationship as well.

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say that's probably the worst part is

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just that the relationship drama that comes with it, to

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have to take up massive loans to be able to

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>afford it, to have the privilege to be able to

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>do that. The family problems like you're bringing humans in

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>your family into your intimate relationship, which obviously is going

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to extend through generations, and so there's a lot of

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 1>psychological work that needs to be done, a lot of

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>therapy to make sure you're doing it for the right reasons.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>We are one of the lucky few who like the

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>eggs combined with the sperm made the ms. All the

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>embryos survived. We did our first implementation and both took

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and the pregnancy happened naturally, like in its own not naturally,

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>but happened in its perfect timeline. So as far as

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>that's concerned, we lucked out.

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow did they grill you as well?

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Because he says that the surrogate's obviously, you know, have

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that they've got all these criteria that

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 4>they tick off, you know, they've done with their family whatever, whatever.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Do they grill you as well? Or that it's kind

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 4>of like, yeah, and I will take you. Spoof makes

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:25.280
<v Speaker 4>some babies no worries.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh intense. So they actually don't just do it to

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the surrogate, they do it to her husband as well. Oh,

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>it's every single person involved needs to be in a

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>emotionally the right state of mind and doing it for

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the right reason. So as psychologist, what would they.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Ever say no to? What would they say now, you're

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:41.439
<v Speaker 3>not in the right set of mind?

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think for us as gay people, I guess it's like,

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, doing it for content yea, or because

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to. They ask you, like are you being

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>coerced to do this? Like is someone making you? Is

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>your relationship in a bad place and you're trying to

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>have a child to sit? You know how people do

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes like a relationship isn't working, but if we

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>had a kid, everything, yes, So they're trying to like

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 1>pick apart all of that and it's like, no, no,

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they really want to have kids. They're doing it for

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the right reasons, and yeah, we all got the little check.

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Also great black mail for the kids, Like if you

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 2>only knew how much you find it.

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>We wanted the shit out of you to prove it.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Dad wanted a brand new Porsche, but instead we got you.

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Or just confuse them and say, nah, you're an accident.

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I will a very elaborate accident as brilliant. That's really good.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.240
<v Speaker 2>The refund policy is still intact.

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think I'm just going to insert this in

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>here that street people should have to go through that

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>many hooks speaking.

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Like you mentioned the whole the baby trap or whatever

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>where they're like, oh, if we get.

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.479
<v Speaker 4>Pregnant, then he can't leave me. It's like, oh my god,

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 4>imagine if they had to go through that process at

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.280
<v Speaker 4>your first ultra Sound'm like, now, do you really bloody

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 4>want this through you?

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>It's being a bit about it.

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I also feel for the woman. They get bad sex

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's done like that, that's it. They get no

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>very true, very true. God, that's so cool that. And

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 2>so the book is what's in the book? Is it

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that journey? Is that story?

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like all the details that I've never shared publicly

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>about every intimate, the drive there, the actual birthing process,

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the drama of getting over to Australia, the struggles I

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>had when I moved here. I expected the country to

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>be a lot more accepting than it was, And so

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I talk.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>About its about parenthood.

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like people specifically in Sydney. I just thought of

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this as like a gay mecca. But when you're in America,

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you know of Sydney and Marty grauw. You hear about it, right,

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.879
<v Speaker 1>And so I just thought everyone would have probably met

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of gay parents, and it just hasn't been

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the case. You know, when I'm out the playground, when

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm at school drop off, I'm still the only one.

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And I said, the conversations that I had when I

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.919
<v Speaker 1>moved here really uncomfortable ones. I write about all of that.

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think if you are a parent or want

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to be one, it's a really interesting read because it's

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>going to give you some insight into how you can

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 1>be a better person to other people who are different,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>more empathetic, more sympathetic, kinder all that.

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny, it's so true that I feel Australia,

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you think the country is further further in than we

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 2>really are in terms of progress. That was my mom

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 2>has no homophobic buond and I bought it most beautiful

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 2>wman on Earth, but took my coming out the hardest

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 2>because she had no benchmark. She literally said to me,

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 2>does this mean your voice will change? Does this mean

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you will start talking like Carson Crazley? Love that that

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 2>was her point of reference. I said, I fucking wish

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and the process that she needed to go through was

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:22.479
<v Speaker 2>actually learning what a gay person was in twenty twenty

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 2>whenever the fucker came out because she had no idea,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>she didn't know anyone. She watched cam from Modern Family

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and thought he's going to start rolling his sleeves up

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 2>in that weird half triangle, roll in three quarters up

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>the rest, and that's what she thought I was going

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Truthfully, I'm so glad you brought that up, because I

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of queer people when they come out,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>expect their family to accept them in one one hundredth

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of the timeline it took them to figure out and

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>come out of the closet. Yeah, our expectation is like

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I've told you it, except me immediately and if not,

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you're terrible. It took us how long I from the

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 1>day I decided to the day I came out, you know,

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>years and years and years and years of struggling and

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>then we like spit it out. But for our parents' generation,

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>justifiably gay equal death. Yeah, Sidneymore and Herald boom Aids.

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 2>On TV with the fucking Grim Reaper and the bolleyball.

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so we're expecting them to unpick all that

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>internalized homophobia. You know, it's a different time. We're in

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a much better place. But I often say to parents,

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is you're putting your trauma of your past onto us

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>when the reality is kids are growing up in a

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 1>much different place than even the four of us grew

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>up in kids that are coming out an eleven proudly

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 1>at their school and no one even cares, No one

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>gives a shit, And we're like, oh, wait a second,

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>this is what your life is going to be through

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the lens of our upbringing.

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you've got to give parents a little

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 4>bit of grace if they're not thrilled immediately, because they

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 4>will come around. But like you said, they've got a

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 4>process too.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 3>By the way, were you there when the Sury gave birth?

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 4>No, because my question is going to be who do

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 4>they hand the kids to, because normally they you know,

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:49.800
<v Speaker 4>wrap them up and give them to their person that

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:50.439
<v Speaker 4>just gave birth.

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>There's two of them.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:55.919
<v Speaker 1>Luckily, we talked about this on another show, so I'm

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like comfortable to say it, but we missed it by

0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.720
<v Speaker 1>six minutes. You're joking, such a bummer.

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh and so they were they were there when you

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 4>walked in. You have it's not like you have to

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:04.439
<v Speaker 4>wait a few weeks close.

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>We were just rushing there, so.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 2>You so obviously she went into did you plant? He

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:09.799
<v Speaker 2>had the Flights book and planned to try to get

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>there early and try to beat it. Yeah, she just

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 2>went in early. Yeah, yeah, healthy birth though, right.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>You will have to read about that in my book.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 3>He's good. I'm available for pre order at big w Now.

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Tell me how many pages of glossy pictures are in

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 2>the center of the book.

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 7>I think, eat, I skip it straight away.

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't funk with the blurb, but I don't funk

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 2>with the foreword. I go straight to that glossy section

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 2>in the middle life and I look at the photos.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>All I do eight is good?

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.279
<v Speaker 4>And then don't you love when you look at the

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 4>photos first in an autobiography and then you read the

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 4>book and the photo suddenly makes sense because.

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>You look at it out of context. You're like, what

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 3>the fuck is this about?

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>And then you go read the book and go, oh,

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that's I go back to the middle section, like three hundreds.

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Are you doing an audiobook version? How long did it

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 4>take to record that?

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Or have you not done it yet?

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it's doing in April, and I think

0:53:58.480 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's five.

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Days fucking hell fantastic.

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 3>That would get so tedious.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And also emotionally trauma typed.

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do like a rehearsal? Do you

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 2>want to like? Should we give you some script? And

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 2>do you want to what book can we give?

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Could we have anything?

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh, surely you've got a little excerpt from your own book. Here,

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I'll bring up the blurb on the big W website.

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Here you go. You gotta put music on the back

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 3>of it, or no, it's gonna be an audiobook.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I've never listened to an audiobook.

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I think in the beginning sometimes they have music.

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I give you music.

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Sean Zepps wanted to be a mom since the age

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of four when he fell in love with Missus Potts.

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Actually makes no sense.

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have to change it to I want.

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a mom since the age of

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>four when I fell in love with Missus Potts, the

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Mothering Teapot and Beauty and the Beast. But there was

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>just one problem. I was not, in fact a woman.

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>They get you, Sean, Can you just do one more take?

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 2>As Carson Kresley. I wanted to be a mom since

0:54:55.040 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I was four. God can get the book, So June seventh,

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>it's out wherever you get your books.

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh, like I keep saying, because I'm so good, I've

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 4>got your back pre order available now at BW.

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>That's right, not like other dads? Do you think you

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>are like other dads?

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Why the fuck would he call this? And then the

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:18.720
<v Speaker 3>plot twist at the end is I have to actually

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.240
<v Speaker 3>do the question?

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Also was have you ever met a dad that he's

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 2>doing everything just the same way you are?

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Wow?

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I think there are amazing modern men who are very involved. Absolutely,

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but genetically. I don't have all the science to back

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this up, but like we know that women research has

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>been done, have more empathy, like wired into their entire

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>being and body. It is more natural for them also

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the way in which they're raised from a young age

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to care about specific things. So there are men who

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.439
<v Speaker 1>are involved. Absolutely, they are there, they are doing drop

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 1>off and pick up. They their wives work and they

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>stay at home. But I think there is something about

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>my childhood, specifically what it means to grow up gay,

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 1>what you are told that means, how to unpick that,

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to always feel like an outsider. So when you come

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to the parenting world and there's a script that exists,

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and that script is very straight, even if you're straight,

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you tried to disrupt it a little bit, you fall

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 1>into slots. Josh and I couldn't. It didn't make any

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>sense for us. So we had to literally look at

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it and go, Okay, we got to start over. We

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>got to figure this out on our own. There's nothing

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:20.919
<v Speaker 1>to go off of. And because of that, I think

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we either do a lot more work than the average

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:25.280
<v Speaker 1>man to go how can we succeed?

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Do you make the same threats that my mother used

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 4>to be, like, ah, do you want me to get

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 4>your father?

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Like they're more scared?

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I say all the same things my mom said,

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 1>which is just so annoying.

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Scary though, isn't it. I catch myself out sounding like

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 2>my dad all the time.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, yeah, no, I really have turned out like

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 3>my mom.

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 4>I get furious if someone squashes the bread. Yeah, I'm like,

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 4>now there's water in the car, there's water at home.

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to go through the.

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 2>It's fun.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 3>I really am. Joane.

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, we love you. I could talk to you

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>for hours truly, that really could. I could, but we'll

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 2>have to let you go. Get the book. A pleasure

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 2>having you on. You get shown on so sean hips.

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Yes, I love you all.

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Great to have you on. Happy pride everyone as well.

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.479
<v Speaker 2>We'll get out of here, but I'm still a couple.

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 2>This will air and Pride's done.

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:11.760
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we're right at the Thailand.

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 2>We have all the bottom.

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Sure, it's pride.

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 2>We're at the bottom ends. I'm just saying we are.

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you just the side you know, sides of thing?

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 2>You'd be me side?

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Hi, nice to meet you. Yeah, oh my god.

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 2>You want to quickly spread some light on the side culture.

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 5>Sure.

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Historically we've always had top and bottom. Right, that's

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>actually taken not from the homosexual community, but just a

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>deep and powerful understanding of the position in which you

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>are playing. Are you dominant or are you not? And

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>so we have top and bottom that the gay community

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>uses primarily, which means you're either receiving bottom or you

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>are giving top. Well, side is a third option, and

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you're not so interested in the actual intercourse itself,

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>but all the other beautiful things you can do with

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>your hand in your mouth. Sex is not always on

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the agenda for you, and you don't want to be

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 1>labeled that way. In the gay community. I think everyone

0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>knows this here. You like introduce yourself that way, you

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>decide who you can and cannot be with. You know,

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you have amazing connection at the bar and they're like

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>tupper bottom and you're both tops. You're like, ah, shit, Like,

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>there goes the potential of that.

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought of that.

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, there's other things you could doctly, But I

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 7>think for a long time there's just been a bunch

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 7>of people who thought, oh, maybe I'm a little bit broken.

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to do all these things, but

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I like all the other elements a lot. And now

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 1>there's this label that Grinder has really been the first

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>large business to like.

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:29.919
<v Speaker 2>It's on Grinder's side.

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were the first. I mean it was a

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>psychologist in America who came up with the term, but

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Grinder was the first ones to grab it and go,

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to give people this option and then educate

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>around it.

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's actually the first time I've heard that's on

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 4>TikTok And now.

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I know it's a Pride sponsorship. I'm working with Grinder. No,

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 2>They really like the gay dad.

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>You're a married man with children and you're a grind

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 3>rambas at a place.

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm considering Grinder way back when had the criteria

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you could filter by rice. I mean they've come a

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>real long way. The community has the fact that you

0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 2>just think about that, the fact that you could filter

0:58:59.440 --> 0:58:59.919
<v Speaker 2>out by rice.

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Could you do I barely use Grinder in my life.

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Can you actually do that?

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I was listening to a podcast it yeah, yeah, which.

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I've never used it either, but I couldn't tell you

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>about that.

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 3>That sounds that's a pretty good impression from me.

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>That was very good. Does Tinder have a sound?

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I think they just have a normal notification go off.

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Don't they like a text?

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Straight? Yeah? Fucking the heads of course. No creativity. Imagine

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I imagine being the gay marketing man at Tindy. I'd

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 2>go make it a little tinder flame. Yeah, yeah, you

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 2>got about Hinge.

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the real one. That's the one where you actually

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>find love.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 3>That's where I met my Shaan.

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>What was the sound for that?

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I've always got my phone in silent to be fair,

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it's it's a normal door opening.

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>It should be a door. Yeah, I love that. What

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 2>else is there? Christian mingle?

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Plenty of fishes, but gay Christian.

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Mingle would be it would be like you'd be banished.

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would just be the burning sound beans.

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 2>A straight person gets a match, but us. Sorry, I

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:07.959
<v Speaker 2>have a real thing for sound effects. I have everything ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've been so well. Behavioral episode.

1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mitch hates it.

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<v Speaker 3>We better go. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, sure on the helicopter. Just tell all our guests

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 2>what's your next?

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.959
<v Speaker 3>Guy? Bye bye Bob?

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank god he's gone, he's coming back. What do

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to just came back to life?

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Just what I wanted to plug my book one more time?

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:33.240
<v Speaker 2>What's the title?

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<v Speaker 3>Not like other dads?

1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Where can we reorder?

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Thanks? You buy on Instagram? It's so stupid. Thank you

1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:45.520
<v Speaker 2>shwing me, love you, Thanks for having me, love you

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see you next week. Everybody, by bye? Is

1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 2>it just me?

1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 1>A podcast by a couple of meches.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you've hit full on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>At Welcome to add brief. This is our secret segment

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<v Speaker 4>on the end. Did you know we had a secret segment?

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<v Speaker 3>Shollan.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Normally the rule is if the guest doesn't know about it,

1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 4>we keep it from them. But nah, you can say,

1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:24.720
<v Speaker 4>I like you I and didn't know about it, so out.

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<v Speaker 2>He went out. I saw Jack Vision at a Marti

1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:30.720
<v Speaker 2>at a house party. That's another QN about Marti grad

1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that I like. How in Paddington and Oxford Street and

1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Sorry Hills, all these beautiful gay terraces put up a

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:38.120
<v Speaker 2>pride flag and it's kind of like, I didn't realize

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of an open house. You kind of need

1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to know. One day. You kind of had to, you know,

1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 2>suck him off of the year before. It's something. It's

1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the weird invite system. But we were walking through Paddington

1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 2>and Hayden's like all my friend lives here. We walked

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:51.800
<v Speaker 2>in and we stayed for an hour. Jack Vigion was

1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:54.920
<v Speaker 2>there and the sweetest little palm you've ever met.

1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So sweet?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, are you acting like you've only just

1:01:57.400 --> 1:01:57.840
<v Speaker 3>met Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but I just I just really think we

1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:01.360
<v Speaker 3>were just a little plumb. I was like, Okay, it's

1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:02.280
<v Speaker 3>been on this show before.

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I've interview Jack as as Jack Vigion. But at this party,

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the guard was down. Yeah, and I was like, oh,

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:09.919
<v Speaker 2>this is this is Jack. Yeah.

1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I think it's pretty much the same on the podcast

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:13.600
<v Speaker 4>as he is in real life. By the way, his

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:15.960
<v Speaker 4>thing better than drugs and dick with sobriety five am

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:18.160
<v Speaker 4>starts and writing gratitude journals.

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:24.840
<v Speaker 3>The sobriety thing relate Relaten's. I spoke to him about that.

1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.240
<v Speaker 4>I said, so, you were banging out about sobriety last

1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:28.800
<v Speaker 4>sunder on the podcast, and you've got a drink in

1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:30.400
<v Speaker 4>your hand. He goes, Yeah, it's just good to do

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:33.640
<v Speaker 4>a reset. The relationship with alcohol isn't bad. So we

1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:34.440
<v Speaker 4>were back on the booths.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not bad. That's what I'm doing. I'n't drunk.

1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Sin's September. I've just been off for a year. Yeah,

1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 2>since my birthday.

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:41.760
<v Speaker 3>How did you make it through family Christmas?

1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you actually love each other? There's a real connection.

1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 2>It's the food that definitely fills that for that's a

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:51.240
<v Speaker 2>real problem. But yeah, I just don't I just don't drink.

1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I haven't missed it at all. Hayden drinks lost for

1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:57.840
<v Speaker 2>for both of us, correct, But I just just I'm

1:02:57.880 --> 1:02:58.920
<v Speaker 2>off it and I don't miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's so good. Doesn't drink at all, really hasn't

1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for a very very very long time. And when you

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:06.680
<v Speaker 1>are a partner of someone who doesn't drink for whatever reason,

1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:11.160
<v Speaker 1>if you love them a lot, you are you're sometimes stuck.

1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>You're like, Okay, I don't want to do this around them.

1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to enable them.

1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Would he be tempted?

1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think so potentially. So when we're out at venues

1:03:17.920 --> 1:03:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like last night, he's very comfortable. But when we're at home,

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<v Speaker 1>I basically the day he decided he wasn't drinking anymore

1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:25.160
<v Speaker 1>was the day that I never drink at home again.

1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And so it actually kind of works out because now

1:03:27.440 --> 1:03:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a little bit fitter than I was before.

1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm a bit like that with my Sean because

1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:36.000
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't not drink, but he certainly is a lot

1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:38.760
<v Speaker 4>more lightweight than me. And so because I'm like, oh, well,

1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:40.560
<v Speaker 4>he's still going on that drink, I would normally go

1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:42.160
<v Speaker 4>for a top up. Now I have a think a moment,

1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:43.680
<v Speaker 4>but I'm like, I better pace myself because I look

1:03:43.680 --> 1:03:45.720
<v Speaker 4>like a real grounk if I've had like the all

1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:47.080
<v Speaker 4>the amount of drinks that it's had him to have

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<v Speaker 4>one you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to be on the same level. It's not one

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<v Speaker 1>person is a wastecase and you're the superle That was Bardigra.

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<v Speaker 2>After we left the Jack Vision party, We're in Surrey

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<v Speaker 2>Hills and Hayden's like, I'm much drunk than new Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go get some frozen yuggurt. Well yeah he could have

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<v Speaker 2>a drop, no, but you can hang out with a

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<v Speaker 2>tipsy person totally. If you hang out with a blind person,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a blind partner, then I'm suddenly the full time

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<v Speaker 2>care or yeah, why being and the whole. So we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up at Yeah Yo Chi frozen yogurt getting coconut

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<v Speaker 2>yogurt at eleven thirty Matogram night. It's great. It was

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<v Speaker 2>actually I did I did a service to the Gaze

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<v Speaker 2>because they closed the doors earlier. It was like eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>They were closing at midnight, and all these guys like

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<v Speaker 2>banging on the dog give me like it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>zombie movie, like need their frozer. And then I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>round in front of that green push to open button

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<v Speaker 2>because I had and I you were. The staff were

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<v Speaker 2>furious because they wanted to close, so then all these

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<v Speaker 2>gays would run in and then the doors would close,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like another horde had build up and I

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<v Speaker 2>just go thing, all these gays would filter in. She

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<v Speaker 2>asked me to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hoo, why would they close at eleven thirty? They

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<v Speaker 3>could make a killing a mato grand night because there

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<v Speaker 3>were so many people to serve. Oh right, they weren't closed.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just pacing it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were you know, they were shutting it because by

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<v Speaker 2>the time they'd serve the customers that were already there,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be midnight. So if they left the door open,

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<v Speaker 2>they just would never stop. Said, I mean, they should

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<v Speaker 2>have stayed up into five am.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just have a quick conversation about this country's

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit relationships and not having food available for us late

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<v Speaker 1>at night drunk.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's some weird Mandela effects shit going

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<v Speaker 4>on because I went to a porto on Oxford Street

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<v Speaker 4>at two am and it was closed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and people were like, oh, yeah, they closed it.

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<v Speaker 3>One I was like, I swear to fucking God, I've

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<v Speaker 3>stumbled in there at four am.

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<v Speaker 6>Both of us have been there, yes, And.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's like, no, it's always closed it one SI fucking

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<v Speaker 4>I swear I've been in there when the sun's rising.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a gallo new to Like it's always

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<v Speaker 2>the chicken shops, They're always open. What do you find

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<v Speaker 2>it a problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, from the States New York, LA, where it's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven availability, I want to be four o'clock drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be six in the morning drunk. I

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<v Speaker 1>want whatever time I want food. It needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>there for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the States, like these places, including restaurants I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked at make a killing half drunk, people who like

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<v Speaker 1>will fall in or like I have a pasta please.

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<v Speaker 3>Like nah, not in Sydney might lookout loss in any state.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I did feel that Sydney was back

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<v Speaker 2>to its former glory at the opening party. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>felt alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Because those lockout laws were dark fucking days.

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<v Speaker 1>The overall consensus was that it was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better parades and parties and people were having a

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<v Speaker 1>really good time. That's wonderful. I was at home sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't attend the parade.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know well, you know me, I you

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<v Speaker 1>know this, But I don't do crowds. I cannot make

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<v Speaker 1>social anxiety. It's like way too much for me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I whenever wear an event and you're there,

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<v Speaker 4>I just latch onto high someone I know who is

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<v Speaker 4>happy to be on my wavelength.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we can't drink too much. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>need to hide in the corner with people who just

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<v Speaker 1>want to chat. Yeah, but like large, large crowds like

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<v Speaker 1>that will just spiral me, which is a bummer because

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<v Speaker 1>you miss out on those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>It also brings out a really nasty side of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll start elbowing people. I don't give a fuck, like

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm trying to get a good spot for mine

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<v Speaker 3>Aground'm like, no, I'm ruthless.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you quit your DAT would make you

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<v Speaker 2>have that in common. You both quit your day jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a full time content creation Yeah, Sean, the

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<v Speaker 2>shan of it all? Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, How did you think I could write a book?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck it now, I'd say, don't Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it being shocking?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the self disciplined to write a bloody book?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>And did someone edit it? I would take that so

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<v Speaker 3>personally if they changed my words.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that was the hardest part for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they deliver the news like we canna cut

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<v Speaker 2>the part where you talk about the grief of the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of XYZ.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had a call the first time, but they

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<v Speaker 1>basically it's just like in uh what is it called

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<v Speaker 1>like changes in word documents? Oh, you don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>read every single one one at a time, one at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, one at a time. The good news is

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<v Speaker 1>is my editor legend lesbian soon to be mother who

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<v Speaker 1>found out her wife was pregnant two days after she

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<v Speaker 1>got my book deal. So whatever she said, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's an hour, Like she gets it. Yeah, Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a straight person be like, how dare

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to take that?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I just basically went with it. But anytime someone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that most traumatic moment you had in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you make it a little bit funnier? And you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the punch?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we know you were in America Dream nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>but we would have drag brunch that Homan. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>be are you comfortable stretch of making it happen? That's

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<v Speaker 2>my problem. I embellish everything. I would embellish my life

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<v Speaker 2>story and it's facts.

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<v Speaker 3>So people could just go back and be like that

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<v Speaker 3>memory should I have to double check it with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's then the heart. I mean that the number of

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<v Speaker 1>details you need about personal things in your life to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to write a story, write all the little elements,

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<v Speaker 1>since you're constantly having to call people and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>so remember when this happened, that didn't happen, Sehan, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? They have to go and find the

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<v Speaker 1>videos or find the pictures and really confirm every single

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<v Speaker 1>detail and then legally contact every single person who's in it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>every quote, every sentence, every email that.

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<v Speaker 3>Did anyone get on Naki Like, nah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be in your book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but we're going to just not talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>one publicly. You know, there are some humans for sure

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<v Speaker 1>who are like, actually, it's your story and you should

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<v Speaker 1>speak your truth. But I could have negative ramifications on

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<v Speaker 1>some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, true. Did you go back and read a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of really good autobiographies?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and I isolated my favorite writers. A huge

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<v Speaker 1>Nora Ephron fan. Love Lena Dunham's writing. Very big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Anthony Bourdain's first book, Parts Unknown No Parts un

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<v Speaker 1>I think so yeah, I'm blinking either way. Love their

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<v Speaker 1>writing style, like very big fan of that youthful almost

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<v Speaker 1>like colloquial extra comma uses that makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you understand their tone. I read all three of those

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<v Speaker 1>like three times. So I read them, started writing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then at my halfway point, read all three again just

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<v Speaker 1>so I could get into this is what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, smart choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you read three books three times?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean that's like the thirtieth time I read

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<v Speaker 1>all three of those books.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you potentially look into hiring one of the ghost writers.

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<v Speaker 1>That gets brought up for sure in the beginning?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Really, yeah, Like I think anyone like always an

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<v Speaker 3>influence three Country.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was is they found me through my writing.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I was writing for Mama Mea a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they found all that, sliced it together and like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually just a book. If you take these like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen articles, there's a book right here. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>they just were like, oh, you can write, which you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The craziest one literally did that. She used to write

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<v Speaker 4>like a Sunday column in the paper and then release

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<v Speaker 4>a book which was literally just back to back all

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<v Speaker 4>of her columns in one book.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that is so lovey, so smart, so clever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, let's just get our fucking podcast transcribed

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<v Speaker 2>and write a coffee table book.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can, you should.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was an idea. We had to do a

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<v Speaker 2>coffee table book for this podcast with just all the

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<v Speaker 2>is it just me? And then it's conversation or ide

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<v Speaker 2>was a card game? So then you so that it's

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<v Speaker 2>you're the party and you is it just me? Or

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<v Speaker 2>your question? My question? And then people your emerg.

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<v Speaker 1>Did well, So I feel like this would do well.

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<v Speaker 3>Do what about a coffee table book of all the

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<v Speaker 3>things better than drugs?

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<v Speaker 2>And oh that actually that's really good. Well, the next

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<v Speaker 2>merch we've spoken about putting the list we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do on.

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<v Speaker 3>The page for rimming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just a picture of my asshole?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you apply that?

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<v Speaker 1>I already you already have it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I scan that too. All right, Well, because we

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<v Speaker 2>love you, I think you're coming again.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great for sticking around.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy did you listen to any of the

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<v Speaker 2>show pre coming on here?

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<v Speaker 7>Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen before?

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<v Speaker 3>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we hope this podcast made you feel at least

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<v Speaker 4>three percent better today.

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