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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty eighth of March. I'm sam, i'm Zara, my

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Speaker 2: Redeeming has been suspended from the Victorian Liberal Party for

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Speaker 2: nine months after she attended an anti trans rally in

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Speaker 2: Melbourne a week and a half ago.

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Speaker 3: She will lose the Whip's position, an important position in

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Speaker 3: the Upper House, and it will be for Mara to

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Speaker 3: prove herself over the coming months.

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Speaker 2: During her suspension, the rally in question was attended by

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Speaker 2: several Neo Nazis who made Nazi salutes in the direction

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Speaker 2: of the lgbtqia plus community members who are protesting the event.

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Speaker 4: There is public outcry for tougher laws on why supremacy.

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Speaker 4: After those thirty Neo Nazis stormed and crashed to protests

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Speaker 4: here at Parliament House between pro and anti transgender groups.

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Speaker 2: As well as Deeming's suspension. The event has resulted in

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Speaker 2: a proposed law to ban the Nazi salute in Victoria.

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Speaker 2: We're going to cover off some of that context stand

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Speaker 2: the political fallout in the Deep Dive today, but first

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Speaker 2: Sarah the headlines.

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Speaker 5: The federal government has struck a deal with the Greens

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Speaker 5: to pass legislation that will cap emissions of Australia's biggest

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Speaker 5: carbon polluters. The government's proposed changes to reduce emissions over

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Speaker 5: time had stalled, but support from the Greens will now

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Speaker 5: effectively guarantee it can be passed. The deal will ensure

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Speaker 5: major new polluters can't add to overall emissions.

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Speaker 2: Communications Minister Michelle Roland has asked Australia's top online dating

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Speaker 2: platforms how they're protecting users from sexual abuse and harassment

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Speaker 2: and that's part of a crackdown on online dating safety.

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Speaker 2: More specifically, Rolands has asked how they stop banned users

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Speaker 2: creating new accounts and the number of complaints they're receiving

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Speaker 2: about harassment or abuse.

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Speaker 5: Ukraine has called for an extraordinary meeting of the UN

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Speaker 5: Security Council after Russian President Vladimir Pudin said they would

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Speaker 5: station Russian nuclear weapons in Belarus. In a statement, the

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Speaker 5: Ukrainian government said the move was another provocative step by

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Speaker 5: Pudin and said the Security Council should act to counter

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Speaker 5: the quote nuclear blackmail from Russia.

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Speaker 2: And today's good news. There's been a thirteen percent reduction

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Speaker 2: in deaths caused by alcohol consumption in Scotland after a

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Speaker 2: minimum alcohol price law came into place in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: The law has meant drinks can't be sold for less

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Speaker 2: than fifty pence, and a four percent reduction in hospitalizations

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Speaker 2: related to alcohol was also recorded in this period. The

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Speaker 2: greatest improvements were found to have been in the most

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Speaker 2: socioeconomically deprived population groups. There was a development in the

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Speaker 2: story yesterday following the anti trans rights rally which was

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Speaker 2: attended by neo Nazis in Melbourne now a week and

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Speaker 2: a half ago. A Victorian Liberal MP, her name is

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Speaker 2: Moira Deeming, has been suspended by the party for her involvement.

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Speaker 5: All right, so let's just start with some background on

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Speaker 5: this story. One of the key players here is more Deeming.

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Speaker 5: She's a Victorian Liberal MP tell me a bit more

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Speaker 5: about her.

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Speaker 2: So she sits in the opposition of Victoria's Upper House.

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Speaker 2: She is a member of the Liberal Party. She was

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Speaker 2: elected for the first time at this last election, so

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Speaker 2: she's pretty fresh. She's only four months into this current term.

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Speaker 2: She's known for having conservative views on abortion and transgender rights.

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Speaker 2: She was also critical of COVID nineteen restrictions and vaccine mandates.

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Speaker 2: Now Deeming was suspended from the party yesterday after her

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Speaker 2: involvement with a controversial anti trans rights rally that was

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Speaker 2: held outside Victoria's Parliament House the weekend before last. Several

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Speaker 2: neo Nazis attended the rest There were some really shocking

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Speaker 2: photos that came out of it. They were wearing black

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Speaker 2: shirts and formed a line making a Nazi salute in

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Speaker 2: the direction of the lgbt QIA plus community members and

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Speaker 2: allies who were peacefully protesting against the anti trans rally.

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Speaker 2: Now Deeming, who appears to have spoken at this event,

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Speaker 2: later said that she was horrified to see the neo

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Speaker 2: Nazis at the rally and condemned their actions, saying that

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Speaker 2: they gate crashed the event.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there are so many parts at play here.

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Speaker 5: There's the anti trans activists, then there's the neo Nazis,

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Speaker 5: and then there's how that all corresponds with Victorian parliament

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Speaker 5: and Victorian politics. Let's break that down a bit more

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Speaker 5: and maybe start with the rally in question where all

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Speaker 2: So this whole thing was led by a prominent UK

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Speaker 2: anti trans activist, Posey Parker. Now she's also known as

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Speaker 2: Kelly J Keene Mitchel. Parker had been touring in Australia

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Speaker 2: which claims transgender threatening women. To give you a bit

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Speaker 2: of a sense of what Parker has said in the past,

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Speaker 2: She's made claims before that being transgender is a fetish

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Speaker 2: and it poses a safety threat to young girls, claims

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Speaker 2: which have strongly been condemned by advocates. Now organizers of

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Speaker 2: the rally have claimed the event wasn't attended by neo Nazis.

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Speaker 2: They say rather transwrite activists or police in disguise were

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Speaker 2: sabotaging the event. But this isn't the first time that

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Speaker 2: Parker has been associated with the far right. In particular,

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Speaker 2: she's been criticized for having her photo taken with a

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Speaker 2: Norwegian neo Nazi and appearing in videos with neo Nazi figures.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Another organizer of the rally, her name is Angie Jones,

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Speaker 2: sent out a tweet on the day saying Nazis and

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Speaker 2: women want to get rid of pedofilth why don't you?

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Speaker 2: And then if we come back to more redeeming the

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Speaker 2: Victorian MP who were talking about in the news this week,

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Speaker 2: she appeared on a live YouTube stream after the rally

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Speaker 2: with Parker and Jones where they drank champagne and discussed

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Speaker 2: the day and this is more redeeming.

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Speaker 5: Who's an MP And we've just had an exceptionally interesting

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Speaker 5: day and it's fair to say that there has been

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Speaker 5: a political fallout since. Then take me through what has

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Speaker 5: happened in Victorian politics.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's kind of been two buckets to the political responses,

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Speaker 2: and one of them is about the Nazi salute and

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Speaker 2: the other is about MOI redeeming. So perhaps let's start

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Speaker 2: with the salute. The actions of the Nia Nazis at

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Speaker 2: the rally on the steps of Victoria's Parliament really pushed

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Speaker 2: the Victorian government to seek a ban on the public

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Speaker 2: display of Nazi salutes. Only a couple of days later,

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Speaker 2: the Tasmanian government announced a similar plan and then the

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Speaker 2: Queensland Premier, Anastasia Palichet has said that her government is

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Speaker 2: also considering a ban.

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Speaker 5: And then if we come back to Deeming, the Liberals

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Speaker 5: held a party room meeting yesterday that everyone was kind

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Speaker 5: of waiting to hear the outcome of what was that outcome.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those ones where there were cameras

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Speaker 2: outside the door waiting for people to emerge with a

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Speaker 2: decision on what was going to happen to Moi Redeeming's career.

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Speaker 5: Analysts who were tweeting like can hear clapping and they

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Speaker 5: were reporting from the outside what they could hear in

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Speaker 5: but had no idea what was happening.

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Speaker 2: And this was all against the context of the fact

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Speaker 2: that the leader of the Victorian Liberal Party his name

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Speaker 2: is John Pursudo, had been calling for her to be

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Speaker 2: expelled from the party last week, so that was the

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Speaker 2: presumption going into the meeting.

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Speaker 3: Maury Deeming has had an association with people who organized

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Speaker 3: the rally, along with her assistants, who have shared platforms

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Speaker 3: with and viewpoints with people who promote Nazi views or sympathies.

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Speaker 2: That Perseudo says, things changed when Deeming offered a condemnation

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Speaker 2: yesterday morning. Have listened to the Victorian Liberal Party leader

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Speaker 2: speaking at a press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 3: She, amongst other things, and I won't go into all

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Speaker 3: of the detail, but certainly called out Nazism and also

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Speaker 3: called out any kind of bigotry against the LGBTI community.

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Speaker 2: Now, according to Purseudo, these concessions from Deeming, as well

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Speaker 2: as what he described as an emotional party meeting yesterday morning,

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Speaker 2: led the party to suspend her for a nine month

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Speaker 2: term instead of expelling her, and Pursudo said she would

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Speaker 2: be expected to prove herself during that time in order

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Speaker 2: to return to the party.

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