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Speaker 1: Now, we spoke pretty extensively yesterday on the show about

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Speaker 1: in the studio is the Federal Member for Solomon, Luke Goslin.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Luke, Morning Katie, Thanks so much for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Now, Luke, we know the stress on

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Speaker 1: We've got, I guess you'd say one of the busiest

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Speaker 1: You know, interesting to hear that cole yellows are no

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Speaker 1: there's still concerns with capacity and certainly we heard yesterday

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Speaker 1: there is still immense pressure on our emergency department at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he represents the health professional, So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: So that's why we've come in with a sixty million

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Speaker 1: And it's something we have spoken about, like you and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was hoping Steve Egerson would get on the

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Speaker 2: There was a previous plan to put the facility out

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Speaker 1: I think they might want to go with a different location.

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Speaker 1: That all makes sense so from your perspective though, with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there already are. But we're already having a

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Speaker 1: The world and what do you reckon that could mean

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Speaker 2: Well, loads, we've got a UK aircraft carrier group in

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Speaker 1: the voluntary assisted dying legislation. Again. You know, you and

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Speaker 2: proper consultation. And that's not taking anything away from the

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Speaker 2: work that the previous group did. But I think we've

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Speaker 2: better draft legislation. If that's the way the part the

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Speaker 2: Anti Legistive Assembly wants to go, then then it must

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Speaker 2: be culturally appropriate and take into account all the voices

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Speaker 2: of territorians around the country, sorry around the territory being

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Speaker 2: the last to have this sort of legislation. The last

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Speaker 2: thing we want to do is draft up legislation without

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Speaker 2: the widest possible consultation.

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Speaker 1: Look very quickly before I let you go, I understand

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Speaker 1: you had a bit of an update on the Karama

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Speaker 1: Early Learning Center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five million, up to five million dollars. That was

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Speaker 2: an election commitment. I'm really proud of it because you know,

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Speaker 2: Karama does not have currently a functioning early childhood education

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Speaker 2: We need to be supporting those families and they'll be

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Speaker 2: better outcomes in primary school, it'll be better outcomes in

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Speaker 2: as many Territorians working as possible. There is a building

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Speaker 2: that was previously used as a childcare center in Karama.

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Speaker 2: The federal departments looking at that and is pretty interested

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Speaker 2: in that site. The City of Darwin has an EOI

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Speaker 2: process for that bit of land. There's some interest from

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Speaker 2: there's some interest from some counselors to basically extend that

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Speaker 2: putting some more money into that building at that site

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Speaker 2: and Care Center or ECEEC center. There might be other

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Speaker 2: bits of land in Karama as well that could take

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Speaker 2: Karma really needs it. So there's one in Malacc but

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Speaker 2: Karama needs one. We're committed to it, and I look

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Speaker 2: forward to hearing what the City of Darwin has to

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Speaker 2: say when they talk to the Federal Department about that

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Speaker 2: old old herb building and what we might be able

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Speaker 2: to do with it.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we will keep an eye and an

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Speaker 1: ear on that. Now, Look, will let you go because

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to well, we were going to

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Speaker 1: catch up or ask you as well about some awards

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Speaker 1: coming up, the National Veteran Awards Employment Awards, but I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to have a chat to Dan on

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Speaker 1: Brecky about that, so we'll leave him to ask you

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Speaker 1: some questions about that. Good to speak to you as always.

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Speaker 2: Good on your Katie, and just shout out to all

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Speaker 2: those veteran businesses out there and veterans in business that

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Speaker 2: have maybe served up here and are staying on Glenn.

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Speaker 2: That's really important.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Katie, really is Thanks Luke