Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. Alight. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast
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Speaker 1: streaming services today. On the podcast, I have New Zealand's
Speaker 1: favorite TV personality, Clint Randell of Channel seven's brand new
Speaker 1: dating show Heartbreak Island Australia, which launches this Thursday on
Speaker 1: seven plus right across Australia and with less television guidelines
Speaker 1: certain rules to obey when it comes to how saucy
Speaker 1: they can go. You'd be forgiven for calling this Seven's
Speaker 1: new steamy platform. Over the years, we have become accustomed
Speaker 1: to our favorite dating shows on freeware television, but now
Speaker 1: we have something new with a format that is designed
Speaker 1: to see the contestants hook up, bust up and manipulate
Speaker 1: their way toward cash. Prize that is one hundred percent
Speaker 1: a tangible certainty. I'm sure they can still play out
Speaker 1: their ill fated relationship journeys on their social media platforms
Speaker 1: once the show ends, but having the cash will certainly
Speaker 1: come in handy. Clint takes us behind the scenes, explains
Speaker 1: some of the new exciting twists install and talks about
Speaker 1: the lack of privacy for the contestants. However, let's get
Speaker 1: started with a sneak peek at the latest dating show
Speaker 1: in Australia. I'd like to welcome Clint Brandell to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where you really have to
Speaker 2: trust the partner that you're with. The search for your
Speaker 2: ideal match, your true love can feel like an endless journey.
Speaker 2: All of these people must do online dating, but they're
Speaker 2: also awful. Were hopefully there is someone out there that
Speaker 2: appreciates who I am. I remember some time and stuff
Speaker 2: would happen on the show and we'd be like, can
Speaker 2: we use that? I'm ready to find from girlfriend now?
Speaker 2: And if you settle down, there are some people that
Speaker 2: come in and they're just literally there for the money.
Speaker 2: They'll have to flip fight. So when at all on
Speaker 2: heartbreak Island. I always think like a great host will
Speaker 2: bring out the drama, but we'll still let the contestants
Speaker 2: drive the narrative.
Speaker 1: Hi, Clint, how are you thanks for having me on?
Speaker 1: What an exciting new gig to host Heartbreak Island Australia.
Speaker 1: How did this opportunity come about for you?
Speaker 2: It was really random. I got like a phone call
Speaker 2: like last year and it was from a guy Daryl,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I've got this TV show and I
Speaker 2: wonder if you want to host it? And I was like,
Speaker 2: what is it is? I can't really say that. Maybe
Speaker 2: you can come talk with me and all the rest
Speaker 2: of it and we'll sign in NDIA. And it was
Speaker 2: all very hush hush, and I'd hosted The Mask Singer,
Speaker 2: which is I guess what he had seen me on
Speaker 2: and gone, I think it'd be great for this, So
Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe it's something like that, and then realized
Speaker 2: very quickly we started talking about reality TV and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's nothing like the Mass Singer, but
Speaker 2: I've worked in radio, so I guess there was sort
Speaker 2: of like, you know, you have relationships with strangers and
Speaker 2: all those like relationship type things, and so I was
Speaker 2: like okay, and then I said to him is it
Speaker 2: a heartbreak Island? And he goes, why do you say that?
Speaker 2: And I said, because it's in your email signature like
Speaker 2: the shots he had done. So the cat was out
Speaker 2: of the bang early. But I mean they had me
Speaker 2: when they said shooting in Fiji for two months and
Speaker 2: we've got an international cast, a bunch of like Aussies, Kiwis, Americans,
Speaker 2: Brits And I was like, this sounds already like it
Speaker 2: has all the things for success. So I was like, mate,
Speaker 2: I'm totally it.
Speaker 1: Where do I sign? Where do I sign it? Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a dream job. You know, have you been a
Speaker 1: fan of these sort of dating shows before.
Speaker 2: Reality type shows? I mean I did really like Too
Speaker 2: Hot to Handle just as a bit of a different
Speaker 2: spin off from what is typically like a reality dating
Speaker 2: show you try and hook up with as me as
Speaker 2: you can. So that was probably the last one I
Speaker 2: think that I watched. It was Too Hot to Handle
Speaker 2: and seeing personal growth amongst all the throwing.
Speaker 1: And about you know what about this series was different
Speaker 1: to what we've seen before when it comes to young
Speaker 1: people finding love on television.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think for starters from the old season
Speaker 2: of Heartbreak Island and now opening it up to the
Speaker 2: world and having well just having people from different countries.
Speaker 2: They act differently in relationships. So even if you think
Speaker 2: you've got really good game, you might have good game
Speaker 2: in Australia, but you might not have great game when
Speaker 2: it comes to the British girls because they're not used
Speaker 2: to the laid back nature, you know, and maybe they
Speaker 2: want someone who's really confident, which we might see as cocky,
Speaker 2: you know. So that was actually really cool seeing just
Speaker 2: all the different mix of people coming together and dating
Speaker 2: in their own ways.
Speaker 1: I think the show involves what is called passion play,
Speaker 1: which I like, like this is a title which involves
Speaker 1: contestants being able to stray, stay or play. How does that?
Speaker 1: How do you explain that to people who have not
Speaker 1: seen this show?
Speaker 2: It's pretty much if you're The thing I like about
Speaker 2: this show is a reality dating show, is that there
Speaker 2: are challenges involved, and if you win the challenge, you're immune.
Speaker 2: So everyone's competing to try to win. If you lose,
Speaker 2: you're going home, unless you've built up a relationship with
Speaker 2: somebody else on the island where they're willing to throw
Speaker 2: their partner under the bus and swap you out and
Speaker 2: effectively they take your place going home on the next
Speaker 2: ferry back to Nandy Airport and you end up recoupling
Speaker 2: with them instead. So it's one of those ones where
Speaker 2: you really have to trust the partner that you're with,
Speaker 2: because if you think you can and you can't, then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, your bags are getting packed quite
Speaker 2: quickly because you're getting swapped out for someone that they've
Speaker 2: sneakily had their eye on. So you always see everyone
Speaker 2: trying to work out a plan B or a Plan C,
Speaker 2: so if they find themselves in trouble, they've almost got
Speaker 2: like a backup and then a backup backup to try
Speaker 2: and keep there are safe on the island effectively. So
Speaker 2: I think the thing I really like about this show
Speaker 2: is that, yes, it has the relationships, but rather than hearing,
Speaker 2: you know, just an entire hour of what's your type,
Speaker 2: you know, what's your type on paper and what's your
Speaker 2: and having them talk about it, it goes beyond that,
Speaker 2: where there is that competition element where you're always trying
Speaker 2: to work out who you can trust. Are they in
Speaker 2: it for the money or are they in it for love?
Speaker 2: And I think you find out quite quickly who's in
Speaker 2: it for what and the ones that don't do a
Speaker 2: good read on their partner, the ones that you know,
Speaker 2: get seen home quicker than they probably should have.
Speaker 1: And no one wants to leave the island. Is it
Speaker 1: a dangerous Is it dangerous to mix a dating show
Speaker 1: with challenges, money and love because it's a little bit
Speaker 1: like the New Big Brother here in Australia because there's
Speaker 1: a real human element to this show, but it's also
Speaker 1: mixed with some survivor like challenges. How do you think
Speaker 1: that's going to go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you're right when you start having
Speaker 2: those relationships where you actually like a person or they're
Speaker 2: a really nice person, and then you go, well, this
Speaker 2: game is sort of designed at times to be a
Speaker 2: little bit ruthless and maybe put yourself first. But then
Speaker 2: you also, I would like to think these people on
Speaker 2: the show know that they are being watched and the
Speaker 2: type of person that you want people to think of
Speaker 2: you as when you leave the show. So, I mean
Speaker 2: there's some questionable decisions and things app on the show
Speaker 2: that I think, man, I would not have done that,
Speaker 2: or you just you know, like sometimes the human and
Speaker 2: you go, but that's not fair or that's not right.
Speaker 2: But I think when you're on the show, it's like
Speaker 2: every feeling is amplified because nothing else is going on
Speaker 2: in the world except the show. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: that doing Big Brother, right, it's like no phones and
Speaker 2: this is everything. So if you're a little bit annoyed,
Speaker 2: you're just absolutely fuming. And if you're someone who is
Speaker 2: typically quite fluty, then you're probably full on, you know,
Speaker 2: full noise because this type of environment really heightens those types,
Speaker 2: like it pulls out the little thing and your personality
Speaker 2: and makes it like a massive thing. So I think
Speaker 2: in the beginning, let's be really careful how hard you
Speaker 2: play the game and how much you probably just think
Speaker 2: about how the type of person you want to be
Speaker 2: portrayed as on a show like this, where so many
Speaker 2: people when they do a reality daty show, I don't
Speaker 2: think are thinking about that, which is probably great for
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: I just love people who apply for these shows because
Speaker 1: they go from zero to one hundred, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think that that makes great television. How important is
Speaker 1: the casting of something like this? You know, what kinds
Speaker 1: of characters can we expect to fall in love with
Speaker 1: throughout this first series.
Speaker 2: I mean, the casting is everything you can have, like
Speaker 2: the world's greatest reality game. But if your cast aren't
Speaker 2: just amazing to watch and don't have that thing about
Speaker 2: them that just makes you go, I don't know, because
Speaker 2: you'll say, oh, why do you love Ash so much?
Speaker 2: Or why do you like Billy and they'll be like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just really like him. And I
Speaker 2: think that's where you want to be on a show
Speaker 2: like this, where people just naturally gravitated towards you. But
Speaker 2: there are some characters that like come in and I
Speaker 2: always feel for the disruptors because I always thought coming
Speaker 2: in as a disruptor generally on a reality day show
Speaker 2: is the best place to be because you fast forward
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, the cantiness in the beginning,
Speaker 2: and then you come in and everyone's over the oldies
Speaker 2: and you're the fresh meat and so you're the new plaything.
Speaker 2: But so often, I think on the show, the core
Speaker 2: group became so tight than anyone that came in. It
Speaker 2: was almost like they were an enemy to their current situation.
Speaker 2: And so you've got these incredible characters coming in and
Speaker 2: some of the ones, the intruders that come in and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this is going to be amazing, and
Speaker 2: then that gone as quickly as they showed up. And
Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking excuse the pun as a viewer, because you've
Speaker 2: got this new character that you love so much, and
Speaker 2: then you just can't get attached to too quick because some
Speaker 2: of them are just like in and then out, and
Speaker 2: it is like ruthless in that respect that the people
Speaker 2: on the island are playing that hard.
Speaker 1: Did you find it hard not to get involved in
Speaker 1: the drama. I've always thought hosting these sorts of shows
Speaker 1: would be really stressful for me because I'm too opinionated.
Speaker 1: I'd worry I'd get into the sand pit with the kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly the same. And so you would ask a question,
Speaker 2: they give you an answer and you knew was bas
Speaker 2: and you're like, why are you lying to me? Like
Speaker 2: you know you must know that I know that that
Speaker 2: has or hasn't happened, because I'll get a little bit
Speaker 2: of information behind the scenes as to what's going on
Speaker 2: when I'm not privy to their evening hangouts and stuff.
Speaker 2: And then you'd go a second time to try and
Speaker 2: give them a chance to come clean that lie again
Speaker 2: and you'd be like, don't you know, like if that
Speaker 2: motive was always like to go and try and get
Speaker 2: the best drama out of them without overstepping that line
Speaker 2: where I'm blowing up someone's game or manipulating it wants
Speaker 2: or desires on where I want the show to go.
Speaker 2: I always think, like a great host will bring out
Speaker 2: the drama, but we'll still let the contestants drive the narrative.
Speaker 2: And so I'm giving them a chance to come clean
Speaker 2: and maybe own their mistake, or I'm giving them a
Speaker 2: chance to like call this person out, but if they
Speaker 2: don't take it, well, then then that's up to them.
Speaker 2: I can't like, they're not puppets, right, and I'm the
Speaker 2: puppeteer making everything happen. I don't think that's kind of
Speaker 2: what people want to watch.
Speaker 1: Or you're a parent, so you're used to kids trying
Speaker 1: to bamboozle you to a certain extent, you know you
Speaker 1: can work it out.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, lie to the like if you're on
Speaker 2: the show, leaders, sure lie sheet and steal to the
Speaker 2: people on the show, but don't give a lie down
Speaker 2: the barrel to the camera, because that's the audience and
Speaker 2: they know everything. They know when you're lying because they've
Speaker 2: seen it all. So it's like you can light to
Speaker 2: the cast, but don't lie to me, or don't light
Speaker 2: of the camera because we know when you're lie, and
Speaker 2: you'll get found out and you'll be that guy.
Speaker 1: This show has this global feel to it, which you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, which, while it still is Heartbreak Island Australia,
Speaker 1: we are hearing American accents, New Zealand accent, you know,
Speaker 1: alongside the Australian accent. Do you think that we're going
Speaker 1: to need a few international visas being set up at
Speaker 1: the end of this, I mean, are we going to
Speaker 1: get some long term relationships coming out of the show.
Speaker 2: It's funny because the ones that I thought were locked
Speaker 2: in like quite early, and I was like, those two
Speaker 2: they're gonna make it like they're gonna be you know,
Speaker 2: there's always like one love story, Like generally it might
Speaker 2: be two or three, but there's kind of one that
Speaker 2: comes out of every show. We follow it for a
Speaker 2: while and see how long it takes before it fizzles out.
Speaker 2: I always got it wrong. It's like I was jinxing
Speaker 2: them and the ones that I wouldn't expect or I
Speaker 2: was like, what is it about those two that sort
Speaker 2: of keep it together. But the thing I realized that
Speaker 2: I was quite fascinated by it was in the beginning
Speaker 2: the way we peer them up as based off their
Speaker 2: online profiles. And I'd never done online dating before I
Speaker 2: got married, long like quite young and long before that.
Speaker 2: Amazing to me that like everybody's first pick, they couldn't
Speaker 2: stand within like twenty four or forty eight hours of choosing,
Speaker 2: almost and everyone that really gravitated towards somebody eventually wasn't
Speaker 2: even in their top three. A lot of the time,
Speaker 2: I was like, all of these people must do online dating,
Speaker 2: but they're also awful at it, like clearly in terms,
Speaker 2: so you only get a few photos in a bit
Speaker 2: of a bio. But to miss your first book, your
Speaker 2: second book, and your third pick and end up really
Speaker 2: hitting it off to someone who wasn't even on your
Speaker 2: radar was like baffling to me. So I was like,
Speaker 2: there might be some people watching the first Step and
Speaker 2: being like, huh, maybe I need to like expand my
Speaker 2: like age range or my location or my type and
Speaker 2: think about like dating some other people because it works
Speaker 2: for people on this show, and they definitely are some romances,
Speaker 2: and I will say the out words definitely does get
Speaker 2: dropped at least once or twice on the show, which
Speaker 2: I was like, shocked life.
Speaker 1: What is it about watching people hook up and bust
Speaker 1: up on television that excites us as an audience? Do
Speaker 1: you think it makes us feel more normal about our
Speaker 1: own relationships?
Speaker 2: One hundred? Is it being now on here where we
Speaker 2: are going oh good? Other people don't have their lives
Speaker 2: together either when it comes to relationships, and maybe seeing
Speaker 2: them make mistakes makes us feel better about ours and
Speaker 2: the ones that we make in our relationships. And also
Speaker 2: just seeing maybe people take like a chance that maybe
Speaker 2: we don't have the guts too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you see somebody just shooting the shot and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I wish I could do that, and then
Speaker 2: when it doesn't work out, you're like, see, and that's
Speaker 2: why I don't do that, you know? So I think
Speaker 2: we get to live curiously through some of these characters
Speaker 2: on the show, and almost it's like that painting like
Speaker 2: a roadmap with a number of didians. Sure, but like
Speaker 2: a roadmap where you can go all right, So that
Speaker 2: doesn't work, and that kind of does work. So maybe
Speaker 2: we're subtly teaching ourselves how to date and watching a
Speaker 2: show like this, there's probably more what not to do
Speaker 2: than what off the back of it, But sometimes that
Speaker 2: just is important, right, But what not to do?
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, I prefer to send the minions out
Speaker 1: to do the wrong thing so that I can learn
Speaker 1: from them as opposed to doing it myself. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is the show for you?
Speaker 1: Then you know the show launches here on seven plus.
Speaker 1: Do you know if we're going to be able to
Speaker 1: see more drama on a streaming platform, are we going
Speaker 1: to get away with seeing it a little bit more
Speaker 1: saucy seeing is that we're not seeing it on the
Speaker 1: main channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm unsure how true this is, but
Speaker 2: from what I heard, your Australians are a little more
Speaker 2: conservative than us Kiwi's here when it comes to broadcasting
Speaker 2: stuff on radio and on television. And I was quite disappointed,
Speaker 2: being like, oh, what, so we're going to have to
Speaker 2: create like a show for the most conservative audience so
Speaker 2: it plays out and then everyone else is just going
Speaker 2: to get that version. And then when they were saying,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's going straight to streaming, it means you
Speaker 2: don't have to fit it to an hour's TV. If
Speaker 2: you end up having an hour's tear an hour ten
Speaker 2: worth of great stuff, you don't have to cut that
Speaker 2: out to make it fit. So I think like that reason,
Speaker 2: and also just like you say, you can go. I
Speaker 2: remember sometimes stuff would happen on the show and we'd
Speaker 2: be like can we use that?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Even? Can you play that on TV? And I think
Speaker 2: we're still working out what platform it was going to
Speaker 2: end up on. Where we've landed where it goes straight
Speaker 2: to streaming, it's like, yeah, the gloves are off. It's
Speaker 2: almost like the wild West of TV, right, and you
Speaker 2: can you can put on whatever you like. Like even
Speaker 2: when I found out when I got a tour of
Speaker 2: the island and the resort and where the cast was
Speaker 2: staying before they flew in, and I just saw like cameras,
Speaker 2: like these cameras in the room, these cameras in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: The only place you could go was the toilet. That
Speaker 2: was the only place where you could go in the
Speaker 2: room and not be seen or heard even the outdoor shout,
Speaker 2: Like we covered everything, And I just thought, but surely,
Speaker 2: like a little bit, there's got to be some privacy,
Speaker 2: and I realized quite quickly it's like, no, you sign
Speaker 2: up to the show, and whatever happens, whatever you do,
Speaker 2: whatever you say, you're giving right to put on television.
Speaker 1: To give them no privacy. We love ruthless television. We
Speaker 1: love something new, which I think is part of the
Speaker 1: reason why I'm so excited about the show, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a part of the reason why people are
Speaker 1: going to tune in to watch it is because we
Speaker 1: are going to see something a little bit different. You know,
Speaker 1: the show will come down to what drives the decisions
Speaker 1: of the gen z. Is it money, loyalty, lust, or ego?
Speaker 1: What do you think out of those things, what do
Speaker 1: you think is get a rise to the top?
Speaker 2: I think I think for some people that changes the
Speaker 2: closer you actually get to the prize, and then you
Speaker 2: see people playing a lot harder because they go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: actually we could like in the beginning, it's fun, We're
Speaker 2: just there for an adventure. As you get further down,
Speaker 2: the competition really starts to ramp up, and we had
Speaker 2: like medics called into challenges because they started getting much
Speaker 2: more physical and some of the lands were really going
Speaker 2: at it, and I think that you sort of felt
Speaker 2: this sort of surge of these power couples starting to
Speaker 2: form and the money really being within the grasp. So
Speaker 2: in the beginning, everyone's just throwing it around and having fun,
Speaker 2: and that definitely you feel that change. Although there are
Speaker 2: some people that come in and they're just literally there
Speaker 2: for the money. I just think that's such a wasted
Speaker 2: opportunity coming on a show like this as well, where
Speaker 2: you just get real like it's about the money, when
Speaker 2: you've got once in a lifetime opportunity to be on
Speaker 2: a dating show like this, people from all around the
Speaker 2: world on a remote island. And I was going to
Speaker 2: ask you actually been being on Big Brother, Like what
Speaker 2: is it actually like when you're being filmed twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven all the time? Like do you ever because
Speaker 2: I never really chatted to the consistence in this way,
Speaker 2: like when you see me on camera with them, it's
Speaker 2: work right, and then as soon as it's cut, I'm
Speaker 2: out of it. And they try to keep that relationship
Speaker 2: I think separate for that reason. But do you ever
Speaker 2: get to a point where you just start forgetting that
Speaker 2: they're rolling or are you always aware of it?
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's it's a really interesting question, and
Speaker 1: I think it is different to every single person wants
Speaker 1: to take part of the show. I gave myself up
Speaker 1: to the social experiment of it. It took me weeks
Speaker 1: to forget about the cameras, but towards the end, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was in that show for nearly four months, so
Speaker 1: you know, ninety days is a very long time to
Speaker 1: be locked away. The only way it was going to
Speaker 1: work for me was to just be myself to forget
Speaker 1: about the production of it, which I did, which at
Speaker 1: the same time makes good television because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not in my head about what people are watching. I
Speaker 1: certainly wish that there was a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I didn't say and do. I'll give you that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's definitely some characters from things that
Speaker 2: I would hear that would happen where I think some
Speaker 2: are very calculated and very clever with what they say
Speaker 2: and how they cover their tracks. And then there are
Speaker 2: others which you love that you're just an open book
Speaker 2: and we'll just say whatever. They don't care, use it,
Speaker 2: don't use it. It's just them, right. And then you've
Speaker 2: got the other camp that are very sneaky and they
Speaker 2: would go. They realized that if they hopped in the
Speaker 2: pool where the waterfall was, they could get close enough
Speaker 2: where the waterfall would be loud enough against the mics
Speaker 2: that they could whisper and you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: pick up what they were saying. You'd hear these stories
Speaker 2: about how they were trying to I guess, trying to
Speaker 2: have their little private conversation and stuff on a show
Speaker 2: where you're like, well, that's not really how it works.
Speaker 2: So it's really interesting how different people navigate that type
Speaker 2: of environment where you are being filmed twenty four seven.
Speaker 2: And I think I'd be like, you just forget after
Speaker 2: a week, and then I'd end up looking back and
Speaker 2: regret it. Just a lot of things that I'd seen
Speaker 2: and done.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the thing, you know, if you
Speaker 1: tell people not to do something, they'll find out how
Speaker 1: to do it. And so I think in these sorts
Speaker 1: of shows, what makes these a great social experiment is
Speaker 1: just watching the way in which people try and get
Speaker 1: away with things, and at the end of the day
Speaker 1: we end up seeing it all anyway. You know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how hard you try, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well exactly, it's like, well, they don't realize is there's
Speaker 2: somebody else with a boom and there's another camera here
Speaker 2: in the air, and all I've got to do is
Speaker 2: get enough of an audio within They'll just subtitle you.
Speaker 1: You know, there's always a boom on a boom on
Speaker 1: a boom as far as I'm concerned when it comes
Speaker 1: to reality television, and good on them, Good on them.
Speaker 1: Was there a moment in this series though, that really
Speaker 1: blew your mind? I really want this as a bit
Speaker 1: of a tease in the audience they're going to watch
Speaker 1: the show. Is there a moment in this series that
Speaker 1: has stayed with you in your mind that you can
Speaker 1: let us know about getting too much away?
Speaker 2: So Jake, one of the Ossie Boys, he makes the decision.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to work out and TV land how early
Speaker 2: it would be, but it must be an episode like
Speaker 2: one or two where he makes a decision during the
Speaker 2: game that I was even unsure if he was allowed
Speaker 2: to do that. I was like, wait, is this part
Speaker 2: of the rules? But yeah, it just showed me. I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, the Aussies, the Ouzzie Boys are just
Speaker 2: here to play, have fun, mix it up and they
Speaker 2: don't care. And so Jake one of those guys. He
Speaker 2: was a really interesting character. And yeah, there's a movie
Speaker 2: makes during like a passion playing, where they get a
Speaker 2: chance to if they don't like who they're with, they
Speaker 2: can swap it up. So if say four out of
Speaker 2: the ten couples want to swap it up, then they'll
Speaker 2: all go into the passion play and then they'll they'll
Speaker 2: repick from those people who are all not too happy
Speaker 2: with their current partner. But Jake makes a decision quite
Speaker 2: early on that I think. I think that one decision
Speaker 2: like ends up costing a lot of other people's game
Speaker 2: and time on the island because that one decision he made.
Speaker 2: I remember talking about it being like if he hadn't
Speaker 2: done that, this person would still be here. That person
Speaker 2: would probably be gone, they would still be here. So
Speaker 2: that happens early on, and then we've got a couple
Speaker 2: of like shock call them in eliminations, but people leaving
Speaker 2: the show just completely out of the blue for reasons
Speaker 2: I won't get into, but you'll see it where you know,
Speaker 2: you just start really loving a character, and then we're
Speaker 2: always throwing twists as a show. They ended up throwing
Speaker 2: a few spammers in the works as well. Outside of
Speaker 2: their control. But it's just always sad when you've got
Speaker 2: a show and you've got these great characters and then
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, they just disappear out of the game,
Speaker 2: and their removal of the game impacts so many other
Speaker 2: people's situation. And I guess their strategy that they've sort
Speaker 2: of been working on, well.
Speaker 1: It all makes good television. I've been a little bit
Speaker 1: obsessed with you over the last couple of days leading
Speaker 1: up to this interview, so I've watched a back catalog
Speaker 1: of all of your work and I realized very quickly
Speaker 1: that you're kind of New Zealand's answer to Osher Ginsburg,
Speaker 1: because you've got that idol, You've been on the host
Speaker 1: of The Singer. There's so many comparisons to Osher Ginsburg,
Speaker 1: which made me think, have you ever met Osha And
Speaker 1: do you realize that you have an Australian version of yourself?
Speaker 2: Somebody's somebody said something to me about I mean, we
Speaker 2: get a lot of your shows here as well, right,
Speaker 2: so we get The Bachelor, and I've and so I
Speaker 2: know Asha from just watching him on TV. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he's busier than me. I'd like to be
Speaker 2: as busy as him. Over here and then I saw
Speaker 2: him doing I think he's doing a podcast or something,
Speaker 2: and I was like, huh, I got a couple of
Speaker 2: podcasts and worked in radio for over ten years before
Speaker 2: doing the TV thing, So if he's ever had enough
Speaker 2: of it, and I can work on my Australian accent, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm more than happy it's a short flight
Speaker 2: over to Aussie to try and pick up some of
Speaker 2: that slack if he's happy to let it go. I mean,
Speaker 2: even when we were doing on the Beach and I'm
Speaker 2: saying like this is Heartbreak Island Australia, I was like,
Speaker 2: do I how Australian do I make this? Is it
Speaker 2: like this is Heartbreak Island Australia. And then they were like, well,
Speaker 2: you don't talk Australian in the show, so that would
Speaker 2: be weird. I'm like, it's just softening, so it's not
Speaker 2: like bus is Heartbreak on Australia, you know. So I
Speaker 2: tried to sit somewhere in the middle where I'm not
Speaker 2: offending anyone, hopefully, or I offend everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure It's sounded a lot Kelsha Ginsberg with
Speaker 1: your Australian accent. Just then it made me laugh. I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. I'm definitely excited about the show.
Speaker 1: Something I ask everyone who joins the podcast, no matter
Speaker 1: what the show is, is what's something from behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that we won't see on the series, something of
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes secret of what you saw while
Speaker 1: working on Heartbreak Island Australia.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, behind the scenes. So I want to give
Speaker 2: you a good answer. I don't want to like finish
Speaker 2: this and then go, oh, what I should have done? Okay, No,
Speaker 2: I've got something for you while I pad it. One
Speaker 2: of the contestants that got eliminated from the show ended
Speaker 2: up trying because they have about one night's stay in
Speaker 2: their own beret. So two of them get eliminated. They
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like each other. If they do good for them,
Speaker 2: they've got a private night in beret with no cameras,
Speaker 2: then they'll get sent out the next day. One of
Speaker 2: them had such a love interest back still on the
Speaker 2: show that overnight left be rats and snuck at night
Speaker 2: into the other resort where we were filming and snuck
Speaker 2: back into the bedroom. Oh one of the cast members.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure whether I mean they'll have it
Speaker 2: on camera, but I don't know whether it will make
Speaker 2: sense to have it and the show that they come
Speaker 2: running back, but I know the security guards definitely made
Speaker 2: their money that night. So they found out in the
Speaker 2: morning they were running around in the dark trying to
Speaker 2: chase one of the Aussie boys who had been eliminated
Speaker 2: from the show and had tried to race back into
Speaker 2: the resort for one more goodbye. The PG way of
Speaker 2: putting it.
Speaker 1: The show is now called Restraining Order Restraining Order Island, Australia.
Speaker 2: And I tell you the hind security guy Junior. The
Speaker 2: name was ironic because it was nothing Junior about Junior.
Speaker 2: He's the last pierson on the Island that you wanted
Speaker 2: to miss.
Speaker 1: Will It was massive, mate, It was so fun to
Speaker 1: be able to have this chat with you. I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about the show. As I said, I've previewed quite
Speaker 1: a few episodes. It's I hope audiences get behind it
Speaker 1: because it is something a little bit different. But thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being able to come on TV
Speaker 1: reload and chat about the show.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks so much. I appreciate your time and having
Speaker 2: me on. And yeah, look forward to check it out
Speaker 2: and I hope people love it as much as
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, Thanks so much for your time,