WEBVTT - HEARTBREAK ISLAND IS WIN FOR HOST CLINT RANDELL

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week. Alight. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>plus the talent that we see on our screens. TV

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<v Speaker 1>streaming services today. On the podcast, I have New Zealand's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite TV personality, Clint Randell of Channel seven's brand new

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<v Speaker 1>dating show Heartbreak Island Australia, which launches this Thursday on

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<v Speaker 1>seven plus right across Australia and with less television guidelines

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<v Speaker 1>certain rules to obey when it comes to how saucy

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<v Speaker 1>they can go. You'd be forgiven for calling this Seven's

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<v Speaker 1>new steamy platform. Over the years, we have become accustomed

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<v Speaker 1>to our favorite dating shows on freeware television, but now

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<v Speaker 1>we have something new with a format that is designed

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<v Speaker 1>to see the contestants hook up, bust up and manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>their way toward cash. Prize that is one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>a tangible certainty. I'm sure they can still play out

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<v Speaker 1>their ill fated relationship journeys on their social media platforms

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<v Speaker 1>once the show ends, but having the cash will certainly

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<v Speaker 1>come in handy. Clint takes us behind the scenes, explains

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<v Speaker 1>some of the new exciting twists install and talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of privacy for the contestants. However, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>started with a sneak peek at the latest dating show

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. I'd like to welcome Clint Brandell to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those ones where you really have to

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<v Speaker 2>trust the partner that you're with. The search for your

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<v Speaker 2>ideal match, your true love can feel like an endless journey.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these people must do online dating, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>also awful. Were hopefully there is someone out there that

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<v Speaker 2>appreciates who I am. I remember some time and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>would happen on the show and we'd be like, can

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<v Speaker 2>we use that? I'm ready to find from girlfriend now?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you settle down, there are some people that

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<v Speaker 2>come in and they're just literally there for the money.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll have to flip fight. So when at all on

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<v Speaker 2>heartbreak Island. I always think like a great host will

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<v Speaker 2>bring out the drama, but we'll still let the contestants

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<v Speaker 2>drive the narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Clint, how are you thanks for having me on?

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<v Speaker 1>What an exciting new gig to host Heartbreak Island Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>How did this opportunity come about for you?

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<v Speaker 2>It was really random. I got like a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>like last year and it was from a guy Daryl,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I've got this TV show and I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if you want to host it? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it is? I can't really say that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you can come talk with me and all the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of it and we'll sign in NDIA. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>all very hush hush, and I'd hosted The Mask Singer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I guess what he had seen me on

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<v Speaker 2>and gone, I think it'd be great for this, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking maybe it's something like that, and then realized

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly we started talking about reality TV and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, it's nothing like the Mass Singer, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked in radio, so I guess there was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, you have relationships with strangers and

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<v Speaker 2>all those like relationship type things, and so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, and then I said to him is it

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<v Speaker 2>a heartbreak Island? And he goes, why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, because it's in your email signature like

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<v Speaker 2>the shots he had done. So the cat was out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bang early. But I mean they had me

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<v Speaker 2>when they said shooting in Fiji for two months and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got an international cast, a bunch of like Aussies, Kiwis, Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>Brits And I was like, this sounds already like it

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<v Speaker 2>has all the things for success. So I was like, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do I sign? Where do I sign it? Basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a dream job. You know, have you been a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of these sort of dating shows before.

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<v Speaker 2>Reality type shows? I mean I did really like Too

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<v Speaker 2>Hot to Handle just as a bit of a different

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<v Speaker 2>spin off from what is typically like a reality dating

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<v Speaker 2>show you try and hook up with as me as

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<v Speaker 2>you can. So that was probably the last one I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I watched. It was Too Hot to Handle

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing personal growth amongst all the throwing.

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<v Speaker 1>And about you know what about this series was different

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<v Speaker 1>to what we've seen before when it comes to young

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<v Speaker 1>people finding love on television.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think for starters from the old season

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<v Speaker 2>of Heartbreak Island and now opening it up to the

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<v Speaker 2>world and having well just having people from different countries.

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<v Speaker 2>They act differently in relationships. So even if you think

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<v Speaker 2>you've got really good game, you might have good game

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia, but you might not have great game when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the British girls because they're not used

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<v Speaker 2>to the laid back nature, you know, and maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>want someone who's really confident, which we might see as cocky,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So that was actually really cool seeing just

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<v Speaker 2>all the different mix of people coming together and dating

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<v Speaker 2>in their own ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the show involves what is called passion play,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like, like this is a title which involves

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<v Speaker 1>contestants being able to stray, stay or play. How does that?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you explain that to people who have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen this show?

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much if you're The thing I like about

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<v Speaker 2>this show is a reality dating show, is that there

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<v Speaker 2>are challenges involved, and if you win the challenge, you're immune.

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<v Speaker 2>So everyone's competing to try to win. If you lose,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going home, unless you've built up a relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else on the island where they're willing to throw

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<v Speaker 2>their partner under the bus and swap you out and

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<v Speaker 2>effectively they take your place going home on the next

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<v Speaker 2>ferry back to Nandy Airport and you end up recoupling

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<v Speaker 2>with them instead. So it's one of those ones where

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<v Speaker 2>you really have to trust the partner that you're with,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you think you can and you can't, then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, your bags are getting packed quite

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<v Speaker 2>quickly because you're getting swapped out for someone that they've

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<v Speaker 2>sneakily had their eye on. So you always see everyone

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<v Speaker 2>trying to work out a plan B or a Plan C,

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<v Speaker 2>so if they find themselves in trouble, they've almost got

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<v Speaker 2>like a backup and then a backup backup to try

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<v Speaker 2>and keep there are safe on the island effectively. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing I really like about this show

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<v Speaker 2>is that, yes, it has the relationships, but rather than hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just an entire hour of what's your type,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's your type on paper and what's your

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<v Speaker 2>and having them talk about it, it goes beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>where there is that competition element where you're always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to work out who you can trust. Are they in

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<v Speaker 2>it for the money or are they in it for love?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you find out quite quickly who's in

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<v Speaker 2>it for what and the ones that don't do a

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<v Speaker 2>good read on their partner, the ones that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get seen home quicker than they probably should have.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one wants to leave the island. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous Is it dangerous to mix a dating show

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<v Speaker 1>with challenges, money and love because it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like the New Big Brother here in Australia because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a real human element to this show, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with some survivor like challenges. How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think you're right when you start having

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<v Speaker 2>those relationships where you actually like a person or they're

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<v Speaker 2>a really nice person, and then you go, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>game is sort of designed at times to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit ruthless and maybe put yourself first. But then

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<v Speaker 2>you also, I would like to think these people on

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<v Speaker 2>the show know that they are being watched and the

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<v Speaker 2>type of person that you want people to think of

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<v Speaker 2>you as when you leave the show. So, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there's some questionable decisions and things app on the show

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<v Speaker 2>that I think, man, I would not have done that,

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<v Speaker 2>or you just you know, like sometimes the human and

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<v Speaker 2>you go, but that's not fair or that's not right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when you're on the show, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>every feeling is amplified because nothing else is going on

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<v Speaker 2>in the world except the show. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that doing Big Brother, right, it's like no phones and

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<v Speaker 2>this is everything. So if you're a little bit annoyed,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just absolutely fuming. And if you're someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>typically quite fluty, then you're probably full on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>full noise because this type of environment really heightens those types,

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<v Speaker 2>like it pulls out the little thing and your personality

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<v Speaker 2>and makes it like a massive thing. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, let's be really careful how hard you

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<v Speaker 2>play the game and how much you probably just think

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<v Speaker 2>about how the type of person you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>portrayed as on a show like this, where so many

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<v Speaker 2>people when they do a reality daty show, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think are thinking about that, which is probably great for

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love people who apply for these shows because

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<v Speaker 1>they go from zero to one hundred, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that makes great television. How important is

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<v Speaker 1>the casting of something like this? You know, what kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of characters can we expect to fall in love with

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this first series.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the casting is everything you can have, like

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<v Speaker 2>the world's greatest reality game. But if your cast aren't

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<v Speaker 2>just amazing to watch and don't have that thing about

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<v Speaker 2>them that just makes you go, I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 2>you'll say, oh, why do you love Ash so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Or why do you like Billy and they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just really like him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's where you want to be on a show

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<v Speaker 2>like this, where people just naturally gravitated towards you. But

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<v Speaker 2>there are some characters that like come in and I

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<v Speaker 2>always feel for the disruptors because I always thought coming

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<v Speaker 2>in as a disruptor generally on a reality day show

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<v Speaker 2>is the best place to be because you fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, the cantiness in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you come in and everyone's over the oldies

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<v Speaker 2>and you're the fresh meat and so you're the new plaything.

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<v Speaker 2>But so often, I think on the show, the core

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<v Speaker 2>group became so tight than anyone that came in. It

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like they were an enemy to their current situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you've got these incredible characters coming in and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the ones, the intruders that come in and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, this is going to be amazing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that gone as quickly as they showed up. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's heartbreaking excuse the pun as a viewer, because you've

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<v Speaker 2>got this new character that you love so much, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you just can't get attached to too quick because some

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<v Speaker 2>of them are just like in and then out, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is like ruthless in that respect that the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the island are playing that hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find it hard not to get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the drama. I've always thought hosting these sorts of shows

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<v Speaker 1>would be really stressful for me because I'm too opinionated.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd worry I'd get into the sand pit with the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly the same. And so you would ask a question,

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<v Speaker 2>they give you an answer and you knew was bas

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, why are you lying to me? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know you must know that I know that that

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<v Speaker 2>has or hasn't happened, because I'll get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of information behind the scenes as to what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm not privy to their evening hangouts and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you'd go a second time to try and

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<v Speaker 2>give them a chance to come clean that lie again

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be like, don't you know, like if that

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<v Speaker 2>motive was always like to go and try and get

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<v Speaker 2>the best drama out of them without overstepping that line

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm blowing up someone's game or manipulating it wants

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<v Speaker 2>or desires on where I want the show to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think, like a great host will bring out

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<v Speaker 2>the drama, but we'll still let the contestants drive the narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm giving them a chance to come clean

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe own their mistake, or I'm giving them a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to like call this person out, but if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't take it, well, then then that's up to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't like, they're not puppets, right, and I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>puppeteer making everything happen. I don't think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what people want to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you're a parent, so you're used to kids trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bamboozle you to a certain extent, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can work it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always like, lie to the like if you're on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, leaders, sure lie sheet and steal to the

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<v Speaker 2>people on the show, but don't give a lie down

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<v Speaker 2>the barrel to the camera, because that's the audience and

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<v Speaker 2>they know everything. They know when you're lying because they've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it all. So it's like you can light to

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<v Speaker 2>the cast, but don't lie to me, or don't light

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<v Speaker 2>of the camera because we know when you're lie, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get found out and you'll be that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>This show has this global feel to it, which you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which, while it still is Heartbreak Island Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>we are hearing American accents, New Zealand accent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the Australian accent. Do you think that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need a few international visas being set up at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this, I mean, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>get some long term relationships coming out of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because the ones that I thought were locked

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<v Speaker 2>in like quite early, and I was like, those two

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna make it like they're gonna be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always like one love story, Like generally it might

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<v Speaker 2>be two or three, but there's kind of one that

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<v Speaker 2>comes out of every show. We follow it for a

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<v Speaker 2>while and see how long it takes before it fizzles out.

0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I always got it wrong. It's like I was jinxing

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<v Speaker 2>them and the ones that I wouldn't expect or I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is it about those two that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of keep it together. But the thing I realized that

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<v Speaker 2>I was quite fascinated by it was in the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>the way we peer them up as based off their

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<v Speaker 2>online profiles. And I'd never done online dating before I

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<v Speaker 2>got married, long like quite young and long before that.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing to me that like everybody's first pick, they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stand within like twenty four or forty eight hours of choosing,

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<v Speaker 2>almost and everyone that really gravitated towards somebody eventually wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even in their top three. A lot of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all of these people must do online dating,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're also awful at it, like clearly in terms,

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<v Speaker 2>so you only get a few photos in a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a bio. But to miss your first book, your

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<v Speaker 2>second book, and your third pick and end up really

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<v Speaker 2>hitting it off to someone who wasn't even on your

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<v Speaker 2>radar was like baffling to me. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there might be some people watching the first Step and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, huh, maybe I need to like expand my

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<v Speaker 2>like age range or my location or my type and

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<v Speaker 2>think about like dating some other people because it works

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<v Speaker 2>for people on this show, and they definitely are some romances,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will say the out words definitely does get

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<v Speaker 2>dropped at least once or twice on the show, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, shocked life.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about watching people hook up and bust

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<v Speaker 1>up on television that excites us as an audience? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it makes us feel more normal about our

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<v Speaker 1>own relationships?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred? Is it being now on here where we

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<v Speaker 2>are going oh good? Other people don't have their lives

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<v Speaker 2>together either when it comes to relationships, and maybe seeing

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<v Speaker 2>them make mistakes makes us feel better about ours and

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that we make in our relationships. And also

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing maybe people take like a chance that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have the guts too, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you see somebody just shooting the shot and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, I wish I could do that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when it doesn't work out, you're like, see, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't do that, you know? So I think

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<v Speaker 2>we get to live curiously through some of these characters

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, and almost it's like that painting like

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<v Speaker 2>a roadmap with a number of didians. Sure, but like

0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a roadmap where you can go all right, So that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work, and that kind of does work. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we're subtly teaching ourselves how to date and watching a

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<v Speaker 2>show like this, there's probably more what not to do

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<v Speaker 2>than what off the back of it, But sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>just is important, right, But what not to do?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just yeah, I prefer to send the minions out

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<v Speaker 1>to do the wrong thing so that I can learn

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<v Speaker 1>from them as opposed to doing it myself. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the show for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Then you know the show launches here on seven plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know if we're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see more drama on a streaming platform, are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with seeing it a little bit more

0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.520
<v Speaker 1>saucy seeing is that we're not seeing it on the

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<v Speaker 1>main channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm unsure how true this is, but

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<v Speaker 2>from what I heard, your Australians are a little more

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<v Speaker 2>conservative than us Kiwi's here when it comes to broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on radio and on television. And I was quite disappointed,

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, what, so we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>create like a show for the most conservative audience so

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<v Speaker 2>it plays out and then everyone else is just going

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<v Speaker 2>to get that version. And then when they were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, it's going straight to streaming, it means you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to fit it to an hour's TV. If

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<v Speaker 2>you end up having an hour's tear an hour ten

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<v Speaker 2>worth of great stuff, you don't have to cut that

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<v Speaker 2>out to make it fit. So I think like that reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and also just like you say, you can go. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember sometimes stuff would happen on the show and we'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like can we use that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Even? Can you play that on TV? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're still working out what platform it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>end up on. Where we've landed where it goes straight

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<v Speaker 2>to streaming, it's like, yeah, the gloves are off. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like the wild West of TV, right, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can you can put on whatever you like. Like even

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<v Speaker 2>when I found out when I got a tour of

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<v Speaker 2>the island and the resort and where the cast was

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<v Speaker 2>staying before they flew in, and I just saw like cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>like these cameras in the room, these cameras in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>The only place you could go was the toilet. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the only place where you could go in the

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<v Speaker 2>room and not be seen or heard even the outdoor shout,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we covered everything, And I just thought, but surely,

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit, there's got to be some privacy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I realized quite quickly it's like, no, you sign

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<v Speaker 2>up to the show, and whatever happens, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you say, you're giving right to put on television.

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<v Speaker 1>To give them no privacy. We love ruthless television. We

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<v Speaker 1>love something new, which I think is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I'm so excited about the show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a part of the reason why people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to tune in to watch it is because we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to see something a little bit different. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the show will come down to what drives the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>of the gen z. Is it money, loyalty, lust, or ego?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think out of those things, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is get a rise to the top?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think for some people that changes the

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<v Speaker 2>closer you actually get to the prize, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>see people playing a lot harder because they go, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually we could like in the beginning, it's fun, We're

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<v Speaker 2>just there for an adventure. As you get further down,

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<v Speaker 2>the competition really starts to ramp up, and we had

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<v Speaker 2>like medics called into challenges because they started getting much

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<v Speaker 2>more physical and some of the lands were really going

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<v Speaker 2>at it, and I think that you sort of felt

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of surge of these power couples starting to

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<v Speaker 2>form and the money really being within the grasp. So

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, everyone's just throwing it around and having fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and that definitely you feel that change. Although there are

0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.280
<v Speaker 2>some people that come in and they're just literally there

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<v Speaker 2>for the money. I just think that's such a wasted

0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>opportunity coming on a show like this as well, where

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<v Speaker 2>you just get real like it's about the money, when

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<v Speaker 2>you've got once in a lifetime opportunity to be on

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<v Speaker 2>a dating show like this, people from all around the

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<v Speaker 2>world on a remote island. And I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you actually been being on Big Brother, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>is it actually like when you're being filmed twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven all the time? Like do you ever because

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<v Speaker 2>I never really chatted to the consistence in this way,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you see me on camera with them, it's

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<v Speaker 2>work right, and then as soon as it's cut, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. And they try to keep that relationship

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I think separate for that reason. But do you ever

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<v Speaker 2>get to a point where you just start forgetting that

0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.120
<v Speaker 2>they're rolling or are you always aware of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think it's it's a really interesting question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is different to every single person wants

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<v Speaker 1>to take part of the show. I gave myself up

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<v Speaker 1>to the social experiment of it. It took me weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to forget about the cameras, but towards the end, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in that show for nearly four months, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ninety days is a very long time to

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<v Speaker 1>be locked away. The only way it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>work for me was to just be myself to forget

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<v Speaker 1>about the production of it, which I did, which at

0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the same time makes good television because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in my head about what people are watching. I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly wish that there was a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say and do. I'll give you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's definitely some characters from things that

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<v Speaker 2>I would hear that would happen where I think some

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<v Speaker 2>are very calculated and very clever with what they say

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<v Speaker 2>and how they cover their tracks. And then there are

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 2>others which you love that you're just an open book

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.479
<v Speaker 2>and we'll just say whatever. They don't care, use it,

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 2>don't use it. It's just them, right. And then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the other camp that are very sneaky and they

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.240
<v Speaker 2>would go. They realized that if they hopped in the

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 2>pool where the waterfall was, they could get close enough

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.840
<v Speaker 2>where the waterfall would be loud enough against the mics

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that they could whisper and you wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up what they were saying. You'd hear these stories

0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.920
<v Speaker 2>about how they were trying to I guess, trying to

0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 2>have their little private conversation and stuff on a show

0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.359
<v Speaker 2>where you're like, well, that's not really how it works.

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:52.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's really interesting how different people navigate that type

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>of environment where you are being filmed twenty four seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I'd be like, you just forget after

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<v Speaker 2>a week, and then I'd end up looking back and

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 2>regret it. Just a lot of things that I'd seen

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<v Speaker 2>and done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is the thing, you know, if you

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.479
<v Speaker 1>tell people not to do something, they'll find out how

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to do it. And so I think in these sorts

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of shows, what makes these a great social experiment is

0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just watching the way in which people try and get

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<v Speaker 1>away with things, and at the end of the day

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.919
<v Speaker 1>we end up seeing it all anyway. You know, it

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how hard you try, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well exactly, it's like, well, they don't realize is there's

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>somebody else with a boom and there's another camera here

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.159
<v Speaker 2>in the air, and all I've got to do is

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<v Speaker 2>get enough of an audio within They'll just subtitle you.

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's always a boom on a boom on

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a boom as far as I'm concerned when it comes

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to reality television, and good on them, Good on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a moment in this series though, that really

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:41.959
<v Speaker 1>blew your mind? I really want this as a bit

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of a tease in the audience they're going to watch

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the show. Is there a moment in this series that

0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.439
<v Speaker 1>has stayed with you in your mind that you can

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>let us know about getting too much away?

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 2>So Jake, one of the Ossie Boys, he makes the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to work out and TV land how early

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.679
<v Speaker 2>it would be, but it must be an episode like

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.199
<v Speaker 2>one or two where he makes a decision during the

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>game that I was even unsure if he was allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. I was like, wait, is this part

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<v Speaker 2>of the rules? But yeah, it just showed me. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, the Aussies, the Ouzzie Boys are just

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<v Speaker 2>here to play, have fun, mix it up and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. And so Jake one of those guys. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a really interesting character. And yeah, there's a movie

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 2>makes during like a passion playing, where they get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to if they don't like who they're with, they

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>can swap it up. So if say four out of

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the ten couples want to swap it up, then they'll

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<v Speaker 2>all go into the passion play and then they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 2>repick from those people who are all not too happy

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<v Speaker 2>with their current partner. But Jake makes a decision quite

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<v Speaker 2>early on that I think. I think that one decision

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<v Speaker 2>like ends up costing a lot of other people's game

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<v Speaker 2>and time on the island because that one decision he made.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember talking about it being like if he hadn't

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 2>done that, this person would still be here. That person

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>would probably be gone, they would still be here. So

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<v Speaker 2>that happens early on, and then we've got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of like shock call them in eliminations, but people leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the show just completely out of the blue for reasons

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<v Speaker 2>I won't get into, but you'll see it where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just start really loving a character, and then we're

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 2>always throwing twists as a show. They ended up throwing

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<v Speaker 2>a few spammers in the works as well. Outside of

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<v Speaker 2>their control. But it's just always sad when you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a show and you've got these great characters and then

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, they just disappear out of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and their removal of the game impacts so many other

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>people's situation. And I guess their strategy that they've sort

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<v Speaker 2>of been working on, well.

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<v Speaker 1>It all makes good television. I've been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with you over the last couple of days leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to this interview, so I've watched a back catalog

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<v Speaker 1>of all of your work and I realized very quickly

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that you're kind of New Zealand's answer to Osher Ginsburg,

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got that idol, You've been on the host

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<v Speaker 1>of The Singer. There's so many comparisons to Osher Ginsburg,

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<v Speaker 1>which made me think, have you ever met Osha And

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<v Speaker 1>do you realize that you have an Australian version of yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's somebody said something to me about I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of your shows here as well, right,

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 2>so we get The Bachelor, and I've and so I

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 2>know Asha from just watching him on TV. I mean,

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I think he's busier than me. I'd like to be

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 2>as busy as him. Over here and then I saw

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>him doing I think he's doing a podcast or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, huh, I got a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts and worked in radio for over ten years before

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>doing the TV thing, So if he's ever had enough

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of it, and I can work on my Australian accent, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm more than happy it's a short flight

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<v Speaker 2>over to Aussie to try and pick up some of

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that slack if he's happy to let it go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even when we were doing on the Beach and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying like this is Heartbreak Island Australia, I was like,

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 2>do I how Australian do I make this? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>like this is Heartbreak Island Australia. And then they were like, well,

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>you don't talk Australian in the show, so that would

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 2>be weird. I'm like, it's just softening, so it's not

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 2>like bus is Heartbreak on Australia, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to sit somewhere in the middle where I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>offending anyone, hopefully, or I offend everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure It's sounded a lot Kelsha Ginsberg with

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>your Australian accent. Just then it made me laugh. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was great. I'm definitely excited about the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I ask everyone who joins the podcast, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what the show is, is what's something from behind the

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>scenes that we won't see on the series, something of

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a behind the scenes secret of what you saw while

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<v Speaker 1>working on Heartbreak Island Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, behind the scenes. So I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a good answer. I don't want to like finish

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<v Speaker 2>this and then go, oh, what I should have done? Okay, No,

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got something for you while I pad it. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the contestants that got eliminated from the show ended

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 2>up trying because they have about one night's stay in

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 2>their own beret. So two of them get eliminated. They

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily like each other. If they do good for them,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 2>they've got a private night in beret with no cameras,

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>then they'll get sent out the next day. One of

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>them had such a love interest back still on the

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 2>show that overnight left be rats and snuck at night

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>into the other resort where we were filming and snuck

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>back into the bedroom. Oh one of the cast members.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure whether I mean they'll have it

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<v Speaker 2>on camera, but I don't know whether it will make

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 2>sense to have it and the show that they come

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 2>running back, but I know the security guards definitely made

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 2>their money that night. So they found out in the

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>morning they were running around in the dark trying to

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 2>chase one of the Aussie boys who had been eliminated

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>from the show and had tried to race back into

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the resort for one more goodbye. The PG way of

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<v Speaker 2>putting it.

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<v Speaker 1>The show is now called Restraining Order Restraining Order Island, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell you the hind security guy Junior. The

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>name was ironic because it was nothing Junior about Junior.

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 2>He's the last pierson on the Island that you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Will It was massive, mate, It was so fun to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have this chat with you. I'm really

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>excited about the show. As I said, I've previewed quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few episodes. It's I hope audiences get behind it

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>because it is something a little bit different. But thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for being able to come on TV

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<v Speaker 1>reload and chat about the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks so much. I appreciate your time and having

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<v Speaker 2>me on. And yeah, look forward to check it out

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope people love it as much as

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing, Thanks so much for your time,