WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Talk dirty to me

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is recorded on Gaddigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura and I'm producer Keisha filling in for brit

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<v Speaker 3>We just had a discussion because Keysh tried to introduce

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<v Speaker 3>herself as just Keisha and I was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be producer Keisha in case people are thrown

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<v Speaker 3>into turmoil and confused and don't know who this new

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<v Speaker 3>voice is on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>True, true, But I did in defense of myself, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that's not my actual People have started calling

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<v Speaker 2>me that in real life, like at the live show

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<v Speaker 2>that happened produce a key shot and I was like, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's your Like your second name is Keysha and

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<v Speaker 2>your first name is producer. Yeah, like it's my character.

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Do you know what? I know that you

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<v Speaker 3>think that maybe that's offensive, but like think of it offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's a little odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, you could think of it as though it's an accolade,

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<v Speaker 3>like doctors go around and say I'm doctor so and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you've got that at the front of your name,

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<v Speaker 3>you use it into the day you die.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One time I was dating a doctor and

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<v Speaker 2>I got us ticks all right to settle down. I

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<v Speaker 2>got his plane tickets, like for a holiday, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was really annoyed about the fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>He had the better Like, is it a suffix? The

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<v Speaker 3>thing a prefix?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the thing that goes at the start? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Missed a missus? Doctor? The thing you tick? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, stuff him having the better one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be miss one's doctor. Aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>still miss? What is a miss? Are you missed when

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a relationship but you're not married. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>a miss then? I'm not sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you are you a miss if you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>people to know if you're a missus or a miss?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean a live giggle?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Answer. A title used before the surname or full name

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<v Speaker 2>of any woman, regardless of her marital status. So it's neutral,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can pick so it's an alternative to missus

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<v Speaker 2>or miss see.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, if you don't want anyone to know if

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<v Speaker 3>you are married or aren't married, you become a miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that day I was a captain, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>found out that that is illegal, so I do not

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<v Speaker 2>recommend doing it. But for that plane ride, I was

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Kisha bed and you know what, I really I

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<v Speaker 2>really liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you lie about your status, like if you

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<v Speaker 3>call yourself a doctor and you're on a plane, that's illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it would make sense because obviously if there's an

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<v Speaker 3>emergency or somebody carts it in the picked captain because

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<v Speaker 3>I was like the plane with the planes falling down

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, Captain, I would have told him it

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<v Speaker 3>was for boats, Slane, don't worry, I'm Canada of a boat.

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<v Speaker 2>But as it turns out, yeah, no, it's illegal. However,

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<v Speaker 2>did enjoy the experience so well?

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<v Speaker 3>When producer comes up as an option for you to

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<v Speaker 3>select the next time you're on a flight, that is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the box that you can stay in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to get out of the miss box.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. The reason why Keysh is feeling on today's episode

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<v Speaker 3>is because Britt is currently away at her sister Sherry's wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Sherry's having two weddings. The first one was on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the Indian wedding, and then today is her

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<v Speaker 3>not Indian wedding. I don't know how else you'd described that.

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<v Speaker 3>Today is like, is the big wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they call it a white wedding, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is not cultural. It's actually like you know that song,

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nice day for a white wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's called it. If it's not, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>cut this out.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you wear a white dress, whereas on Tuesday she

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<v Speaker 3>was wearing a sari and we saw the beautiful Sarry photos.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen them look more beautiful. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know enough about Indian weddings. I'm so intrigued to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from britt when she gets back about the cultural practices

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<v Speaker 2>they do for the wedding, because I know it's really different.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they look so different, like there's so much color

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<v Speaker 2>and it just looks like so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>What I would like to know is where is Jay though,

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<v Speaker 3>because I've seen a lot of photos on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen photos of Brittain a sari. I've seen photos

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<v Speaker 3>of Sherry and a Sari, but I haven't yet seen

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<v Speaker 3>the husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Britt's like, you know what, I'm not gonna get married

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon, so this is my wedding too. It's man

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<v Speaker 2>in Cherry's wedding. But they looked so insanely stunning.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get into answering all your deep dark and

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<v Speaker 3>you're burning queesquestions, there was something that we wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>You might remember a couple of weeks ago on an

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<v Speaker 3>Ask Guncut episode, somebody had written in about dirty talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Now their new partner had started using some dirty talk

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<v Speaker 3>and they weren't sure if they should be or shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be offended, and it went something like this, you are

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<v Speaker 3>a chubby little wore. And let me tell you a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who heard that episode were very offended.

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<v Speaker 3>But the big question was this, was the person who

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<v Speaker 3>wrote in offended because they were called chubby? Or were

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<v Speaker 3>they offended because they were called ahow? And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we wanted to seek out. So we put up some socials.

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<v Speaker 3>We asked the question, what is it that you enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>being called in the bedroom?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Where can that line be drawn?

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<v Speaker 2>And some of The.

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<v Speaker 3>Responses we got were truly fucking amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were, and I really regretted not putting Jason Drulo

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<v Speaker 2>talk Dirty to Me as the backing song of this

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram story.

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<v Speaker 3>What a wasted opportunity. The just would have got things going.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I did bring these responses to you the this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would like to read some out to you

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<v Speaker 2>and you can tell me where the line is.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, okay, this is what happened. Keisha prepped. She

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<v Speaker 3>was like, here are all the responses from all of

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<v Speaker 3>our amazing listeners. We asked, what dirty talk do you

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<v Speaker 3>like hearing in the bedroom? And let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>You provided and they are dirty little bitch you dirty

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<v Speaker 3>little whores. And I know that you're gonna like me

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<v Speaker 3>calling you that because you told me this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We read through some of them. The way that we

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<v Speaker 3>would normally do these segments is that we would read

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<v Speaker 3>out to you some of the craziest things.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them are so.

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<v Speaker 3>Smushy that I'm worried that our more like PGG rated

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<v Speaker 3>listeners would turn this episode off because they don't like

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<v Speaker 3>the dirty talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I reckon you'd be fun like I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who wrote this it would be really good

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<v Speaker 2>to go get a drink with.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, But also they're like, they're very normal vein. They're

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<v Speaker 3>things like and I'm gonna just I'm going to brush

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<v Speaker 3>through a couple of them very quickly, just to give

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<v Speaker 3>you a taste of what some people are enjoying in

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<v Speaker 3>the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Really enjoying your body language. Right now, I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're mildly uncomfortable, and I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>cause i'm in your employee.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on my cock? Was that too much? Do we

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<v Speaker 3>need a hr? Is that where we're at? Okay? Cool

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<v Speaker 3>wine and I'll take two steps back. Sorry, Do I

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<v Speaker 3>need to say it more sexy? Will you come on

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<v Speaker 3>my cock?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? You had a nice ASMR voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you so much. Look, No, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to read out the more like smuttier ones,

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<v Speaker 3>the more dirty of the dirtier talk. And that's just

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<v Speaker 3>because I understand that there'll be some people who don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear that. But one thing that we did

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<v Speaker 3>find really interesting that we wanted to unpack was that

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<v Speaker 3>there was one type of dirty talk that kept on

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<v Speaker 3>coming in and like it's not particularly dirty but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a common theme that we received hundreds and hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>times from you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like being called good girls. As it turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, see the one that I always think and like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a bit of an expansion on good girl.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good little girl. And I don't know why that

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<v Speaker 3>one always got me off daddy issues. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what it is. I don't like to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet good Girl came in like hundreds and hundreds of times,

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<v Speaker 2>and this thing came up in the responses that I

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<v Speaker 2>was really intrigued by.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I hadn't heard of it before. It's called a.

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<v Speaker 2>Praise kink, now, a praise kink with someone who thrives

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<v Speaker 2>to be praised during intimacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't we all like compliments all the time. Anyway, though,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm not surprising, it goes a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit further than that. So it kind of explained how

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<v Speaker 2>it was a little bit more of a sexual turn

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<v Speaker 2>on rather than just like a oh that feels nice,

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<v Speaker 2>like your hair looks good. You know, it's not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Examples are things like and I want you to look

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<v Speaker 2>me deeply. I say this slow even you look.

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<v Speaker 3>So good, baby, you feel so good. This is really inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>Good good, Yeah, good girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You like that? Huh? You like that, don't you. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some questions for you to determine whether you

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<v Speaker 2>have a praisekink or not, or whether you think you might.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a sexual submissive, dominant or otherwise kink

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<v Speaker 2>based response to receiving praise, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty long winded and like professional way to say, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have sexual arousal when you're being told like praise?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like so many people would have this though,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know the fact that they've done this research

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<v Speaker 3>into like what questions you need to ask yourself For me,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is probably the most common one,

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<v Speaker 3>like being told like you're a good little girl or

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<v Speaker 3>you're a good girl. I don't know why we like

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy the submissive part of that or we enjoy like

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<v Speaker 3>having that positive affirmation, but there's something about that that

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<v Speaker 3>is very fucking sexy. Yeah, and I agree, tell me

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<v Speaker 3>what you really think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of sex with people that wasn't even loving sex,

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<v Speaker 2>but when it's happened, like yeah, yeah, nipples.

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<v Speaker 3>Are hard, like let's go, Okay, my other question, too,

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<v Speaker 3>is before you get down the list of the criteria

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<v Speaker 3>to know whether you have a praise kink or not,

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<v Speaker 3>what is your one dirty talk? Like, what's the big

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<v Speaker 3>thing that if someone was gonna say it to you,

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<v Speaker 3>it would mean O town a.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like, yeah, along the good girl lines would definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think being implemented you look so hot or along

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<v Speaker 2>those lines that would definitely get me going.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think, oh god, this is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm more into the question answer style of

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<v Speaker 2>like do you like that? And then I get to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them how much I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we're really taking this relationship to a

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<v Speaker 3>new place.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really getting red patches on my chest.

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<v Speaker 3>You should see it, Like as Keisha's speaking literally from

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<v Speaker 3>her nipples up, She's just gone red popping.

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<v Speaker 2>Through my top. I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's a bonding experience. This is close.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a shame BRIT's not here.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a one question to ask you. When you

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<v Speaker 2>think back on your hottest sex scenes, do the complimentary

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<v Speaker 2>things your partner said to you stand out as one

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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite parts.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know I feel for me as much as

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<v Speaker 3>I like it and enjoy it it's dependent on the

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<v Speaker 3>person that I'm with. Like, I quite enjoy a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of I mean, I don't mind a praise, can I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind a bit of dirty talk. But I also

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<v Speaker 3>think it has to be with someone who I've had

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<v Speaker 3>a bit more of a long term relationship with, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than it being a one night stand, or rather than

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<v Speaker 3>it being something that's a fling. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>need to be in safe territory in order to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, it's not just something I enjoy across

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<v Speaker 3>the board.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that makes complete sense, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about more like potentially smuttier, dirtier dirty talk. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably not gonna have that with a one night

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<v Speaker 2>stand as much as you'd have with someone that like,

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<v Speaker 2>you love and respect, and you know that they do

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<v Speaker 2>respect you, So that's why it's more okay for them

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<v Speaker 2>to call you certain things, whereas someone that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know you might not feel.

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<v Speaker 3>That way about. Well exactly because like if somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>you know respects you calls you a whole, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't mean that. But if it's someone who's a

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<v Speaker 3>one night stand and they're like, you're a whole you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you might actually think that of me? And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I don't know what we're role playing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>or if.

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<v Speaker 2>This is real, to rethink my behavior, what would be like?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you I mean? Oh, I'm personal? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you like?

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<v Speaker 3>Good little girl? That's it. I'm their eye a bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well no there's more, but like, no, we're not sharing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, no, no, that's enough. Anyway, let's get into

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<v Speaker 3>answering all your deep dark and you're burning questions. I

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<v Speaker 3>will just.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickly add that one more thing. Is that equal to

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of good girl responses we got? I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think that there were almost as many I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>it responses. That was very interesting to me. There were

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<v Speaker 2>people who were just like, I don't like dirty talk

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<v Speaker 2>are all? I hate it when people do that, And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's kind of the flip side of the coin.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, do you know why? Because I think

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<v Speaker 3>unless you're someone who's really confident and comfortable with dor't

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<v Speaker 3>it Like not everybody is comfortable with verbalizing, Like we

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<v Speaker 3>love talking. We talk so much, it's no surprise that

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<v Speaker 3>we would enjoy it. But for some people who were

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<v Speaker 3>maybe slightly more introverted. Having to verbalize how they're feeling

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<v Speaker 3>or what that sensation is or how much they like

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<v Speaker 3>something just takes it into awkward or intimidating territory rather

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<v Speaker 3>than it being something that they find is expressive. So

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<v Speaker 3>I can completely understand why there's people who when someone's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you like that, they're like, yes, I suppose five styles

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<v Speaker 3>and uber I wasn't ntil you asked me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's like for some people, it's fucking awkward. Get it?

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<v Speaker 3>And I get that there's both sides of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we can sit here and be like, yes, dirty

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<v Speaker 3>talk's amazing, and here are all the different ways that

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<v Speaker 3>people enjoy it, but they're equally a people who do

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<v Speaker 3>not enjoy it at all, and they just want to

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<v Speaker 3>like show their enthusiasm through other means. Do you reckon

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<v Speaker 3>you could give.

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty talk like because we're talking mostly about receiving it here,

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<v Speaker 2>which no, I'm completely comfortable. If I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that comfortable giving it, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know what I would say, like, I mean, apart

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<v Speaker 3>from like you're so hard. That feels so good, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that I am very much.

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<v Speaker 2>A regular on that that feels really good.

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<v Speaker 3>That you feel so good, you feel so hard. That's

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<v Speaker 3>literally that's the end of it. Because I think think

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<v Speaker 3>for me as well. Then I get awkward. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how can I be creative with this? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a girl and you enjoy giving dirty talk,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to know those responses as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think some people misunderstood the brief because we actually

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<v Speaker 2>dig it. A couple of responses and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you like calling people dirty, as it turns out, are

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<v Speaker 2>you like calling Matt daddy?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, even if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it softly and slowly, no, because he actually is

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<v Speaker 2>a daddy, So for me, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got two kids, he is a daddy. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>my daddy, but he's their daddy, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to think of them when we're having sex. Also, they

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<v Speaker 3>have destroyed my vagina enough that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be even thinking about them remotely whilst we're having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>You and nobody's daddy. You're mine.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Let's seriously get into these questions. Question number one, Hi, Oh, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what I'm just going to preface this.

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<v Speaker 3>These questions are all fucking saucy today, ladies, I need help.

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<v Speaker 3>I caught some pawn on my partner's phone. Accidental find.

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<v Speaker 3>He was watching me use his phone, no spying needed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very mad about it. The backstory is is that

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<v Speaker 3>I've caught him watching porn before and wanking, and it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't sit well with me. He has disrespected my wishes

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<v Speaker 3>and feelings as he has done it again. He thinks

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<v Speaker 3>I'm being over the top and apologized, but how do

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<v Speaker 3>I know that he won't do it again? Basically, she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want him to watch porn and wake. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we've taken two steps back in the relationship. Bound

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<v Speaker 3>bump boum.

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<v Speaker 2>I have something to say to her that I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she's gonna like. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>can control someone like that. I think your behavior is

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<v Speaker 2>really controlling. Oh unleash Keisha.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's produced a Keisha giving you the four one one?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's because of the four one one?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what it's called?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that pot that's four twenty ah fuck for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty blazer. It's been a while, Homer talk. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>that I think it's a bit of a controlling behavior

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<v Speaker 2>is because I mean Obviously there are elements to this.

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<v Speaker 2>If the person that you're with is watching porn so

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<v Speaker 2>much to the length that you know they're not having

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<v Speaker 2>sex with you, or that it's interfering with your sex life,

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<v Speaker 2>then yes, I understand that's a problem and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk about that, But if it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>the occasional having a look at porn and masturbating, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's entitled to do that, totally, I don't see a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it's kinite strange when so

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<v Speaker 2>many people get so hung up on porn because they

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<v Speaker 2>think it's this like really debautuous thing where it's really

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<v Speaker 2>wrong that they don't want their partners watching it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like a level of self expression

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<v Speaker 2>in sexuality, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a few layers to It's o that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't like it, you know, that's fine. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay for you personally not to like something right

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<v Speaker 3>like porn. If you are against it, that is okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think that we can say that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>should love porn, because it's just not the case. Not

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<v Speaker 3>everybody will. The part about this I think is a

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<v Speaker 3>bit problematic is like if your partner is watching something

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<v Speaker 3>that's like, you know, consensually made porn. It's not porn

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<v Speaker 3>that's problematic. It's not porn that's like violent or in

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<v Speaker 3>any way confrontational. I guess, because, like you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that there is some porn that can be quite

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<v Speaker 3>confronting to watch, and then maybe that would make you

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<v Speaker 3>feel insecure because you're like, well, is that what he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do in real life? Like how does this

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<v Speaker 3>play out? Where is the line between fantasy and fiction

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<v Speaker 3>and all that sort of stuff. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>there is that part of it to consider and unpack

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself. But I don't think that we can impose

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<v Speaker 3>our beliefs and what we want for ourselves on our partners.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if your partner wants to watch porn and he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to masturbate, you cannot say you can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>All you can do is say I don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>with this, like I don't like it when you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it when you watch porn. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they say, well, I'm going to do it anyway, then

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<v Speaker 3>it's up to you whether you want to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship with someone who does that or doesn't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>because ultimately, I would say that the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 3>people do watch porn and do masturbate. And I also

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<v Speaker 3>think you need to kind of like separate the two.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a problem with your partner masturbating without

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<v Speaker 3>you there? Like is that part of this? Because if

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<v Speaker 3>that is a problem for you, then I think that

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<v Speaker 3>that's a much bigger thing for you to unpack. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>your partner has full agency over his own body. He's

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to masturbate whenever the fuck he wants to. He

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't need to ask for permission to pleasure himself. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to be there every time he does it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a reflection of you not doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a reflection that he doesn't love you. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you just need a white case.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think that that's a massive part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like that, it's not a reflection that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>love you. So reassure yourself with that. Him watching porn

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that he doesn't find you sexy. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that he doesn't find your sex life great, that

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't care about you and love you and want

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<v Speaker 2>to continue having sex with you. It's not like it

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<v Speaker 2>takes away from that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the other part of this as well is

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<v Speaker 3>is that if you tell your partner that they can't

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<v Speaker 3>do something right, like if you say you can't watch

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<v Speaker 3>porn and you can't masturbate, and you make that such

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<v Speaker 3>an issue in the relationship like that, there's an ultimatum

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<v Speaker 3>that surrounds it. It doesn't mean that they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>stop doing it. They're just going to continue to do

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<v Speaker 3>it behind your back. And if they think that you

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<v Speaker 3>are overreacting about it, or it's not a space where

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<v Speaker 3>they can have a conversation with you about it, they

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<v Speaker 3>will hide that from you. Not because they want to

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<v Speaker 3>appease you or because they agree with you, but because

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to avoid the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to avoid the shame that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make them feel for doing something that I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot like most people watch porn totally, and especially most guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I think that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>some people who listen to this who don't agree with us,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's okay. There's going to be some people who

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<v Speaker 3>listen to this who do not want their partners to

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<v Speaker 3>watch porn, who don't want their partners to masturbate and

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<v Speaker 3>actually know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not allowed in some religions as well. So if

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<v Speaker 2>that's a facet of like the religious situation that the

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<v Speaker 2>two of you have agreed to, then my advice in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation would be very different, because if that's something

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<v Speaker 2>in your belief system, then that brings in a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other level of Okay, we've agreed to go buy these

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<v Speaker 2>rules and you're not following it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that that's such an important point

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<v Speaker 3>to make. But I think if it just comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to controlling your partner because of your own insecurities around it,

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<v Speaker 3>then that's quite an unfair expectation to set in the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And all that that's going to do is create an

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<v Speaker 3>ultimatum where either they're going to do it behind your

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<v Speaker 3>back or you have to leave because they're not actually

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<v Speaker 3>doing anything wrong by watching a bit of porn that is, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, correctly made porn and masturbating. There's so many

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<v Speaker 3>rules in life like let someone fucking masturbate, just let

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<v Speaker 3>him let him have a wink, also gives you a

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<v Speaker 3>note off fuck win Wind. Anyway, Question number two. I

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<v Speaker 3>just wants to be telling she's a good girl. You're

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<v Speaker 3>doing a good job. You're a good little girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two, So I have been diagnosed with breast

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<v Speaker 2>cancer at thirty two fun times. Firstly, so sad. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry, really sorry that you're having to go through that.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is online dating. It's tough already, but being

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<v Speaker 2>baald makes it a whole new ball game. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if I need to tell my matches that I'm bald

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<v Speaker 2>and going through chemo. I've tested it on one guy

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<v Speaker 2>and told him I'm going through breast cancer, but left

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<v Speaker 2>out the bald part. He was lovely about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>now I've noticed he's making these sly comments like how's

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<v Speaker 2>the sexy blonde going today? Or hey blondie. I just responded,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm thinking these comments are a sly way to

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<v Speaker 2>find out if I have hair and they don't. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have a human hair wig that looks natural. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I should be warning people before meeting them.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I false advertising?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? This is so shit. I'm so sorry that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going through this. No, you're not false advertising. You can

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<v Speaker 3>wear a wig and you can do whatever the fuck

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 3>you want to. You don't owe anybody anything, and I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, go and date. Dating can be casual and

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 3>there's no commitment there, and if it's you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>in a period of your life where you feel self

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<v Speaker 3>conscious about the fact that you have lost your hair

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<v Speaker 3>because of chemo. You don't have to have that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with anyone until a point where maybe you are going

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<v Speaker 3>to become sexual with them or things are progressing, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, well, the situation is probably gonna rise where

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to see me without hair, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>can make a decision of what they want to do.

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 3>And if they choose that they don't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>with you because at this point in time, for a

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<v Speaker 3>short period of time, you're going to have no hair,

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<v Speaker 3>then they're a fucking pretty useless person. I would say, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I actually asked my housemate, who is a straight man,

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<v Speaker 2>this question last night, because you know, he used to

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<v Speaker 2>use apps. He's in a relationship now, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you have felt about this scenario? And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that anyone who would react badly to that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being told, oh, hey, by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going through chemo, blah blah blah. There might be a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of different things about how our first dates go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for example, you might not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>go walking in the sunshine on a big hike because

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 2>your skin gets really sensitive when you're on chemo, like

0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>little things like that. And he said, anyone that would

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<v Speaker 2>respond badly to that is firstly a piece of shit.

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, it might be a really good

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<v Speaker 3>way for you to weed out guys that aren't worth

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<v Speaker 3>your fucking time anyway. And that's exactly what this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to do, because ultimately there will be people who

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<v Speaker 3>may find the situation that you're in at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>like your health, which is obviously going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>huge part of your life for the next little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a huge focus for you. They

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<v Speaker 3>may find that too overwhelming. That's okay. There's going to

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 3>be people who don't want to opt into, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>supporting someone through their cancer journey at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship, but that also is a very very clear

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 3>indication of who is worthy of your time. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the big question with this is is this guy who

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 3>you have said to you know, you've told him that

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<v Speaker 3>that's where you're at in your life and in your health,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's super supportive of it, and he still wants

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<v Speaker 3>to date and that is a great indication that he's

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 3>a good person at heart. But I guess it comes

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<v Speaker 3>down to this question around hair and how much of

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 3>your identity is defined, because as women, that's such a

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<v Speaker 3>big thing. Like so much of our identity as women

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 3>is defined by the fact that we have long or

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful hair. Like think about, for like, how many people

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<v Speaker 3>who when they've actually washed their hair and then blow

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<v Speaker 3>dried it in a day, people will say, oh my god,

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 3>you look amazing. That we use our hair as part

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<v Speaker 3>of our esthetic identity as a female, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen as quite like a sexual part femininity. So I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand why you have a lot of like your

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<v Speaker 2>identity wrapped up in this. I don't think that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell them, though, I completely think that that

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<v Speaker 2>is up to you whether you feel comfortable telling them

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<v Speaker 2>or not. The only thing I would think is that

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<v Speaker 2>if your wig hair does not match your photos, as in,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a really different color or if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>super different style, I think tell them what your hair

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<v Speaker 2>now looks like so that they know which one you

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<v Speaker 2>are when you turn up to the bar or cafe

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<v Speaker 2>that you go and meet.

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<v Speaker 3>At Yeah, I agree with that, but also I think

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you are dating someone for a little

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<v Speaker 3>while and you're getting to know them, you're building that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of trust and rapport with them, there will come

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<v Speaker 3>a time where you want to tell them that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have hair. Like, there's going to come a time

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<v Speaker 3>where you're gonna want to have that conversation because you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably not going to want to be in a situation

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<v Speaker 3>where you're having sex and your wig falls off like

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<v Speaker 3>that will be more uncomfortable. I would suggest having the

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<v Speaker 3>convo outside of the bedroom, you know, not when things

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<v Speaker 3>are getting heated, and it doesn't have to be this big, long,

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<v Speaker 3>deep and like, you know, you don't have to bear

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<v Speaker 3>your soul to them. At the fact that you've gone

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<v Speaker 3>through this period of your life. You can say, you know, yeah,

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 3>like I mean, you might not know this, but this

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 3>is a week I've lost a lot of hair because

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<v Speaker 3>of chemo. It'll grow back. It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that the way that you describe it

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<v Speaker 3>and how you portray it is going to be how

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 3>other people receive it as well. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>if it is a really big deal and it is

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<v Speaker 3>something that you're really struggling with, then it's also okay

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest about that and explain that to them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that, you know, going back to what

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 3>we said at the very beginning of this question, it

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<v Speaker 3>will very quickly draw the line in the sand as

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<v Speaker 3>to who is worth your investment. We all know that

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<v Speaker 3>dating is hard. It is a really challenging to find

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<v Speaker 3>people who you click with, who are respectful, who treat

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<v Speaker 3>you the way you want to be treated, who value

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 3>you for who you are. And I think that this

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 3>is just going to fast track that process for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to summarize, no, you are absolutely not false

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<v Speaker 2>advertising whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I also hate that fucking sentiment when people are like, oh,

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 3>you've won so much makeup, so you're false advertising, or

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 3>you've done this, so you're false advertising. It's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>would hope for everybody listening to this that your esthetic,

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<v Speaker 3>like the way that you look, is the least important

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>quality of who you are as a person. I would

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<v Speaker 3>hope that all the other things that make up who

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<v Speaker 3>you are are better and more amazing than just the

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 3>way you look, because like, I want that to be

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 3>the most boring part of who I am.

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Also, you gave me some great advice a while ago

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 2>that I very much took on board. Your dating profile photos,

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>make them your version of like a seven. Don't make

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 2>them your ten photos, because then surprise and alike exactly

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>when they meet you in person, they're like, oh, you're

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 2>even better. You're better than I thought you were going

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 2>to be, and then it just sets you up for

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<v Speaker 2>a great date.

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<v Speaker 3>What's almost the opposite, isn't it. I feel like people

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 3>set up their dating profiles and they always put their

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<v Speaker 3>absolute ten out of ten out of ten photos on there.

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Then you live with this fear that people are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to think you're as hot in real life as

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<v Speaker 3>what you are on your photos because you've bagged them.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you're a profile, But then when you get there,

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 3>you've got to really put on your A game. So

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<v Speaker 3>I always think, like, don't be your best on an

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 3>online dating app, Be like just just just a notch

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<v Speaker 3>down from your best.

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Lower the bar for yourself.

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, lower your own bar a tiny bit, and then

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 3>you will exceed expectations. And you could rock up wearing

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<v Speaker 3>a potato sack and they'll be like, fuck, you look good.

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I think Valenciaga was selling that for like fifteen hundred

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars a bag dress. You look fabulous.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 3>You have well and truly outdone yourself. Okay, I have

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 3>one another one, and I have a lot of feelings

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 3>about this. So my husband asks for blowjobs way too much,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean daily, and I'm all for giving blowjobs. Well,

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 3>you're a better woman than I am, and I quite

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 3>like doing it, to be honest, once again, a better

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 3>woman than I am, but I like doing it when

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I fucking want to. The man will bargain for them.

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Picture an incoming text message at ten am when you're

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 3>in a meeting at work. I'll give you a back

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 3>massage tonight if you give me a blowjob, that's all

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 3>well and good. I'm expected to commit to it at

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 3>ten am in the morning, and I might not be

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>in the mood by the end of the day, but

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 3>he will remind me that I promised a blowjob. I

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 3>have told him before to stop doing it because it

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 3>makes it feel like a chore, and I'm not committing

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 3>to sucking his dick several hours in advance. I love

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>the man. He's a very good husband, but he's also

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>very sensitive and his love language is absolutely sex help

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<v Speaker 3>how do I draw the line gently without causing this

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 3>sensitive sexual beast to feel unloved.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, sister, I feel for you because there is nothing

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that makes you like a sham. Wow. Might as well

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>come in and dry you up. Based off of the

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 2>thought of someone being like you told me six hours

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 2>ago that you'd give me a blow shop tonight, I'd.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Be like, fuck. Oh No, one wants to be badgered

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 3>to do anything, especially not sex like like you said

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.239
<v Speaker 3>to me, you would give me a blowjob, so you

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 3>have to do it. Okay great. I also said I

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 3>was going to clean out the car this Saturday, and

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 3>I might not do that either.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I said I was going to go to the gym

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>this morning and I slept in.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay totally, And I really like that She said here

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>that she tried to tell him that it makes it

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 3>feel like a chore, because that's exactly what he's doing.

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 3>He's making it a job for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, within our team, I am very much the.

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Blow job queen. Keisha is the blowjob queen.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>That sounds so fucking wanky, I have expressed within the

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 2>comfort of our little office between you and brit Now,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>apparently with the rest of Australia and other parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I like doing that.

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 3>What is but the reason sham well sleep in the

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 3>carp I like giving blowjobs, but only because.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>It makes me feel really like powerful, and I love

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>doing that as like an active service to them.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 3>This is the active service that I like.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not because they've asked me to do it that

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 2>completely changes the dynamic. Yeah, you were going to get

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>one beforehand, but now that you've been like you told

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 2>me you would, I'd be like, well, now I don't.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Want to do it even more Well, because when you

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 3>say I don't want to do it now, it's because

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 3>you're reclaiming the power. So I think that this is

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>a big point. I know you've already said to him

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 3>that it makes it feel like a chore. But I

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>think the other part of the conversation of this is

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>that I think for a lot of people, when you

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 3>give a blowjob, part of it is feeling powerful. Part

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 3>of it is feeling like you're in control. You're in

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the driver's seat, like you know you're able to provide

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 3>that pleasure. But you're also doing it because it's something

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 3>that you're voluntarily wanting to do. You know, give it, yeah,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>and you want to give a gift willingly.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to wrap that present and tie the bow

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>whichever way I want.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 3>To do it, absolutely, And the thing is is that

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 3>when he badges you for a blowjob, when he asks

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>for them all the time or he's texting about them,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 3>it takes the power away from you. It no longer

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 3>is you doing something because you have onus and you

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 3>have agency and you have the choice to do it.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>You're now doing it because you feel forced into it,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and it totally changes the whole dynamic of the reason

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 3>why you wanted to do it in the first place.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's really important to have the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>around one how much you like doing it, but how

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<v Speaker 3>much you dislike being told because him telling you that

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do it and him badgering you for

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it feel almost degrading in a sense as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And we always talk about a shit sandwich. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go in with I really like giving you

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<v Speaker 2>blowjobs then exactly what Laura said of the However, this

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<v Speaker 2>can make me feel like it just takes away the

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<v Speaker 2>fun of it. When you come to me, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel a bit ick when you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would really love it if you would, just like,

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<v Speaker 2>let it be a gift that I like to give you, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>let that be a choice of mine, because I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy doing it, but I just don't like doing it

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<v Speaker 2>when you make me feel pressured to.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next follow up of this is reward

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<v Speaker 3>good behavior. So when he doesn't ask for it, give

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<v Speaker 3>them to him. And when he does ask for it

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<v Speaker 3>and demands them and then says, you're a top right

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<v Speaker 3>that you're not going to undoor it, so now I

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<v Speaker 3>have to you don't give him it. Yes, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that that needs to become like part and parcel

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<v Speaker 3>of this is like if he's gonna badge you to

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<v Speaker 3>a point where you just do it in submission, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just do it because like you just want him

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<v Speaker 3>to stop, Like you have to stop doing that because

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to continue to do that as well, which

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<v Speaker 3>is super disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, it's Pavlovian conditioning. Get their girlfriend, It's

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<v Speaker 2>what Pavlovian conditioning. It's an actual psychological view. Might be

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<v Speaker 2>getting a bit deep from that. Have you heard about

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<v Speaker 2>that thing where they have the bell, they ring the

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<v Speaker 2>bell and the dog gets given a stake right and

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<v Speaker 2>then they end up teaching the dog that anytime they

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<v Speaker 2>hear the bell, the dog starts salivating.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he thinks he's gonna get a stay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about the reward system. Yeah, so it's about

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<v Speaker 2>the reward system exactly like what you just said. If

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<v Speaker 2>you reward the bad behavior giving him a blowjob when

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<v Speaker 2>he actually pesters you for it, he's got that's his

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<v Speaker 2>reward process of like, he's going to know that that works,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's going to keep doing that. So you need

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<v Speaker 2>to cut that shit off.

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<v Speaker 3>We're literally treating this man like he's a dog, but

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<v Speaker 3>like right now he's behaving like one, so he's a

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<v Speaker 3>psychological experiment. We're treating this man like he's a psychological experiment.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to make this very clear, we don't. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>calling your husband a dog. I'm sure he's amazing. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure he's wonderful in many other ways, just not in

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<v Speaker 3>his badgroom for sex anyway, guys, that is literally from us.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been dropping some bonus episodes. You might have

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<v Speaker 3>seen them. We've been dropping all of the live show

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<v Speaker 3>chats into the feed from our Sydney Live show, which

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<v Speaker 3>was last week. We've already put up chantal Otten and

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<v Speaker 3>Janfran and coming up tomorrow we have two more which

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<v Speaker 3>is matto'kine and also m Carey the Girl who Fell

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<v Speaker 3>from the Sky. And can I just say, if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't heard of Matto Kine before, you haven't listened to

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<v Speaker 3>any of his chats. The accidentally unfiltered story at the

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<v Speaker 3>start of this episode that's going to drop tomorrow is

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<v Speaker 3>possibly the funniest thing I have ever fucking heard in

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<v Speaker 3>my entire life. And that's a big call. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a big, big, big call. But I was on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor dying.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes you really excited because I haven't heard it

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<v Speaker 2>because I was backstage with the people behind the stage

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<v Speaker 2>getting like the mics and stuff for em ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go on after Matt, So I haven't heard it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited to listen through.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever tried to go down on yourself just

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<v Speaker 3>to put you what? Have you ever tried to get

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<v Speaker 3>your head between your own legs? No, except for in

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<v Speaker 3>that yoga pose, you know, the candlestick one where you

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<v Speaker 3>never tried when you were like fourteen or something, being

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<v Speaker 3>like how close can I get you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm guessing it's just a guy thing, no, but

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<v Speaker 3>matter kind did and it's really fucking great. Oh I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love the m Carrey. Like you said, we've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken to her on the podcast before, we don't just

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<v Speaker 2>want to kind of go over the same things, and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys spoke about some really different aspects of her

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<v Speaker 2>story and her life, and I did hear that part

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<v Speaker 2>and it was fucking phenomenal. So I'm really excited for

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<v Speaker 2>you guys who weren't able to go to the live

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<v Speaker 2>show or to stream it to be able to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is all coming up tomorrow, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>it from us, guys. If you've loved the episode, you

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<v Speaker 3>can jump on leave a review for producer Keishak here

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<v Speaker 2>These only positive ones.

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<v Speaker 3>My ego is, like, we all know she's got a

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<v Speaker 3>praise king, and you know what today, Tell your mom,

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