WEBVTT - Ask Uncut- Banging your boss & not setting boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on de rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany,

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<v Speaker 2>and Brittney's gun and Fear's alone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not in right now. I forgot to put it in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said you had it on and then you

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<v Speaker 2>were like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, do you think I can record with

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<v Speaker 1>it on? And then I forgot to put it in?

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<v Speaker 1>So I did. Two days ago I got invisil line again.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have had in Visilne. I had it five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I had it for about six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>months because my teeth weren't that bad, just a few

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<v Speaker 1>little crooked pick offences.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this is not sponsored by in Vizilin.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not sponsored. No. So five years ago I

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<v Speaker 1>had in visil line, fixed my teeth right up and

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<v Speaker 1>then very unnew usual for her, but delilah.

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<v Speaker 2>Ate she never eats anything that's important. Ever, She never

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<v Speaker 2>She only eats things very important. But she ate my retainer.

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<v Speaker 2>How many retainers did she eat? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>Three, four? You know, shaite two, shade two. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>when you finish your in visil line, it's not just over.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to then wear a plate forever at night time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a retainer, so every night for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of existence, so that your teeth don't move. You put

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<v Speaker 1>this anyway, it's very annoying. It's hard to remember whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's irrelevant. Delilah ate my visil line, set ate it,

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<v Speaker 1>tewed it to bits and I was like, that's so annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one more left. Then she buried that one

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<v Speaker 1>in the yard. Cannot find it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like when you lose a car key

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have one car key left and you

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<v Speaker 2>just you just run it. You run it so long.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you should get a spare, but you do

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<v Speaker 2>it so long until you also lose that one, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you do lose it and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>happen and then your teeth move as a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>time and you can't drive your car anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're snag.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I've got the little clips on my teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a tiny, little they very little lisp.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cute when I wear it, so I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get used to it before I put on for the recorder.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the whole way through.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've told you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have a gap so big between my

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<v Speaker 2>front teeth that I could fit a two dollar coin

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<v Speaker 2>between it. Before I got in visil line, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of face is like, what that's a little gapping map. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a gapping gapster. I used to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>like put coins between it. My mom, Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a joke. I used to get called a piggybank.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it cute? It's so mean. Yeah, I've got lots

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<v Speaker 2>of childhood trauma. We could start unpacking it one day

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>There are supermodels with gaps that are only supermodels because

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<v Speaker 1>of their gaps.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's where I went wrong. I got mine

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<v Speaker 2>closed up and then the career was over.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the only Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean yesterday we went to Melbourne, had

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<v Speaker 2>a cute day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, down and back just for lung, did.

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<v Speaker 2>A fly by, and now we're here, ready to answer

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<v Speaker 2>all your deep dark and you're burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had this realization this morning. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>those like how do you know your partner's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cheat on you? Kind of thing? They're pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you had a realization that Ben wasn't gonna cheat

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<v Speaker 2>on you, or you realize you were't gonna cheat on bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's made me want to put this out to

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<v Speaker 1>the life is right because I had a realization this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting ready for work, and I always FaceTime

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<v Speaker 1>Ben in the morning. I'm usually this is my preference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm usually waxed down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wax? Do laser? Do you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>I lasered many moons ago and then I didn't again,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do the follow up the same as it's retainer.

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<v Speaker 1>You just get away from me. It's like, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>real theme going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you wax the stragglers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's no, it didn't. It just grows back aftertime.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't continue your laser, it goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much normal.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it not like thinner or whispy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a wisp. It's not like a blowdry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not bouncy. It's just it's thinner. Yeah, it grows back less,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still pretty normal. Like it's a pretty normal growth. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not maintained that since I came back from

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland to see bands, so it's been a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just living my best life. It is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It's three months, yeah, almost three months. Three months of growth,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine if you're somebody who embraces full bush.

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<v Speaker 2>But knowing that you're not that person, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine if you are a busher. I'm not a busher

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like a bull turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure was not going to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a little hairless cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm the Persian cat. That sounds better than what

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<v Speaker 1>sphinx sphinx cat. Yeah whatever, We're really getting off track.

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<v Speaker 1>My vagina is not wrinkling. I am not like a

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<v Speaker 1>sphinx cat. It is just usually hairless. So I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for next morning jumping the shower and he caught

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse. He was like, well, it's like, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on down there? I started laughing. I said, hey, at

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<v Speaker 1>least you know I'm not cheating on you. He's like, why,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got the bush and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would maintain this if I was ever gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cheat on you. If the day comes that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>here and this is like looking beautiful and maintain, you

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<v Speaker 1>know something's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that you will only maintain for someone else?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you're on your own, you will not, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that is for your own. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense of sexiness. It's only if you're single and you

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<v Speaker 2>think that you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>Some, not all the time. Sometimes I would in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been really busy and tired, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even been able to go to the beach right lately.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really I just have been working in the days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I've been really committed. But I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the beach the other day with producing Geisha. I took

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<v Speaker 1>my pants off and given producing Gisha was like wow

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<v Speaker 1>because I had like this high cat bikini. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been lazy back home. And I looked down and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. It's like and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with bush, but I just it really hit

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<v Speaker 1>home then because I just ignore it. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>look down there, to be honest, when I'm welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>To being married and having two kids, I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what it's like anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is trivial. I know it's ridiculous. There

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing wrong with the bush. I cannot stress that enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, I don't like it. I don't want it,

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<v Speaker 1>and historically speaking, I haven't had it. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of a thing where it's like, now that

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<v Speaker 1>it's here, if I'm jazzing it up questions. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you used to go out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone else has ever done this or if this is

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<v Speaker 1>again just me, but when you used to go out,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were like if you were single, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely just want to go to my friends. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hook up with anyone. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I'm looking up with anyone. So you wear

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<v Speaker 1>like your biggest bridge at Jones is you. You're like

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<v Speaker 1>as unsexy as it can get, so that if the

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<v Speaker 1>if thecious nodding her head, if the opportunity presents itself,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to remember that you've got your bridget Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is on, Yeah, your Grainny Undies or whatever else. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like that, But no, I do still sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when I've got the energy maintain it. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't lately, and I just haven't felt the need. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just really want to live my best life.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what mine is? Mineus? If I don't

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<v Speaker 2>draw my eyebrows on, like, I get to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my extreme, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matt knows if you put your eyebrows on his well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't put eyebrows on for myself. It's for

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<v Speaker 2>other people, but I'll only do it when I'm leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the house or like, but if I'm just a home

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt, no eyebrows, But eyeraws are very important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so eyebrows is your think, I ras are my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I'm like, if I'm really staunched on never

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the house without it, it's because.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone else being like a thing, like maybe their

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<v Speaker 1>partner plays video games or something like or just ordered

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one new video games, You're like, feel pretty safe.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna do let us know if you have one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, there was something else you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>seek about before we get into answering all you're deep,

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<v Speaker 2>dark and you're burning questions, and that is h Hugh

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<v Speaker 2>Grant at the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I imagine most people have seen this by now, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually was surprised by that because you do live

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone and it is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very busy.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hugh Grant and Ashley Graham have had this altercation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to say I say altercation in

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<v Speaker 1>rabbity is because it wasn't really, but okay, they're going viral.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up after the Oscars and all I could

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<v Speaker 1>read online is how much of an asshole Hugh Grant was,

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<v Speaker 1>how rude Hugh Grant was. Can't believe he did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was saying, I can't believe Hugh Grant did this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't want to be at the Oscar's on

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<v Speaker 1>the red carp and be interfew, don't go. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be such a prick? Is it hard

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<v Speaker 1>to just have some respect? Because Ashley Graham, who came

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<v Speaker 1>into the spotlight for being plus sized model body positivity

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<v Speaker 1>in the States, and now she's interviewing, which is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's on the Oscars interviewing some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>stars in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a little listen, Hugret, you are a veteran of

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<v Speaker 3>the Oscars and you've been here a few times. What's

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite thing about coming to the Oscars?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, love, it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the whole of humanity is here. It's it's fantasy fair. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about vanity fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's where we let loosen have a little go fun.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you most excited to see tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>To see?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I know that you probably watched a few

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<v Speaker 3>of the movies. Are you excited to see anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>When?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have your hopes up for anyone? Not?

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<v Speaker 2>No one in particular?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well what are you wearing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Just my suit?

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<v Speaker 2>Your suit?

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<v Speaker 3>Major suit?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't make it, I can't remember my Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, to the tailor. So tell me what does

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<v Speaker 3>it feel like to be in Glass Onion? It was

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<v Speaker 3>such an amazing film.

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved it. I love a thriller.

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<v Speaker 3>How fun is it to shoot something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm barely in it. I'm in it for about

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<v Speaker 1>three seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but still you showed up and you had fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Right almost?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, okay, Well thank you so much. It

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<v Speaker 3>was nice to talk to you all right, back to

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<v Speaker 3>you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I hadn't seen this until this morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>Britt comes in and she's like, I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Ashley and q Grant situation, to which

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<v Speaker 2>I was none the wiser, but now, but now I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm fully abreast of it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it is that bad. Do I think he's an asshole?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think he treated her terribly in the big Carbet? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's that bad. I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's been quite inflamed. I haven't seen all the

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<v Speaker 2>articles that you've read. I haven't seen like the backlash

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<v Speaker 2>that he's received, so I can't speak to how bad

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<v Speaker 2>it's been.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they've literally labeled it viral. They're like, this has

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<v Speaker 1>gone viral.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I mean, I think though he's given her

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like it would be incredibly nerve wracking to be

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<v Speaker 2>the person to ask questions on the red carpet. I

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<v Speaker 2>think her questions are particularly poor. I think they're particularly

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<v Speaker 2>average questions which he's just not giving her anything back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do think he could have been a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit nicer and maybe been a little bit more enthusiastic.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess the big debate that we've been having

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<v Speaker 2>in the office is whether or not there's a responsibility for.

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<v Speaker 1>Him to be that. Well, this is the thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys go and watch the clip, I imagine maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a country by country thing. Maybe it's Americans, British Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we formulated our opinions differently. Neither of them were amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not a good interviewer, I don't think. And

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't respond well. And now maybe this was a

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<v Speaker 1>domino effect or like a bouncing effect, because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give him good questions. He didn't give her good answers,

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<v Speaker 1>flustered her. She gave him worse questions back. He was

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<v Speaker 1>getting over it. I don't know if this is what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was like a table tennis back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth of a shit fight. Her interview style was fine

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<v Speaker 1>for maybe an every day down the street interview with

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<v Speaker 1>some or a local premiere. I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>up to the standard of an oscar red carpet, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what Hugh probably thought. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh probably thought she didn't really know much about him,

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<v Speaker 1>which maybe he got defensive about because the questions were

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<v Speaker 1>very simple. She asked him about the Glass Sungions movie

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<v Speaker 1>he was in and how amazing it was to film that,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are saying he was rude because he said

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<v Speaker 1>back to her, I mean I was only in it

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<v Speaker 1>for three seconds, because he made the smallest cameo. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's rude. She asked him how amazing it

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<v Speaker 1>was to film. He was like, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>opened a door. I was in it for three whole seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just wasn't there, I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked him, did you have fun? Like is it fun?

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<v Speaker 2>She did, which I think, I mean, obviously the answer

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<v Speaker 2>is yes, I had fun. But it's truly I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I think it kind of trivialized. Is it a bit

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<v Speaker 2>right if that's the only if you have this one

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to ask someone a question on the red carpet

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<v Speaker 2>or the Oscars, and you're asking Hugh Grant what he's wearing,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he had heaps of fun doing a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that he only was in for four seconds, when he

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<v Speaker 2>is a literal superstar yeah and has been the lead

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<v Speaker 2>role of many movies. I feel like it just trivialized

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<v Speaker 2>his accomplishments. And that was probably why he wasn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he was rude. I think he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give her anything. That was it. It was the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of enthusiasm. But I think the reason for the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of enthusiasm is because of the lack of prep that

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<v Speaker 2>she's put into the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, And my heart goes out to her

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<v Speaker 1>because you can see that she's like viscerally nervous. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, as someone that has done interviews, it is

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<v Speaker 1>nerve wracking. No, no, I know you have too, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a horrible feeling, especially when things go off peace

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<v Speaker 1>and then not going the way you think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go, which is what happened for her. And she

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<v Speaker 1>did a good enough job. She still came across okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I felt for her because I could feel and

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<v Speaker 1>see her nerves and I could hear it in her voice.

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<v Speaker 1>She kept it together, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like she threw a question to him when she panicked,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you wearing? We have heard so many women

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<v Speaker 1>in the past come out on the red carpet and say,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, please don't ask me that, ask me

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<v Speaker 1>about what I've just done. Ask me about my work,

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<v Speaker 1>ask me about what I'm doing, because you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my life and I'm putting so much into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not focus on what I look like in this

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<v Speaker 1>hot second. Maybe you felt they maybe he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've done so much work and so much

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<v Speaker 1>acting on it. He's literally anclaimed actor. Does that make

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<v Speaker 1>him a wanker for wanting that? I don't know. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's gone down the root of what head you wear?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think at the end of the day, these

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<v Speaker 1>people are walking down the red carpet with so many media,

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<v Speaker 1>they get like a minute or two with each person,

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<v Speaker 1>they move on, they do questions again, So we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a small snippet in a big night. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where she was in the interview, Q, how

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<v Speaker 1>many he'd done, whatever. But I don't think this interview

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<v Speaker 1>deserves the hate that Hugh is getting around the world

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It is not actually wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when somebody is not giving a good interview

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't and haven't done the prep on that person,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't seem to know anything that would like

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<v Speaker 2>spark an interesting conversation, I do think that it would

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<v Speaker 2>be very exasperating for that person who's then got to

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<v Speaker 2>carry the interview, got to seem like they're enthusiastic about

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<v Speaker 2>something that they're not. However, there is a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>be said about when you're the person who is in

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<v Speaker 2>that position. So Hugh being hugely successful, he is at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of his he once upon a time was

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<v Speaker 2>not at the top of his game. He once upon

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<v Speaker 2>a time would have been the person that was nervous totally.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been in the situation where maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>fumbled questions, maybe he wasn't able to, you know, perform.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it goes so far to give an

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<v Speaker 2>olive branch. When you see someone doing that, it shows

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<v Speaker 2>a real level of kindness and empathy. If you can

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<v Speaker 2>see that someone's struggling on the receiving end, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing their job well in that space, give them

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<v Speaker 2>more because it makes their job easier. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>in this instance he could have leaned into being nice

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<v Speaker 2>and giving more, but instead he was a bit like

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you asking me, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is not the most helpful or kind way of going

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Do I think that makes him an asshole? No,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that there's many factors here, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the backlash has been a bit too extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course he could have given them more. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can always give them more. But then the argument, And

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say I didn't formulate my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>until I did a lot of deep diggy.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to say, I think most people read

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<v Speaker 2>articles and then you get a vibe. You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy's an asshole. You are Can you see five

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<v Speaker 2>seconds of a clip? You don't actually watch the extended

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<v Speaker 2>version of what happens, And then you're formulating an opinion

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<v Speaker 2>based on other people's opinion, which is very fucking dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. The last thing I want to say is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of British have come out in his defense, some actors,

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<v Speaker 1>like some people in the Spotlight, just some everyday folk

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<v Speaker 1>and have said, guys, this, this is not rude. This

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<v Speaker 1>is literally just British. This is the way we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We aren't over the top and enthusiastic like Americans are,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't converse in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he have given more?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Is he supposed to be the most hate man

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<v Speaker 1>in the world today for that interview? Absolutely not. And

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<v Speaker 1>I only come out in his defense a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's really unfair that, like you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people very easily these days

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<v Speaker 1>don't consume news and media in the right way. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we scroll past. I've done it before. We scroll past,

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<v Speaker 1>we read the headline, we formulate the opinion, we tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, we get angry. Do you see how much

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<v Speaker 1>a wanker here Grant was? What do you do? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it was really rude on the red carpet though,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I didn't seen it. And that's just a

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<v Speaker 1>small example. So I think that this one was a

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<v Speaker 1>prime example of consuming new in a better way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well also, just like it's a perfect example of how

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<v Speaker 2>some things are just not that bad as what they

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<v Speaker 2>seem like when you read a headline. Absolutely click before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into answering your questions, we have a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>for this week. What we would like to recommending it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kick it off for what what I you?

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<v Speaker 1>I abon? All right, well, I'm not proud to say

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so glad that I influenced you. Laura Burn

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<v Speaker 1>influenced me.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an influencer everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>If you influenza, if youf o Laura. You'll see that sporadically.

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<v Speaker 1>She posts like herself in a very scary mask. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not ad dress up mask. It's like a lead light mask.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to make your skin all beautiful. You walk

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<v Speaker 1>its hand, it's got a little battery thing in the hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do it not look like I'm twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>years old again like it because I looked at you

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, your skin looks really good. What

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<v Speaker 1>have you You've been doing? You're like the mask. You

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<v Speaker 1>even took it to ULARU Like when we went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Territory. You walked out in the mask and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, she's got you do you have

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<v Speaker 1>an addictive personality, but you had an addiction to the mask.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, she's either been sucked into

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<v Speaker 1>some advertising online or she's onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been sucked in and I'm not addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be dedicated. You have to use there

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<v Speaker 2>every other night of the week for ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I took it to the Gold Coast with me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I anyway, I went to my you are glowing. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>You're just saying that. I went to the skin specialist

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<v Speaker 1>that I always go to. You guys know that I

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of stuff with my skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Every same day I'm doing something at the skin doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for you to call me and say I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a facelift. Honestly, everything evasive one I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>ever real one every day genuinely.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I'm out that bureau and I'm like, Gus,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just getting my skin done. You're like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you gain?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten percent of brit skin is actually her skin still.

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<v Speaker 1>I've grafted it from a beautiful chart. Yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of my skin because I put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time and money into it. But it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to Anykay, we're getting off, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>come for me for looking after my skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Fret's vibe is the omni lugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get there. So I went to my skin

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<v Speaker 1>specialists that I go to every day and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura's been posting his mask. She's like, I know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, and I said, tell me the truth, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting sucked in. Do I want to buy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't do anything? And she said absolutely, She said I

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<v Speaker 1>use it myself at home. Anyway, I bought it that afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>came the next day, very quick delivery. It's an omnilux,

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<v Speaker 1>not sponsored. Should be omnilux, Yeah, definitely should be sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very expensive. Yeah, and I also have an

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<v Speaker 1>addiction now. I walk around all the time with it

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got a little batch from your hand. I

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<v Speaker 1>took it up to the Gold Coast like you took

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<v Speaker 1>it to ULARU. Like, I'm committed, and I've been I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is the right thing. You suppose

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<v Speaker 1>it for ten minutes a day, I've been doubling it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing twenty minutes. I'm like, I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't burn my face off, but I'm doing twenty. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's my recommendation. It is not cheap. It is about

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred dollars five pounds. If you can get it

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<v Speaker 1>on sale, you can get it for three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>But from what I have been told, and don't hold

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<v Speaker 1>me to this, but what I have been told, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a great mask and if you are going somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>and constantly getting these things done, it might be the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing for you. Okay, Well, I'm glad that I

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<v Speaker 1>influenced you. Douc Keisha's wearing crocs now, so so a

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<v Speaker 1>double influencer. You've double whemmy, yeah, double whammy this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Good for me?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I have a recommendation. It is a book.

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<v Speaker 2>It is from a wonderful woman who we interviewed on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. I think it was like two years ago now,

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<v Speaker 2>Kath Kochel. She is phenomenal. She speaks about kindness and

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<v Speaker 2>her book is called aptly named Kindness. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>read this little blurb. It's what's surviving on the kindness

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<v Speaker 2>of strangers. Taught me about perspective, connection and happiness. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't listened to the interview that we did

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<v Speaker 2>with Cath, it is and has been one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite interviews for so long. We'll pop a link into

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. Go and have a listen to it

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<v Speaker 2>after this. But she speaks about her injury that she suffered,

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<v Speaker 2>how she taught herself to walk again, and how much

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<v Speaker 2>kindness as a I mean as a vehicle for healing herself,

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<v Speaker 2>as a vehicle for giving her life purpose has changed her.

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<v Speaker 2>And she has a foundation called the Kindness Factory. She

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<v Speaker 2>truly is a phenomenal woman and I'm not doing it justice,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would love to recommend her book and also

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<v Speaker 2>go back listen to that episode also. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very selfish one, but Tony May is having a

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<v Speaker 2>sale today and so I'm going to throw that in

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<v Speaker 2>there as my vibe because it is a twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent off flash sale just for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you listen to this today, go by is

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<v Speaker 1>that sponsored? Have you? Have you brought your kischen and

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<v Speaker 1>jewel real?

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is brought to you by Tony May. We

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<v Speaker 2>are having a flash sale twenty five percent off.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's amazing. I'm going to go get something tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get things for free though when you remember. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the questions question number one, when is

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<v Speaker 2>it okay to be someone's second choice? For context, I

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<v Speaker 2>met this guy five years ago and we followed each

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<v Speaker 2>other on Instagram. Fast forward and we went on a

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<v Speaker 2>nice date a few weeks ago. The following week, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a message saying that he had such a great

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<v Speaker 2>time and he really likes me, but his ex had

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<v Speaker 2>been in contact and he felt as though things weren't

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<v Speaker 2>finished between them. Fast forward again. Dam It's been two

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<v Speaker 2>months and he's now messaging me saying that things are

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<v Speaker 2>well and truly finished between him and his ex and

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<v Speaker 2>that he'd liked to give us a go again. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you go yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Go where away? Or go back? Could you go on

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<v Speaker 1>a date? Would you go to Alaska? Would you give

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<v Speaker 1>him another chance? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>You are a glutton for punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>For the reason is commence this guy five years ago

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<v Speaker 1>for each other on Instagram. Fast forward when on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been really honest. Right, So I have also been

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation, but he has been honest where he's

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<v Speaker 1>broken up with someone, he's tried to get back into

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I actually I literally did this last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just thought about this. He broke up with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tried to get back into the dating world. You've

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<v Speaker 1>gone on a date with him. He's been honest and said.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to close the chapter if something might.

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<v Speaker 1>Still be there. I'm just not really pasted it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back and finish that chapter or

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<v Speaker 1>extend that chapter, whatever that's going to be. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to reread the chapter. So he's gone back, it's obviously finished.

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<v Speaker 1>He has closed it. He had feelings for you. He's

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<v Speaker 1>come back and he said, I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm I'm all ready now, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on a date? I did exactly that last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's okay. I wanted to move on

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<v Speaker 1>from my past relationship started to see this guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was great, like he was actually a nice guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I still had these feelings and I still needed to

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<v Speaker 1>close the other chapter. So I was honest with him,

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<v Speaker 1>closed the chapter, and then I went back to him

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<v Speaker 1>because I was because he was a nice guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I feel like I'm ready now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was about it. He's like, no worries, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand you had to go and do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's done the wrong thing here. Actually, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's been pretty honest. I think it's a different thing

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't an ex relationship and he's just like

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<v Speaker 1>flitting between two people constantly, like I can't choose, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want you or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I want Sally. You're both great. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go see Sally for a week and come. That's different.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a past relationship. He's been honest and

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<v Speaker 1>now he wants to explore it with you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>explore it if he shows his fuck boy cards straight

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<v Speaker 1>out of the bat, different story. But I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>shutting this down right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's important, though, to kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>reflect on the fact that it does feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>the second choice. Right It's easy to say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just go and try it. See, like when you've been

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<v Speaker 2>invested in someone and you like them and then they've

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<v Speaker 2>turned around and said, hey, there's actually someone else, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like, oh, that didn't work out, I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>you again. Like that feels pretty shit, And it also

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<v Speaker 2>can breed massive insecurities in someone as to whether that

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<v Speaker 2>person's going to be invested brids someone because she was

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<v Speaker 2>the one who did it. She's like, give them a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because the other thing is I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm going to call a Spader's bade here.

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<v Speaker 1>You met five years ago. You just went on a date,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been the second choice for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of people before you of the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years. You didn't meet last week and he

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<v Speaker 1>can't make his mind up. It's been five years. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>go on the day. Yeah, okay, I forgot about that

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<v Speaker 1>five life you've been the second choice. Let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I think I mean making this question a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more broad. I think this does happen in a

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<v Speaker 2>much shorter timeframe pretty frequently. I have a situation which

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<v Speaker 2>is from my past, where I dated someone for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. We were together, and then he started dating

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<v Speaker 2>someone else, and then I came back into the picture

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and he kind of went between the two

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<v Speaker 2>of us. It was really hard for him because I

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<v Speaker 2>think he thought of me as a fly risk, but

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<v Speaker 2>the other girl was safe at the time, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>so he was trying to choose between who he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be with. He is now married to her. He

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<v Speaker 2>now has children with her, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I still hate him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no no, And I think at the time, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not me trying to blow smoke up my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>But she would have felt like she was the second

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<v Speaker 2>choice because he broke up with her, came back to me,

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<v Speaker 2>got back with her when I broke up with him,

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<v Speaker 2>got back with me again, Like he broke up with

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<v Speaker 2>her two times to get back with me. Wild then

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<v Speaker 2>they got back together.

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<v Speaker 1>A third time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good guy, Yeah, great guy, great guy, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>she gave him multiple chances that I think and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well no, I yeah, that was more into the story.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ready to get unto that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is he is now married to her,

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<v Speaker 2>they have children, he's in a committed relationship, and he

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<v Speaker 2>loves her. She is no longer the second choice. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's so important sometimes when our relationship

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<v Speaker 2>starts off with this rocky back and forth, if someone

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<v Speaker 2>then makes that commitment and wants to be in that relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that you are forever then and forever

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<v Speaker 2>more the second choice of that relationship. Your first relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>your first priority, is the one that you choose. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can give this the opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 2>something amazing, give it a chance. And if he does

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<v Speaker 2>exactly as you said, Britt, show his fuck boy cards,

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<v Speaker 2>and you continue to feel like a second option, then

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it's not the right relationship and you should walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that we should just be so

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<v Speaker 2>quick to say I'm not giving that person a chance

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<v Speaker 2>because they tried something else before me. I do think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important though, for a self preservation perspective, say, like

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<v Speaker 2>you've been in a relationship with someone, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a different scenario out there. Say you've been in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship for a long time with someone, they've fallen

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<v Speaker 2>out of love with you and they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>with someone else, and then they've come back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a much harder situation to try and navigate. When

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<v Speaker 2>someone who you've been in a committed relationship leaves you

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<v Speaker 2>for someone else and then comes back, that really does

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<v Speaker 2>make you feel like a second choice. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that every situation is dependent, and what it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to isn't so much that other person and the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're choosing you. Now, it comes down to how

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to be in that relationship? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>trust them? Are you going to be able to build

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<v Speaker 2>a foundation and believe that you're their first choice eventually?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that shit can reak such havoc on your self

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<v Speaker 2>confidence and in your ability to feel safe in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and like they're not just going to run away

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<v Speaker 2>and be with someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships are super messy and convoluted. They're very rarely straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think we romanticize messy, complicated relationships too much though,

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<v Speaker 2>and think that that's the norm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I mean by that is I genuinely believe

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<v Speaker 1>we are starting to possibly become too quick to cut

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<v Speaker 1>people off at the knees and say they've done the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong thing and not sit there and actually listen to

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<v Speaker 1>them and hear them out and think about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think as a generation, we're starting to become

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<v Speaker 1>too quick to jump on the defensive and say what

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<v Speaker 1>a dickhead when you sit there and break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say relationships can be complicated and messy if

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<v Speaker 1>he is with his ex partner for quite a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely are breakups and endings easy. Very rarely is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sometimes it is sure we don't like each other,

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<v Speaker 1>we're breaking up, move on, we'll be friends where I'm great,

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>what a dream. But that's not a common thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this particular situation, and I encourage everybody to start

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. When you know you're fronted with something

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<v Speaker 1>that is a tricky conversation, look at it like this.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has actually been super honest. He has said

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<v Speaker 1>he really likes you. Then he has said I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mess you around. There is something I need

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<v Speaker 1>to still work out with my ex, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>to go and do that, which is basically him saying

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<v Speaker 1>I can't give you what you need right now. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>he's honest, he's gone and done that, and then he's

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<v Speaker 1>come back and said, if you give me another go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to take you out because I've closed that chapter,

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<v Speaker 1>which I couldn't do before, couldn't be there for you

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>before because I was still half my foot's still half

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<v Speaker 1>in the door with the other relationship. There is no

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>harm to be done by going on another date. But

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<v Speaker 1>like Laura said, to reiterate, now you start to see

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<v Speaker 1>him and you still are unsure, and you still feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the second choice, even though there's no one else.

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<v Speaker 1>You still feel like he's out there looking around for

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<v Speaker 1>something better, not the right thing. But definitely give for

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<v Speaker 1>to go because you don't know if something amazing, a

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>magical could come from that. There's no harm in it.

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Second is fuck boy cart is out, Get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the door? Question two? How can I distance our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>without ruining it? I have a half sister, same mum,

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<v Speaker 1>different dad, that is a few years older than me,

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<v Speaker 1>and due to some family issues, we did not grow

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<v Speaker 1>up together. She lived with her dad who remarried, and

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<v Speaker 1>I lived with my mum. We only reconnected around two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and at first it seems like the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever, after twenty nine years as an only child,

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't suddenly want a sister. Initially I love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of having a sister, but I now know that

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>her and I are just completely different people, not in

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a bad way, but she's more extroverted and wants the

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>type of relationship where we text all day, call a

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<v Speaker 1>few times a week, and basically give a play by

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<v Speaker 1>play of our day in our lives. Me or the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, I'm more of an introvert. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>the need to chat and text unnecessarily unless there is

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>literally something I really need to talk about. How do

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<v Speaker 1>I navigate this? How do I put some distance between

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<v Speaker 1>my new half sister without ruining the relationship completely.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if she's just excited. I wonder if she's

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to have someone in her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people, I think this is purely personality trait.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Like some people are really intense in their friendships and

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<v Speaker 2>they go from zero to one hundred and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be It's like you're in a relationship but with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, someone that's platonic.

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I am like this girl, I am the like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be texting and calling and talking unnecessarily.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm the worst for it. I'm like, why, yeah, yeah,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>but we have something to text about. You never, you

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>would never in your life go hey, I miss you. Yeah,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe for weird You would never do that. You would

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<v Speaker 1>never say you missed me back.

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Brittany's gone, miss you?

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I have? What I think you were? Something was wrong

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>with you? I'd like, it's everything, Okay.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I definitely had friendships like this, And it's not to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I don't still have some friendships that are similar,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think, like, so for example, for me, when

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<v Speaker 2>I've had these really intense friendships where I've spent all

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>day texting and being on the phone to them, i

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had a romantic relationship happening at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's almost impossible to keep up that intensity. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's something that's also it kind oft ebbs

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and flows like run away really good friends. Kaya and

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I go back through our WhatsApp sometimes like for years

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>we were like that friends. We were texted everything that

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>was happening. We were constantly texting. But the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>we don't now is purely because our lives have transitioned

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<v Speaker 2>into a different phase where we're both so busy, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got kids. We still love each other the same amount,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't have the constantness. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>relationships normally do have these ebbs and flows, especially friendships

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<v Speaker 2>will have the you know, you have intense periods and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have less intense periods. But in saying that,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it is very hard when one person feels like the

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<v Speaker 2>friendship is overpowering them, when they feel like, oh my god, again,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 2>you're so needy and I don't have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 2>fill that need completely. It's also not your job to

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<v Speaker 2>constantly fill your friend's cup, do you know what I mean? Like,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>if your friends are expecting so much of you to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where you physically don't have the time in

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<v Speaker 2>the day to give them what they need back, there

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<v Speaker 2>does have to be some boundaries that are created.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you create that?

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<v Speaker 2>Very good question, Very hard, But I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>also when it comes down to like almost slowing down

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the rapidness of yours, Like I want to say a

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<v Speaker 2>soft fade without actually fading them out, but like don't

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<v Speaker 2>reply as quickly, don't condition them to think that like

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<v Speaker 2>anytime they text or call, you're going to be available

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>to them. Maybe it takes you a day to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to some text messages and it's like a, hey,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>i'mily sorry, I was busy yesterday, blah blah blah blah blah.

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>But I think that you can also control the pace

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<v Speaker 2>of a friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more all I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this one's a pretty easy one. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough one. I am like that, But my friends

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<v Speaker 1>know now what I'm like. They know that they could

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<v Speaker 1>message me and it might actually take me a day

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<v Speaker 1>and a half to get back, and they don't hold

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<v Speaker 1>a grudge because they know it's who I am and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not on purpose. Sometimes I don't even see the message, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you would do is just hold off.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't hold off days because that's just rude. But

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>like at the end of a day, maybe she might

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<v Speaker 1>text me in the morning, at the end of the

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>day just say so sorry love, just literally winding down.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>My days have been mental lately. I hope you had

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a good day. You're still running back, you're still being friendly,

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're subliminately putting the message in that like life

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is busy and you're not going to always be able

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<v Speaker 1>to respond at the same time. That would be my suggestion.

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Apart from that, if she doesn't like, there's nothing more

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you can do than not right back straight away, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's okay. You don't have to. There's not

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>an expectation. So if she's texting you right back when

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it's wait till the nighttime, all the morning time, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe give a little bit less. So maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it sounds rude, but she will pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up. You're not going to be rude, But don't

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>continuously ask her all these things. If you don't actually

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>want to have that conversation. It sucks and it's a

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>tricky one. But that's probably what I do.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 2>But do you know, for me, I've looked this up

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.479
<v Speaker 2>before because a part of me was like, you know,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>we've had questions before.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I've done Brittany running back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I look this up because we've had we've

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<v Speaker 2>done episodes on friendships and how to manage these sorts

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>of relationships, and like all of the Internet says to

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you that you should give them a call and set

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>boundaries and all this says, I genuinely think and I'm

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>not a fucking psychologist, so tell me I'm wrong. That's fine.

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of think that that advice sucks because

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<v Speaker 2>if I was somebody who, like if I was calling

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<v Speaker 2>Cairo all the time and texting her because I was

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<v Speaker 2>excited about our friendship, and she called me and was like, Hey,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just putting some boundaries in place with our friendship.

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I love you, but I actually don't want to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to you that much. It would hurt me so much.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It would hurt me that she felt like she needed

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>to verbalize that. I think that there is a much

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>softer way that you can approach this, which is slowing

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<v Speaker 2>down your communication, slowing down the frequency of which you

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>see each other doing it in a less direct way,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and then seeing if she picks up on that, and

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>giving her that opportunity first. It's only if that continues

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>at a frequency that's completely unmanageable for you, where you

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like the friendship is overwhelming you, where it's actually

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 2>making you unhappy. If you genuinely feel like you need

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>to put those boundaries in place, then have the conversation.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>But some of the advice out there that I have

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>read in terms of like how to speak to your

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>friends about setting boundaries. I'm like, you're gonna have no

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking friends if you do that.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I'm all for Like we always say, the communication, communication,

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>community boundaries, not your boundaries. It's not always the answer

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of setting this strict boundary is not always the answer.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe setting a boundary is the answer. But without

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you sitting down saying these are my boundaries, are my

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>boundaries because it will Yeah, and I know that, like

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, psychology today will see boundaries, but this will,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 1>like you said, it could ruin a friendship. If someone

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>also said the same to me, don't message me so

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>many times a day, I'd be like, oh, okay, I

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>probably would never message again. I would never I would

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>read the room. Yeh, got it.

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>We're so extreme.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 1>This is a time where I feel like most people

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>can work out what the boundary.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Is, and I think that this is something that maybe

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>is slightly different. I can't even remember the episode we

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>did on friendship, which was so long ago. If I

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 2>was to listen back to that now, I'm sure at

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the time I would have been like, set bound your boundaries,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>tell them how you feel, you know, and I think

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>think you can in extreme situations, but it is not

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the first go to for everything because I think sometimes.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Especially not a friend that cares too much about you,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the problem here. She she likes you too much,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and she's not being toxic. She's like, I love you,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you everything. I want to tell you.

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to be fraenzy. And I think maybe in

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 2>this situation, it is a bit of an unusual one

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>because it's a sister that she never had, and it

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 2>may be a friendship that she's leaning into so hard

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's making up for time that she feels his

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>lost time. There's another layer to this friendship rather than

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it just being like an extreme intense friend And I

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>think just navigate it sensitively and kindly without going in

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>whole hog.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>And thin the she is actually a sister, She wasn't

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a stepsister. She's half like, yeah, she's just she's your sister.

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's tricky one, Yeah all right, but.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>She loves you. She got a spicy, saucy one for you, brilliant.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I had a dream about my boss and now I

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 2>can't stop seeing him in a sexual way. He is single,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>but there would be what I guess you'd say, a

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>power imbalance between us. Should I put out some feelers

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 2>and see if maybe he sees me in the same way?

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Or am I asking for trouble. I'm not sure if

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 2>it's just a bit of a hot fantasy or if

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe we actually could work in a relationship. We have

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot in common, and I know that a lot

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>of people meet their long term partners at work.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I think it's a bit tricky because it

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is always tricky when there's a relationship for me with

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>work colleagues at all, let alone your boss.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 2>There is no relationship for me. She had a dream.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm giggling, because when you say, should

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I put some feelers out and see if there's something there?

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>For sure, put your feelers out. But I wouldn't ask him.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I would just try and pick up Most people can

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>pick up little tiny cues within your interactions if someone

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is interested. Like usually, if someone's interested, they drop the flirtiness.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>There's enough to be like, oh, I think there's something there.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>But if you've only had a dream about him and

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even speak to you in the corridor, it's

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>probably not something you should barge in and be like

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to put this on the table. Is there

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>something here also?

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I okay, I think this is so funny. I think

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>if you've only changed your feelings because of a dream,

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not real.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I dream of like Changaina more times.

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like sometimes I wake up and MAT's cheated on

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>me in my dream. Then I'm really angry at him

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and he has to remind me that dreamat is not real, Matt,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>and I shouldn't be taking my dream feelings into real life.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm pointing at you. Good point, though, because dreams are

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>real for you. You're like, you cheated on me, ashole.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>But they don't they don't exist. Like the feelings. The

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>feelings are not real. The attraction if it was never

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>there before the dream, I don't even think it's a

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 2>real attraction. And my advice would be don't shop where

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you eat, don't try things up at your work.

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.959
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm shit, were eight heaps times?

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:42.959
<v Speaker 2>And how many problems have you had?

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple? Yeah? Yeah, but this is what you've also said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I do believe in all seriousness. Were having a

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<v Speaker 1>little giggle. But you do spend so much of your

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<v Speaker 1>time at work. People do meet at work all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>People get married from people they're men at work. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing, but it has to be a reciper

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<v Speaker 1>or things. So you have to know that the feelings

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<v Speaker 1>are there. When you say, should I put the feelers out? No, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying no. I'm saying I'm saying yes. But the

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<v Speaker 1>feelers is not a love letter with tchick. Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's left on his desk, the feel out?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you put a feeler out? Brit Well extended

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<v Speaker 2>eye contact?

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<v Speaker 1>If yeah, maybe a wink? No, you flow. You can

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<v Speaker 1>float at such a low level and see what's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>back like it is what you do. It's how you

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<v Speaker 1>gauge if anyone is interested or going on his Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>like like follow see.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I feel like this one. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just unnecessary. It's not real. You had a dream. Dreams

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<v Speaker 2>are not real. They are thoughts. They are thoughts that

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<v Speaker 2>turned into feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Dreams aren't real. I agree, but hey, I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the person that stops a finding the love

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<v Speaker 1>of a life. If the boss is a love of

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<v Speaker 1>life and she never knows because you said dream boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not real boss, dream boss is not real boss.

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<v Speaker 2>That dream boss could be real boss. Maybe real boss

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible in bed and dream boss was amazing. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the definition of living in a fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Explore it. I've changed so much the older I get,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, ifucking over it, I'm like, live your

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<v Speaker 1>life advibe. No, it is not, because I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>do anything inappropriate. I'm just saying you can pick up

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a queue there like most people. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>might not. I'm going to give you the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt. Most people can pick up if you give

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, if they give a little bit back,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they shut it down. So I would, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>give a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But is this a work environment? So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>here is your boss. Is this a work environment where

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<v Speaker 2>it would be completely inappropriate for him to be having

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of relationship with you? Like, there are workplaces

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<v Speaker 2>where that is an imbalance of power. It is inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>It could get him fired and could also get you fired.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, is that something that we need to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just think, fuck your colleagues, right,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck your bosses.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the question here is you can I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're led down a bit of a garden track. We

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<v Speaker 1>watch too many American shows like Suits and Stuff, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like we like each other. We have to go

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<v Speaker 1>have a meeting with HR and tell them everything. There

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<v Speaker 1>are definitely times where it's not going to be ideal

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<v Speaker 1>and it might rub other colleagues the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>For definitely industries where it's not appropriate as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, but maybe, I mean we're getting ahead of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Just put the feeling ountd just flying. Really ask him

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<v Speaker 1>a personal question, how was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you get up to?

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<v Speaker 1>He's either going to say nothing and walk away. I

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<v Speaker 1>just say, how to go on and coment some friends

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<v Speaker 1>went for a drink and you can start to develop

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship that might be outside of when do I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get this document to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Also keep in mind what constitutes sexual harassment in the workplace. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just chadge, just do your compliance training and stay abreast breast.

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<v Speaker 1>Jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so unmature guys. That is it from us.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave a review. We bloody love those. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>Better if it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like don't leave us as ship well and that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we read those as well, send them to

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<v Speaker 2>each other sometimes we do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what's funny is like when there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad review, Oh, I got backhanded one the other day?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I tell you? Keisha told me no?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>There was a review that said I couldn't stem b

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I couldn't stand Brittany. I found Brittany insufferable

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<v Speaker 1>last year, but now she's better. But I quite like

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<v Speaker 1>her now. And I was like, if I was that insufferable,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you keep listening for the year? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I get. I was like, if you hate me so much,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have been that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still here to every person, I thought, And now

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<v Speaker 2>things are pretty amazing. I'm the change has been positive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually I mean, thank you for your honest feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes less honest is good though, bless his best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, give a scare of some love if you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think that now I'm tolerable, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it. Also, the person I said in my

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<v Speaker 1>laugh is a kooker brough.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck you, duh, no, fuck you, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>A native animal. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, what we're trying to get that is that we

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<v Speaker 2>read them all anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. And you know sometimes you know the trill, So

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<v Speaker 1>your mum, the cooker barrow, You died your friends and

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<v Speaker 1>the dog and just shed love because