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Speaker 1: Celebrating International Women's Day.

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Speaker 2: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini is International

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Speaker 2: Women's Day, So we're bringing you a selection of eclectic

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Speaker 2: and impressive guests to make your ponder exactly what this

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Speaker 2: day means to you. Our next guest is a statue

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Speaker 2: thankfully the real life versions with the boys today Belty.

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Speaker 1: Now, usually I tell you what they do, but with

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Speaker 1: this lady, well she does so much.

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Speaker 2: She's a footballer.

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Speaker 1: She's a boxer, she likes water fags, she loves dogs,

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Speaker 1: she likes football.

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Speaker 3: She's also an.

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Speaker 4: Ambassador for Our Watch, an organization task with preventing violence

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Speaker 4: against women and their children.

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Speaker 2: See what I mean. She's an all round bloody superstar.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome our very special guest on International Women's Day.

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Speaker 1: It's Taylor Harris.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Tayler has some intro.

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Speaker 1: Well you're a big deal man, you get the intro.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time on the show as well. It

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, welcome to me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I listen to you guys.

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Speaker 1: So oh, International Women's Day today.

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Speaker 3: Taylor Harris, what does that mean to you? Bye? Bye

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Speaker 3: for you?

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Speaker 4: I mean someone who is I think a really inspirational

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Speaker 4: figure for women in Australia and all over the world.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just such a good day to highlight

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Speaker 4: people doing great things who we can say, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is someone for young girls to look up to.

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Speaker 4: Young boys and girls, I should say, but girls can

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Speaker 4: kind of look up and say, I'm going to do

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Speaker 4: great things like that person. Yeah, And there's just too

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Speaker 4: many that come to mind, right m Kathy Freeman like

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Speaker 4: is one that I looked up to when I was younger,

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Speaker 4: and I'm always thinking that is a strong, powerful, brave

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Speaker 4: you know, someone who was fierce and challenged everything and

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Speaker 4: challenged everyone. And you know, today we can just kind

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Speaker 4: of look around and patribute and kind of nod our

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Speaker 4: heads and say good job, keep going, keep.

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Speaker 3: Doing what you doing.

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Speaker 2: Nice. I think would touched on it before as well

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Speaker 2: in terms of like being a leader. The messaging around

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Speaker 2: Intentional Women's Day is choose to challenge. And when I

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Speaker 2: think of choosing to challenge, you were very much in

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Speaker 2: the spotlight as a challenger of the status quo and

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Speaker 2: what was going on. If you're not sure of what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about, I talking about the very famous photo

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Speaker 2: with you kicking the footy. Can you just run through

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Speaker 2: why do you think the response would have been different

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Speaker 2: to the photo if you were a guy.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, if I was a guy, this wouldn't have happened

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Speaker 4: in the first place. Yeah, that's that's the thing, like,

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Speaker 4: and that's what you know. The comments that were written

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Speaker 4: and posted were not just you know, not just oh.

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Speaker 3: You know, she didn't kick it that far or all these

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Speaker 4: It was as disgusting as you can imagine, like your

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Speaker 4: wildest dreams, like that gross sort of stuff. You know,

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Speaker 4: trolls are already the pits, but for it to be

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Speaker 4: more layers and obviously, hence my involvement with our watches,

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Speaker 4: I got confirmation essentially that this is the start of

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Speaker 4: domestic violence and sexual violence and sexual harassment and people

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Speaker 4: who think it's acceptable to speak to women like this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, those all these layers.

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Speaker 2: Of psychology, and he's mirrored throughout the different layers of

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Speaker 2: behavior as you scale up through severity, the based psychology

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Speaker 2: is still there.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: We had to chat with Grace Taane recently about this,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that she's fascinated about as well as

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Speaker 1: the psychology of predators and the way that they look

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Speaker 1: at women and how that is scarily similar from somebody

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Speaker 1: who posts something on Instagram saying like insert derogatory comment

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Speaker 1: all the way up into.

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Speaker 4: Someone just casual sexism, casual racism, you know, casual homophobia.

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Speaker 3: It's just so.

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Speaker 4: Prevalent and so much that I was out with friends

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Speaker 4: and this guy I was just being, you know, just

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Speaker 4: being gross and whatever and thinking to he was the

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Speaker 4: ship to you watch our little group. And I am

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Speaker 4: the most protective person of my people.

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Speaker 3: And so if you're doing an amazing boxer, so are

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Speaker 3: you fall in the world right now? For your way

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Speaker 3: division for boxing? Is that I think I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know you're in the top five. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: but some guy who was being derogatory towards.

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Speaker 4: And this has happened a few times, but this particular time,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. He was throwing his drink around or whatever,

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Speaker 4: thinking no one else mattered, and I went up politely,

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Speaker 4: Hey did you just throw your drink on my friend?

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Speaker 3: And he was like, cool, what of it?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, come on, like, you don't want

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Speaker 4: drink in your hair and stuff when you're at and

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Speaker 4: then he just says something along the lines of, you know,

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Speaker 4: just a woman kind of thing and yeah, and so

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Speaker 4: I just you know, showed him.

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Speaker 3: And he's in hospital and we hope he's going out to.

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Speaker 2: Any of the other side of the joy.

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Speaker 3: Now go to jail.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly where you're going. Taylor Harris who joins in

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Speaker 2: the studio And Taylor, I know this is something you

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Speaker 2: wanted to move past quite quickly, but she was just

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Speaker 2: telling the story was about just before, well a while ago.

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Speaker 2: Now obviously, Taylor, but before the season started, you said

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Speaker 2: that there was a guy who threatened one of your

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Speaker 2: down that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: What exactly did he say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so right, he said, I don't care if

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Speaker 3: you're a woman, I'll still beat out of you. That's

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Speaker 3: what he said. And I was like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: you will.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I was what.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, But I was obviously not going

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Speaker 3: to fight something.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's bad, but anyway, but that happens all the time.

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Speaker 4: YEA, necessarily to me because people, you know, aren't that

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Speaker 4: silly to say it to me, but you know, because they.

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Speaker 3: Know they know you're a boxer and they know you

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Speaker 3: could actually fight bad. Yeah, but it was crazy. I

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Speaker 3: was like, Wow, that had never really happened to me

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Speaker 3: in real life, but it did. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: how long ago? Was this? A while ago before the

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Speaker 3: season started? Shit?

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Speaker 4: And then I just, you know, obviously left because I

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Speaker 4: can't be in situations like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the comment, I was like, whoa when I

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Speaker 3: got out there. Scary times.

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Speaker 1: But do you feel do you feel?

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Speaker 2: Because again, like the messaging around your National Women said

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Speaker 2: is choose to challenge. That's obviously what they're driving at

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Speaker 2: is that you, interestingly, as a woman, often you feel

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Speaker 2: like you don't have a choice in challenging, you have

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Speaker 2: to take the submissive path.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I agree often, but I that's I

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Speaker 4: challenge that because I will always challenge. And that's what

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Speaker 4: Dad and Mum have helped me. Stand up for yourself,

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Speaker 4: stand up for your friends, and you know, if what

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Speaker 4: you do doesn't hurt someone, and even.

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Speaker 3: Better, if it affects people in a good way, then

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing to do. And that's what the

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Speaker 1: message is about, is that you have got a choice

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Speaker 1: as a woman to challenge. Don't think that you don't

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Speaker 1: have a choice.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Challenging could also be just talking to someone about something

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Speaker 2: Can I bounce quickly into your because I know you

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Speaker 2: dyed your blue hair four Beyond Blue this year to

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Speaker 2: promote coms around mental health. Again, if I can tie

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Speaker 2: that in back into International Women's Day, I can see

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Speaker 2: a direct correlation with men and depression because men, stereotypically speaking,

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Speaker 2: hide things, bottle things, don't deal with them, don't want

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Speaker 2: to show anyone that they're dealing with them. But I

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Speaker 2: think what's interesting what I was trying to tie it

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Speaker 2: in with the femininity side of things is I feel

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Speaker 2: like there's a lot more pressure on women publicly to

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Speaker 2: look and appear graceful, attractive, all those sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot of the time where I feel

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Speaker 2: like the anxiety comes in because there's this level of

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Speaker 2: performance as a woman, which I don't think men attract

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Speaker 4: Well, I think something really funny that I remembered from

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Speaker 4: a few years ago when I played at Brisbane, when

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Speaker 4: we won every game that year except for the Currand Final,

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Speaker 4: which is not ideal, but we won every game.

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Speaker 3: We're always singing the team song.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 4: Everyone was always high fiving and stuff. And this is

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Speaker 4: the way I am because when I'm focused. Obviously, I'm

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Speaker 4: not having the biggest smile on my face or smile

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Speaker 4: whenever I want. But we're in the team song and

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Speaker 4: an over grinning Yeah, you know, I wasn't overly crazy.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't jumping around and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But that's just me, Like I'm never I truly believe

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Speaker 4: that if you ride the highs really high, then inevitably

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Speaker 4: the loads are low too. So when you know, in

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Speaker 4: the team song in the middle of the season, I'm

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Speaker 4: not going yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Kind of just stand there around going along. But then

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Speaker 3: I got all.

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Speaker 4: These like this kind of theme of these people like

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Speaker 4: saying and asking why does she never smile?

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Speaker 3: Or messages you should smile more like all that sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff, and I'm like exhaust But I remember that.

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Speaker 4: I was like, how did you even notice that? Like yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I looked at myself on the thing.

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Speaker 3: Even if you notice it, I was like, it's not

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Speaker 3: even like I am like, is that do I have

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Speaker 3: to is it teeth?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Do I have to do teeth or smile if I

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Speaker 3: want to smile? Interestingly, Coldgate got on board, though. You

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Speaker 3: became the face of Colgate that.

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Speaker 4: Was, and all of a sudden she was smiling.

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Speaker 2: Always smiling. That's good stuff. You are so inspiring twenty

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Speaker 2: three years old. You wouldn't believe it, but it's been

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Speaker 2: an absolute pleasure to talk to you about international women's

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Speaker 2: so it really has been hear more of the boys

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Speaker 2: on the Full Show podcast. You know you want to