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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: While some couples are loved up and working on their relationships,

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Speaker 2: other couples are married at first sight are already fighting,

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Speaker 2: lying and cheating. Jonesy, this is your lifeblood, you said,

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Speaker 2: married at first sight.

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Speaker 3: It's my meth anthetamine of TV.

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Speaker 2: You're very excited that our next guest, John Aiken is

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Speaker 2: joining us this morning. He had to read the contestants

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Speaker 2: the Riot Act the other night.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard some things sitting on this couch, but

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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from you, Shannon, and also I'll include

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Speaker 1: you and this Harrison. We're two guys that applied for

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Speaker 1: an experiment that over ten thousand people put their hands

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Speaker 1: up for and a week before coming in, you're hanging

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Speaker 1: out with an X. That is unacceptable. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: told us that, I'd tell what our answer would have been.

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Speaker 3: Not a chance, Not a chance. And I likened this John,

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Speaker 3: Good morning by.

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Speaker 4: The John, Amanda, always good to talk.

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Speaker 3: Always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: I liken this John with You're about to go into

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Speaker 5: an ofice health retreats, so you stock up on all

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Speaker 5: the fat and the sugar and the booze before you

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Speaker 5: go into the health retreat. So maybe that's what Harrison

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Speaker 5: was doing.

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Speaker 4: Well. I mean, I didn't like his attitudes, nor did

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Speaker 4: I like Shannon's. I've never heard that before. In ten seasons,

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Speaker 4: no one said I was catching up with my girlfriend

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Speaker 4: before coming on to the experiment. I thought it was

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Speaker 4: Paul Foreman. I had to tell him that.

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Speaker 2: But what about Shannon, who has in a state of remorse.

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Speaker 2: He did reveal that he was still in love with

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Speaker 2: his ex. Surely that's the end of the line. I

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Speaker 2: know they vote to stay in because they want to

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Speaker 2: stay on, but surely that would be caused for dismissal

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Speaker 2: from the show.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well you certainly you're thinking along those lines. But

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Speaker 4: you think also, well they've got a week to turn

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Speaker 4: it around. If this guy does want to stay in

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Speaker 4: the experiment, then he's got some heavy lifting to do

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Speaker 4: this week with intimacy week, you find out whether actually

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Speaker 4: his actions are going to prove that he's into her

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Speaker 4: or not.

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Speaker 5: Do you find with these guys, because you're a bit

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Speaker 5: older than them, do you find that it's just a

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Speaker 5: millennial thing.

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Speaker 3: Do you look at him and you say, come on,

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Speaker 3: you guys, what's the matter?

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Speaker 4: Jonesy? I mean, look you know, sometimes I'm sitting there

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Speaker 4: in my head, I'm thinking, you know, when I'm going

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Speaker 4: to give them a serve. They've probably never been spoken

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Speaker 4: to in a direct way like this before, because when

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Speaker 4: I do deliver some home truths, you can see it

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Speaker 4: in their face. They're shocks. They're being held to account,

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Speaker 4: perhaps for the first time. And it makes me think that,

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Speaker 4: you know, the younger generation, perhaps they just do these

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Speaker 4: toxic patterns without ever really stopping and thinking how it

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Speaker 4: affects people.

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Speaker 2: What about for example, Harrison and Bronti, they're living in

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Speaker 2: separate apartments. Bronte is refusing really to have anything to

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Speaker 2: do with them. If someone really wants to leave the experiment,

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Speaker 2: I know the rules are if one of you wants

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Speaker 2: to stay, you both stay. But isn't it frightening and

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Speaker 2: toxic that they're made to stay when someone really doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to be there.

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Speaker 4: It is a good point, Amanda, if they really want

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Speaker 4: to go, they can go. And we've had that on

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Speaker 4: a number of experiments previously, where they try to stay

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Speaker 4: together and they don't and so they leave. So we

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Speaker 4: have that rule in place, generally speaking, and we've seen

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Speaker 4: couples turn it around in the past, but for some

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Speaker 4: it's just too much and they're free to go.

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Speaker 5: Do you find the spoiler alerts on social media? Is

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Speaker 5: that a good thing or a bad thing for the show?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm going to be honest, it's pretty

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Speaker 4: frustrating when people come out and talk about what what

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Speaker 4: happens in the storylines. But at the same time, I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, when this show is on, everything that gets

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Speaker 4: spoken about with Maths just generates more and more conversation

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing that I like about it because

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Speaker 5: it builds up this community of Maret at First Sight

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Speaker 5: contest and we had Bryce he used to work with us,

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Speaker 5: so he used to be in the studio and then

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Speaker 5: he parlayed that to go on to Meredith First So,

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Speaker 5: which was kind of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they go on to these different careers. Afterwards,

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Speaker 4: they do tend to gather together, these Maths alum where

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Speaker 4: they love to catch up. They often beat each other

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Speaker 4: up in celebrity boxing matches and it's a very strange

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Speaker 4: sort of life that they lead after the show, some

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Speaker 4: of them. But I just watched with interest to see

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Speaker 4: what's going to happen to them.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell from the very beginning. Who's going to

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Speaker 2: make it and who's not. I mean, I know that

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Speaker 2: everyone's hoping there'll be a cam and jewels in there somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Can you predict who that might be?

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Speaker 4: I cannot. I'm going to be totally honest, Like when

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Speaker 4: I put them together, you know, we do two months

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Speaker 4: of testing and getting to know them, but ultimately we

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Speaker 4: can't be sure where there's going to be chemistry, and

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Speaker 4: also we can't be sure how they're going to act

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Speaker 4: when the cameras are on. Typically you find out the

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Speaker 4: true self about two or three weeks in when the

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Speaker 4: masks get removed and suddenly you're seeing the real person.

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Speaker 4: And that's when we sit back. We're shocked, you know,

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Speaker 4: from you know, the the Olivia dorm arch rivalry from

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Speaker 4: last year. We had no idea that was coming. So

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Speaker 4: it consistently surprises us.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's extraordinary.

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Speaker 5: Olivia is now on only fans, So she used to

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Speaker 5: be a school teacher and now she's doing hardcore.

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Speaker 2: Porn on the inter can't you get into boxing?

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Speaker 3: But that's nuts, don't you think that's sort of we're

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Speaker 3: at this diston.

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Speaker 4: You and I Jonesy, You and I we don't do

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Speaker 4: the Only Fans. We've drawn the line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy to do a collab with This could

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Speaker 3: be a thing like Mick Jagger and David Bowie in

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Speaker 3: Dad's in the Street.

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Speaker 4: That's right, I mean, would be unique, there's no denying it.

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Speaker 4: But I do think, Look, there's there's different different ways

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Speaker 4: in which people can be famous post the show that

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Speaker 4: certainly weren't there four years ago, you know, with the podcast,

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Speaker 4: the Only Fans, you know, the Instagram influences, so there's

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Speaker 4: a real life that opens up for them.

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Speaker 5: And then you look at Melissa and Bryce.

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Speaker 3: They've got little twins.

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Speaker 2: In the world. Real life just kicked in, that's.

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Speaker 5: Right, and he's making a goal of it. So that's

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Speaker 5: that's that's kind of good. So maybe there is a

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Speaker 5: happy ending to all this.

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Speaker 4: And we've had about four couples that are again Michael

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Speaker 4: and Martha are about.

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Speaker 3: To have a baby.

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Speaker 4: You've got cam and Jewels, and Johnny and Kerry got

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Speaker 4: married the other day, and then you got Bryce and Melissa.

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Speaker 4: So it does work, but it is very difficult for

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Speaker 4: these guys because they're very big personalities, and also the

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Speaker 4: intense pressure of the cameras on the twenty four to

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Speaker 4: seven is a lot to put up with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, John, you're doing a great I'm looking forward

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Speaker 5: to you doing the voice of God saying throwing them

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Speaker 5: out of the garden of Eden, leave the village.

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Speaker 3: Now to keep the fig leaves on. Please take it

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Speaker 3: for only fans, John, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: It is a pleasure and I've learned something today. Max

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Speaker 4: is the myth and Sturdays TV and.

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Speaker 3: You're my dealer man hook me up.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, Thank you, joh and I look forward

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Speaker 4: to talking against nice to talk.

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Speaker 3: Thanks John.

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Speaker 5: You can catch Married at First Sight again tonight at

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Speaker 5: seven thirty on Channel nine and nine now