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Speaker 1: I was very excited when I saw this in the news.

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, let's straight away get onto this and

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Speaker 1: you study to give millions of ozzie men affected by

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Speaker 1: hair loss a bit of hope with perhaps ae cure

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Speaker 1: from baldness. And this is from the University of California.

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Speaker 1: And I've got the gentleman on the phone. What's his name,

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Speaker 1: maxim Plicus better known as Max Max Morning, How are

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Speaker 1: you good morning? I've got to tell you there is

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Speaker 1: not a bald man in the world who isn't chanting

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Speaker 1: your name right now.

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Speaker 2: That's exciting to hear because we are excited about this research.

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Speaker 1: What I wouldn't give to have hair again, even though

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Speaker 1: I haven't had it for thirty years. But there've been

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Speaker 1: so many cures touted over the years. None of them

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Speaker 1: have actually worked, and we've all had our heads licked

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Speaker 1: by a cow. This one's looking good, though, right, I hope.

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Speaker 2: So people tend to underestimate just how complicated hair is.

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Speaker 2: People think, well, how difficult can it be anything that

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Speaker 2: modern nature created? It is complicated. It takes time to

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Speaker 2: figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I've often thought, if you water a dead plant, it

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Speaker 1: can regrow. I'm no scientist. But I am a bald

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Speaker 1: guy who has a comb and I live in Hope.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible to regrow the hand?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, the plant analogy is kind of a

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Speaker 2: good one upon common form of hair loss. You know,

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Speaker 2: your hair follicle. They don't disappear, They stem cells. They

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Speaker 2: don't go away, right, So they're not dead, you know,

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Speaker 2: they dormant. And what they are doing they idling. They

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Speaker 2: waiting for a trigger molecules to activate them. And that's

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Speaker 2: the culturt. The trigger molecules become deficients. You just don't

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Speaker 2: have enough of them, and they waiting and waiting and waiting.

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Speaker 1: They've been waiting on my head for a long time,

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Speaker 1: longer than I've waited for a bus on a rainy day. Osteopontin,

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Speaker 1: tell me about this and how you've come to this

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Speaker 1: conclusion that it's going to work.

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Speaker 2: What I tell to people is we had nature do

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Speaker 2: the most important experiment. Nature created millions of people with

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Speaker 2: hairy skin moles walking around this heart. It works millions

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Speaker 2: of times. But Nature left no notes so to crack

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Speaker 2: the code of a hairy mole. Actually what makes small

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Speaker 2: hair become big and long? It was not very simple

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Speaker 2: but we went at it for about a decade. What

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Speaker 2: we came out with with the molecule called off Ponting.

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Speaker 2: It's the molecule, the signaling molecule that potently tell hair

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Speaker 2: stemselves to octivate, and we think that's the essence of

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Speaker 2: a hairy mole.

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Speaker 1: How far away from this being on the shelf with

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Speaker 1: the chemistry.

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Speaker 2: Good question. We hope it's sooner rather than later. There

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Speaker 2: is a clinical trial that's going to start this year.

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Speaker 2: A company picks it up in California and they're going

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Speaker 2: to test it out and actual people. I have pretty

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Speaker 2: good confidence it should work, just because it already works

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Speaker 2: and millions of people in the mole The question is

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Speaker 2: will it work when applied.

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Speaker 1: Onto this you use micro needles similar to the ones

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Speaker 1: used in botox treatments, and then what's the turnaround time

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Speaker 1: before you start buying briol cream.

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Speaker 2: More kills like this. They should work fairly quickly because

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Speaker 2: once they awaken hair stamfils, hair starts to grow within weeks.

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Speaker 2: Within weeks, one should see your hair sprouting. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: take long.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to nominate you for the Nobel Peace Price.

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Speaker 2: Let's don't do that. There are bigger things out there.

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Speaker 1: Is not allow me to be the guinea in your pig.

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Speaker 1: Any spare ones you got light around, any vials, ship

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Speaker 1: them over to me and I'll tell you what. I'll

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Speaker 1: go for it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got you number.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a no to me anyway. Wow, that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: And obviously hair loss is an issue for women as well,

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Speaker 1: not just men, but for men it's suffer from male

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Speaker 1: patent bordness. I'm telling you, I'm going to get this done, Meg,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to be known as as Handsome Phil,

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Speaker 1: Hairy Phil.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have a big affro.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know what I'm going to have. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen the movie No Country

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Speaker 1: for All Men with the Harvey of bar Ten. I

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Speaker 1: think that his name. I was thinking more sideshow Bob Well.

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Speaker 1: I think you know it doesn't matter. One day I'll

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Speaker 1: be Jim Morrison, the next I'll be Billy Idol. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you