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Speaker 1: But we know that overnight another rampage through the Alice CBD,

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Speaker 1: police were highly concerned about members of the public. They

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Speaker 1: took to social media to warn locals to stay away

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Speaker 1: from the area. Now, Just Enterprise says the Northern Territories

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Speaker 1: youth crime problem. She said this earlier in the week before.

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Speaker 1: The incidents from overnight are the direct result of the

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Speaker 1: failure to protect kids from abuse and it may take

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Speaker 1: bringing in the AFP or the ADF to solve the problem.

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Speaker 1: Senator just Enterprise joins me on the line right now,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Senator, goodning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are they not too bad now? Senator, I know

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Speaker 1: that you're in Canberra's Parliament sitting right now, but what

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Speaker 1: are people telling you in Alice Springs this morning? Following

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Speaker 1: another incredibly dangerous situation overnight.

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Speaker 2: You know again locals are beside themselves with what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were at the end of our heather

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Speaker 2: with feeling completely and utterly unsafe on our street and

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Speaker 2: there was a time, you know, not long ago, a

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Speaker 2: few years ago, where it was suggested when when Peter

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Speaker 2: Kittle was broken into and several cars were walked on

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Speaker 2: and stomped on and smashed, you know, prior to locals

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Speaker 2: to stop that sort of behavior that you know, it

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Speaker 2: was suggested that the ADF set up at somewhere like

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Speaker 2: Leather Skype Park, hold a section of that area where

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Speaker 2: you know, these young people can be taken to and

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Speaker 2: triaraged and and then understood what needs to go from

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Speaker 2: there in terms of, you know, do they need to

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Speaker 2: be charged, they need to be taken into you know,

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Speaker 2: if they're young children, are they then to be taken

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Speaker 2: into child protection or you know what needs to happen

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Speaker 2: in this situation. I think we're at that point where

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Speaker 2: World War definitely actually passed that point again where this

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Speaker 2: you know, the Chief Minister go to Alice Springs and

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Speaker 2: find out if this is what locals want, then this

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Speaker 2: is what this is something that needs to be absolutely

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Speaker 2: considered because it's become beyond a joke. It's like a

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Speaker 2: battlefield on our streets, and there's you know, there's no shift,

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Speaker 2: there's no change, there's nothing happening to address this immediate crisis.

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Speaker 1: Senator, I've no doubt that you're going to be held

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Speaker 1: down by labor for saying this. I've got no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. They reckon what they're doing will make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it will.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've been saying that for years and the only

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Speaker 2: difference it's making is making it worse. That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: It's going from bad two worse to absolutely detrimental. So

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Speaker 2: they can say all they want, but the proof is

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Speaker 2: in what's happening on our street. That's where the proof lies.

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Speaker 2: And what it's telling us is that nothing that they're

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Speaker 2: doing is actually effective. And are they're waiting for a death,

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Speaker 2: another death or another few deaths. You know, we've had

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Speaker 2: a local man already has his life taken when he

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Speaker 2: was hit on his motorbike. What more do we need

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Speaker 2: for this government to wake up to themselves. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's like they're not going to be They're not. They

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Speaker 2: won't act until it's a young Aboriginal kid that is killed.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if they're killed by a non avaginal person.

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Speaker 2: Then that's when they think it's you know, it's time

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Speaker 2: to act on something. It shouldn't be the case. The

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Speaker 2: throughout other communities are sick to death, are feeling unsafe

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Speaker 2: normalizing this sort of behavior in our community. It's become normalized.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no school children need to desensitize. It was

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Speaker 2: not like this when I was growing up in Alice

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Speaker 1: It is becoming normalized. And you know the point is here,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And it's getting worse because because these

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Speaker 2: the same young people are going, well, let's do this again.

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Speaker 2: Let's have another go at this. This seems to be

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Speaker 2: you know. And it's not just you know, we're we're

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Speaker 2: Once somebody starts a fire and sees it go off,

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Speaker 2: with this ramming police cars with stolen vehicles. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how much worse does it have to get?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is what everybody's asking themselves, I think

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Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, look, we send our troops abroad

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Speaker 2: We have the resources in the country, you know, to

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Speaker 2: use them. That's you know, there is nowhere else to

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Speaker 2: go from here. Our police are under the hump. The

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Speaker 2: hand are tired. They're leaving in drogues. You know, you've

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Speaker 2: so they want to punish people for, you know, using

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Speaker 1: Just seem to you know, what would you say to

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Speaker 2: Need back up, they need absolute support. And anyone who

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Speaker 2: ask them, well, what is it that you're what what

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Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I do want to ask you.

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Speaker 1: We know that the Masters Games have been canceled again.

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Speaker 1: They're not happening now until twenty twenty four. I know

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Speaker 1: that's a very separate situation to what we've just spoken about,

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's not the beginning of the cancelation

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Speaker 2: of that that now we're in such a horrible situation

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Speaker 2: that you know, we're not able to have huge events

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Speaker 2: we're not heading down that path.

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Speaker 1: Well, just enter Price. I always appreciate your time. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Anything we should know about happening in Canberra today as

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Speaker 1: Parliament sits just.

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Speaker 2: This federal Labor government is trying to got a ham

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Speaker 2: fisted approach at attempting to shove through twenty pieces of

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Speaker 2: it's undemocratic to have the real opportunity to be able

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Speaker 2: to debate legislation effectively. That affects the lives of everyday

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Speaker 2: Austilian's and we don't know whether you know the industrial relations,

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Speaker 2: what the outcome of that is going to be just yet.

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Speaker 2: And we're relying on independence like Pocock to do the

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Speaker 2: right thing, certainly by small business owners who you know

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Speaker 2: we're fighting on behalf of to make sure that we've

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Speaker 2: already got a niche issue where there's a labor shortage

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Speaker 2: in the country. We don't want for a small businesses

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Speaker 2: to shut their doors or stop hiring people. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll wait and see by the end of these two weeks,

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Well, Senator, we always appreciate your time. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on this morning. We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Katie, thank you