1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: I just gave the commencement speech at my alma manor, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: which was absolutely terrifying, and. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: It was the whole thing, all of the thoughts we've 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: just talked about. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I was like, why am I? Why have they asked 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: me to be here? No one's going to even know 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: who I am? 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Like what am I doing? Why am I giving this speech? 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: And you know, interesting, it was different because I had 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: to sit up on the stage for quite a while 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: before it got to me giving the speech, So it 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was backstage like getting to pace around. 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 2: I was just I was like on. 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Stage with everyone while the rest of the commencement ceremony 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: went on, waiting to do my thing. And I think 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: it I think at that point it just becomes sort 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: of like an internal like like breathing and like focusing inward, 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: like a little like talk like okay, we got this year. 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: We go like this is fine, like just you can 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: do this, kind of like a little inner pep talk. 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's at least what I did for that. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Welcome to How I Work, a show about the tactics 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: used by leading innovators to get so much out of 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: their day. I'm your host, Doctor Amantha Imba. I'm an 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: organizational psychologist, the founder of innovation consultancy Inventium, and I'm 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: obsessed with finding ways to optimize my work day. My 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: guest today is Abby Jacobson. Abby is the co creator, writer, director, 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: and executive producer and star of the critically acclaimed Comedy 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: Central show broad City with Atlanta Glazer, and this is 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: how I first became familiar with her work. So I 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: am a hardcore fan of broad City and would go 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: so fast to say that I think it's the funniest 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 3: show on TV right now, although it has recently wrapped 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: its fifth and final season, which is very sad. 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: Seriously, though, if. 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: You have not watched broad City or have no idea 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: It should seriously check it out now. 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Aside from broad City, Abby has done a stack of things, 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: ranging from voicing the character Bean in Netflix's series Disenchantment 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: by Matt Gronig, hosting the podcast A Piece of Work 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: with WNYC and MoMA in which she discusses modern and 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: contemporary art, and she's also written and illustrated a stack 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: of New York Times best selling books, ranging from I 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: Might Regret This, which is a memoir style collection of 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: essays to illustrated book Carry this Book and two coloring 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: books called Color This Book New York City and Color 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: This Book San Francisco. 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: So I was very excited. 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 3: And also very nervous to get the chance to chat 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: with Abby, someone who I have watched on TV for 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: five seasons. 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: Of Broad City. 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: And I think you'll find this a really honest chat 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: with someone who is now in an interesting space in 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: her life, having wrapped Broad City, which she literally worked 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: on for the last ten years of her life, and 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: is now exploring a bunch of other creatives, which makes 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: for an exciting but also pretty stressful time. And I 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: think if you've ever been between jobs or if you're 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: a freelancer, you'll be able to relate to a lot 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: of what Abby says. And also if you've ever thought 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: about getting a pet, I think you'll find it fascinating 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: how Abby describes the impact of getting a dog and 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: what this has done to her headspace. 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: So on that note, over to Abby to hear about 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: how she works. 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: Now, I want to start with looking at the creative process, 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: because you do a lot of different things. 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: You write, you draw, edit, you produce, your perform. 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: And I want to know which of those parts of 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: the process do you find most challenging. 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: It would definitely be the writing part, I think, and 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it's also the most satisfying part when it's finished for me, 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I think, because in that part of my process, it's 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: the creating, that's the full creation, that's the beginning, that's 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: like starting with nothing. 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense. 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: And do you have different routines or rituals that you 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: use for your writing? And I guess, like depending on 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: the type of writing that you're doing as well, whether 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: it's a book or a script, what does that look like. 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely varies, and it varies even within like 84 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the script world, because sometimes you know. 85 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: Like for broad City, we were. 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: On such a schedule, So deadlines for me are extremely helpful. 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: And when I'm working on a show, you know, there 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: are these ingrained deadlines within that process because you have 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: to send the you have to send various drafts to 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: the network, and there's just like a very structured process 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: to it, which I find very helpful. And then when 92 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm working on a script alone, it's very difficult to 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: keep myself to my own deadlines. 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: And that was sort of the process with the book. 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: The writing my last book, I m regret this was 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: primarily essays, and the book before that was drawings, and 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: I guess the process is still the same where I 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: have this long looming deadline and that is so scary 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: because there's so many mini deadlines in between there that 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I have to figure out a way to hold myself accountable. 101 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: So sometimes it's getting a friend to to be like, 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: I am going to send you this, you know by 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: this time, and you know, hold me accountable because there's 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: there's hundreds of deadlines before the book is due, you know. 105 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: So a lot of. 106 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: It for me is list making, and you know, getting 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: to cross things off of a list for myself is 108 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: so extremely satisfying that I've become like addicted to that. 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: I like that idea of telling a friend that you've 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: got I guess creating a false deadline with a friend. 111 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: What made you start doing that? 112 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I think that it naturally organically started with Alana because 113 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: we work together and work very well together, and you know, 114 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: when we write, we go. 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Off to script on our scripts. 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: We would write act one together and then we would 117 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: go off and each take an act and then come back. 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: And so there was just like in already in the 119 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: process thing of us having to come back and we 120 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: like had to be accountable. 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: Because if one of us didn't have it, it'd be 122 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: like what's going on here? 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: But like we never we never did that because we 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: would never want to let the other person down in 125 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: that way. 126 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: And I don't always do it. And when I. 127 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Do do that, it's with other people that work in 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: similar ways, so they understand those deadlines. So usually it's 129 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: another writer, or it's a Lana or just someone else 130 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: that you know at some point they can use me 131 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: for that as well. 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: Also, it's a little bit out of. 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: Desperation to be honest, where it's like when I was 134 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: writing the last book, there was a point where I 135 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: was like, listen to my friend Jen. I was like, listen, 136 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: if I don't finish this essay by tomorrow night, like. 137 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: You can't be friends with me anymore. 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: So like for real, like you cannot speak to me, 139 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: and so like I would like pretend like that was the. 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Reality if I didn't finish it. It's mostly when. 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm speaking in like first draft, where I'm like spewing 142 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: out something, not in like last draft. 143 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 5: How do you overcome those moments? 144 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: Where you feel stuck, like where it's you know, writer's 145 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: block or some kind of equivalent. Do you have strategies 146 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: to get yourself unstuck? 147 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I wish I had some sort of 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: revolutionary thing. I am someone who listens to these kinds 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: of stories and process stories that other creatives do to 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: try and figure out the best way for myself. I 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: think for me, I'm a little not clinically diagnosed, but 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm a little add with my work habits. So I 153 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: usually will move over to something else for a bit 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: to keep it like creatively going if I'm stuck on something, 155 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and that's really just a productive procrastination. 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: But I, especially when I'm in New York, I walk 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: a lot. 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: I will just like go out for a walk around 159 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the city and hope that by the time I come back, 160 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: I will, you know, have figured it out, or have 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: figured out some. 162 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: Sort of nugget of what I'm trying to work on, 163 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: or it depends on where I am. 164 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: But I have a problem sometimes working from home because 165 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: I get very easily distracted with Munday and things around 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: the house, and so I'll go somewhere like a library 167 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: or a coffee shop or somewhere where I know I 168 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: can work on my computer or in my notebook, and 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: I won't leave until I finish, Like I'm going there 170 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: to do the thing, and I have to finish it there. 171 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: It's really these like psychological, like fake promises. 172 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: I kept to keep with myself. 173 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: Like you're playing tricks on yourself. 174 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: West, I feel like I think that they're necessary. 175 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't understand how. 176 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, especially when I'm we're talking in the writing 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: part of it. I don't understand people that can just 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: write every day from these hours. 179 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: I just can't. I haven't figured that out yet. 180 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: I like the sound of going for these walks, like 181 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: when you're on the walk, and this might sound like 182 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: a weird question, are you are you listening to anything 183 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: or are you just walking in silence and just kind 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: of visually consuming what's going on around you. 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both. 186 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: I actually call it wolfing around because I I don't 187 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: know if there was at one point this was in 188 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: my book, but I don't know if it may it 189 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: made it. It's because I think Virginia Wolf did that, 190 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and like in the In the Hours in that movie, 191 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: she's like, you know, Nicole Kidman is like walking really 192 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: like kind of like focused and unfocused at the same 193 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: time around London or village in England where she lived, 194 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: and I think I also have read that she goes 195 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: and just walks when she when she needed to, and 196 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: so I internally call it like wolfing around and because 197 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: she's also extremely inspiring. And in New York, I tend 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: to listen to more music when I'm walking around and 199 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: when I'm in LA because really the only place to 200 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: walk and the only place I really love to walk 201 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: here is in nature, which is sort of the opposite 202 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: of what I get to do in New York. And 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: also in New York, I find the city inspiring, and 204 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: in LA I find hiking really inspiring. 205 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: And so when I'm hiking, I don't listen to anything, but. 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: When I'm in the city, I do, or I do 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: only when the city sounds like get to be too much. 208 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: I've heard that you a self described workaholic. Is that 209 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: is that still how you refetted yourself? 210 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 5: Sometimes I do. 211 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a weird place right now where you know. 212 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Broad City ended recently, and I have all these projects 213 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: going and they're all at different stages. But nothing is 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: concrete anymore, Like you know, Broad City for you know, 215 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: we did five seasons, but that is about seven years. 216 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: And then I've been doing the web series for three years, 217 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: so I've been doing it for ten years. 218 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: So that's been like the thing in my life. 219 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Even if we had three months on hiatus every now 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and then, that's been a thing I've always been coming 221 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: back to. 222 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: So right now, I'm. 223 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: I'm in this sort of untethered like long slack rope 224 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: of like working where I don't know exactly which way 225 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to go, but I'm working on a lot 226 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: of different things, which allows me. 227 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: More time to wolf around. 228 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: But also it's a little mormonic because there is this 229 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: underlying sense of anxiety. So I do find myself thinking 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: about different projects more and. 231 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: I just yeah, I am still very much a workaholic. 232 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: It's my main thing. 233 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: How do you manage that when you're juggling lots of 234 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: different projects, presumably all creative projects? Like do you compartmentalize? 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 3: Do you almost schedule out time when you're going to 236 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: be working on each project? 237 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 5: Like how does that work in your world? 238 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: At the moment, I think I wish I was more 239 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: like that, where I could sort of sort of have 240 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 6: like a block schedule, like if you remember from like school, 241 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: like high school, where you have like a like these chunks. 242 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: But because I don't and I don't go into an office, 243 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: so I'm working from home right now, and so it's 244 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: sort of my day is sort of like I wake 245 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: up and I I work out or whatever, and then 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I make a list of like what I need to 247 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: accomplish for that day, and then that includes all of 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: my projects, and it's sort of like little baby steps 249 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: for each project. And I have a lot of these 250 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: lists around, So I have a notebook where I make 251 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the list in the morning, and then I have a 252 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: big whiteboard that has all the projects listed, and then 253 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: I sort of have these. 254 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Like middle ground bigger, bigger. 255 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Milestones I know I need to hit in like the 256 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: next coming days or weeks, and a lot of that 257 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: is based on where each project is. So like today 258 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: I have, you know, if I have like a call 259 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: about a script, that will like ignite that project to 260 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: like move forward, so I I'll get like farther ahead 261 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: with one and then. 262 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Have to catch up with another. Yeah, it's different every day. 263 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: This is actually making me think about my process a 264 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: little bit. 265 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: I would love to be a little more strict and 266 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: like organized in that way, but it feels also like 267 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: it's working for me. 268 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: To be a little bit less. 269 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I am actually liking being a little 270 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: more loose with it right now. 271 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it sounds like your process is or almost 272 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: like quite analog. Like I'm imagining your notebook with the 273 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: things that you're crossing off and your white would like 274 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: is that by design that you do keep it fairly 275 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: in the analog world as opposed to the digital world. 276 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my calendar is very digital, but yeah, 277 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I am pretty analog. 278 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: I like I like things to feel tangible. 279 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: And the physical crossing off of something is more important 280 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: than than I would have thought it would be. 281 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 282 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I think when you finish something, even if it's just 283 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: a crossing off of something, that's like a little celebration. 284 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: And I like to put the list on as many 285 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: places so I can cross off as many times as 286 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: I can. And writing stuff for me too is a 287 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: big I don't know, it like sinks into my brain 288 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: more if I write it physically. 289 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't write a lot of things I don't write. 290 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Like scripts or essays long form, but when I'm coming 291 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: up with ideas and brainstorming that is almost always on paper. 292 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: That's interesting. 293 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: And I want to say, like, in this busy schedule 294 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: with lots of projects, do you do you sort of 295 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: try to carve out time to relax or simply be bored? 296 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Because I find that, like with most worcoholics, I know, 297 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: those two things kind of just fall by the wayside. 298 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: What does that look like in your life? 299 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 300 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know I need to do that more. 301 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting because again what I was saying before, how 302 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm in this place all of a sudden where I 303 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: don't have this concrete thing, this concrete job. I have 304 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of these mini jobs and I don't 305 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: know what will happen with them. And right now is 306 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the time where I'm supposed to be like taking a break, 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: and I can't quite figure out how to do that. 308 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: I recently got a dog, and in the past couple 309 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: of weeks that has been, interestingly the thing that has 310 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: made me stop working as much and be present. How sorry, 311 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: how said I like I wasn't on social I haven't 312 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: been on social media as much and unless I like 313 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: sort of have to be for something, and I don't know, 314 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm always like going. 315 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: On walks with him and. 316 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Just like be like hanging out with him and being 317 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: present and not focusing as much on the anxiety of work, 318 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and then when I do work, I feel like I'm 319 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: more efficient. I mean, I hope this continues, because it's 320 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm making it sound really nice. 321 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I guess that's also. 322 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Maybe when people have kids or they're sort of forced 323 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: to be outside of their head all the time. 324 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 5: That sounds really lovely, like what the dog's brought into 325 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 5: your life. 326 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: I know. 327 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't really thought about it that much, 328 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think because even when I'm not actually 329 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: writing something or sitting at the computer struggling with something, 330 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: I am doing it in. 331 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: My head all the time. 332 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: I think that that's like a big problem with a 333 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: lot of people where the efficiency is well, the time 334 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: that you sit at the computer isn't even the whole 335 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: time you're working on the project. You're like struggling with 336 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: it in your mind all the time. And my dog 337 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: has allowed me to kind of take a break from 338 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: that or like I'm like I can't even focus on it, 339 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's really nice. 340 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: That's like, and you mentioned that the having the dog 341 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: has maybe got you off social media or a fit, 342 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: and I wanted to ask, what's what's your relationship like 343 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: with social media? Like you've got a crazy number a 344 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 3: million Instagram followers, Like is social media a source of inspiration, 345 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: a distraction? 346 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 5: Something negative? What is it like in your life? 347 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a very love hate relationship with 348 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: it because I would not have a career without it. 349 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: Like we made broad City as a web series and 350 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: put it out into the world on YouTube and then 351 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: shared it on all of the platforms we could find, 352 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: and not a lot of people watched it that way, 353 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: but it still was like the way that we put 354 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: it into the world. And so I will always have 355 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: a place in my heart for social media. 356 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: But now I have this like really. 357 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I really don't. I feel like 358 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: I need to have it for my career. It's the 359 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: way I can share what I'm doing, and it's almost 360 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: it's necessary sometimes, like it's part of the job, where 361 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: like I am supposed to be sharing the thing, you know, 362 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: in my contract for things, because it's how people find 363 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: out about content. And I think that sometimes it is 364 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: a wonderful vehicle for sharing stories and knowing what's going 365 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: on in the world. But I think it's also terrifying, 366 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: and I think it brings out the worst. 367 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: In people, especially on Twitter. 368 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: The anonymous commenting I really don't understand, and it really 369 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: makes me sad. 370 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: And yeah, I constantly want to be on it less. 371 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: Do you have almost like rules for yourself around how 372 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: to be on it less? Because it's you know, I 373 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: find like a lot of people have that intent these days, 374 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: but then obviously, you know, they've got attention engineers that 375 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: are making things as addictive as possible. Like how what's 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: your approach to actually using it and actually physically using 377 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: it less? 378 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't you. I haven't been on 379 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: Facebook for a couple. 380 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: Of years, and I am not on Twitter that often, 381 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and I find. 382 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Lately I'm usually just on. 383 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Twitter if I'm posting about a project or if I if. 384 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: I have just watched something or seen something. 385 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: That I want to share, but I don't comment hardly. 386 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: Ever, Like every once in a while I'll look on it. 387 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: And comment on like a friend's thing, or I'll repost 388 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: something that I think is important or like hilarious, and 389 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I feel the addiction way more because I 390 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: do just scroll it. But what I've done in the 391 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years as I followed, I think I 392 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: follow primarily friends, but then primarily artists. 393 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: So I've taken to following like. 394 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: Galleries and museums and all these up and coming and 395 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: known artists. So when I'm looking, I'm also looking at 396 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: things that I'm wildly inspired by all the time. And 397 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I really have been trying to like just get to 398 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: know more about the art world and become more a 399 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: part of it and know more about it. 400 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: And so at least if I'm going to be. 401 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: On there, I'm looking at stuff that I'm really interested in, 402 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: and it's not just like whatever, like whatever trash is 403 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: out there. But then I also see my addiction, Like 404 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: what I just posted something today, which is just. 405 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: Like I just got these beautiful. 406 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: Flowers and I was sitting at my computer and like 407 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: they all just like fell, like all the pedals just 408 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: like fell. And I was like, yep, that's how That's 409 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. Beautiful flowers falling, And so I just like, like, 410 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: why did I post that? 411 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: No idea? 412 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's like this weird addiction 413 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, looking at it right now, I'm looking 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: at my like what I've actually posted out on the stories, 415 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and it's mostly it's mostly all work stuff on purpose. Mmmmm, yeah, 416 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: I haven't really posted a lot that is not related 417 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: to a project. 418 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: I'd had to say in an interview that you felt 419 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: like back in Broad City and back in seasons one 420 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: and two, I think that you had a good case 421 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: of impostera syndrome, and I was curious. A lot of 422 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: people talk about impostera syndrome these days, and it's so common. 423 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: I was wondering for you, like, how did you transition 424 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: out of that? Or have you transitioned out of that? 425 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I think it goes in and out where I feel 426 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: way more confident now. 427 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: In actually being good at what I do. 428 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: But then again, I'll be at a thing like an 429 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: event or a panel or something, and I'll. 430 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: Be taken completely right back there. 431 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Where I'm like, what am I doing here? Why does 432 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: anyone care what I have to say about this topic? 433 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: And or if I'm like on a set, you know, 434 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I get I get very nervous before performances or new things, and. 435 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: I while that still is, you know, doubting. 436 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Myself and and you know, feeling that like some I'm 437 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: gonna be like exposed for not being good or or 438 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: actually I think it's good. 439 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: To have a little bit of that, is what I'm saying. 440 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: Where I get I'm happy that I still get very 441 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: nervous even if I maybe shouldn't be, like if I 442 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: have nothing to be nervous about, like I totally should 443 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: be on this panel of writers, or I should be 444 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: giving a talk, you know, at this event. Like if 445 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: there ever was a day where I was like, yeah, 446 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: I fucking should be here, it's like, fuck you. 447 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like that, Like I want. 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: To always be looking at myself and questioning, you know, 449 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: where I am right now in my career and sort 450 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: of measuring like how far I've come and know that 451 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: there's still so much farther to go. So like even 452 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: if I am really confident in what I'm doing right 453 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: now and the projects I'm working on, I still can 454 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: be so much better. 455 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: So there still is that. 456 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting that you kind of embrace 457 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: it when you're feeling that in plus to syndrome and 458 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: that nerves a good thing. I guess it says that 459 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: you know you care and also that you're not becoming 460 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: this complete arrogant monster. 461 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, I know those people, and I know 462 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: people that are like that, and I just I feel like, 463 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're like that when you're alone by yourself, 464 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: I think all the time, I think that there's something wrong. 465 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: I think you need to kind of check yourself because 466 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: I listen. 467 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: I I do want to be more kind of outwardly confident. 468 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like I'm showing my cards a little 469 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: too much with my insecurities. It changes every day for me. 470 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: I think I wanted to ask you just a couple 471 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: more questions. I'd heard that before doing a big scene 472 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: in broad City that you would shake hands with the 473 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: Lana and I found that such an interesting ritual, and 474 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: I was just wanting to know how did that start and. 475 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 5: What purpose did that serve for you guys. 476 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it began. 477 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: We used to do Broad City Live at the Upright 478 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Citizens Brigade Theater when we were doing the web series, 479 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: so it was like a monthly show that we continued 480 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: on doing. I think when we had the first season 481 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: of the show and the TV version, I mean, and 482 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: it started there backstage again, we would both be very 483 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: nervous and we would sort of it was a moment 484 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: with we didn't say this was why, but it was 485 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: a moment to stop for a second, slow down and 486 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: connect shake hands right before we were walking out with 487 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: this sort of enthusiasm, Like there was always this like big, 488 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: like enthusiastic ball of energy before we would go out, 489 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: and then we kept doing it. We did do it 490 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: before big scenes, but it was mostly before really big moments. 491 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: So you know, any huge show we've done, like live event, 492 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: those are tend to be more scary because you're in 493 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: front of like thousands of people, and usually we're in 494 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: front of a set of our crew that we know 495 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: and love. 496 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: So the big events were big handshake moments. 497 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: The I mean the big things like going and pitching 498 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: the show, going to meet with Amy Pohler before we 499 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, asked her to come on to be an 500 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: executive producer, and then it would be you know, we 501 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: definitely did it before we shot the last. 502 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: Scene of the show. 503 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever had a thing like 504 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: that where it is like a without saying hey, let's connect, 505 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: it was like, let's connect, and in that handshake, acknowledge 506 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: everything we want to do right now and everything we've 507 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: done to get here. 508 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: That's so cool. 509 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: And I was curious, do you like you sort of 510 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: spoken about how you know you still get nervous, you know, 511 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: for sitive, big performance occasions. Do you have a version 512 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: or something like that, an equivalent that you do just 513 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: with yourself to manage your own nerves, like perhaps when 514 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: you are working solo. 515 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I have messed around with breathing. 516 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: I need to get better at breathing. Although I do 517 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: do it every day. I still also don't worry. 518 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: But I. 519 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Just so I just had this. 520 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: I just gave the commencement speech at my alma manor, 521 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: which was absolutely terrifying, and it was the whole thing 522 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: all of the thoughts we've just talked about. I was like, 523 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: why am I Why have they asked me to be here? 524 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: No one's going to even know who I am? Like, 525 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: what am I doing? Why am I giving this speech? 526 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: And you know, interesting, it was different because I had 527 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: to sit up on the stage for quite a while before. 528 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: It got to me giving the speech. 529 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I was backstage like getting to 530 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: pace around. I was just I was like on stage 531 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: with everyone while the rest of the commencement ceremony went on, 532 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: waiting to do my thing. 533 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: And I think it. 534 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I think at that point it just becomes sort of 535 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: like an internal like like breathing and like focusing inward, 536 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: like a little like talk like okay, we got this, 537 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: here we go, like this is fine, Like just you 538 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: can do this, like kind of like a little inner 539 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: pep talk. I mean, that's at least what I did 540 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, the most recent terrifying thing. 541 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: And look, my final question is for people that are 542 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: having withdrawal from Broad City, not being on the air 543 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: anymore as I am having, how can people find you 544 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: and consume more of what you're doing now? 545 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, thank you anyone who is missing it, 546 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I think that you could check out I think my 547 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: book I might regret this is definitely if you haven't 548 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: read it, it's it's it's more in my humor, but 549 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: there's a a large chapter is about the whole formation 550 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: of broad City and about Alan and my process and 551 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: how we work together and all that, and that would 552 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: be the biggest one. It's out right now and it's 553 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: also on audiobook, and I read it and it comes 554 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: out on paperback in October. And then I voice the 555 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: role of being on this show on Netflix called Disenchantment, 556 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: and there's a season that's out right now. 557 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: The second season comes out in September. I have a 558 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: couple other books. 559 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: There's an illustrated book called Carry This Book. I have 560 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: two coloring books called Color This Book, New York and 561 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco. I have a podcast on WNYC with Museum 562 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: of Modern Art and it's called a Piece of Work. 563 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: And there's ten episodes where I'm talking about art and 564 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: modern art with a lot of my friends and curators. 565 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: That's something. 566 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bunch of stuff. 567 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 5: That's awesome. I'm going to link to all those in 568 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: the show notes. It's fantastic. 569 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, Abby, it's been an absolute pleasure talking. 570 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: To you, an absolute pleasure. 571 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I learned a lot and I need 572 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: to like improve some things in a good way. 573 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: That awesome, Like a therapy session you work for me, awesome. 574 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: We'll look have a lovely afternoon in la And yeah, 575 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: thank you so much, thank. 576 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: You so much for having me. Really such a pleasure. 577 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 4: So that is it for today's show. 578 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: I hope you liked my chat with Abby, and if 579 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: you haven't seen Broad City you're feeling a little bit 580 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: inspired to check it out. It is just hilarious, And 581 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: if you are enjoying how I work, I would love 582 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: it if you could leave a review in Apple Podcasts 583 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: or wherever you have listened to this episode. It is 584 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: awesome hearing feedback on the the shows. 585 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: That I spend so much time creating. So thank you. 586 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: If you've already left a review or a star rating, 587 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: you're awesome. And if you haven't, maybe take five or 588 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: ten seconds after this episode to do that. It would 589 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: be hugely appreciated. So that's it for today and I'll 590 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: see you next time.