1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Podcast you nine our voices Quick heads up. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on bros 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: and cons. We talk about real life and we're committed 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: to having open conversations with no filter. Some experiences and 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: tastes can be challenging to digest, so if you're easily reddled, 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: you probably want to see this one out. Listen to 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Discretion is advice. Support is always available. You can contact 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen or thirteen Young on one 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Thing nine two seven six or Aboriginal or Toy Straight Islanders. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's get it. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I've always struggled to, I guess, say no to people. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: I've always been that person to say yeah, you know, 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: or I'll help you, I'll help you, I'll do this 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: for you, I'll do that for you. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: You know. 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: They've always I've had a few people take advantage of it, 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: but that's you know, that's nothing major for me. Now, 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm quite knocked. And I seen Lizzie Collins 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: coming in and just like giving it to him, like 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: laughing at him, and like it just stayed in my mind. 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: And then obviously I'll see if I was to wear 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the tong of jersey like ten times. I'll do it 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: all over again to. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: Take us back to the area of the world. What 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: does that mean to you? What? What was that environment 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: like to you growing up? Let's go by the way 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 4: are back. 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: You'll know who it is. 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: The one and only Bros and com baby. Man, guys, 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: I'm excited where we're here of a very special guests today. 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: And man, it is an honor to introduce to you 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: guys the biggest, the baddest, the most ferocious. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: He goes by the name of the small Yo. 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: Just before we get to our guess, just quickly try 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: some something in the box in the oxy shred bank, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: which these guys have is he send us some protein 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: bars and man, this guy's been keeping us updated with 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: their latest drops. Let's go. 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 5: Let's go in now got the hops and ship protein bar. 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: Protein bars come on in the strawberry one. 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: He usually we don't eat on the podcast, but just 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: give it a quick taste. Man, protein bars. That just 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: came out. 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: Bro, I was gonna wait for the other guy to 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 5: come in, but you know what, chain gotta keep on rolling. 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: But what flavor do you got, Well, I've got what chocolate, ma'am? 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: This is strawberry like what chocolate. I can see now 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: why there's a lot of people eating this loves nothing. 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not very big on a strawberry. I'm not 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: a very big strawberry person in general. So let's just 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: give us the taste. 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: Mhm. But it's actually good. 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 4: I love a protein, but that tastes exactly like chocolate. 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 4: That's what you want. You know, you're di and you 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: need something. But just to remind you of of how 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: good life was back in the day. And too bad 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: Jay Lex is missing now. Unfortunately he wasn't able to 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: make it to the podcast show today. Chane's gotta keep 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: on rolling. He's got some commitments to his family that 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: he has to go through with, and you know, we're 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: happy to take them. This guest ourselves, we've seen Jay's 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: head everywhere, so it's yeah. 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 5: And it's that time of the year, guys. It's it's 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: coming to Christmas, it's coming towards the end of the year. 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: A lot of hectic things are going on, and we 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: totally understand. 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: We totally get it, and we get it. 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: If you guys don't even have time to watch this 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: YouTube video, but I doubt. 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: That you're gonna want to be sound on this but 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: because the guess that's coming on amazing. 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: Bro. Yeah, he's got a big, big story to tell. 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: He's got a big story to tell. Hopefully we can 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: tap into it. Speaking of stories, just finished watching the 75 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: docum menory did He and by? Fifty by fifty cent 76 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: on Netflix? What a crazy documentary. The fact that I 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: like the fact that it was so professionally done. Everything 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: was make like bang on proper documentary. Man, Like, this 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: guy has taken beef to a whole new level. 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: What do you think? 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: Well, but if there's anyone that you should turn the blind, 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: I too. When it comes to beef in America, it's 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: fifty cent. Hold on, Sorry, ladies and gentlemen. I forgot 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 5: to silence my phone. That's obviously one of our general rules. 85 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, a lot of a lot of is can 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: to learn from this guy. 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: This guy has proven that you don't have to be 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: a shooter to go against your enemies. 89 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: Fifty cent. Bro's here's a character. Man, here's one individual 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: that I've been like, I've just been witnessing over for 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: a lifetime now, and he's he's making major, big moves. 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: Every single week He's doing some thing or or creating 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: another documentary or making another series of power. 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: Do you think if it came down to it, he 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: did he gets out they actually want to go. 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure didn't get he didn't get granted belt. 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: No, okay, So do you think he did it? 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: Coming out? 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: Do you think fifty cent would stoop down to a 100 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: level of going to war with him if he had to? 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: Because he did he started starting the same shots. 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: No way with it. 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 5: With the amount of integrity fifty cent has built over 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 5: the years his businesses, his own his own brand, like 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: his own self development as as a character, as an individual, 106 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: I don't think he will ever stoop down to that level. 107 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 5: I think and sometimes he may be using that status 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 5: to advantage to just kind of clown people. 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: You know, do you reckon like he kind. 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: Of feel like he like he's he's a proper gangster, right, 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: I feel like he's a real gangster. But he's just 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: changed his energy into something or some people that he 113 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: usually beefed with in the past. He's changed the way 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: he handles beef. 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, well his. 116 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: His mature, it was very very mature, very wise about 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 5: every decision that he's making now. Obviously with this P 118 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 5: Diddy thing that's going on. Fuck, it's probably, if not 119 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: one of the biggest things that's ever come across fifty 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 5: cents controversial topics. And I think there's a there is 121 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: a couple of celebrities that are backing P Diddy throughout 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: this process. 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: Of course they are. They were all there were all 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: at the parties, that's what. Yeah, but come on, it's 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: already after watching his documentary P Diddy fuck man, Yeah, 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: guilty as fuck, brother well man. 127 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 5: But then again, there was evidence you know that he 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: was you know, there was CCTV footage, you know, and 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: he was basically dragging Cassie by the hair. And without 130 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 5: type of evidence, man, like, come on, like, even with 131 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: the people that are backing up, did he have you 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: guys even seen that evidence for yourself. 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: We gotta guess how we're excited. We're gonna start it off, 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: mister simple stuff. I hateed then, but oh, the cameras 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: are video rolling anyways, man, guys, I've got a big 136 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: announcement to make our six So I was actually so nervous, 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: but like only because I couldn't wait to meet this 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: guy here about his story. Alexi couldn't make it because 139 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: he had like some Christmas stuff going on. 140 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: There and I had some better stuff going on there. 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: They did want to photo So what we're gonna do 142 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: is we're gonna photo shop him in anyway, guys, ladies 143 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: and gentlemen. Before I waste any more time, I want 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: to introduce to you, guys the man Biggie smaller. 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: Man. 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: He's actually got a lot of mutual friends with us. 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: He grew up in the area around us as well. 148 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: And maybe we'll start off with that, like, take us 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: back to the area. What does that mean to you? 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: What what was that environment like to you growing up? 151 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 152 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Man, obviously being a Gifford Gifford junior born and raised there, 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: so a man, it's the place I call home, you know, 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: It's the only place I call home. Despite moving around 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: all the different areas, mister Sydney Guildford will always, I 156 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: guess hold a soft spot in my heart, you know, 157 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: especially being I guess the overstay at the time, you know, 158 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: parents moving houses to houses. So really yeah, yeah, so yeah, 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Gildford rolls, uh, you know, hold a soft spot in mine. 160 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: I know a lot of boys, especially Pacific Island, the 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 5: boys that do come out from that area bro gifted 162 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: talented boys. Man, what I did notice about the tongue 163 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: and boys from Guildford, they're very locked up to the 164 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: tongue and culture. 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: Compared to everywhere else. You have seen some of the 166 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: boys in Auburn and that you know, and like a 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: lot of them are like mixed culturally. But the Guildford boys, 168 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: I do remember, they are like the proper tongue. And 169 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 4: so if you guys don't know we're Guildford is if 170 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: you want to know where all the tongues are seeing you. 171 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: This guy grew up was the environment I do remember 172 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: gil for being like a very like it's also home 173 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: to g forty boys, some known boys. The environment could 174 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: be bad sometimes. Do you ever have to get like 175 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: get in the middle of like things you didn't want 176 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 4: to get into? 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: No, not really, to be honest, My child growing up 178 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: was I was never about that, you know, that gang 179 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: life or around those that type of environment. I was 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: always a I guess that happy, happy child going to 181 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: church every Sunday. 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: You know. 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I also had three parents, you know, forcing us to 184 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: go to church. So yeah, all that, I guess, gang life, 185 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: that type of stuff, I was never around it. So 186 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: I was pretty fortunate with that. 187 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's fad, that's man, And like I did 188 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: want to ask you about it because reallye Mason, he 189 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 4: was like intrigued by your tattoo. Oh, And I was 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: saying that, like a lot of the boys in that 191 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: format area, they love the area, even though despite there's 192 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 4: some some idiots like us that we're representing a bad way, 193 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: but a lot of people call call our place Homeie. 194 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's a bad thing. Just I 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: think the way Sydney is going, I think maybe the 196 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: post code thing and it did get out of hand, 197 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: which I gotta admit, But just ripping where you're from 198 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: has always been a thing for any celebrity and anyone 199 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 5: that had a status, you know, whether you say you're 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: from America or California or like say, for example, I 201 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: was to go on Australia's Got Talent. Of course I 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: was saying from Grandmall, Sydney, you know, and everyone be cheering, Yeah, yeah, man, 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: shout out to Guilford do forty boys. 204 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, I know a lot of the boys are 205 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: gonna be where's the big man. It's been so interesting 206 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: watching you this year. A lot of us have seen 207 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: your personality on the field and you have been doing 208 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: a big man, and I'm so proud of you. Just 209 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: for the audience at home, I wanted them to maybe see, 210 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: how could you explain your lifestyle? What's what happens behind 211 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: closed doors? 212 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: You know? 213 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: How is how is living life for you? 214 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: The most important thing for me now is my family. 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, there's ever it's outside of footy. It's I'm 216 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: always at home with my family. You know. I like 217 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: to take him out, you know, obviously because I live 218 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: in the beaches now, I like to take him out 219 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: to playlands or or go for little swims as well. 220 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: You live in the beaches now, it's a completely different lifestyle. 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, everyone's out and about. There's no like violence 222 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Yeah, just blending in with everyone else. 223 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: That's Yeah. 224 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Those lives that I've always wanted to, you know, live, 225 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: and it's become reality. 226 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: So man, I'm very grateful. 227 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, I did find out about how you got 228 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 4: into football, and I was shocked. Did you I heard 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: that you You got picked on the side some somehow. 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Just keep it short and simple. So I remember I 231 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: was just working down at the shore. I was doing 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: concreting with old Man and one of the boys, my 233 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: nasifhonal Y very close with him. I grew up with him. 234 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: He just called me. He was training with twenties at 235 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: the time. 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, shadow, yeah, So I was just I was at 237 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: work and then he called me. 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: He said, oh, you know, I'm going to be driving 239 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: and mainly by myself. You want to come for a 240 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: little you know, just keep the company. And I told him, yeah, 241 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: why not. So the Blake drove from Guilford, picked me 242 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: up from the Shire, drove me all the way to 243 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: we drove to his training at Manly and I did 244 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: it for a while with him. I think it was 245 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: like two one, two weeks in. 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, just jump on, yeah for a trip. 247 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just out of the blue. I just got out 248 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: the car and sat in Bonn was just watching the 249 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: boys train and yes, his coach at the time spotted 250 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: me and after that says, she come up to me 251 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: and I say, if I wanted to train, gave me 252 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: a shot. So I was like, yes, we were not. 253 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: So I trained with him for like a week or two, 254 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: and then luckily that week they had the trials against 255 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: dragons and I was fortunate enough to be in the team. 256 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: And trialed and what else. 257 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: I try to you know, play my play, my yes 258 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: off and yeah, and then they like they obviously liked that, 259 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: obviously like the way I played, and that's great issue. Man, 260 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: that was would you say, is it fair to say 261 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: that rugby league was never like on your like bucket 262 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: list in the first place. It was always in my 263 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: buckle list. You know, that was the number one priority 264 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: growing up as a obviously as like a Polynesian child 265 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: in the area. You know, you want to try and 266 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: get out of the hood and yeah, you know, try 267 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: and make your parents proud. And that was mine until 268 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: like you know, I was struggling to make it and 269 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: then I kind of turned way from it. And as 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: I turned away from it, so you got that's when 271 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: you went into concrete. And then I was working in 272 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: Concuerdel so I was doing concreting. When I was in 273 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: year nine, I started working, so I was kind of 274 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: on and off of school, and man, I just I 275 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: just love concreting. 276 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: I loved working. I love getting my hands dirty. And 277 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: that that explains why he's dropping everyone exactly. 278 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna admit I was seeing if I was the 279 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 5: coach that I've seen a big. 280 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: Boy like you know, fucking say you had it in 281 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: the back of your mind, but you had to hustle 282 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: and you had to make money. Yeah, And then I say, hell, 283 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: what's your relationship with him? We did. We We have 284 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: a lot of love for him. We got to see 285 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: him in jail when we oh yeah, yeah, I think 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: he was actually went to court on the same day 287 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: I went to court in twenty nineteen, and the same 288 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: judge gave him. I gave him bail, I think, and 289 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: he refused me bail. I was, but I was so 290 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: happy for him. Was that happy for him? What was 291 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: your relationship? He? 292 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, brother, Yeah, so we grew 293 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: up since snappies. Yeah, so so my old man, this 294 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: is what I know. So, my my dad and his 295 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: grandma were very close. I think they're from the same 296 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: village in Tonga. So obviously when my parents moved here, 297 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: they lived with us as grandma and that's when you know, 298 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: we were struggling with everything. But yeah, I was just 299 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: grateful for them. 300 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: That's the man, who's. 301 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: Your mom and dad from? 302 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: So? So mom's from Ba and uh that's from Bye 303 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and man, so shout out to you. That's the managers. 304 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, they must be very proud of you. 305 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: I did hear that you bought them at houses all 306 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: And how does imagine imagine going to watch someone chain 307 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, you're buying your own 308 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: family's house. 309 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: It's crazy how everything unfolded. 310 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I already thought I wasn't going to make it because 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously in the game there's a lot of 312 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: politics as well, so if you've got a big name, 313 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: then you know you're more likely to make it. At 314 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: the time, I didn't have a big name, so I 315 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, and it was finally, it's 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: finally come to this. You know, I might just you know, 317 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: turn around, turn away and go do concreting. And then 318 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: just lucky enough, I was in that position where I 319 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: just called me and then and that's going on training and. 320 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: That's god man. And I was shocked when I heard 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: that story because I've seen you play, and I'm thinking, 322 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: there's no way they just picked him like that. I 323 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: like they would have went around the world trying to 324 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: look for what would you say is your hardest the 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: hardest thing that you had to go through going into 326 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: the NRL and becoming this new superstar that everyone looks 327 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: up to. 328 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Probably for me at the time when I first started 329 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: playing or training with NRL was because my physique I 330 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't the biggest. Obviously, I had a bit 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: of heart in me, but that was probably the main 332 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: thing for me, just my physique. I had to get 333 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: some meeting me and pause or yeah, but I had 334 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: to get big and say everything was again. I was 335 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: just all skin and bones, and you know, they told me, 336 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: you need to get big, and it took me a 337 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: while to get it. Took me like two three years 338 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: to get like on a lot of and. 339 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: Always some of their techniques to damn like make you 340 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: eat like more frequently. 341 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Not really, They just told me to just try and 342 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: stay try and you know, lift heavy in the weights. 343 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: And I remember funny story actually my first ever preseason 344 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: gym session, I was parted up with one of the 345 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: older Toming boys get it to be done, you know, yeah, 346 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: but him at the time he was already big yever 347 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: you guy, and I had to do bench press with 348 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: him and it was benching one like one twenty for 349 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: seven reps and I was just like way they put 350 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: me with him, on purpose, so they yeah, so I 351 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: can get get my straight up strength up. So I 352 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: was struggling at seventy kgs. Man, I could have lifted Wow, 353 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: I could have couldn't even rep like three reps. It 354 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: was it was embarrassing. But you know, they taught me 355 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot that that moment. You know, yeah, I had 356 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: to like fully lock in so well, man, it's definitely humbling. 357 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously that was a big something big for you 358 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: to ever come to this day. You're smashing people left 359 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: run the seat and. 360 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: To everyone running. 361 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: Actually had some interesting questions. 362 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: I was like, to be. 363 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: Honest, I was like, like, throughout this whole NRL season, 364 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: it was very hard for me to just to tap 365 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: in and engage on what's going on during the NRL season. 366 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: But I gotta admit, like. 367 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: Seeing you just thrive through the sport just made me 368 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 5: kind of like interested and onting the game again. I'm like, 369 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 5: but this is harmonic. But and then like the boys 370 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: are telling me, oh, this is from the area, and 371 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: you know, and I'm i gotta be I gotta be honest, 372 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 5: but just watching you players like made me want to 373 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 5: watch the NRL again. You just you bring that interesting 374 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: factor and just seeing you like balling over and I 375 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: was going to say, there is this one guy you 376 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 5: keep bawling over, Lindsey Colins. 377 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: Seemed like your favorite. 378 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: No, man, I just I don't know why, but he 379 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: just there. Yeah, I felt bad. 380 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: It was the game against Australia when I hit him. Yeah, 381 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: he kind of knocked the ball on, but then I 382 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: hit him. I felt very bad. I forgot to go 383 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: and apologize him after the game, but I didn't see him. 384 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: I was I was too busy with family and that 385 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: family and friends. 386 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's. 387 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: He's ready for there was maybe there's a story you 388 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: guys are the story internal NRLB for something. 389 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Find Oh yeah, there was a little hit in the 390 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: moment where the game against russ where I hit him 391 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, so one of our our alder 392 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: boys got knocked out. H I a jake to Boyvich. 393 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: So he got knocked and I seen Lizzie Collins coming 394 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: in and just like giving it to him, like laughing 395 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: at him, and then like it just stayed in my mind. 396 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: And then obviously, like five minutes later, I've seen the 397 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: chance there is but that was the only one. 398 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: YEA, yeah, yes, man, I know a lot of people 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: are excited to hear about you coming back next year. Yeah, 400 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you actually announced what's happening, but 401 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: like maybe you can announce it here president. 402 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just got to op on it 403 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: on August August, and you know the recovery times four 404 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: to five months, So everything's been well with that. I'm 405 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: well heard of, like schedule, I'm on track with my 406 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: shoulder now, so yeah, I'll be I'll definitely be a 407 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: background one. 408 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: That's the man news we had Josh otherwise. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: like he did his shoulder. Is that you guys planning 410 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: you guys been hitting the same shoulder. I think we're 411 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: planning to skip the pack chance. 412 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: A little rest. So yeah, he did. He did speak 413 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: a lot of good about you. How is it playing 414 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: with a guy. 415 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Like no, Yeah, Josh justh's a good human being. 416 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: You know, he's. 417 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: Outside of foot he's you know, very He's a role 418 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: model to all those younger boys. You know, we call 419 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: him the big brother in our team because you know, 420 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: he goes out of his way to always check up 421 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: on us. You know, he messages us cause us especially 422 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: in like the random times when you don't expect it. So, 423 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's that big brother that we you know, 424 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: I guess never had in the team by his Yes, 425 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: also a dangerous man on the field too, you know 426 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: despite all those big highlight reels I've I've done. Yeah 427 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: they also Josh is always next to me. Yeah, big 428 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: credit for him. 429 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: I can see it in him, like he's he's he's 430 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: actually like after we met him on the podcast, he 431 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: actually kept reaching out to us. Yeah, he was so 432 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: grateful for that. You may actually he actually tapped him 433 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: like I think two weeks ago and said, hey, how's 434 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: everything going on you guys, that's really happens. 435 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: That's how Yeah. So that's he's like the big brother. Yeah, 436 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: big brother. He's very caring man. He goes out of. 437 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: His way to all check up on everyone. Man. So 438 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: it's a good human being. 439 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask, since we're coming up towards 440 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: the end of twenty twenty five, we might as well 441 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: highlight your whole year this year. What would you say 442 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: it was your favorite game this year? 443 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Favorite game this year? 444 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: Man? 445 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: Too many, I don't really know. I only played like 446 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: a handful of games this year, but I would probably 447 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: have to be the first round this year. Yeah, you know, obviously, 448 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: because I didn't have the best preseason last year, and 449 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, going into Round one, I was all nervous 450 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: and none and obviously when I first touched the boar, 451 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, just something else scored and then you know, yeah, 452 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: after that, everything just started flowing. 453 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: You know. 454 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: It's like something to realize who I was and what 455 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: I was capable of. And I think the first game 456 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: was probably my favorite. 457 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: Well that's mad. 458 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: And to hear you say nervous, but it takes you 459 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: shocking because you actually never look nervous. I was just 460 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: I was just telling running before probably one of the oldest, 461 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: uh try celebrations we've seen when when tongue and you 462 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: just stood up. 463 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, funny that one. 464 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: What was your what was your behind that twice celebration? 465 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: My I just had a big, like a brain fog. 466 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I got up and I don't remember, I don't remember 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: like scoring, and everything just happened like very quick, and 468 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: I got up and I tried to think of a celebration, 469 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, in the heat of the moment, 470 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. So I just thought 471 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: up and just stared at the camera. 472 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: And I. 473 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: And then remember you had a lot of people saying 474 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: cold cold, fan cold. That's probably one of the best 475 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: tie celebrations I've ever seen. Especially this edit that this 476 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: guy made. I'll quickly shout this guy out made the 477 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: editor where you transitioned from you to Jason. I don't 478 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 4: know if your name of the horror. Yeah, it's that 479 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: character crazy real man, I love that. But anyways, now 480 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: that we know that you haven't been sped in a 481 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 4: lot of time at home, how has that been for 482 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: your experience? 483 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 3: Been able to spend more time with your family. 484 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: Probably the best thing that's ever happened to me off 485 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: the phild this year. And I've had a lot of 486 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: good things during the year of footy, but the main 487 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: thing was having my daughter. So yeah, my missus gave 488 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: birth to my daughter, and probably the best thing that's 489 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: ever happened to me, you know, and that you know 490 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: the tongue of the tradition. You got a name after Prais, 491 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: so I named it after my mom. Oh wow, yeah, man, 492 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: it's probably the best thing that's ever ever happened to me. Man, 493 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: it's just just I guess you see life in the expective, man, 494 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy. 495 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: You'd have to also admit as well, this will change 496 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: like the whole concept of the NRL career as well. 497 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: This kind of gives it a different type of fires. 498 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulations first of all. But man, I'm 499 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: so excited because we are actually fathers ourselves. Yeah, I'm excited. 500 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: How how is that journey like been for your father? Oh? 501 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Man, it's it's been. It's been crazy, but it's definitely 502 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: been a very humbling experience, you know, especially I've got 503 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: a boy. He's his three, and you know, it's it's 504 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: a good feeling when you have a boy, but it's 505 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: it's a different type of feeling when when. 506 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: You have a girl. 507 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: Yea some reason, I don't know why, but I can't 508 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: really explain it. But when you have girls, it's a. 509 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: Saying, right, it's different, like you mentionally, it touches your 510 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes it was like my son annoys me. 511 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: I just want to buy your me. 512 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: I remember I remember you said something on it before, 513 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 5: like it must have been the old podcast, but I 514 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: remember you said something on you know when you have 515 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: your your first daughter or whatever, like the dad is 516 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: always their first boy love, you know, that's and that's 517 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: the love that they try and. 518 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Look for when they grow up, you know what I mean. 519 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: They're always trying to look for something that's similar or 520 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: common to how they grew up with their father. So yeah, 521 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: I reckon that's like it's a big thing, you know, 522 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 5: having a girl, and it's a big thing also for 523 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: the father as well, you know, just like I feel 524 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: like that's like that love. 525 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: Is different and then it's heaps different. 526 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, my girls, man, I'll do anything for them. They 527 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 4: really changed me as well, even myself, like they played 528 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: a big part and taking me out of the crime off. 529 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: I think before I started the podcast was about a 530 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: month before I had twin girls, not just one year. 531 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: I had to like like, I'm gonna copy it. I 532 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 4: gotta I'm gonna what the what are these girls gonna 533 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: say when they grow up? And I gotta start switching 534 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: the narrative, and like, man, it did change my life 535 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: in a big way. 536 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: What about for you? 537 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 4: Has it? Has it changed anything? Your perspective on life itself? 538 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: Has it has it changed your personality? Maybe we'll see 539 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: a different hormoney on the field. 540 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 541 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: I definitely haven't really thought about that, but she has 542 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: definitely changed a lot in me over the past few 543 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: months she's been in this world. Yeah, I've definitely become 544 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot more softer, especially being a father with my son. 545 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I've been very very hard on him, and you know, 546 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: just every time I see him in the room, every 547 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: time I look at my son, I just you know, 548 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: give him that little that little look that's tough love. 549 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: And then I look over to my daughter and she's there, 550 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: She's just staring at me. It's just she she definitely 551 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: clicks just makes me like I need to settle down here. 552 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 553 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: It's just different, a different type of love. Yeah, yeah, 554 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: I know, between the two. So it's definitely definitely changed 555 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: the way I see things in life. 556 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: Now. 557 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: That's amazing. I'm excited and I'm excited for you. I'm 558 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: following you on Instagram. I love the I love the 559 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: messages that you share and even some of the rules 560 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 4: that you repost. A lot of it has to do 561 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: with faith and you know, Christianity, and I love what 562 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: you actually share because you've got a big platform, probably 563 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: bigger than own. I was just wondering behind behind the field, 564 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: behind football, behind everything, is there is there a big 565 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: faith that that you have behind closed doors. 566 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: There is there is, It's It's something that I definitely 567 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: want to get back to. I'm teenage of life, you know, 568 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: I was, I was drawn away from it, you know. 569 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I was too worried about, you know, doing things from like, 570 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, the outside world. You know, have partying and 571 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to go out with boys and that. And 572 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I guess since having a family now, it's definitely something 573 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that I really want to get back into. You know, 574 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: take my my children to church and just all the 575 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: little things. 576 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: And know, even like. 577 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: When I'm just by myself in the room, you know, 578 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: I just I just magically pops up, you know, God 579 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: just pops up in my mind. I just think about him. 580 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: It's definitely something I want to get back into. 581 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: Would it be right to say that you had like 582 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: a bit a bit of experience in the church when 583 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: you were younger, and then you sort of lost it 584 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: along the way. 585 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, you know obviously because I'm I'm a Mormon, 586 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: so yes, So I grew up, you know hard in 587 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: the church. I went to church every Sunday, I went 588 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: to every like activity, you know, me, I was there, 589 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know everything just I just 590 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: went away from everything as soon as I started high school, 591 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, I just started wanting to hang out with 592 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: friends and you know, do all that sort of stuff. 593 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: And but yeah, definitely it's definitely something I really want 594 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: to get back into my faith, especially now that's mad. 595 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: That's mad. 596 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: We always encourage like our audience out there, you know, 597 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: like the stronghold of especially our faith, you know, and 598 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 5: we've gone through like experiences ourselves where you know, we 599 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 5: arguably grew up around just our faith as well church 600 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: and mom and dad you know, just being very strong 601 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 5: in the their faith as well. 602 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: So I think like we just always had it in 603 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: the back of our mind too, So I know what 604 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: you mean. But we're definitely, I think. 605 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: Especially if you've got kids, like it's yeah, it's amazing 606 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 4: that you're starting to think about it more because you're 607 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: your father too, And I think that's one of the 608 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: biggest strongholds any man can have for his family. It's 609 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: looking up to to go on because you know, I 610 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: feel like every like when once you once you build 611 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: a family, you go along, you leave the boys behind 612 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: the end of relying on yourself, you you take responsibility 613 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: for everything. You look after the family, but it's always 614 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: amazing to know that there's there's still someone you can 615 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: look up to. You even though you leave the boys behind, 616 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: you go and move on with your family, but there's 617 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: someone to h to look up to at the end 618 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: of the day. Let's get to the next question. What 619 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: do you think was the hardest obstacle you had to 620 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: face this year? 621 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: This year, Ah, it will probably have to be my injury. Yeah, see, 622 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: because I'm very passionate about my sport, you know, especially 623 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: when when that injury happened. You know, there was I 624 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: had two options to get a surgery and and just 625 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, not play this whole year, or or just 626 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: do a recovery and try to let my shoulder heill back. 627 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: And obviously I took the the recovery option, and you 628 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: know that was that was not an easy journey as well, 629 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: that recovery. So so you can let it hell, Yeah, 630 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: you can let it hell, but it's there's a ninety 631 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: ninety chance of it, you know, going off again. And yeah, 632 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: so so I chose to let it hell. And the 633 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: recovery time was like six weeks. So I come back 634 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: in four weeks and I rushed everything. I rushed through 635 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: my rehab strength just to push to come back before finals, 636 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: and what you know, first game back, I do it 637 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: in the second half. 638 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, I should have. 639 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: Just listened to my listen to my partner. 640 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: My partner said, take the shoulder. 641 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: Does she want you to do the surgery? H Yeah. 642 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 4: I was about to say, like, wouldn't it be better 643 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: to do surgery? 644 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the but for it to happen is yeah. 645 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: Ten Yeah. 646 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: So but then then again, if you do the surgery, 647 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: it's just the waiting time. 648 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that you'll be out for the whole year, you 649 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: won't be back to next year. 650 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I think that basically highlights your passion 651 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: for the fully game. I remember I remember this like 652 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 5: it was some similar situation that happened with Alistor. But 653 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: something happened to him during training, but massive controversial controversy 654 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: and he's still decided to play on. I'm not sure 655 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 5: exactly what happened, but bro, like some of these people 656 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 5: just don't understand the passion that some of these players 657 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 5: have for the game. 658 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: You know. And I heard the people who let him 659 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: back on they got and or something. 660 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about that. 661 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: What would your view b on the whole situation. 662 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Elie Gods position, I would be, I will definitely 663 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: do the same as him, you know, you know obviously 664 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: if he can, if he can go on, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 665 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, obviously that's the doctor's job to to rule 666 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: a player out. And yeah, he didn't obviously do his job. 667 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: So I think that's what led Ellie to continue to 668 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: play and even cause more damage. 669 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 4: So the doctor's tom, I think it was. As soon 670 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: as I remember even I was like, but of course decide, 671 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: but yeah, I think you're right, But I think it 672 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: was definitely the doctors. Doctors see well, I think doctor 673 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: it will be hard to like, you know, to be 674 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: able to choose whether Luck to decide whether this GUIDs 675 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: are right play or not if he's like still excited 676 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: for the game, because you know how Tongan is. I 677 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: can imagine I can imagine how Early was like, no, 678 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: I'm sweet. 679 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: Especially a game that represents nation. 680 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Yeah yeah, and it was only the start 681 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, so I feel like you could go 682 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: through anything, like you could be like walking on one 683 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: leg and you'd be like, yeah, i'm sweet, I'm playing 684 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: for Tonna, you know, yeah, that's probably exactly what he 685 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: was his mony was speaking of playing for Tonga. Yeah, yeah, 686 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: how's that experience for you? Yeah, we love watching when 687 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: you're on the team for unfortunately we weren't able to 688 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: see you this year. Man, you're always killing that. What 689 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: is that experience like for you? 690 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 691 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: Man, that's a crazy experience because I remember worked up 692 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen being a part of the crowd, the fan, 693 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, just watching all the old tongueing boys playing 694 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: and just saying, I was just saying to myself, man, 695 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: I'd really love to play for this team. 696 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: Well full time. 697 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm in the team. We're in the jersey 698 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: and it hits the for it, you know, especially when 699 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: your parents they come from Tonga to Australia and they 700 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: try and find a better life for your kids. And yeah, 701 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: definitely every time when I wear that red jersey, you know, 702 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: I try and represent my parents and their villages and 703 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: also trying to represent God to so God plays a 704 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: big part of all of our careers and I try 705 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: and try my best to represent Him in my family. 706 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 707 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 5: Amazing, amazing, But we're glad to see you represent, you know, 708 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: the World Cup. 709 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be a big time man, 710 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: big time coming around this time. 711 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: So what's it like this? Because I know, you know, 712 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 4: people are like they're crazy man, like you never stand 713 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: the other. 714 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 3: What's that experience? 715 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: Like, you know, you've got tongue is everywhere looking at you. 716 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: I can imagine that pressure. 717 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 5: Especially because you've been on both sides and now is 718 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: there no pressure? 719 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: Is that it's more like a privilege? Really, Yeah, to 720 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: play for Dong you know, especially for all the crowd 721 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: and everyone around. You know, we're so die hard when 722 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: it comes to like especially comes to to footing and Dong. 723 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: I It's just it's a mad feeling. It's a cool 724 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: feeling that I can't explain. But you know, if if 725 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: I was to wear the tongue of jersey like ten times, 726 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: I'll do it all over again. 727 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah that's mad. Well, hopefully you do wear the tongue jersey. 728 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: That's the plan, man, that's the goal. That's the goal 729 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: for next year, trying to represent THO. 730 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's the man. 731 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: I say excited. I actually love that you were able 732 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: to represent us. I'm just thinking about your parents. They 733 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 4: must be the proudest people on this earth for the 734 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: milestands that you keep them stepping, like, you know, do 735 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: you feel like there's any stones unturned that you want 736 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 4: to do to make your parents happy? Is there anything 737 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 4: that you feel like you haven't done yet to make 738 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: your family happy? 739 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: And terms of goals on field, I feel like I've 740 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: I've made my parents proud. You know, they always remind 741 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: me how proud they are as well, especially my old man. 742 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's such a proud proud person, especially for 743 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: him to be my my dad. You know, he messages 744 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: me before every game, which is me luck caused me. 745 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, in terms of on field stuff, I feel 746 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: like I've done I've done hips to make them proud. 747 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: And but on the flip side of off field stuff, 748 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: probably the their main thing for me is probably just 749 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: to get married. Y. You know, my mom keeps reminding me, 750 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: make sure you get married, you know, pull God first, 751 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: make sure you get married this and that. So you 752 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: know that's a goal for me next year. And yeah, yeah, okay, 753 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: all things go well to then. 754 00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 4: So that's great insight for twenty twenty six. Amazing. But 755 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 4: you heard it your person exactly. We're looking forward. We're 756 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 4: looking forward to it. 757 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: And then well, what would you say is like the 758 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: what would you say is it was like the highest 759 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 5: pinnacle moment of your whole, n real career. 760 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: It have to be to represent okay, you know, because 761 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: you know all these milestones in footy, you know, making 762 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: my debut playing your games, it's it's made my parents proud. 763 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: But when I told him the news I was playing 764 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: for Tom, you know, it hit different. Yeah, Mom started crying. 765 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: Dad got a bit teary. He usually doesn't tear up, 766 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: so you know, to hear them crying, and when they 767 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: found out the news, it was definitely a humbling experience 768 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: for myself. 769 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: So tell us about your family. What was the experience 770 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: like growing up? So did you did you grow up 771 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 4: your whole life in Guildford your whole title? 772 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so I grew up. I grew up in 773 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Guildford to the age of maybe sixteen seventeen. 774 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 775 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 3: And you have siblings? Yeah I do. Yeah. 776 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: So I'm the oldest of five. I have two younger 777 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: brothers and then two girls under them, so it's five 778 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: of us. 779 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Just give us some insight on like where was 780 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 4: your household like growing up? Was it like a tong 781 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 4: in houses? You know, like, yeah, shoes at the front. 782 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know there's little you know, those big 783 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: followed those straw You had one of those. Yeah, yeah, 784 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: that was used to cleaning and hidings. So yeah, that 785 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: was that was the That was my household growing up. 786 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: You know. We had two rooms. Dad, moms sleep in 787 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: one room and obviously sisters and the other room. And 788 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: I spoiled was just either with my parents or in 789 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the in the living room. 790 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: So it was. 791 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: Small house, but it was. It was a good childhood life, 792 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: you know growing up. Uh didn't complain. 793 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. 794 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: It was a fun, fun childhood. 795 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 4: Did you But did you guys ever move to Tong Nah? 796 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: Did? I just always just to fly over and visit 797 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: family there, but never never moved in and lived there. 798 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 799 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 4: We end up getting sent there because my dad thought 800 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 4: it was it was smart to send us there, because 801 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 4: you know, if the boys Tongue boys are running money 802 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: and seeing the parents at the many thing, let's send 803 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 4: him to Tong and he will learn from you from that. 804 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: Like me there come back ten times. I think you 805 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: were a good boy. 806 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: He no, I was. 807 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: I was definitely the responsible one in the family. It's 808 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: good because you're the oldest as well, so hectic role. 809 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: More than I had. 810 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: I had to be a leader at a very year. 811 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's my how's your tongue in language? 812 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 3: Is it? 813 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 4: Is it fluent? 814 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: Not really? 815 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: Not really, but I understand fluent. 816 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 4: You understand it? 817 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I would say like fift like tonguean. 818 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 3: Ah, that's enough. 819 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think after Jay's dollars story last week, I 820 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: think percentage went cover. Man, come on, you putting these 821 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: two cents in cover? Well, we got another question going 822 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 4: into twenty twenty six. Actually he already told us, Yeah, 823 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 4: his biggest goal is getting married. Wow, what else do 824 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 4: you have in store for twenty six? Are we looking 825 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 4: to see you more on the media as well or 826 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: anything like? Oh? 827 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I got to say, Like most 828 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 5: of these NRL players, they're always doing like a side thing, 829 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 5: whether it's social media or something else on the side. 830 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: Do you have like anything like that? 831 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: Nah? Not really a funny you brought that up. My 832 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: partner brought her up last week. Actually, she's she wanted 833 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: me to post more content, do more flogs than that. Yeah, 834 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: knowing me, I don't really like to yeah, record myself 835 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: and put it out. Yeah, I feel like it's out. Yeah, 836 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: but she told me you just thought and we'll just 837 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: see where it goes. So yeah, I'm gonna start shooting 838 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: some content, so yeah, see where that goes. 839 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: But if your partner, I feel like it can really could, 840 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: really like you'll be a demand. Your partner is encouraging you. 841 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: To do stuff like that, that's mad, she's the one 842 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 3: pushing it. 843 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited, man, I'm actually excited to see on 844 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 4: the podcast, to see you luck more than me. And 845 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 4: I was actually nervous today because I was sending the 846 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 4: boys I never see. I'm willing like I'm dump on it. Yeah, 847 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 4: but I was excited as well. So I'll be happy 848 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 4: if you dump on the media more often, it'll be good. 849 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 850 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: What do you think you could? You could come up 851 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 4: with you Yeah, probably just do like some I think 852 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 4: vlogging in general. But yeah, a lot of people will 853 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 4: love you for just general vlogging, logging like travel blogs 854 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: or maybe like a day of life with Me or 855 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: something like that. A lot of people got to know 856 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 4: what's behind the terminator everyone. 857 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: I think people are just intrigued just to. 858 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 5: Want to know how NRL players life is in general, 859 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, I think it's always hectic, especially 860 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 5: with her status like that. 861 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 3: Brom Yeah, a lot of rat doubt, a lot of 862 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: people will be tuning in. Man, I was. 863 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 4: I was just saying, since you brought up your partner, 864 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 4: how's that, how's it been like being able to juggle 865 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: a relationship and being part of the then, No, real 866 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 4: has that been a challenge. 867 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: No, Surprisingly, she's been like she's doing really well with 868 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: it actually, So she's like she's kind of like my 869 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: personal manager. So you know, everything I get or like 870 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: I receive, you know, everything goes through her. She approves her. 871 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: And then she's actually been like. 872 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 3: She's the big bullet. 873 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's like the boss. Yeah, she's made life 874 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: easy for me, especially like in terms of rugby and that, 875 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, when I tell her I need a bit 876 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: of space time alone, like nights before games and that, 877 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: it's just like in you know, try and lock in 878 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: four games, and she will do that for me. You know, 879 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: she will get the kids away and and you know, 880 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: just let me have my you know, my me time. 881 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: She's us. Yeah, she's pretty well balanced. 882 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 3: With that's amazing. 883 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 5: Speaking of me time, I've noticed some some NRL players 884 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 5: have this little thing where they'll maybe get away or 885 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 5: have a. 886 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: Piece of mine. 887 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 5: I remember we spoke to Sonic outdoor and he was 888 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 5: telling us that something that he used to do just 889 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 5: to get away from everyone and like, especially when things 890 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 5: get hectic in the NRL career, he would go fishing. 891 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 3: But now he's doing. 892 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 5: Content wise, you know what I mean. Is there something 893 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 5: that you do similar to that, like just to get 894 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 5: away and get to have a piece of mind? 895 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 3: I yeah, I do. Actually I play a lot of golf. Wow, 896 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: So so that that's like, that's like my Yeah. 897 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love playing golf when it's like when I 898 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: get some me time and sometime away from footing in 899 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: the family. So when I when I try and have 900 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: some free time, I go away and play golf. 901 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mad. I've never played golf. I think that's 902 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 3: like the rich tongue in sport sport. We were still playing. 903 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get the hang of it too, 904 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's mad. Have you ever thought of basketball, 905 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 4: because I know you've got the mad hype for it. Yeah. 906 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm terrible at basketball. Oh yeah, man, I can't shoot 907 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: for to save my life. Man, I'm terrible at basketball? 908 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 4: You have any other sports that that yet that maybe 909 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 4: you're into if you weren't doing NRL. 910 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: Man, it'll probably be basketball, like you have to try 911 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: and training and then the sport. But that maybe NFL 912 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: given a feel crack I wasn't playing, or maybe rugby 913 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: union you know, true, well just go play union, see 914 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: suss all that. 915 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 4: That's wow, amazing, amazing. Some of the league fans are 916 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 4: gonna get dirty. 917 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 3: How were you like athletic wise? Growing up? 918 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 5: Were just always active, like how was your training? Eating 919 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 5: and obviously like living in a small household, the dietary factor, 920 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,919 Speaker 5: he would just play a bit different, you know, because 921 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 5: there's siblings and especially. 922 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: Coming back from a Tonguean background, you know, I know 923 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: we our like our. 924 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 5: Nutrition wasn't like all glamor and it was masically just 925 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 5: like rice and kiki on just just basic stuff. 926 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: So that's exactly the same as me. 927 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: Man. 928 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know were times we're struggling to eat and 929 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: I think rice was the yeah, like the main source 930 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,959 Speaker 1: for our our household and we was just seeing rice 931 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: and some mine would make a there. Sometimes the buck 932 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: was just we had to like always improvise when it 933 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: comes to Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't really and it was 934 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: it was very hard trying to go. Yeah. 935 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 4: Remember you were saying that you're trying to put weight 936 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 4: on yeah, which is actually one of the most rare 937 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 4: cases in trying to put away because everyone is trying 938 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 4: to lose. You're a billion to put on. 939 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: The way, and now I'm struggling to lose the weight now, 940 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: so oh I put on too much way. 941 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, now something something when you wanted to bring up. 942 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 4: We don't know if you're comfortable enough for us to 943 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 4: speak about it, but we did. I did hear a 944 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 4: story about me. I think it was your nephew or 945 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 4: something that passed away. 946 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 3: To bullying. 947 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 4: I just I didn't know before, but I realized you 948 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 4: were related to him, and I'm very sorry for your 949 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 4: lost So I just wanted to see if you're comfortable, like, 950 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 4: what was that, Like it's stuck. 951 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 5: For you, and did this like kind of impact your 952 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 5: your career as an NRL player? 953 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: Lucky enough, it wasn't. It happened during my injury, so 954 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: I was, you know, outside of a foodio lucky and 955 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't playing because it definitely would have impacted me 956 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: while I was playing. But yeah, yeah, when I was injured. 957 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: I remember I was, I went away actually I was 958 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: in Japan at the time when when I got the news. 959 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: So I got the news and you know, all that 960 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: happy vibe away going away in Japan. You know, it's 961 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: just all like went away in the house. I didn't 962 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: want to go out anymore. I was just like, yeah, 963 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: you know, I want to go back home now. Yeah, 964 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was a definitely a tough time for 965 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: me and my family and and just hope you know, 966 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: they're doing well right now. So yeah, in terms of 967 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: his parents and everything's slowly coming back together. You know, 968 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: I try my best to stay in touch with my 969 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: nephew's parents. Every once a month, I try and message him, 970 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: call him see if they want to go out, you know, 971 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: to eat. It's definitely something I should have done when 972 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: he was here. You know, I was always too worried 973 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: about footy and my type of you know thing away 974 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: from everyone. But yeah, man, I try my best to 975 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: tap in with his parents and try and go see 976 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: him every now and then. 977 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, well do you do you think do you think 978 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 4: bullyings is becoming a lot more bigger in our day 979 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 4: and age right now? Yeah, definitely it's becoming a lot 980 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 4: bigger because would you say that social media, like you know, 981 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 4: plays a part in it? 982 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: Definitely, you know social media is yeah, it's basically what 983 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: runs everyone's lives now. You know, what have you seen 984 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: social media? You know, people get intrigued and they try 985 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah copy or follows that follow those things. 986 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 987 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that bullying is. 988 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 5: It's gone out a hand now, definitely, especially with all 989 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 5: this AI stuff. You know, very dangerous, man, very dangerous, 990 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 5: but it's always good. 991 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 3: You know, just to. 992 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 5: Haven't haven't I open all the time, you know, with 993 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 5: family and friends, always checking up, like you said, always 994 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 5: checking up on people, you know, just seeing if they're right. 995 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 5: I remember watching this this show like two days ago 996 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 5: on sixty minutes. This mother lost her son to an 997 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 5: AI bot and he ended up, you know, matter himself 998 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 5: because well from talking to AI, talking to an AI 999 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 5: bot and it was like a female bot. Yeah, but 1000 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 5: she she just never seen it. She never seen it. 1001 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 5: You know. She thought that he was a normal kid 1002 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 5: growing up to his teens, you know, fifteen sixteen, that 1003 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 5: that puberty, you know, and Bernie was so bad man. 1004 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,720 Speaker 5: They didn't know it was that deep until the police 1005 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 5: caught his phone and showed her all the messages. She 1006 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 5: was just still in disbelief for months, couldn't believe it. Man, 1007 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 5: much love and respect for these young lads. That's why 1008 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 5: it's so important for us, like especially on President cons 1009 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 5: we love like we love sharing a better life for 1010 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 5: young kids who are growing up. I know a lot 1011 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 5: of young kids are gonna watch this episode, and I'm 1012 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 5: sure everyone's gonna know your top top gentleman, just for 1013 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 5: for anyone that could be like struggling with. 1014 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 3: Their life right now. 1015 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 4: What sort of advice would you give to a young 1016 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 4: kid who maybe maybe going through whatever tough times or 1017 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: just can't hack life like you know itself? 1018 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: Probably just like you know, I always always open up, 1019 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I always you know, don't try 1020 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: and stay inside your show. You know, always ask for 1021 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: help or seek help, you know, ask questions because you 1022 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: know we're not mind readers. You're asking and will do 1023 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: our best to try. 1024 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 3: And help and. 1025 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: Of the issue. 1026 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 4: I guess yeah, yeah, that's mad advice, man, That's actually 1027 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 4: that's actually what we we really try to push out there. 1028 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 4: We try to bring many here so we can conversate. 1029 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 4: We love conversating back and forth. I feel like when 1030 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 4: everyone gets gets things out, you know, the world becomes 1031 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 4: a better place. Such great advice for the man. What 1032 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 4: about what about a young lad coming into NRL, you know, 1033 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 4: so the boys start joining their mates. I think that's 1034 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 4: a good idea. Concreting first, concreting and then maybe you'll 1035 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 4: get turned out for concreting. Do you feel like if 1036 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 4: you've never done the NRL concreting, you'll be like running 1037 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 4: the business and everything like that. 1038 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, we haven't really thought about it, but 1039 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: because because NRL, you know, you're only last to like 1040 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: you're thirty thirty two, So yeah, it's definitely something you 1041 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: want to try and do outside start a business or something, 1042 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: or or you started conquering conquering business. 1043 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the best choice, to be honest, when 1044 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 4: I started my scaffolding business. The reason why I will 1045 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 4: say easy because well, the boys that experience. Yeah, what 1046 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 4: would you say is like maybe your biggest struggle ever 1047 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 4: from since growing up? What would you say your biggest 1048 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 4: struggle was? 1049 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: My biggest struggle probably my kindness. You know I've always 1050 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: struggled to I guess say no, to two people. I've 1051 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: always been that person to say yeah, you know, or 1052 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: I'll help you, I'll help you, I'll do this for you, 1053 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll do that for you. You know, they've always I've 1054 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: had a few people take advantage of it, but that's 1055 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's it's nothing major for me. Now, you know, 1056 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: I'll try my best to to give and and not 1057 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: ask for anything more. So, yeah, you're probably the main 1058 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: thing was my kindness. A lot of people took my 1059 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: kindness for weakness. 1060 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, that's so. 1061 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 4: Hard to hear because it's such a gentleman, and I 1062 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: understand that could have happened a lot. 1063 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad we this podcast highlighted a different side of you. 1064 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 5: So a lot of fans are going to be intrigued 1065 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 5: by this. 1066 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 4: What is your strategy now for a lot of people 1067 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 4: who take your kindness for weakness. 1068 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: My partner's pretty like she's she's the heavy no filter, 1069 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,919 Speaker 1: so it's always got. 1070 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 3: To be a ying yang, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're. 1071 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 4: Just coming up to the end of our say, I 1072 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 4: thought I asked a fun question, do you know anything 1073 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: about boxing? 1074 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 3: A little bit? Yeah? 1075 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 4: So I got said, this is pretty much going to 1076 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 4: be the Face of the Media. Next week, we've got 1077 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 4: Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua. 1078 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I heard about that. 1079 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 4: Who do you think might have this fight? 1080 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 3: And why we have to go with Jake? 1081 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 4: Boy, Well, so you actually believe he's got the he's 1082 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 4: got the will power to get this done. 1083 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: He's got the money. That's the only reason why, Paul, 1084 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: because he's got the money. 1085 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: Man. 1086 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel like some of his fights are really 1087 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 4: I reckon. I actually was hoping that he would he 1088 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 4: would win this, like legitimately, because I don't know if 1089 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 4: I feel like for for anyone that has really jumped 1090 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 4: into a real commitment where they have to try and 1091 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 4: get something done, I feel like he's in that position 1092 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 4: where he's he's got to be really committed and determined 1093 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 4: to win this match. So I like to think he's 1094 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 4: he's going to try to tap into that mode. And 1095 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 4: like you probably know yourself, any man who taps into 1096 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 4: like his goals and really wants it can get the 1097 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 4: job done. So I'm hoping I'm hoping he does something 1098 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 4: like that. Uh, just any just before we end the podcast, 1099 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 4: thank you so much Douggle for coming on. But we 1100 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 4: really appreciate you We know you don't like going on 1101 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 4: cameras and that, but we love that you came past. 1102 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 4: Is any last shout out shout out to anything you'd 1103 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 4: love to say to our beautiful fans. 1104 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: That yeah, Man, the big shout out to to the 1105 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: bros and cons Man, you guys. I listen to you 1106 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 1: guys every now and then. Yeah, you know, you guys 1107 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: have been a big role model for the for the 1108 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: community and social and you guys are doing big things 1109 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: and you guys are thinking big moves too, So I 1110 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what's in store for you guys 1111 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. 1112 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 3: And thanks. I appreciate it. We appreciate you. 1113 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually had a lot of mad things going 1114 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 4: on for twenty twenty six. Jay, bring up this cold 1115 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 4: thing so we're gonna go for man, appreciate it a 1116 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 4: lot that we're coming from you. We're so excited for 1117 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 4: your upcoming games. Much love and support from us always. 1118 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, man, Thank you, Thank you a lot. 1119 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 4: Dog bringing you want to end the shay, that's it. 1120 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 5: If you guys are Actually we got one more guest 1121 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 5: coming on because as you know, we're hitting December now. 1122 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 3: It's finally the end of the year, so we've got 1123 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 3: one more guest. 1124 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 5: Guys, stay tuned and leave some comments, but let us 1125 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 5: know what's on your mind. And other than that, stay 1126 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 5: tuned for the next episode. 1127 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 4: Bros and cos, let's go