1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Bit of a change of pace, because we are catching 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: up well with Katrina Tomlins, whose mother and father were 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: part of the Stolen Generation that were taken to Garden Point, 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the Garden Point Mission on the Tiwei Islands. Descendants of 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: the Stolen Generation one a fifty million dollar class action 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: against the federal government back in twenty twenty two, but 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: they say that the law firm is still yet to 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: distribute the money now. According to a report by the ABC, 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Shine Lawyers won the class action for two thousand people 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: whose parents were forcibly removed to Northern Territory institutions between 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three and twenty twelve under the federal government 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: assimilation policies. The article goes on to say that Shine 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Lawyers last year advised that claimants would start to receive 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: payments this year, but that doesn't seem to have happened now. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Katrina joins me on the line right now. Good morning, Katrina, 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Katie, Thanks so much for your time. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Where are things at from your perspective, Very. 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Very disappointing, really disheartening, Yes, just traumatizing again, just waiting 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: on their dishonesty on not giving us a date and 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: letting us know. 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: It'll be It must be tough, as I understand it. 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Please correct me if I'm wrong, But your mum and 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: dad were both part of the Stolen Generation? How are 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: they feeling at this point. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: They both passed away. 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I didn't realize, Katrina, that must make 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: it even harder for your family. Oh, mate, So we're 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: so from your perspective now at this point in time. Obviously, 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, according to this article by the ABC Shine lawyers, 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: they had said that people were going to to be 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: paid out this year, but that's not happened yet. 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: No, No, that was supposed to be in April this year. 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: And because of all their their legal jargons, you know, 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: that's that doesn't have anything to do with us. You know, 35 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: they're just supposed to be paying us the money and 36 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: then and they're not. 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Katrina, how difficult has this process been for you and 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: your sister and for your family, particularly with your mum 39 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: and dad no longer with us. 40 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: It's really it's really hardening, really painful. 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't even begin to imagine. And yeah, I 42 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: mean the thing is, it's it's a tough process going 43 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: through the legal system anyway, as it is, But I remember, 44 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, I remember after the decision was made and that, 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, when we found out that that class action 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: had been one, there was there was you know, there 47 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: was real positivity. I interviewed a couple of the beautiful 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: women in the studio when that happened, and there was 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: real positivity. But now to hear that it hasn't flown 50 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: through must be so disappointing. 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: It is, it is, and it's not not just just 52 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: for myself, but but for the whole lot of us 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: because we are together as a family, the community. Yeah, 54 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: the Stolen generation. 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Us. What are some of those some of those members 56 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: of the Stolen generation that are still alive saying to 57 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: you and is this causing them sort of ongoing heartache? 58 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: It is? 59 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: It is, you know when you when you talk about things, 60 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: you've got to relive everything again. Thank you a when 61 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: you have to talk the story. 62 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Now. I understand that you're pretty concerned as well that 63 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: people who are entitled to those funds are getting sick 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and passing away during this lengthy delay. 65 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Yes, we've had quite a few funerals and it's and 66 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: it's not there. So we're all thinking, like you know, 67 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: we've lost so many people. Are we going to all 68 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: pass away before the money finally gets settled? And then 69 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: where is the money going to go to? 70 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, the train of what like, what are they saying 71 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: to you at the moment in terms. 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Of they're not saying anything. They're not saying anything. We've 73 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: been trying to ring them up, and every time you 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: ring up, you just get put through to our answering machine, 75 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: which is really disturbing, and you don't get any calls back. 76 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: Well, look, I tell you what, you know. What we 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: will do is we all try and get in contact 78 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: with Seine lawyers as well to find out, you know, 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: see if they will give us any any statement or 80 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: any kind of indication of where things are at. I 81 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to help much, but I'd 82 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: like to at least try and do that for you. 83 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: That would be really good, because look, we just feel like, 84 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: you know, that that money is for the stolen generation, 85 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: and we feel like that money is just getting stolen 86 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: off us. 87 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, I can understand that you guys are 88 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the right word that's not 89 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: a swear word, but that you'd be quite upset at this, 90 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, and that is still waiting after what's already 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: been a really traumatic time for your family and for 92 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: those members of the stolen generation. And and then you know, 93 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: particularly after feeling that you know that there was going 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: to be that compensation and now wondering where where it 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: is it must be really hard. 96 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: It is it is it's just just not knowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 97 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: just just being left in the dark. And I just feel, 98 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, for their professionalism, that they're not acting on it. 99 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Well, Katrina, let us see what we can find out. 100 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: As I said, I don't know whether we'll be able 101 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: to get much of an answer, but we'll at least 102 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: try and ask and find out where things are at. 103 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really beautiful. I really appreciate that, 104 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: no worries about just because we just we just want 105 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: someone to help us to. 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Get what we what you what you've been told you're 107 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: entitled to. I mean, this is the thing. Yes, So yeah, well, Katrina, 108 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you speaking to me this morning. I 109 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: know it would be really difficult, and I appreciate your 110 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: having a chat with me this morning. We'll do our 111 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: best to get in contact with them and see if 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: we can get some kind of update. 113 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: That would be beautiful. Thank you very much for that, Katie. 114 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: No worries, no worries, thank you. Thanks Katrine, Thanks for 115 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: having a chat with me this morning.