Speaker 1: It was a damn good there.
Speaker 2: Can't you just let her have a conversation without kicking
Speaker 2: the words that she uses a pie?
Speaker 1: I can't. It's true. It was a damn Matthew, it
Speaker 1: was a damn good move. I never heard you talk
Speaker 1: like that when she's in front of you. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you a young child, Oh, I'm sick of cheweling dog.
Speaker 3: Sorcerer.
Speaker 1: It was a production.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to two going dads, and we do have
Speaker 2: a mom just for a brief period.
Speaker 1: Grandmother, good grandmother.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
Speaker 2: it is the bad. And if you come for advice,
Speaker 2: don't don't do it from us, And no, definitely don't
Speaker 2: do it from Elie.
Speaker 1: What there we go, she's alive.
Speaker 2: Normally you would be relaxing upstairs in my bedroom waiting.
Speaker 3: To say it like that something going on the chimney.
Speaker 2: Well, every time that I go to get changed, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, coast is clear, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you come out from the curtains and you're like,
Speaker 2: take it off, big boy, do it slower, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how did you get up here? Yeah, it's tough living
Speaker 2: with a sex predator, my Lordie, but we are very
Speaker 2: thankful that you've decided to jump on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Ash.
Speaker 2: We were getting a little coffee before. She was very reluctant.
Speaker 2: What very what have I if I explained this is
Speaker 2: my mom Ellie.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ellie was reluctant to come in the podcast, but
Speaker 2: I thought we must, we must have her on.
Speaker 3: Oh god, we.
Speaker 1: Have to let her defend herself. Yes, yes, okay, she
Speaker 1: was dragged the coals through the mat. I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: the muddy coals. I did it gently. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's what they all say it was.
Speaker 2: It was hard work keeping this pregnancy a secret, and
Speaker 2: little did I know, hard work for who for me?
Speaker 1: Okay, I think, no, no, no, we need some context,
Speaker 1: Yes we do.
Speaker 3: We need time and place. Yes, you were on I'm
Speaker 3: a celeb, and you did not know about the baby
Speaker 3: at this stage. You did not know. I knew, and
Speaker 3: I was part of a very select.
Speaker 1: Few who knew inclusive.
Speaker 3: Now we were gathering here, Ash came that was back.
Speaker 1: He was here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My mum's freaking out because she's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: can I say that you were back because.
Speaker 1: You were still in the jungle. Come on, man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: It's for anyone if you're not.
Speaker 1: There, he was here that it's not as a manner,
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 2: Just so people understand, I was back from the jungle,
Speaker 2: but the Jungle finale hadn't gone to where yet, So
Speaker 2: I was back, but I was, you know, just in
Speaker 2: TV land.
Speaker 1: I was in the jungle still.
Speaker 3: But the main thing was you did not know about
Speaker 3: number three?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 1: Correct? Right?
Speaker 3: So Ash and I are in the kitchen. Ash of
Speaker 3: course is making them agaritas, and he doesn't sound like me,
Speaker 3: and he happens to say, hell, Law, do you want
Speaker 3: to have a margarita with me? And without hesitating, I
Speaker 3: go no. And then and then Ash goes why not?
Speaker 3: And I come up, why did you?
Speaker 1: Why did you say no?
Speaker 3: Because I suppose I was a bit worried that Law
Speaker 3: in the moment of I'm a celeb might go yes.
Speaker 1: You'd say yes.
Speaker 2: You think, hang on a second, Hang on a second.
Speaker 2: You think that the TV show I'm a Celebrity is
Speaker 2: enough to create a cloud within Laura's mind that she thinks,
Speaker 2: even though she's pregnant, she's allowed to drink alcohol.
Speaker 3: Oh you push me and we're corner here, but I
Speaker 3: have to say yes.
Speaker 1: It's a great show and it's only one drink.
Speaker 2: It's so it's enough to make a pregnant woman when
Speaker 2: out she's like, quick, give me mar I did make it.
Speaker 2: And I think Laura said yes because it's more of
Speaker 2: a scene to say no.
Speaker 1: So you say yes.
Speaker 3: So you say yes, and then you just put it
Speaker 3: to the side.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she's just been quiet. Yeah. He runs
Speaker 1: across the room in front of the margaret.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So then I think, oh my goodness, and Ash
Speaker 3: instantly goes what's going on, and I said, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: We've had a really busy day and she is exhausted.
Speaker 3: If she has a drink, she will just fall asleep and.
Speaker 1: We want to watch it and she'll die.
Speaker 3: And everybody else in the room kind of went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, not this guy.
Speaker 3: Ash looks at me. You pushed me literally into the corner.
Speaker 1: That never happened, that I can tell you what you're there.
Speaker 3: I no, And you said to me, you look me
Speaker 3: square in the eye, and you said, if you do
Speaker 3: not tell me the truth, that this is the truth.
Speaker 3: If you do not tell me the truth, I'm going
Speaker 3: to make a scene right here, right now, and he
Speaker 3: said it very menacingly.
Speaker 1: Yes, he can be aggressive.
Speaker 3: He can be so aggressive that with a seventy three
Speaker 3: year old say this aggressive do you have to be
Speaker 3: to a poor old seventy three year old.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying any of these. I'm not as was pushed.
Speaker 3: Into the corner nose to nose. If you do not
Speaker 3: tell me now what is going on, I'm going to
Speaker 3: make a say, well, what was I supposed to do? Matthew?
Speaker 3: Tell me?
Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus only I.
Speaker 1: Should be able to defend myself here, okay, before you
Speaker 1: we decided to fake okay, Donald, just keep it down
Speaker 1: a little bit with I offered her a drink. She said, yes,
Speaker 1: she did to be polite. I look over and old mate,
Speaker 1: oh here is like waving like she's back in an aeroplane.
Speaker 1: And I hide behind the corner over here because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not buying this story. I'm way too.
Speaker 3: Perceived in the corner.
Speaker 1: Why Jesus, my talk, me talk because I've been accused
Speaker 1: ashton year old woman. That never happened. I was in
Speaker 1: the corner. I coaxed you over a coke? You over?
Speaker 1: I was I admit the coaxing was aggressive. I was
Speaker 1: like it was, yeah, but there was this was a physicality.
Speaker 1: I was like, get on here now like this, and
Speaker 1: she sheepishly knew that she was going to spill the beans.
Speaker 1: She couldn't hold on to. It was juggling them around
Speaker 1: the house all afternoon. And then I brang her over
Speaker 1: and I got close to her face, see, not like
Speaker 1: nose to nose. I was like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: You got within her personal space for sure, okay, guilty
Speaker 2: of that, guilty.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to ask you one question. I
Speaker 1: just want you to nod your head.
Speaker 3: And rubbish, rubbish. No.
Speaker 1: At first she said, I said what's going on? She
Speaker 1: was like I can't tell you.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I just said thing's going on? And you
Speaker 3: said yes?
Speaker 1: And I was like, did you touch her?
Speaker 2: Did you touch her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, Eli, did he touch you?
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, I said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you one question. He's not your head and oh
Speaker 1: it was not God?
Speaker 3: Did you what did you not say? Tell me in
Speaker 3: this place? Tell me what is going on right now
Speaker 3: or I will make a scene. Did you or did
Speaker 3: you not say that?
Speaker 1: But you don't? And then is Laura pregnant? And I
Speaker 1: just said, nod your head in your hand.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I think I've got Ash. I've got
Speaker 2: to put blame on you. I think your behavior towards
Speaker 2: Ellie in the situation was absolutely unco I'm talking Ellie.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit upset. I didn't get to cause a
Speaker 1: saying if.
Speaker 3: I'm honest, I'm not anyway, And I would just like
Speaker 3: to say that I felt absolutely sick at that moment,
Speaker 3: thinking what have I done?
Speaker 1: I have now?
Speaker 3: I have now told Ash before you know how awful
Speaker 3: is that.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. My job here is done.
Speaker 3: I'm a terrible manner. Poor law is confiding in me.
Speaker 1: I'm very hat I'm very convincing.
Speaker 3: I've just spilled the beans. Scared.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 3: I was so scared for my life.
Speaker 2: You don't know this, Elliott, but you actually let it
Speaker 2: slip in front of me, and I knew before it
Speaker 2: told me, yes, yes, what?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh that makes me so happy.
Speaker 3: Oh. I really was thinking dementia. You know what dementia
Speaker 3: is setting in? Because I have no knowledge of that.
Speaker 1: I didn't thankfully I didn't see you a lot between
Speaker 1: now and then. She's been hiding. I know because I
Speaker 1: would have used it. I would have been like, yes,
Speaker 1: can you get me, can get me drink? If you
Speaker 1: don't get me in drink, I will end you. I
Speaker 1: will tell you told me, oh my, oh, fabricate a
Speaker 1: whole story where you pulled me and I said, yess what, Ash.
Speaker 3: I was so worried that in this sort of moment
Speaker 3: of hilarity, hey, guess what that you were going to
Speaker 3: say it before? Never I think I probably did say
Speaker 3: to you. I think I did. Matt doesn't know.
Speaker 1: You did tell me that, and you did tell me.
Speaker 1: I heard you say that, you did tell me how
Speaker 1: horrible you felt, and I just laughed. Yeah. Really, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we can now put this behind this,
Speaker 2: that you two can reconcile.
Speaker 1: But I also found the ultrasound before he told me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a john the Johnson.
Speaker 2: The Johnson family is terrible at keeping.
Speaker 3: Secret and I did so well.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it before you go.
Speaker 3: I just want to say one more thing, and I've
Speaker 3: forgotten what it was. Reason I was reluctant to come
Speaker 3: on today was because.
Speaker 2: I you're pregnant.
Speaker 3: He because I spoke to law after all of the
Speaker 3: event happened, and she said, oh my goodness, that was
Speaker 3: that was a close thing. The Ash doesn't know, does he?
Speaker 3: And I said no, no, I just said that you
Speaker 3: were very tired, you'd been working all day. You were exact, and.
Speaker 2: She knew, she knew the way you reacted. She was like,
Speaker 2: there's absolutely no way in hell that Ash does it,
Speaker 2: now know?
Speaker 3: But nobody else in the room, nobody else said what
Speaker 3: what's going on here? Only Ash was the only one.
Speaker 1: What does that say about the other people in the
Speaker 1: room there? It is.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not angry at you at all.
Speaker 3: I'm just disapp I'm so happy to hear that.
Speaker 2: Before you go, because I hate to break it to
Speaker 2: the listeners and to you as well, Ellie, that you
Speaker 2: might die. Well, you were not staying for the full episode.
Speaker 2: Your time here is now done.
Speaker 1: I could I have the time, and technically as soon
Speaker 1: as you're born, you're dying. There's morbid Thanks.
Speaker 2: Before you go, I would like to hear your thoughts
Speaker 2: about how you feel about becoming a nana for the
Speaker 2: third time in our family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's that's.
Speaker 1: What we've got time for. Sorry you go.
Speaker 3: No, I just think it's a wonderful blessing, and of
Speaker 3: course I'm excited and I want lots and lots of
Speaker 3: mad so's you're not going to stop now.
Speaker 2: I think we are.
Speaker 3: Given up on the other boys.
Speaker 1: Thoughts.
Speaker 3: I say that, but it's not happening. It's not happening.
Speaker 2: Let's just hope that. Don't listen to this episode.
Speaker 3: But they've you know, they've come out and said they
Speaker 3: don't want children, so it's their choice.
Speaker 1: Don't try and have children with them.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about it being a girl versus
Speaker 2: a boy?
Speaker 1: Three girls?
Speaker 3: You know, a girlfriend of mine had five boys and
Speaker 3: when a sixth and Alie Alison, and Alie said, look,
Speaker 3: we would have gone a sixth anyway, but I would
Speaker 3: like a change of scenery. And she had a little
Speaker 3: girl now a baby, healthy baby you all know is
Speaker 3: a blessing. Change of scenery might have been interesting.
Speaker 1: You can always move, but it took me all but.
Speaker 3: You know, look, I think it'll be great for the girls.
Speaker 3: You know, three little girls together and you're such a
Speaker 3: good girl, Damn.
Speaker 2: Laura, Nana Marley, Lola.
Speaker 3: Yeah, been castrated. Yes, apart from that, if.
Speaker 1: You get the snip and then you'll be castrated brothers. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think that's well.
Speaker 3: I think you're only strictly castrated when you lose your testicles,
Speaker 3: and when you get snip, you don't lose.
Speaker 1: Your f five legs between you and no testicle.
Speaker 2: Very good, Ellie, thank you so much for jumping.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: It was a pleasure to catch up with your beautiful
Speaker 3: young man again.
Speaker 1: Apologize, very proud of you as dead.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you really want me to go, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I did. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being so gentle with my mother.
Speaker 1: That's my pleasure. Before I tell you this story.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to promise you can't react to what
Speaker 2: I'm about to say to you.
Speaker 1: I can't promise you.
Speaker 2: So holidays have been recently, school holidays.
Speaker 1: Thank god they're over. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: I know, I know we had pony Club the song.
Speaker 1: Wait, what actual pony club? I knew you would react
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, don't do yourself any favors. Matt hit
Speaker 2: me out. It's not I don't know what kind of
Speaker 2: pony club you're thinking of.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like a bunch of spoilt kids riding
Speaker 1: their ponies. No, what did you buy a pony? No,
Speaker 1: if you buy a fucking pony, I will leave right now.
Speaker 2: I am so far in debt right now, I can
Speaker 2: barely afford to eat. There is no chance that we're
Speaker 2: buying Marley a pony.
Speaker 1: Not until next year. I'm king. We'll see how we
Speaker 1: perform in the next financial year.
Speaker 2: Ponies ponies are out of the question. But we were
Speaker 2: down the South coast, as you know, for a number
Speaker 2: of weeks. As you also know, it is very hard
Speaker 2: having your child, both children, every single day after day
Speaker 2: after day after day. So so there is a pony
Speaker 2: club down the South coast close to where we are staying.
Speaker 2: My niece goes to it.
Speaker 1: It's like regularly goes to it.
Speaker 2: No, it's just during school holidays and all it is okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all it is is a farm, right They have a
Speaker 2: couple of horses. Kids go and they kind of just
Speaker 2: work in the stables.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's not that okay. I thought immediately,
Speaker 1: I thought, hang on, you've stepped this thing up here.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just be pony people. I thought you were
Speaker 1: thinking we're going to be horse.
Speaker 2: People, and you know who also thought that? Who Marley?
Speaker 2: She was like, pony Club.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, about finally so people I can get
Speaker 1: along with.
Speaker 2: She watches a pony Club show. It's like a Barbie
Speaker 2: one on Netflix, and you know everyone rock.
Speaker 1: So it's a cartoon.
Speaker 2: It's like it's pony people. It paints a very specific
Speaker 2: feature of like that final like the finer people in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like a pony and we've got a pony
Speaker 1: club and we have lunch around the ponies.
Speaker 2: And then after they get picked up in a helicopter
Speaker 2: and go home. And Marley was like, oh, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing. So we went to pony Club.
Speaker 1: Marley was pumped.
Speaker 2: She was so excited because she was like, finally pony,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be running.
Speaker 1: I have my own pony. This is gonna be amazing.
Speaker 1: And she's like, what am I gonna wear?
Speaker 2: So we went to Kmart to buy her new outfit
Speaker 2: because you need to have long pants, you need to
Speaker 2: have boots, and I'm like, I'm not gonna buy her proper.
Speaker 1: You got to look like a pony person. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you mean, no, I.
Speaker 2: Just you need to have boots. She's got like either
Speaker 2: crocs or a pair of Puma shoes. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 2: need like boots.
Speaker 1: She's just like, I need to saddle.
Speaker 2: And so I got a k fifteen bucks for a
Speaker 2: pair of boots. Great, that's great. But she was thrilled.
Speaker 2: She had like an outfit sorted in the morning. She
Speaker 2: woke up, she bounced out of bed, had breakfast, got dress.
Speaker 1: Here's my outfitt what do you think?
Speaker 2: And so we get there and it's the farm. It's
Speaker 2: been raining a bit as well. The farm is quite muddy, okay,
Speaker 2: and like, oh God forbid the pony people have to
Speaker 2: walk in the bart. She's not listening because it was
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful farm. It's just it's a working it's
Speaker 2: a working farm, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's like counts, give me concrete it please, issusting, Lola,
Speaker 1: don't touch anything.
Speaker 2: So we get there and the lady who runs it
Speaker 2: is like she's a very like she's she's a strong woman,
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, break my hand. But she's lovely.
Speaker 2: She's lovely.
Speaker 1: Let me just this one more time. She's lovely.
Speaker 2: And I dropped Marley off and she's like, where.
Speaker 1: Are the horses. Where are the one am I going
Speaker 1: to get? Where's the body? Like a white one? Please
Speaker 1: buy that one for me?
Speaker 2: And the lady is like, here you go, gave her
Speaker 2: a shovel, gives her a bucket. Oh, and Mary's like,
Speaker 2: what's this for? I know the difference between a horse
Speaker 2: and a bucket, okay. And the first job they do,
Speaker 2: they're at pony Club for like a good half an hour,
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. They just shovel shit.
Speaker 1: That alone, that's really true.
Speaker 2: And so I like, I'm just going to, you know,
Speaker 2: drop and go. I don't want to hang around. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, mine, like have fun. And she's
Speaker 2: there going fucking keiding.
Speaker 1: This is child labor. Yeah, I've paid a couple.
Speaker 2: Hundred bucks for one hundred bucks three days through oh
Speaker 2: three day okay yeah, and he's left in there for
Speaker 2: three days shoveling shit.
Speaker 1: Mally was like what have I done to deserve?
Speaker 2: And Lola was like, I want to go to pony
Speaker 2: club and then we dropped her off. Laura was like,
Speaker 2: let's get the fuck out of here. So you're back
Speaker 2: in the car and then I'm all day. So it's
Speaker 2: eight thirty to three o'clock. Oh my god, Ma's going
Speaker 2: to be having a terrible time, like Jesus.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to pick her up.
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, there's no way that she's
Speaker 2: going to come back for like day two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then Mate.
Speaker 2: Picked her up.
Speaker 1: She frozen. She's like he a carrot. Molly's like, here
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: Now, I got to feed the fucking horses, so give
Speaker 2: us give us five, would you. She's smoking a cigarette
Speaker 2: to pick red. Yeah, straight to the heavy stuff can be.
Speaker 1: It's like she's gonna go split the bee over here hanging.
Speaker 1: I was like, what if you're done to my marlet?
Speaker 1: But I loved it what happens at Bony and Bony.
Speaker 2: I love that she was covered in the I was like,
Speaker 2: Mary pounds, I've got to She's like icking cares.
Speaker 1: Like these boots they're not steel cat. What you're trying
Speaker 1: to do? Help me lose my toes?
Speaker 2: Three days?
Speaker 1: Three days that she loved it. Ride a pony.
Speaker 2: She rode the pony Louis I think his name was.
Speaker 2: I mean when I say ride the pony, I mean
Speaker 2: she's not like bear backing through the bush. Like yeah,
Speaker 2: there's like a little pen and I think they just
Speaker 2: walk around and.
Speaker 1: That's probably what she was expecting the whole time, right,
Speaker 1: like we're going to a pony club. You can sit
Speaker 1: on a pane.
Speaker 2: I think that she thought she was going to be
Speaker 2: like galloping through like the woods and over jumps like Spirit.
Speaker 1: Who's that? Don't you know? Spirit? It's a show about horses.
Speaker 1: It's a cartoon show Spirit Netflix. I haven't seen it. No,
Speaker 1: we should that sure love it. You'll have to own
Speaker 1: a pony there, because then she'll be like this is
Speaker 1: what I deserve. One day you'll get home and they'll
Speaker 1: be ride and bust with a saddle horse.
Speaker 2: Hey, how where is Oscar's first day back at school?
Speaker 1: He's pretty good except to wear little shit like he
Speaker 1: look he's spoilt in a way that I ride him
Speaker 1: down on the electric bike and he loves that because
Speaker 1: he's reride past his mates who were just in their
Speaker 1: rain drovers. We ride past his mates and he's like, Hi,
Speaker 1: like Maley, we planelo bake a school. And she'd be like,
Speaker 1: I went to pony club, I had shovel shit. Oscar writes,
Speaker 1: He's like Charlie and just gives this look like I'm
Speaker 1: better than you because it was raining this morning. He
Speaker 1: was like, we're not going to get to ride the bike. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's all right. We can ride
Speaker 1: the car down there and it's fun and I'll push
Speaker 1: you out and you can walk down and it's a
Speaker 1: long path to from the top to the bottom. And
Speaker 1: it was raining and I was late and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: all right. He was like can you walk down with me?
Speaker 1: And I was like, sorry, is that how the story is? Coughing?
Speaker 1: I was like, get the fuck out of my car. No.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, oh yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: a drop and go. So I had to find a park. Dude.
Speaker 1: I was the same. I had to message my therapist
Speaker 1: and be like I'm going to be late and she's
Speaker 1: like we're going to be talking about this and I
Speaker 1: was like tears tears from oscar. Nah. So we walked down.
Speaker 1: It was raining, it was really slippery. We walked down
Speaker 1: through the bush track and it's nicely. It was fine.
Speaker 1: And then once I got to the end, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can see your mates and the bells about to go.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. And then he was like okay, sweet
Speaker 1: and went off. And I was also like, good on him,
Speaker 1: because when I was young and my first day back,
Speaker 1: I would wail like him.
Speaker 2: Dude, that was Marley. Oh what hysterical. She loves it though,
Speaker 2: Yeah I thought so. She was like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's super emotional club. Yeah, I was like the hardened
Speaker 2: Marley of like pony club days was gone and like
Speaker 2: the pathetic note I got pathetic.
Speaker 1: Perfect. But it was one of those.
Speaker 2: Mornings like Laura got up early for work and said
Speaker 2: Marley woke up and Laura had already left for work
Speaker 2: because she was crying over that. And I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not reacting, but just like I was like, where's your shoes,
Speaker 2: just like I know everything and boots and then the
Speaker 2: same thing she I was like, I'm going to drop
Speaker 2: you off, you can just go, and she's like.
Speaker 1: Can you walk me in? I was like, fuck, just hysterical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right when you like walked her in and fully left.
Speaker 2: And Yeah, there's a really lovely lady who I don't
Speaker 2: know her exact job, but she kind of took my child.
Speaker 1: She kind of just like gives the kids a hug.
Speaker 2: She's like the mom of the school, but she just
Speaker 2: hangs out at the school and hugs kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of like a teachers out. It's sexual predator,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, my child, how long have you worked
Speaker 1: at the school for she's worked at the school school?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I lived here, it was my house.
Speaker 2: But she's great, She's like so awesome. And she was
Speaker 2: giving me like a hug, and Molly was like, fuck.
Speaker 1: Off, I want my daddy. Could off be a stranger?
Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. Yeah. I used to walk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom used to walk me to school on the
Speaker 1: way to the bus stop. And I remember as a
Speaker 1: child crying a lot. Yeah, I don't know what about.
Speaker 1: I was like trying to sympathize, but also get out
Speaker 1: of my car, Get out of my car. But poulstery
Speaker 1: Marley does love the bike. Yeah, it's just like it's
Speaker 1: just so weather permitting. I prefer the bike too. I
Speaker 1: love the bike.
Speaker 2: I love the bike. I was riding the bike yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Just on your own Marley.
Speaker 2: In the back right, were a little right around, got
Speaker 2: a haircut?
Speaker 1: Can I have a turn on the back?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You can. Well my big butt fit in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah you will, yeah, yeah, long side saddle, don't you
Speaker 2: don't you worry?
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: We went for a ride around and we're on the
Speaker 2: way back home and there's currently some construction going on.
Speaker 2: They're fixing one of the roads.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I think I know the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's annoying, you know, cars are always banked up.
Speaker 2: And so came up to this part where the road
Speaker 2: was under construction and I thought to myself, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna nip onto the footpath.
Speaker 1: You're on a bike against that, right, And.
Speaker 2: So I was on the footpath going slowly right about
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty meters.
Speaker 1: Then you can say one hundred and fifty k's I'm
Speaker 1: not very slowly.
Speaker 2: I nip back onto the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay. And then as I knit back on.
Speaker 2: The road, I hear this guy go oy oy, and
Speaker 2: I was like, like, someone's having a crack at me.
Speaker 2: So I turn over my shoulder and he's like oy
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, Like do you know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. I was gonna say, I flip
Speaker 1: that guy the fucking bird. God, that's how I think it.
Speaker 2: You I'm on the foot path trying to yell at me,
Speaker 2: and even Marley was like, what's he getting?
Speaker 1: So angry about I know what you did. However, can
Speaker 1: I guess? Can I guess what happened? There was wet cement,
Speaker 1: he right across the it's so good. No.
Speaker 2: So it turns out the person that I gave the
Speaker 2: finger to, which I am sorry that I did, that
Speaker 2: was the.
Speaker 1: Wrong thing to do. I shouldn't have done it. Now
Speaker 1: I stand by it.
Speaker 2: Marley had a little soft toy that had just fallen
Speaker 2: out of the bike.
Speaker 1: Oh ah, and he was holding the toy. I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: did you get it back? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I was like, I can't turn around now.
Speaker 1: So what did you What did you say to him?
Speaker 1: I just kept on riding, like, no man left behind you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a different way to school now, just
Speaker 1: in case you run into that guy. It's a good lesson.
Speaker 1: That's a good life lesson. It's a good I did
Speaker 1: tell you that Oscar lurnt the finger from Popper a
Speaker 1: while back, but he does use it sometimes, And just
Speaker 1: that just jogged my memory. I was at a kid's
Speaker 1: party with Oscar obviously, was just there without a kid.
Speaker 1: That'd be weird your first time. Well, that was a misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pony club. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like Oscar, like trying to get his attention, and
Speaker 1: he just looks over and he goes flip to you
Speaker 1: to me in front of all the other parents, and
Speaker 1: I just what do you do? I'm a funny guy.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking dead. And then honestly, my mate Mike thought it
Speaker 1: was fucking hilarious. He was like, how did you teach
Speaker 1: him to do that? I was like, I didn't do it, April.
Speaker 1: April's dad did, but yeah, I feel like giving the
Speaker 1: finger to there's someone in traffic probably yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was going to say, like someone like having
Speaker 1: a cracky you be going on the foot path. Then
Speaker 1: off like that. I went to I went to Brunswick.
Speaker 1: That's like me Byron, Yeah yeah, yeah, beautiful, lovely. My
Speaker 1: cousins live down there and they're doing all this roadwork
Speaker 1: and like they're like where the car park is, and
Speaker 1: people have put who live in the residentials have just
Speaker 1: taken upon themselves to put their own witches hats up
Speaker 1: saying you can't park here. I was like, it's a
Speaker 1: long weekend. I'm fucking barking there, mate, don't you worry anyway.
Speaker 1: I pull in with the kids and everything in a
Speaker 1: rental car. I'm clearly not from there. I had Victorian
Speaker 1: plates on it. I look like an absolutely, I'm just blowing,
Speaker 1: a blowing of the highest regard like I am. First
Speaker 1: of all, I'm from Sydney driving a rental car with
Speaker 1: Victorian plates on it. I couldn't be any further like
Speaker 1: a tourist flash. It couldn't be any other anymore tourists
Speaker 1: unless I was driving on the other side of the
Speaker 1: fucking car. And I get out and I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: at the beach with shoes on. But that's even worse.
Speaker 1: I've been driving. I'm not dressed with the beach. We're
Speaker 1: at the beach. But I was like, I can always
Speaker 1: get dress. And I shut the door and I saw
Speaker 1: this some someone looking out peering out over their balcony
Speaker 1: like someone's parked where I know, and they're like, you
Speaker 1: can't part there. I was like, you're the parking police
Speaker 1: and she was like no, no, no, but I leave here,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, oh, you can
Speaker 1: fuck off then, and I just got my kids and
Speaker 1: just kept walking, and I was like, they're probably going
Speaker 1: to fuck my rental car up here, and at first,
Speaker 1: at first glance, I thought, yeah, fuck, I showed her.
Speaker 1: I showed her, And then I caught up with my
Speaker 1: parents that were there as well, and Dad's like, did
Speaker 1: you park along there? I was like yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, how's this though? There's people put parking signs
Speaker 1: up there, and I'm like He's like, yeah, that's because
Speaker 1: they're doing roadworks and they're actually taking over all of
Speaker 1: their driveways and they've been told by the counsel that
Speaker 1: they can park then.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh shit, anyway, she's just trying
Speaker 2: to help you out.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look I felt horrible about it, and I
Speaker 1: was like oh, and Dad was like you parked there,
Speaker 1: didn't you. I was like yeah, because you better go
Speaker 1: move it. You didn't tell they wont to fuck off,
Speaker 1: did you? And I was like oh fuck. And April
Speaker 1: was like yeah, you should have seen what he did.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, we're bad people. Okay, we
Speaker 1: know it. I know, you know it, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to get better, I know. But Dad's the sort of
Speaker 1: guy who's like he's the biggest people pleaser. He was like,
Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna go back, and I was like no,
Speaker 1: and Mom's like, ah, fuck them. Oh, And so I
Speaker 1: left it there for like hours and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh sheepishly walked back. I said to Dad, like, we went,
Speaker 1: had a lunch at the pub, had a couple of
Speaker 1: had a couple of beers to get some courage. And
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, go back and get the car.
Speaker 1: Walk back with Dad and Dad was like, look at
Speaker 1: your car there.
Speaker 3: All on it.
Speaker 1: I was like the only car there. And I was like, oh, fuck. Anyway,
Speaker 1: she's there leering over again, and I was like that's it.
Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, don't look, that's her over there.
Speaker 1: And Dad's like, sorry about that. Fuck. And then I
Speaker 1: just yeah, got in the car and forgot out of
Speaker 1: there quick. Smart. But I just reminded me of that. Sorry.
Speaker 1: If you are listening, lady from the same class. If
Speaker 1: you are listening, lady who I parked, I don't even
Speaker 1: don't try. You're not sorry. I'd do it again. Ash.
Speaker 2: We should have recorded parrant parant jingle.
Speaker 1: We haven't.
Speaker 2: No, we are going to get to it next week,
Speaker 2: we promise. No one really gave any feedback on the
Speaker 2: song with what we have. Then one person gave me
Speaker 2: a suggestion. I can't remember what it was, but to
Speaker 2: that person, I did acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to say that our idea was better.
Speaker 1: At the moment, we're telling people off.
Speaker 2: So you're lucky, You're lucky you didn't receive a finger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just get one in the mail.
Speaker 2: But we're going to do We're going to do one
Speaker 2: quick parant.
Speaker 1: Yes we are.
Speaker 2: Would you like to go jazzmine my virginity to do?
Speaker 1: Adjussemine? Did you well?
Speaker 2: Jazzmnine Adjasmine is from Sweden and she says, so my
Speaker 2: kid is a ginger.
Speaker 1: Yeap moving on fantomn.
Speaker 2: Sorry, and not like a slight red tone in his hair.
Speaker 2: He is ginger ginger. Neither I nor his father are
Speaker 2: just a few freckles on both of us.
Speaker 1: Milkman's got some explaining to do.
Speaker 2: I knows the old fucking lady staring us down when
Speaker 2: we were out and about going about our business. She
Speaker 2: then leans in and asks, how come he's ginger?
Speaker 1: Something my man would do? You know what the fuck?
Speaker 2: He's our kid? Sorry, Jasmon, he's our kid.
Speaker 1: We made him, I know because I was there.
Speaker 2: But hypothetically he could be adopted a sperm donation or
Speaker 2: a child from a previous marriage. I'm so over talking
Speaker 2: about the genetics of it all.
Speaker 1: With people I don't even know. People are way too
Speaker 1: fucking nosey.
Speaker 2: A well, it doesn't help. There's a lot of ginger
Speaker 2: in the photo already.
Speaker 1: This is a red photo.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of she's got her self to blame here.
Speaker 2: She's put him in a very specifically colored top, playing
Speaker 2: with a toy that's very specifically colored.
Speaker 1: Show me god, Oh holy, the slides even ginger.
Speaker 2: But beautiful child, beautiful kid, beautiful love it, gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Child, very ginger though Macy was very ginger too, Like
Speaker 1: she's they grow out of it. That's horrible. Did you
Speaker 1: ever did you ever cop any questions? It was more
Speaker 1: I cop because she's indigenous and she's a ginger, and
Speaker 1: people will be like and they're just ignorance. Really, people
Speaker 1: would be like, so a few of us, how can
Speaker 1: she be how can she be indigenous as she's ginger?
Speaker 1: And I remember, like one guy said, someone was like
Speaker 1: it was a dad at kindy just it was it
Speaker 1: was I don't want to make this sound like he's
Speaker 1: a dick, because he's not. He was just like ignorance
Speaker 1: and I played with I play with people. Matthew J. Johnson,
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, how come like she's you know,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, you know, just I was like
Speaker 1: what what background? What background are you and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know German. It was like's funny, I've never seen you.
Speaker 1: I've never heard your kids speak German. And he was
Speaker 1: like what. I was like, you know, mind your own business.
Speaker 2: And it was like, did you beat him up in
Speaker 2: the car We had, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we had a laugh about him, and I walked
Speaker 1: about I don't really mind because it is strange and
Speaker 1: like also, if you know, like April is blonde, I'm
Speaker 1: dark haired, dark features, and then Macy was ginger, and
Speaker 1: it's like, is there must be someone along the line
Speaker 1: in their family that has like April's Arnie has like
Speaker 1: strugberry blood hair. We just was like, well the Armie,
Speaker 1: but also Macy's so pale yeh. She's like, see, I
Speaker 1: don't agree.
Speaker 2: I was quick quick to react to I apologize and uh,
Speaker 2: it just beautiful as.
Speaker 1: Joke about that she goes in the dark and it
Speaker 1: was like you know those little you know beat you know,
Speaker 1: those deep sea vision there's see through like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: get close enough. Just either that's it gets Sorry sorry anyway,
Speaker 1: I would say take a leaf out of Maddie Jay's
Speaker 1: book and if someone questioned you, just Ash, we have
Speaker 1: some questions we do Matt, I'll go first. Ye's a
Speaker 1: question from Hannah. Hello Hannah, a normal name for once,
Speaker 1: is it? Hannah? Do you think dad should take equal
Speaker 1: parental leave when baby is born, not at the same
Speaker 1: time as mum, but as the primary care It's a.
Speaker 2: Very good question, Ash and Hannah. Look, I think I
Speaker 2: think it's interesting when you talk to the older dads
Speaker 2: who never took any time off, like they were kind
Speaker 2: of lucky. I think my dad took the morning off
Speaker 2: for the birth and he was back at work at lunchtime.
Speaker 2: That's the old generation.
Speaker 1: That's why it's crazy. That's so crazy. I think that
Speaker 1: was for the first child. The rest of us, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like have you had it yet? Yeah? Is like one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: not yet.
Speaker 2: It's amazing that workplaces now are acknowledging the importance of
Speaker 2: parental leave for dads and for mums. And I think, look,
Speaker 2: I know that not all places are as flexible as others,
Speaker 2: so it may not be an option, but if it
Speaker 2: is an option to take ten did parental leave? I
Speaker 2: think dad's are absolutely stupid if they don't take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would also like check the legislation what's actually
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't. They're just like, okay,
Speaker 1: well my company won't they give him two weeks and
Speaker 1: that's all right, because I know when I had Oscar
Speaker 1: the first kid, the company I worked for, they offered
Speaker 1: three months okay, but was in conjunction with a particular legislation, right,
Speaker 1: which is you can take three months as a primary
Speaker 1: career okay, And they need to stat decks and and
Speaker 1: proof of that to be to take that time off.
Speaker 1: But also the company worked for need to agree with
Speaker 1: that too, because there would be businesses out there and
Speaker 1: be like, no, what it's like, Well, that't make anyone unhappy.
Speaker 1: But I know I worked with before I had kids.
Speaker 1: I worked with two guys that did that that after
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time and mum went back to work.
Speaker 1: Usually because you also loved a career, very career driven,
Speaker 1: they would go, okay, well I'm going to take three
Speaker 1: months off, and I think, like I think it gives
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to bond with that child playing more
Speaker 1: like for me, I took two weeks off with Oscar,
Speaker 1: but because of some complications we had, I ended up
Speaker 1: taking three months off unpaid, completely unpaid, because it was like,
Speaker 1: I need to go now, and they were like, do
Speaker 1: your thing. It will support you as much as possible.
Speaker 1: And over that time it changed absolutely everything. Here's something
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who's got a nine month old
Speaker 1: was like, he's sort of starting to be able to
Speaker 1: bond with that kid more because he's more there's more
Speaker 1: for him to do now when I think, but he's
Speaker 1: still got to work, but he's he's like, I wish
Speaker 1: I could have more time off now. Yeah. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. If you get to like nine months okay,
Speaker 1: and your partner is coming to the end of their
Speaker 1: parental leave and she's really excited about going back to
Speaker 1: it because it's also great for It was great for
Speaker 1: April to go back and have adult conversations. Then you're
Speaker 1: going to have three months of you get three months
Speaker 1: of complete bonding with that child. It changed me that
Speaker 1: time because I would be you know, I can't wear
Speaker 1: the first sort of first generation where it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: go straight back to work. But I had to conform
Speaker 1: to that right and I kind of felt like I
Speaker 1: missed out on so much until it was like unfortunately
Speaker 1: it came out of bad circumstances, but it was like
Speaker 1: at the end of it was like the best.
Speaker 2: Thing that it's totally I think. Number one, to give
Speaker 2: mom a break, you know, in the first few months
Speaker 2: obviously newborn babies are so dependent on mum. But after
Speaker 2: that period, if mum wants to go back to work,
Speaker 2: to allow them to do that by their dad being
Speaker 2: a home amazing or just having a break from being
Speaker 2: the sole parent, like the sole caregiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the child.
Speaker 2: Number two, like you said, having that bond, having that
Speaker 2: bond is so important and it also lets you understand
Speaker 2: and like what's required talk after a child, Like there
Speaker 2: are so many people that are like, well, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know not long after the baby. You're also good,
Speaker 1: I don't you do it?
Speaker 2: And it's like if you have that one on one time,
Speaker 2: you understand all the nuances of looking after a child
Speaker 2: from morning tonight, what's required, items, schedules, routines, et cetera.
Speaker 2: It also means that your wife is not going to
Speaker 2: be stressed out any situation where you have to look
Speaker 2: after the child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like I think when it comes to
Speaker 1: the time when you know mum and dad are both
Speaker 1: around and you know baby, your child will go, their
Speaker 1: first instinct is to go to mum, right, But if
Speaker 1: you've spent three months with them, then that's like, hang
Speaker 1: on a minute, They've got two options. They've got two
Speaker 1: options now, because I think a lot of the time
Speaker 1: dudes don't take that time off or didn't take that
Speaker 1: time off previously to now is because they didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do, yes, right, And it's like I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do. But you you know, we for
Speaker 1: thousands of years men and women have been procreating and
Speaker 1: we just it's just it's sort of part of our
Speaker 1: DNA and in the end, you can't be completely non maternal.
Speaker 1: So like I found that into that deep end was
Speaker 1: probably the best thing for me now as a parent,
Speaker 1: because I could deal with it then that I've just
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a three month probation, right,
Speaker 1: It's like a trial period. You know, want to get
Speaker 1: to the end of that. But like, you learn so
Speaker 1: much more if you're on the job all the time.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's a perfect way to share
Speaker 2: the load beyond that, because I think there are so
Speaker 2: many dads who don't take that time to have one
Speaker 2: on one specific time with the child.
Speaker 1: They have no.
Speaker 2: Appreciation for how hard it is. And I think once
Speaker 2: you have that one on one time where it's just
Speaker 2: you and bub at home, holy shit, dude, it is
Speaker 2: so incredibly hard. I was like, Ah, this job sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like having the worst boss. Yeah you have.
Speaker 1: You've got a child for a boss, like a baby
Speaker 1: for a boss. And I completely understand that a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of men don't think that they can
Speaker 1: do it in terms of like their job, or they
Speaker 1: might not have the access to or they might not
Speaker 1: know they have access to things that the government provide.
Speaker 1: But I would say, if you want to do it,
Speaker 1: fucking do it. Do it. Like like I said, if
Speaker 1: you can. I understand that some people can't just do
Speaker 1: that and they've got to work and make extra money
Speaker 1: on top to survive because of how expensive sheit is.
Speaker 1: But like I would say, if you're thinking about, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I would like to spend more time with my kid
Speaker 1: as a dad and like a new kid as a dad,
Speaker 1: hit your HR up, hit check fair work, check all
Speaker 1: these things because there are things there that we don't
Speaker 1: know about that you could, you know, take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: Other places don't.
Speaker 2: That's being all serious because weird.
Speaker 1: We just flipping people off, and now we're telling people
Speaker 1: to take time. Take one's spend more time with your children. Ash.
Speaker 2: Yes, last question before we go, what are the top
Speaker 2: three baby or toddler items that are a scam?
Speaker 1: Oh? So many? You go first, The whole system's a scam. Man,
Speaker 1: it's very hippie that word. It's a scam. Life of scam,
Speaker 1: gifing kids a scam. Just relax, fas, don't worry about
Speaker 1: it all. Don't worry about life man um. Firstly for me, yes,
Speaker 1: nappy bin. Oh, just put it in the regular bin
Speaker 1: and we had a nappy bin for both and look
Speaker 1: handy for it's there, but it's just a more expensive bin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tiny, two nappies and it's.
Speaker 1: Then you pull the thing out. It's so fucking heavy.
Speaker 1: I remember once I that's right. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you want to be funny? Two story building? Not funny?
Speaker 1: Do you want to be easy? For me? I might
Speaker 1: just lower it off the balcony, so I have to
Speaker 1: take it through the house, lowered it, and it was
Speaker 1: so heavy it slipped out of my hands. Boof because
Speaker 1: of the nappy bin, because the fucking nappy.
Speaker 2: This is controversial, okay, but keeping with nappies, change tables, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: I think there are a waste of space.
Speaker 1: It's a first child thing. You're like, gotta get a
Speaker 1: change table, Gotta get one, gotta.
Speaker 2: Be stacked done with my wipes, a my nappies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. With Macy we had the change table
Speaker 1: phone bit a soft bit because I think it's that's important.
Speaker 1: But it was on top of a chest of drawers.
Speaker 1: She even rolled off once into a draw. They have
Speaker 1: it take heavens, but then the whole draw.
Speaker 2: It's just fine. But I agree, I just changed on
Speaker 2: the floor. You're a floor to floor changer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never used the change table. I mean handy. I
Speaker 1: didn't bad for your back all fours like a cat.
Speaker 1: I can see the cat over there, be like, don't
Speaker 1: bring me. Number two I had was those electric rockers.
Speaker 1: I never used to give me out. It's essentially a
Speaker 1: ride for the kid. Wouldn't it make you season? No?
Speaker 1: The manual one fine, and they're so cheap. The manual
Speaker 1: the bounce because also it gives the kid opportunity to
Speaker 1: realize that if they move their feet, hang on, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can bounce. I control this. It's like have you
Speaker 1: ever got into a hammock and thought, hang in a minute,
Speaker 1: I could swing.
Speaker 2: I like to have one leg out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got control. Imagine if you didn't have controls.
Speaker 1: You want to give someone someone stopped, someone stopping?
Speaker 2: You want to give you a child autonomy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be like just sitting there someone,
Speaker 1: I've got my just like we're going forwards now. It's
Speaker 1: essentially a roller coaster for a child.
Speaker 2: My number two baby shoes, damn newborn baby shoes? What
Speaker 2: like they're cute Para Nikes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like how adorable they are? There's the miniature.
Speaker 1: Can we also talk about how round the bottom of
Speaker 1: baby feet? H I can't remember because they're so chubby.
Speaker 1: They're just like fancing around. So you want to give
Speaker 1: that up with a fucking a flat surface?
Speaker 2: No, one's it's pointless. It's pointless.
Speaker 1: It's all. Do you know what it's all for the
Speaker 1: vanity of the parents. Yes, it look at my child.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's really bad for their feet as well. Apparently
Speaker 1: we are very helpful. Yes, go number three. Okay, So
Speaker 1: mine's not a whole product, it's part of a product,
Speaker 1: if you would say. So, you've got the pram, the
Speaker 1: forward facing pram, not the back facing pram. Yes, so
Speaker 1: they've yet forward thoughts. Uh. And they've got the lid
Speaker 1: yep for the sun, the hood rain the hood hood
Speaker 1: if you will, jinks. And it's got the tiny little
Speaker 1: flap at the top so you can check in on them.
Speaker 2: They're great, beautiful because you don't want to wake them up,
Speaker 2: you know, if they're napping.
Speaker 1: But if they're sitting facing forward, I'm just getting a
Speaker 1: knife full of a crate of the cap of their head.
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, then I've got to go. I've
Speaker 1: got to flip it back. It's such a pointless fla
Speaker 1: it's a pointless flat.
Speaker 2: It's a point flat, like a pointless poet sticking with clothing.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with bows.
Speaker 1: Vanity, vanity, the vanity of the parents out. The child
Speaker 1: hates it. Cute though a little bit kid. So look,
Speaker 1: I would say they're useless in terms of their functionality
Speaker 1: good for a phone, very useful. If you're like babies,
Speaker 1: I can't hold his neck up, but look how straight
Speaker 1: my bow is.
Speaker 2: If you have any items that you think absolutely pointless scams, if.
Speaker 1: We're being scammed out there by the incorporations, do you
Speaker 1: have one? I want to talk about it. I can't wait,
Speaker 1: I can't wait, can't wait. It would be really quick. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was those bibs, the plastic bibs with the I
Speaker 1: was going to say bigs, but I was saying I
Speaker 1: was going to say, it's the bib with the catcher
Speaker 1: in the bottom. It's too skinny for the catch ship
Speaker 1: and catching no one as if a kid's like I
Speaker 1: need to spit this out, I'm going to say they're
Speaker 1: like I think bibs in general, like just you're gonna
Speaker 1: wash a bib, gonna wash the clothes? I just I
Speaker 1: feed my child, just extra Yeah, smart them down.
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Speaker 2: If you can, just on your body, just point to
Speaker 2: where Ash was was physical with you, please please do it,
Speaker 2: point to your breasts.
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