WEBVTT - Max McKenna - JONES FAMILY CHRISTMAS - Actor

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<v Speaker 1>I have Max McKenna, stage and screen actor, well known

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<v Speaker 1>for playing Muriel in Muriel's Wedding, the stage show which

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<v Speaker 1>toured Australia. Max went on to star alongside Natalie Bassingthway

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<v Speaker 1>in Jagger Little pill, which I actually saw five times. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a problem. Max is also known for being

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<v Speaker 1>the only child of Gena Riley, one of my favorite comedians.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to unpack their feature role in the

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<v Speaker 1>film Jones Family Christmas, which is now available to watch

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<v Speaker 1>on STAN Australia. The Christmas feature involves an eccentric grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Jones played by Heather Mitchell, who finally manages to

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole family under the same roof for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But all is not as merry and as bright in

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<v Speaker 1>this rural home. From heartbreak and depression to meddling mothers

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<v Speaker 1>and forced frivolity, every member of Heather's extended clan is

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<v Speaker 1>fighting an internal battle, which I think is something we

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<v Speaker 1>can all relate to, especially at Christmas time. This film

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<v Speaker 1>is like a warm hug from Mum, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you all take the time to check out Max in

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<v Speaker 1>this story, as they are sensational as the non binary

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<v Speaker 1>youngest child in the Jones family. We will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Max's role in the film and if their own journey

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<v Speaker 1>through gender and sexuality discovery helped the writers and producers

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<v Speaker 1>tell the most authentic story. I will ask Max in

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<v Speaker 1>this chat about play Muriel's wedding and if that role

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<v Speaker 1>left as much of an impact on her as it

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<v Speaker 1>did for Tony Khalet. Max will share some really fun

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<v Speaker 1>stories about Gina Riley and which character was their favorite

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. Plus, we're going to get some exclusives from

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of Jones Family Christmas, which, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>is now out on Stan Australia, so you should go

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<v Speaker 1>and check that out. Anyway, guys, let's bring Max into

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<v Speaker 1>the podcasting. Guys, I hope you enjoyed this catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with one of Australia's brightest stars. Hey Max, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I should probably tell you right up from

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<v Speaker 1>the start that I'm probably your biggest fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, thank you. That's very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a really fun story that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start this podcast with. But I live in Tuac and

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<v Speaker 1>the video store that I used to go to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over last when the video stores existed, was the one

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<v Speaker 1>in Armadale, And it actually was the same video store

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<v Speaker 1>that you used to go to as a kid with

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<v Speaker 1>your parents. And I was in there once paying late fees,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were there and your mom's like, hurry, up

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<v Speaker 1>and choose a DVD.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that sounds about right, because I would

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<v Speaker 3>spend hours in there and I was so indecisive. So

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<v Speaker 3>she was always like, please just pick a film.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what movies? Used to go as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid to the video store and rent all the time?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was obsessed with TV shows, like I

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<v Speaker 3>watched lane On and Woodley probably a hundred times. That

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of my favorite. But movies, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>was obsessed with Mean Girls, and I was way too

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<v Speaker 3>young to be watching it, but I just was obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with it. Any any kind of comedy, anything fun and

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<v Speaker 3>camp I loved.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think with Mean Girls, that's the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of film that as kids you want to watch, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of the jokes go over your

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<v Speaker 1>head or as you know, maybe a little bit not

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<v Speaker 1>suitable for your age demographic.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I did grow up in a comedian's household,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was probably exposed to jokes I shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>been exposed to younger than other kids, but so I

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<v Speaker 3>was just accustomed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think with this movie Joanes Family Christmas, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's that sort of movie that as a kid, you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and rent again and again. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>watching films like Bushfire Moon and Bush Christmas. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a favorite Christmas movie that you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you and your family used to watch again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we still kind of watch Love actually every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's basic, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just the film that my family love, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's such a great film, and every time

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<v Speaker 3>I watch it, I go, oh, it's just so well done,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's got the spirit of Christmas there and it's

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<v Speaker 3>quite beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Love actually is one of those films that

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<v Speaker 1>we all grew up watching. I actually saw that at

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<v Speaker 1>the cinemas with my parents and my younger sister. She's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bit young for that at that age. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite now looking back is The Family Stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't seen that one. What's that involved?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's got Diane Keaton in it, it's got Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Parker, and it's very similar to Jones' Family Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>and you're getting all of the siblings back under the

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<v Speaker 1>same house for Christmas, and you know, drama ensues love that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I went into watching this film, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to expect, and I actually don't always

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<v Speaker 1>love Christmas movies, especially they're too cheesy. But I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like this film is like a warm hug

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<v Speaker 1>from mum. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I saw it for the first time last night

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<v Speaker 3>actually on a big screen, which was really cool, and

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<v Speaker 3>I felt the same I think. I mean, I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with Heather Mitchell, and I think she has that she

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<v Speaker 3>has that energy if she's everyone's mum, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>think she really holds this film together and is such

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<v Speaker 3>the heart of it that you know, I cried at

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<v Speaker 3>the end when she cries, and yeah, it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how with a film like this,

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<v Speaker 1>like how did it all happen? Like how did it

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<v Speaker 1>come across your desk? How did you get involved?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I was traveling and I just I got an audition

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<v Speaker 3>and with it came the script and I went, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so cool an Australian Christmas film with lesbian

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<v Speaker 3>character in it. And I thought that was so so

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<v Speaker 3>exciting and such a cool step for us with representation,

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<v Speaker 3>and the character was so funny and I really connected

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<v Speaker 3>to the story and so I just really wanted it

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<v Speaker 3>and put down a tape and thankfully the stars aligned

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<v Speaker 3>and I booked it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what drew you to this particular role?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like, you know, yes, they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it is a lesbian character, and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a marriage between who you are and

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<v Speaker 1>where you are in your life and this particular character.

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<v Speaker 1>But what made you want to take this role on?

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<v Speaker 2>I think?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've been lucky enough now to pet to

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<v Speaker 3>play a few queer characters, and since coming out is queer,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been really really special for me because I spent

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<v Speaker 3>so long grappling with my identity. So now getting to

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<v Speaker 3>step into roles like this and be a love interest

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<v Speaker 3>and have a romantic interest in a film whilst being

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<v Speaker 3>an openly queer, non binary person, it's just really really

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<v Speaker 3>heartwarming and exciting, and I just feel incredibly lucky that

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<v Speaker 3>I live in this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that the way in which your

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<v Speaker 1>character struggles with gender and same sex attractive relationships feels

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<v Speaker 1>very honest. Did you get a chance to work with

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<v Speaker 1>the writers the directors, Like, did they ask you to

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<v Speaker 1>add anything to this to the character?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they'd done a real, really good job of

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, writing and creating of it, and it

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<v Speaker 3>felt pretty authentic to me. When I first read it,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't read it and go, oh, this doesn't feel true.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it actually felt quite honest about the experience of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not being accepted by someone else's family, which

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<v Speaker 3>is an issue for a lot of queer relationships. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just came in and we had lots of conversations

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<v Speaker 3>and they were so open and they I think they

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted a queer person.

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<v Speaker 2>To play this role, so it did feel true.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, Talie, who plays my love interest, is also queer,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was it was really nice to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to talk from a place of authenticity whilst discussing this

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<v Speaker 3>role and the story arc.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so funny to talk to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I always think of you being so much younger, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're having these broad adult conversations. Has it been

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to navigate your own journey of discovery, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>with finding yourself and having to live in the public eye.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, look, I'm kind of lucky enough that

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<v Speaker 3>I've done a lot of theater and things, which isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of major paparazzi life of people following my

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<v Speaker 3>every move. It's a much smaller community that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>follows me, which I've been really grateful for because it

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<v Speaker 3>has let me experience and find myself a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, fall on my face and make mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>and figure things out without a lot of public scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be really hard to be under

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<v Speaker 3>a complete microscope. But I think I've just been so

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<v Speaker 3>thrilled with how much community I've found from coming out

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<v Speaker 3>that it for me, and this is not everyone's experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very privileged in this, but I've had a really

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<v Speaker 3>really beautiful experience coming out and finding people like me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool to be able to talk to today

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<v Speaker 1>about this film, Jones Family, Christmas, but also some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that you've done in your life. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually went back the other night and rewatched the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>that they made, which was on SBS. I think about

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<v Speaker 1>how you got the role of Muriel in the Murial's

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<v Speaker 1>Wedding production. Have you ever gone back and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>watch that again.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually I haven't watched it back in full. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen little clips here and there. I think I probably

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<v Speaker 3>want to give it a bit more time before I go.

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<v Speaker 2>And watch it, but it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>My partner's brother said they had to watch it for

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<v Speaker 3>a media class in year eleven and they had to

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<v Speaker 3>study it, which I mean, is so weird for me,

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think it's so special and who gets

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<v Speaker 3>to have their first job filmed and like the process

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<v Speaker 3>of it filmed.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Tony Klept forever felt connected to that character,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember her talking about, you know that time

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<v Speaker 1>where you were taking on that role and what Muriel

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<v Speaker 1>had meant to her. Did you taking on that role

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<v Speaker 1>of Muriel's wedding have that same effect, like did that

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<v Speaker 1>change your life in some way? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's one of those jobs that will

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<v Speaker 3>always be the most special, even no matter what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that felt like a dream. The entire experience

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<v Speaker 3>was a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so hard. It's also one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>things I've ever done. But it just was.

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<v Speaker 3>Entirely mind blowing to be this young person creating a

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<v Speaker 3>new show with these incredible people, and having PJ. Hogan,

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<v Speaker 3>who wrote Muriel's Weddings it's his life like to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the room and giving his blessing, and Tony Kleet

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<v Speaker 3>coming to see the show and giving her blessing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I have another experience like it, But if

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I'm okay. I'm happy to die with having

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<v Speaker 3>that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Max, this is the beginning. It's the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're going to talk about so many

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<v Speaker 1>amazing roles and so many different jobs that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take on. I'm excited for you. I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching your mum's face for the opening night of

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<v Speaker 1>Jag at Little Pill. I know Natalie bassin Twad and

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<v Speaker 1>Nat Bass in the real world, and so I went

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<v Speaker 1>along to the opening night to watch her in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing your mum and dad's face while watching

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<v Speaker 1>you in that role, obviously watching you in that role

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and it was so amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>see parents watching their child, you know, do so well

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<v Speaker 1>in such a such a powerful role.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mom and dad are so supportive, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've always been like, you need to work hard, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're always going to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to bullshit you. Essentially if like we

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<v Speaker 2>don't think something's.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, or like you need to work hard, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've always had that attitude, so when they are proud,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like such an achievement because I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I did good.

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<v Speaker 2>I did good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that would be so amazing, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>get that reaction from your family like that. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>with jagg a Little Pill, which I just loved, was

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<v Speaker 1>that moment where you sung the Elanis Morrissett song You

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<v Speaker 1>Want to Know, And it was such a big moment

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<v Speaker 1>of the song that was singing and dancing and then

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of finish at the end and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a standing ovation that seemed to happen every time

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<v Speaker 1>you performed it. What was it like at that point

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<v Speaker 1>when the song would finish and you'd have to try

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<v Speaker 1>and catch your breath.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, to be honest, I was so out of

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<v Speaker 3>breath that I was like just trying to breathe and

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<v Speaker 3>not pass out, and then to feel the audience kind

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<v Speaker 3>of lift my energy back up was always so thrilling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but that was That's the hardest workout I've ever done ever.

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<v Speaker 1>The choreography, though, was so intense. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>the most amount of choreography I think your character has

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<v Speaker 1>in that just for that particular moment, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>so there was so much going on in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>There must have been so much going on in your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and there's no set corry there, at

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<v Speaker 3>least for my role. So it was very much like

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<v Speaker 3>let the music take you and throw your body around,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that's that's what would happen every night, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was cool because I felt like no

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<v Speaker 3>night was the same in terms of how I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be remiss of me not to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>this question because I am a big fan of your mum's.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a favorite character or a skit that

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<v Speaker 1>she was a part of while you were g up? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was something that you maybe not Kim because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would know that role, but one of the other smaller

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<v Speaker 1>roles that she had on, maybe Big Girl's blouse or

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<v Speaker 1>one of those shows I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what I grew up with my mum doing

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<v Speaker 3>voices throughout the house all the time. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite character of hers is called crabby because that's

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<v Speaker 3>what she would do as a when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>was like this crab voice and that was no one's

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<v Speaker 3>ever seen that character, but that was my favorite character.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, she I mean, there's just there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>things she's done on stage as well that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw her in Chicago about twenty times and was

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's she's such an icon, such a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she watching your career and watching how amazing these

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<v Speaker 1>roles that you've just recently been taking on and feeling

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<v Speaker 1>more inspired to come back and do more acting work.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of handed over the baton to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's having like vicariously living through my stress

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<v Speaker 3>and going, I don't need any more stress in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had enough stress and so it's my turn to

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<v Speaker 2>take on that. Yeah. No, but she's she's just great.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she helps me a lot, and I'm writing and

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<v Speaker 3>creating my own stuff and she's such a good soundboard.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, she'll always be part of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so it's so lovely to hear about that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between you and your mum. You know, I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been able to have this chat. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for people to watch this film. But something everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I ask everyone who joins this podcast is what

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<v Speaker 1>is something from behind the scenes, something that we did

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<v Speaker 1>not see that we won't see, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes secret of making Jones Family Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a stunning experience, and I think I

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<v Speaker 3>hope people see on screen the family dynamic, because we

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<v Speaker 3>really had that on set. We were such a family

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<v Speaker 3>and I know everyone says that and as.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliche, but we were.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love everyone who made this film, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hope people come and see it and just feel that

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas joy and that family connection and yeah, just have

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<v Speaker 3>a little hope and spirit for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Max. This is so cool. I can't believe that I

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to talk to you today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy and so grateful for your generosity. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a real buckep this thing for me to do. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>I've managed to keep my call and not sounded too

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<v Speaker 1>much of it too much like a crazy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>You kept a very call and I've had a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Good luck with everything in the future, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what you do next.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Okay, so here