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Speaker 1: Well Territory visitors are being encouraged to experience the Northern

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Speaker 1: waterfalls and a chance to immerse in a more authentic territory.

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Speaker 1: This new collaborative low season campaign between Tourism and Tea, Tourism,

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Speaker 1: Central Australia, Tourism, Top End and NT major Events company

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Speaker 1: encourages visitors to explore the Northern Territory's best kept season.

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Speaker 1: It runs from the second of September to the thirtieth

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Speaker 1: of November and really highlights the value of traveling during

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Speaker 1: the low season, including fewer crowds, more deals and dramatic

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Speaker 1: seasonal experiences. Now joining us on the line is Daniel Rochford,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Tourism Central Australia.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Daniel, Morning Katie, and good morning Tea listeners.

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Speaker 1: Daniel tell us a little bit more about this campaign

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Speaker 1: and the aim of really trying to get people here

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Speaker 1: in what we would generally describe as I guess our low.

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Speaker 2: Season absolutely and so what we're trying to do here

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Speaker 2: is too really strengthen our shoulder and low seasons across

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Speaker 2: the territory. From from Darwin to culgra to ensure that

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Speaker 2: visitors who might naturally not think about the Northern Territory

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Speaker 2: in that period of time, they might look elsewhere. But

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Speaker 2: you know, there are some great benefits of coming to

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory over our shoulder and low seasons, and

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Speaker 2: you just enunciated them. The fact that you won't see

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Speaker 2: as many crowds, so you know you're likely to be

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Speaker 2: standing in front of Laru with far less people, you know,

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Speaker 2: experiencing our water holes. You know, the we don't get

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Speaker 2: know it's something that's unique and different. And you know,

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Speaker 2: were wanting to put a call out to the Northern

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Speaker 2: of the of the of the Northern Territory and to

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Speaker 2: start sharing that with our visitors. To be able to

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Speaker 2: I guess, to amplify all the nooks and crannies like

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Speaker 2: we often see in our tourism advertising, the big iconic

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Speaker 1: Well, there's so many wonderful places to visit and I

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Speaker 1: guess you know, we know it gets hot, there's no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly for Central Australia. You know, our water

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Speaker 2: that's something that we can do because it's at nighttime,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Now, I mean more broadly, how are

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Speaker 1: things going in Alice Springs at the moment? Daniel? I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly turning the corner, Katie, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: Do you know if it was like it was, there

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Speaker 1: Well, one area that we do seem to be going

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Speaker 2: We're talking thousands to put an no vacancy sign across

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Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody wants to get there for that milestone.

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Speaker 2: It's a very special event. And we're certainly hearing reports

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Speaker 1: Now, before I let you go, Daniel, I know that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll all find out on Friday. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do you reckon mayor wise? Do you think it's looking

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Speaker 1: as though those it sort of seems like the preferences

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Speaker 1: are going to have a huge part to play when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the position of me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And similar to the Darwin Merrill

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Speaker 2: race as well. You know, we least Marie Bourgoin's just

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Speaker 2: below Asta and Ellie. I suspect her preferences will elect Ellie.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I could be wrong on those things.

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Speaker 2: But that's you know, the community, general community sentiment. But

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Speaker 2: it was a very strong turnout for asta Hill. I

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Speaker 2: stood on the early voting center for two weeks and

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Speaker 2: you know, people were coming up and grabbing astors, how

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Speaker 2: to vote card and abounding into the early voting center.

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Speaker 2: So she had a lot of strong political will there

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Speaker 2: behind her. A lot of people were very supportive of

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Speaker 2: Eli as well. You know, his experience and long term

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Speaker 2: tenure on the Alice Springstown Council was not unnoted. So

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Speaker 2: it will go down to the wire. I suspect it

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Speaker 2: will only be a few It will be a close election,

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Speaker 2: but we're kind of used to close elections in Alice Springstown.

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Speaker 2: Matt Patterson only won by two votes last elections.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's engages too, didn't it.

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Speaker 2: And we've got twenty five council candidates buying for eight positions. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's been a robust election. Let's say it has been.

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Speaker 1: I bet it has been well. Daniel Rochford always good

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you. We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, Thank you,