1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Are you one of the many podcast listeners who is 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: constantly feeling annoyed at yourself for not following through with 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: positive lifestyle changes? Are you constantly in a cycle of 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: being good or on track or completely off the rails. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Do you know you need to change, but routinely find 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: that it's too hard. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Don't worry. You are certainly not alone. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: And on today's episode of The Nutrition Couch, we discuss 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: why change is so very hard and the simple steps 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: to take control and self coach yourself to success. Hi, 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm Cusyburrow and Ale and Wood, and together we bring 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps you 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: up to date with everything you need to know in 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the world of nutrition, as well as coaching yourself to success. 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: We have some new research that looks at the link 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: between our diet and pain. We have a new snack 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: bar that you're going to love, and our listener question 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: is all about weekend eating. But I will also launch 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: in today to say that this is the fourth home 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: we are attempting to record our podcast in video format. 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: How's that going? Then? 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: It's not going so well. We're not very good at tech. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: We might be good at the size well, high nutrition, 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: but tech is certainly not our strong point. 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: So it's been a testing time in the world of 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: the Nutritian Couch because this is the fourth time we've 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: tried to record, and we've had some shocking attempts. Our 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: videos haven't worked when blew up an iPhone. We've had 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: several levels of consulting not to do it. And when 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: we are on YouTube stars LeAnn, we will be grateful 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: for this opportunity. We'll be happy, we'll be laughing about this. 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: So I just want you to hang in there, have 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: a sauna chill off. 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: It's going to be all worth it. 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: You know, it's going to be Okay, we'll see if 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: anybody watch is on YouTube because somebody said me a 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: DM and said, oh, you can't go to YouTube. 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: What am I going to do without the podcast? 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: And I said, oh, it'll still be on podcasts and 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: she's like, oh, thank goodness. I think she thought we 41 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: were moving entirely to YouTube. 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, I think young people are the 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: YouTube audience. Yeah, we're just getting a little bit older. 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: But anyway, we're going to give it a red hot 45 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: go and it is going to be all worth it, 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: So don't you worry all right. What I wanted to 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: talk about was something that comes up all the time 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: with clients, and I think you'll have a lot to 49 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: add your perspective on it. But certainly, I think the 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: first part of self coaching yourself to success when it 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: comes to change is probably the acknowledgement that change is hard. 52 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, change if you had no external influences on 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: your life. So, for example, if you didn't have to 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: go to work, you didn't have to cook and prepare 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: food for other people, You had all the money in 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: the world, you didn't have to commute in terrible traffic, 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: you didn't have a boss who makes you stay late 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: at work. You only had to think about yourself. It 59 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: would be easy to make positive lifestyle changes. You could 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: spend hours cooking, preparing food, shopping. You could exercise as 61 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: much as you want, and that's often why on holidays 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: it can actually be easier to control your weight because 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: your time is your own. 64 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: And people are shocked by that, but I'm like, no, 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: you know. 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: That often the issue is not that we don't know 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: what we should be doing. We all know that we 68 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: should be eating more vegetables, we shouldn't be eating as 69 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: much rubbish. We should be exercising more. The complexity comes 70 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: because we live in a very complicated life where many 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: people are juggling two or three jobs. You know, they're 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: doing their own job. Some people are needing to work 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: two jobs because currently economically things are so tight. Then 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: you're looking after parents or children or other loved ones 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and a home and a social life. So the issue 76 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: is not your week. The issue is that it is very, 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: very difficult. So I think the first hurdle in coaching 78 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: yourself to success and making positive changes. 79 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: That last is. 80 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: An acknowledgment that it won't be easy, because if it 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: was easy, we would all do it. 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: Now. 83 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: There's a handful of people, sure who metabolically blessed, but 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: in general all of us have to work pretty hard. 85 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing. You have to acknowledge that 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: it's not going to be easy. And human beings. 87 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: As a species don't like change. Humans do what is easy. 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: They don't do what is right. Otherwise a lot of 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: us wouldn't be in a lot of trouble in our lives. 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: We do what is easy, what is easily land is 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: to eat crap and not move. So again, an acknowledgement 92 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: that you're not weak, you are human, and we will 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: always do that. So I think that's the first thing 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: you have to go into any lifestyle change, whether it's 95 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: starting a new exercise program, whether it's starting a new 96 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: diet regime, whether it's committing to weight loss. You've got 97 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: to give yourself the space and time to do it. 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: But what happens I noticed with that group of my clients, 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and I guess I'd group into two groups. I've got 100 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: clients who are when they come to see me, they're 101 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: ready to go. They've already started with their positive changes. 102 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: They just want to be told what to do and when, 103 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it works and they're on 104 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: their way. And that's probably I would say sixty seventy 105 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: percent of my clients, because I do we do attract 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: a motivated group of people because it's a financial commitment, 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: and you know, we really invest heavily in our clients. 108 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: That's our style of nutrition coaching. It's not just one 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: off appointments every month. That's you know, every single day 110 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: leaning in and let's get this sort of for good 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: and that's what works. But then I certainly have a 112 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: ten to twenty maybe thirty percent group who are I 113 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: don't want to say my winges, but it's always hard, 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's always you know, can't I eat whatever 115 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: I want? Why can't I have this product? You know, 116 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm finding this really difficult. I'm hungry all the time. 117 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: And there's a real focus on the negative, and of 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: course that what you think about and believe continues. So 119 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: rather than that early acceptance that it will be tricky, 120 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: there's a resentment from the start. So we do try 121 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: and work through that. But I think for anyone listening 122 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: who perhaps hasn't committed to seeing a dietician or can't 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: always trying to do it themselves, going in with that 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: understanding that it will be tricky, you will feel it 125 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: will be difficult and it will be uncomfortable. But if 126 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: you can just get through those first hurdles and the 127 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: first few clunky weeks, all of a sudden, like so 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: many things, driving a manual car, having a new baby, 129 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: it will click and have that expectation. And I think 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: the other key thing in terms of self coaching yourself 131 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: to success is that it's about small wins along the way. 132 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: It's not perfection, because I'll have people who will give 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: me their history. They might have been away for the 134 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: weekend or on a work trip, and they will always 135 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: target the thing that they did wrong, that they didn't 136 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: think was the right thing to do. And I'll say 137 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: to them, and I said it just last night's your 138 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: client of mine. Look how far you've come. Yes, there 139 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: are things that we still need to work on, but 140 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: look how much better you were doing from when you started. 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: And this is the long term progression. It's about improving 142 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: over time. And indeed, we have a big listenership on 143 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch who will direct messages on Instagram and 144 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: say I've lost twelve kilos over the program over the 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: last three years by these small changes. So I think, 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: particularly at this time of year, when we are launching 147 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: into the Christmas holiday season, party season, where there's a 148 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: lot of extra food around, it's going to almost be 149 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: impossible to have perfection. You are going to have meals out, 150 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: you are going to have too many. But if you 151 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: can just get more better decisions than poor ones, and 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: if you can just focus on small winds and building, 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: you will still be even a few killos later, or 154 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: at least wait. 155 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Neutral come the end of the year. 156 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Then if you continue with that attitude of this is 157 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: too hard, it's not fair. I want to be able 158 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: to eat what I want. You know, it's always hard 159 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: for me. I'm hungry all the time. And it's a 160 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: real shift in mindset. And I find even with my 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: tricky clients, eventually they do sort of acknowledge that and 162 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: they click over. But it can take a little bit 163 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: of time. So if you're one of the many listeners 164 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: who are thinking, oh, I really need to lose that 165 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: five or ten kilos and I just can't do it, 166 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: what is the difference. The difference with clients we see 167 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: is we're coaching them through that daily or you know, 168 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: you can do it yourself as well, but they're too 169 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: really guiding principles. It won't be easy and it will 170 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: be very uncomfortable for a period, and then it's about 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: a level of acceptance and just small winds and building 172 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: over time. Are some simple strategies to improve your relationship 173 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: with food and diets and even exercise over time. 174 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: You know one hundred percent agree. 175 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: And I had, like you, a perfect example of a 176 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: client who felt like she was struggling, but the reality, 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: like you said, was that she's done really amazingly and 178 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: she's done a really great job. And overall I think 179 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: she's down eight nine kilos. But she's been fairly stable 180 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: for the last i'd say a few months because just 181 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: so much has come up with life, the kids, the work, 182 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: multiple trips away, lots of social things, that kind of thing. 183 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: But she's actually been able to maintain. And so we 184 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: really talked about that, Like you said, acknowledging that it 185 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: is hard, but calling it for what it is, like, 186 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: this is hard, not I can't do it or I'm failing. 187 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: This is hard. 188 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: Well, what's the next step I can take? And sometimes 189 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: just that acknowledgment that the process is hard is just 190 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: what clients need to actually take that next step because 191 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: such is life like, life is hard. And we had 192 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: this discussion with her. I said, it was hard when 193 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: you were in a body that was ten kilos more. 194 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: It's hard now because you feel like you're doing the work. 195 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: It's not quite coming off, but it's still hard to maintain. 196 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: And what's even harder is. 197 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: Going back and reputting on that ten kilos, going back 198 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: to where you were. So life is always hard. And 199 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 4: then when I jumped on a coaching call with her. 200 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: This morning, I was in my gym clothes, I was 201 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: all sweaty. I did a really difficult work out at 202 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: the gym, and I said to her, I've been training 203 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: at what I would consider a high intensity for the 204 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: better part of a decade or two. And I said 205 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: that I still find exercise and nutrition challenging. It's not 206 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: that it gets any easier over time, you just adapt 207 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: to a different level of hard And she said that 208 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: was a really helpful perspective for her because she just 209 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: always thought that someday it would get easy and it 210 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: would just flow like that. 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: And I said, that's just not life. 212 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: Like, just when you think you're getting the hang of it, 213 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: something pops up and you know, something else becomes harder. 214 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: That is just life. 215 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: So just accepting that things are difficult, some more so 216 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: than others. Some people, sure, they find it really easier 217 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: the majority of us to lose or maintain our weight. 218 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: There is an element or a level of hardness to that. 219 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 4: And I think that acceptance is really important. 220 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: But rather than. 221 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: Saying it's hard, I can't do it, we shift that 222 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: self talk and make that into that more positive, neutrible. 223 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: Your self talk. 224 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: So it's this is difficult right now, what's the next 225 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: step I can take? Or this is difficult right now? 226 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: How can I make it this little bit easier on myself, 227 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: whether that's planning ahead with your nutrition, whether that's changing 228 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: a dinner and drinks with your girlfriends to a morning 229 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: walk and a coffee so you can sort of get 230 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: the exercise in still catch up, but also like the 231 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: calorie load a lot if you've already had a heavier week. 232 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: So shifting that self talk and zooming out in terms 233 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: of the perspective, like I said to her, you've already 234 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: down eight nine killers. We're only a feel away from 235 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: your goal. Zoom out and have a look at how 236 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: far you've come, and you know, will this actually matter 237 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: in a year's time. Yes, it's hard now, but as 238 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: I said, such as life, things will be difficult, how 239 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: can we make it that slight bit easier, or how 240 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: can we just push through this difficult period in order 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: to get to a time where it's perhaps not as busy. 242 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: It's not coming into school holidays, we have a little 243 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: bit more flexibility with our schedule, So just kind of 244 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: taking a step back and seeing how far we've come 245 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: and seeing will it you know, get a little bit 246 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: easier from a timing perspective or a flexibility later on. 247 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: And the last thing I think that's really important when 248 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: we talk about self coaching is to focus on the controllables. 249 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: Like I had another client who went away for like 250 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: a big girl's weekend and she's like, I'm so stressed. 251 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: There's going to be alcohol. 252 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: All of the meals are provided, and I said, it's okay, 253 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: Like in life we get to celebrate, Like food can 254 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: be a celebration. It's not just calories and calories out. 255 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: We can enjoy it. 256 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: We can go away with our girlfriends, we can have 257 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: an extra drink or two. But what I said to 258 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: her is focus on what you can control. And that 259 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: is so important because I remember years ago I had 260 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 4: a conversation with a client and she was like, look, 261 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: we ended up at this pub thing and I had 262 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: to have this burger and then I was really hungry, 263 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: so I had to eat the chips. And when we 264 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: broke that down, like, focus on what you can control, 265 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 4: and of course she had a beer as well. There 266 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: was like eighteen different things that were within her control 267 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: that in the moment, it just all felt too hard, 268 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: all felt too overwhelmeding she had to have the burger, 269 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: she had to have the chips, she had. 270 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: To have the beer. 271 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: But when we broke it down, she was like, well, 272 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: I could have us and seeing at the kitchen, could 273 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: do you know chicken breast not crumbed chicken. I could 274 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: have said, can you give me a half service of chips. 275 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: I could have taken the bun off the burger. I 276 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 4: could have had a water or a diet coke instead 277 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: of a beer. Like there were so many options within 278 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: that situation that because all she was focusing on is 279 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: this is hard, she wasn't able to see them. So 280 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: my number one tip for people who are really struggling 281 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: with the self coaching is to focus on what you 282 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 4: can control, Because you might not be able to control 283 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: the food that's available or the restaurant that you're going to, 284 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: but you can control your portion. You can control whether 285 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: or not you eat something before you go so you're 286 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: not starving when you get there. You can control leaning 287 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: up the beginning of the week in order to have 288 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: a heavier meal or two on the weekend. There's often 289 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: so many things that are within our control, but when 290 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: we're stuck in that victim mentality, this is hard, this 291 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: is unfair, it's you know, why is it easy for 292 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: everyone else and not me? That's where it really does 293 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: become ten times harder because it's often like we're in 294 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: a funk and we just can't get out of it. 295 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: So focus on those things that you can control and 296 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: control your self. Talk and knowledge that things are hard, 297 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: but you often have a lot of choices within that 298 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: hard moment. I think are really the keys to coaching 299 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: yourself to success. 300 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: True, And just before we wrap up and I hand 301 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: over to you to talk pain and food, which is 302 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: another really important topic for people who deal with chronic pain. 303 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I actually also wanted to talk about it in terms 304 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: of the specificity of client presentations. So one of the 305 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: common things with clients who are struggling, particularly in the 306 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: early stages of change, is they will talk about feeling 307 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: restricted because they're used to going and getting a banana 308 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: bread at lunch, or they're used to having an extra 309 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: coffee and a treat in the afternoon. So they sort 310 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: of even start feeling deprived because it's such a big change. 311 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: And so what I would say, there's two things going on. 312 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: The first is there's nothing wrong with looking forward to 313 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: something more indulgent food wise, but in my clinical experience, 314 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: you better should do it late in after dinner, because 315 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: once you sort of break the seal and start. 316 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: Eating rubbish through the day, it's very hard to stop. 317 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: But something else to keep in mind is it is 318 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: profound entitlement that informs this week and eat what we 319 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: want when we want. And I think that it's okay 320 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: to say that because I think there's a lot of 321 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: people who have a belief that we should be able 322 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: to eat whatever we want, and it's not fair that 323 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: some people are able to do it and not others. 324 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: And I first of all call bs that people can 325 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: do it. I think that there is a perception they're 326 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: doing it, and we really actually don't know what they're doing. 327 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: And also many of them will not be so healthy, 328 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: particularly as they get older. Some people may be off 329 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: to do it when they're younger and burning a lot 330 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,479 Speaker 1: of calories, or you know, some people are on medications 331 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: that burn more calories, et cetera, et cetera, but most 332 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: people can't. And I want to also use the words 333 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: should not, like these are ultra processed foods that we 334 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be having. So I think it's okay sometimes to 335 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: say you're eating too much rubbish and you kind of 336 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: need to detox a little bit from it. Because I 337 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: think we covered this a couple of episodes ago. People 338 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: are having multiple serves of discretionary food per day. This 339 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: is what we're getting sick, this is why we're getting fat, 340 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: this is why we're getting diabetes. 341 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: We eat too much crap. 342 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: So I think there is also a realization that sometimes 343 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: you have to be told no, and that's okay. It's 344 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: not going back to childhood where you're told know for 345 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: everything if it's that trigger. But ultimately, to be a 346 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: healthy adult, we can't eat those kinds of foods multiple 347 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: times a day at most one hundred maybe chundred calories worth, 348 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: which most people enjoy at dinner, whether it's a glass 349 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: of wine some chocolate after dinner, and you and I 350 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: both will talk about including those foods regularly in someone's plan. 351 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: But our society is such that we're so entitled and 352 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: think we should be able to have whatever we want 353 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: when we want, and we've got into habits of doing 354 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: it that sometimes our job is to call that out 355 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: and say you're just eating too much crap and being 356 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: actually a little bit honest with yourself, So don't tell 357 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: me at the end you feel deprived because you didn't 358 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: have your daily pastry, extra coffee and whatever else, because 359 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: before you were basically eating a little bit too much. 360 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: So I would urge listeners, without being disrespectful, to be 361 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: actually able to have an honest conversation with yourself and say, 362 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: am I being a bit entitled here and eating a 363 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: little bit too much rubbish? 364 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: And that does happen quite often. 365 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, just a few little things to ponder, So 366 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: we'll see if we get any feedback on that. 367 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: The age of entitlement, Leanne, what do you think? 368 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: All right? 369 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, moving on from insight on it to our next section, 370 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: which is on diet and pain. 371 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: And we know that. 372 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: There are certainly will probably quite a few listeners out 373 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: there who live with chronic pain. And certainly when I 374 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: used to work at the hospital, I worked in one 375 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: of the musculis scaladi of clinics next to the physios 376 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: and saw a lot of chronic knee and chronic back 377 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: pain and it's absolutely debilitating. 378 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: So whenever we. 379 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: Do see some new research in this area, it is 380 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: really nice because you know, most people don't want to 381 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: take painkillers for the rest of their life. Most people 382 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: want to be able to walk up a set of 383 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: stairs or go for a big long walk without having 384 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: that pain. And certainly we do know that eating well 385 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: can influence your weight to you know, most people who 386 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: eat well eat in a calorie deficit will lose weight. 387 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: But what this new research is showing is that it 388 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: potentially also affects chronic pain. So this is very exciting. 389 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: It's a new study. It came from the University of 390 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: South Australia and what research is investigated was whether improving 391 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: the diet quality overall through a weight loss program, so 392 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: it was actually a weight loss program actually reduced chronic 393 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: muscular skelet or pain. But they also wanted to know 394 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: that if losing weight explained any link between diet and pain, 395 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 4: So they analyzed data from just over one hundred Australian 396 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: odals who were overweight or obese, and they then completed 397 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: a three month dietary intervention where their energy intake was 398 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: restricted by thirty percent. So this is what I would 399 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: say is a very moderate deficit. Most of the time 400 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: I start my clients off in about a twenty percent deficit. 401 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: Thirty percents that next step up, so that I would 402 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: say would be just that little bit harder to stick to. 403 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 4: Thirty percent is quite moderate. So in addition to doing 404 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: the dietary intervention, they also measure the presence of what 405 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: they call the chronic muscular skeleid L pain score, pain severity, 406 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 4: and the quality of life that the person was reporting 407 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: related to the pain. And then they also took measurements 408 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: around weight waste, their conference and body fat percentage as well. 409 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: So on average, don't forget, these participants were following a 410 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: calorie restricted diet by about thirty percent, so you would 411 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: expect and hope some weight loss. So on average the 412 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: participants lost an average of seven kilos. But the most 413 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: important part was that pain relief was explained more by 414 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: the quality of the diet more so than just the kilos. 415 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: That they lost. 416 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: So it's really I guess, hopeful findings for people living 417 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: with chronic pain or even people living who really do 418 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: struggle to loose the weight, because thirty percent is I 419 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: would say, it's kind of hard called that thirty forty 420 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: percent is of large calorie restriction, you will feel hungry 421 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: for elements of the date it's an uncomfortable feeling hunger, 422 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 4: and so it is hard for some people to stick to. 423 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 4: So just knowing that the diet quality overall so healthy, 424 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: eating not necessarily eating in a calorie deficit may actually 425 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: be helpful for people living with chronic pain. 426 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: There were a few limitations in the study. 427 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: There was no control group, and when we see a good, 428 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: well rounded study, we do hope to see a control group. 429 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 4: And obviously the participants were on a form of a 430 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: calorie restricted diet, so it is I guess harder to 431 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: rule out any kind of policy or effects over time 432 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: without that control group as well. But I think you know, 433 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: bottom line is it's an interesting study. It shows that 434 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: improving the food choices, it's not just about calories. It's 435 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: not about what goes in and what comes out. It's 436 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: about better choices. It's about eating more whole foods, eating 437 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: more fiber, the nutrient rich quality of a food matters, 438 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: eating fewer ultra processed foods, drinking less alcohol, because that's. 439 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: The other thing. 440 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: The study didn't mention anything about with chronic pain, one 441 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: would think of inflammation, so they didn't measure anything like inflammation, molecules, CRP, anything, 442 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: like that. So if they were to repeat the study, 443 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: I would like to see a control group, and I 444 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: would like to see some of those pain and inflammation 445 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: parameters actually measured, because I would think that the inflammation 446 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: and that reduction through better diet quality, hopefully that had 447 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: an impact on chronic pain as well. That would be 448 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: my thinking, but unfortunately the study didn't actually cover it 449 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: this time. But it is I guess, really cool and 450 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: exciting to know that a quality diet changes may potentially 451 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: help people with these chronic pain issues. 452 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: True, and I think a lot of the fasting research 453 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: had been done as well in some of those inflammatory 454 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: markers like cider clients, to show now that was up 455 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: to twenty five percent reductions or even more on things 456 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: like the five to two diet. So how I like 457 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: to frame it for everyday people, is having even a 458 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: couple of lighter. 459 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Days a week will help. You know, we don't. 460 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Expect you to eat ony twelve hundred calories seven days 461 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: like that's not healthy, even though it might benefit weight 462 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: loss in the short term, but you might find that, 463 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, once a week, just having a lighter meal 464 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: or having a longer fast is enough to cut back 465 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: those calories by twenty thirty percent without feeling like you're 466 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: on an overly restricted diet and still yielding those benefits. 467 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: So I think certainly there's a lot to be said 468 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: for even small amounts of weight loss when it comes 469 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: to pain and inflammatory responses. And yeah, adjusting the week 470 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: so you're not having the same calorie load every single 471 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: day and having a couple of lighter days is an 472 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: easy way to do it in my experience. Now, speaking 473 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: of Whole Foods, you sent me a Whole Food stack bar. Now, 474 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we included a fib of 475 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: rich bar that we got a lot of positive response 476 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: from on the body. Everyone loves a snack bar, don't they, 477 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: So we found another one. Now, you found this in supermarket. 478 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to let you take us through it because 479 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: your baby. But I think it's been around for a while, 480 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong. This brand, it's got certainly five 481 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: hell stars. So I haven't eaten it, and have you 482 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: tried it. 483 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: I think that the brand it's nice and natural, So 484 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: the brand certainly has been around for a while. But 485 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: I only saw this in the shops about a month ago. 486 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: When I sent it to you. So I feel like 487 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: it's newish, but I could be wrong. 488 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Maybe the flavor is new, they had a whole seat. 489 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a new variant. 490 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: Potentially. 491 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we're recording, they are currently on sale 492 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: at Wolworst. Obviously we do record in a little bit 493 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: in advance just to get it to our editors, etc. 494 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: So they're thirty percent of the moment retailing for four 495 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 4: fifty five for a box of five, but they currently 496 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: retail for six fifty so just over about a dollar 497 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: a bar, which when you think about it, if you 498 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: were to go and buy like a protein bar at 499 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: a service station, you're probably paying four or five six 500 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: dollars per bar. And same deal if you were to 501 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: go myself am a supper for a takeaway coffee at 502 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 4: a coffee shop. I get soy milk, so I routinely 503 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: will easily pay six seven dollars for one. 504 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: So how much is a drive through Starbucks? And that's 505 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: seven dollars. 506 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: Drive through Starbus three seven eight dollars one percent. Yep, 507 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: we've talked about my sneaky Starbucks habits. So these, in 508 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, are a little bit more 509 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: affordable given that they're only about a dollar a bar, 510 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: and they've got quite a good ingredient list. They have 511 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: a five star Hells rating on the front. We know 512 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: that that can sometimes have its limitations, so we like 513 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 4: to as dietitians, read the ingredient list, read the nutrition profile, 514 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: and then make a more informed decision. But basically, it's 515 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: saying that it has five stars compared to the other 516 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: generic musley bars within that category, so it is certainly 517 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: a better choice when it comes to fat, sugar, salt, 518 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: fiber than some of the other bars in the category. 519 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: That's essentially what the five star Hell's rating means. So 520 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: when we look at the ingredient list, the first ingredient 521 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: is sunflower seeds, which it's so rare to see a 522 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: seed as a first ingredient, and we love that because 523 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 4: it's healthy fats, it's fiber. The sunflower seeds up forty 524 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: four percent of the bar, followed by glucose syrup. So 525 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: sugar is the second ingredient, and that would be I 526 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: would naturally expect sugar to be ingredient number one, two, 527 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: or three when it comes to something like in musli bar. Now, 528 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: the next ingredient is interesting because it's soy protein crisps, 529 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: and that's what is getting the added protein in the bar. 530 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: Then you've got inulin, which is adding as a prebotic 531 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: type fiber. Next you've got pumpkin seeds at ten percent, 532 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 4: which is great. We've got dried cranberry pieces at seven percent, 533 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of natural flavor sim glycerine and acidity regulator, 534 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 4: a little bit of sunflow oil, and a little bit 535 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: of salt. So I would say that it is probably 536 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: an ultra between a process product and an ultra processed product. Well, 537 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 4: it's got the addition of soy protein crists, which are, 538 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 4: let's be honest, ultra processed, and inulin isn't something that 539 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: you'd naturally find in your pantry at home, but they 540 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: are certainly a much better choice than any other kind 541 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: of protein bar on the market. And then per serving, 542 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: so the bars are thirty grams each per serving just 543 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 4: shive six hundred killosules six point eight grams of protein 544 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: in the bar, which is far more than if you 545 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: were to pick up like a standard musli bar or 546 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: something like. That's nearly seven grams of protein, which I 547 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 4: think is really strong, eight point three grams of fat 548 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: with only point nine of that being saturated fat, so 549 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: a really good fat profile. Eight grams of carbohydrate, which 550 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: for a musleibar is quite low because it has a 551 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: really strong seed presence within that bar, three point five 552 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 4: grams of sugar, which is actually quite low when you 553 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: think about it for the whole bar, even though it 554 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: added sugar was the second ingredient. Four point three grams 555 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: of dietary fiber, which is really strong, and fifty milligrams 556 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: of sodium, which is quite low, which you would expect 557 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: in a bar. 558 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: So overall, I really like them. I've been using them 559 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: in my client meal plans. 560 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: I think that they're a great little thing to travel with, 561 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: having your handbag, just you know, having your desk at work. 562 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: I quite like them. 563 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 4: Would you make a cleaner bar in your kitchen at home, Yes, 564 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: if you're busy, if you time, Paul, you want a 565 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: better option in the shops, these are certainly one of them, 566 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 4: and they're quite tasty too. 567 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: I've tried them. I quite like them. 568 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: I agree. 569 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: I think that for that amount of protein, it's a 570 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: very nice calorie load, because the issue with so many 571 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: bars is that the protein bars are upwards of two 572 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: hundred calories one eighty to two hundred in a very 573 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: small volume of food, so you kind of eat it 574 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: in two or three bytes and you've had quite a 575 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: significant number of calories and in. 576 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: Some cases fat as well. So yeah, I really like them. 577 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: I know they've always had a really clean ingredient list. 578 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: I think that the seeds add so many good fats. 579 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, these are the fats that we don't get 580 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: from very many other foods, those long chain plant based fats, 581 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: So seeds in our diet. 582 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: And a control portion are good. I think. 583 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: You know, I'd team it with say maybe some baby 584 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: belled cheese or some roasted broad beans is an afternoon snack, 585 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: But I do like that idea of just keeping it 586 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: in the bag for those kind of emergencies as well, 587 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: or in the car. So if you do have that 588 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: late afternoon munchies and you're like, oh, I haven't got 589 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: time to go home and do yogurt or cheese and crackers, 590 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: and you grab that in a coffee or grab that on. 591 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: Its own, it's going to tide you over. So yeah, 592 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan as well. 593 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, they're a New Zealand company, so I guess 594 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: they're almost astrayan, aren't they Like it's a pretty group 595 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: out them as house and I think, yeah, in terms 596 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: of the seated type bars out there, they're among one 597 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: of the better options and certainly very affordable. So yeah, 598 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: it comes up for me too, So we probably should 599 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: add that to our product. 600 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: Guidel. 601 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: I just thinking I'll just add that a lot of 602 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 4: I've had a few, I guess like dms lately over Instagram, 603 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: and a lot of people are using this like Yuka app, 604 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: which like rates the foods and stuff and if any 605 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: food has got say like an emulsifier or an adit evevate. 606 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: It's like automatically quote unquote bad for you, and people 607 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: will probably reach out and say the words, oh, this 608 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: has an emulsifier in it. In my personal opinion, I 609 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 4: don't think emulsifiers are as bad as what social media 610 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: makes them out to be. I wouldn't be riding these 611 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: bars in my client's meal plans every single day. I'd 612 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 4: be saying that this is something to put in your 613 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: handbag when you're traveling, something to have in the snack 614 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: bag if your kids stop, a game runs late and 615 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: you can't get home for lunch and you're starving. You 616 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: pull this out of your handbag, and given that, I 617 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: would expect this to float around in my client's handbag 618 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: or desk, school, travel bag for probably a good few weeks, 619 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: if not months, and still you okay to consume two 620 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 4: three months later. It has to have some form of 621 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: an emulsifier or additive in there to make that okay. 622 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: If it didn't, it would be like moldy in less 623 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: than a week. So emulsifiers and additives are not like 624 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 4: it's not as easy. It's not black and white. Nutrition 625 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: science is not black and white. So when people send 626 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: me products and they're like, is this good or is 627 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: this bad? There's too many nuances around this. And I'll 628 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 4: stop here, Susie, because I could talk for hours about 629 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 4: this and it really frustrates me. If you want to 630 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: have the bar, have the bar, because it's probably a 631 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 4: better choice. If you don't, don't eat it and eat 632 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: your clean food, and that's cool. But this is an 633 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: option for women who get caught out, get busy, need 634 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: to take something with them traveling, and if it didn't 635 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: have a few additives and an emulsifier in there, it 636 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: would go off. That's the reality of it. So if 637 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: you want to carry your banana, let that squish around 638 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: in your bag three days, pull it out and mushy 639 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: at your work meeting on Thursday. Eat that, you be 640 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: my guest. But I personally would rather give my client 641 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: a bar with a small additive and a smaller emulsifier, 642 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 4: knowing that they're not going to eat that three times 643 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: a day, every single day. But it's still a better 644 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: choice compared to if they got caught out, they'd had 645 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: the sausages or the hot dog at the soccer game, 646 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: or they'd eat the croissants on the work table. So 647 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: I just think we need to take social media with 648 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: a grain of salt. Sometimes it frustrates me. I'll get 649 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: off my high offs now, Susie. But I just I 650 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 4: think that's a little bit of food for thought for 651 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: our listeners out there who are trying to find one 652 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: hundred percent clean food all of the time. I get it, 653 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 4: you're just doing your best, but the reality is that 654 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: a little bit of additives and a little bit of 655 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: a multipliers and preservatives in some food may not be 656 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: a bad option. 657 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: I got to just tread so carefully here. She's prickly 658 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: today people, all right, So, first of all. I call 659 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: it convenient diet theories for you. 660 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: So people cherry pick the dietary information that suits them 661 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: at the time, but then forget it all when they're 662 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: at the pub on a Friday and ordering plates of 663 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: deep fried wedges and ari and Chenie balls and having 664 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: twelve glasses of wine. So that's how I like to 665 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: frame it. But what I think we can take from 666 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: this leanne is why don't we have a segment in 667 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: an upcoming episode about nutrition rants so things that drive 668 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: us crazy? And then I feel like it would be 669 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: like a form of therapy for you and you can 670 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: get it all off your chest and maybe entertaining for 671 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: our listeners. 672 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: So should we do that. 673 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: With that potentially? Yeah, maybe that's a good idea. 674 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: And I'm strongly encouraging you to go and have a 675 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: sooner after this potty record. I feel like it'll do 676 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: the world of good. All right, onto the last segment, 677 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: which is very positive. We've had a listener request on 678 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: our Instagram, so send all your requests through on the 679 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch Instagram page. We get all of our product 680 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: requests generally and listener questions from them, and the question is, 681 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: how can I have some fun weekend food that I 682 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: can make at home, and I thought there's a lot 683 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: of this going on in the supermarket. What do they 684 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: call it? Fake away? There's a lot of headlines on 685 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: fake away at the moment, and I think it's good 686 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: because we've spoken about this before that I just find 687 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,239 Speaker 1: takeaway so ridiculously overpriced now and certainly not worth it. 688 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: The quality is just often not there. 689 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: And so there's just so many things in the supermarket 690 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: you can make that taste better than take away that 691 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: is still giving you all the deliciousness of fast food. 692 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: And certainly when you and I get together, we are 693 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: very happy with a pre made You've got a pizza 694 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: up and so sometimes you make them. But I'm very 695 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: happy with a good old Cole's truffled pizza, like you know, 696 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: very happy. So we certainly do that when we get together. 697 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: But a couple off the top of my head, and 698 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got some as well. I think homemade 699 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: burgers are so easy to do and you can make 700 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: them so healthy. So the peppercorn lean beef burger is 701 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: the lean one, but there's quite a few macro I've 702 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: got a chicken one as well, that's less than ten 703 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: percent fat grilled have a new range. But are they 704 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: leave that's not lean? 705 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: I had look, but. 706 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: Aren't we talking about fun dinner options? 707 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: Could be fun lean? You said funn lean? You said, 708 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: I said fun and lean. Well, girl, do you have it? 709 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: It is higher, but yeah you can. 710 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I'd keep away then from the your Porto Perry Perry 711 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: chicken seasoning, which has got more salt in it than 712 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: you need an entire day. So don't grab that from 713 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: the seasoning section. But yeah, you're right, there is those, 714 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: And I think there's so many good bread rolls. 715 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: You know. 716 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: You can get the low carb ones. 717 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: You can get a flat kind of hamburger roll which 718 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: is smaller itself. You can get the low carb varieties. 719 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I think I have just said that. You can get 720 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: a mulscra and roll and take the middle out. You 721 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: could get a sandwich thin and do it that way 722 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: and do it as a pressed one. So to me, 723 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: it's so easy to do. The homemade burgers, even sausage 724 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: sandwiches are going to be a million times better than 725 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: like awful sausage rolls with trans fats in them. 726 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: In pastry that you get, I think. 727 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: We've gone through before there's so many supermarket wedges and 728 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: potato chips which are like over ninety percent potato or 729 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: sweet potato. So go for it, you know, stick those 730 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: in the oven or the air fry. They're fantastic. I'm 731 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: a massive fan of dumplings I go. I personally quite 732 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: like mister Chen's. I think they've got a really high 733 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: percentage of meat in them and they don't have added MSG. 734 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: But there's also a whole range of different ones. They're 735 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: probably my gochoos. And the pizzas. I love the Doctor 736 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: O's pizza. I like the thin and crispy Maccaine pizza, 737 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: the beef one, it's very thin base. We love the 738 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: truffled Coals pizza as well, and also in Coal's Finest 739 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: at the moment, they've got these bags of mushroom, rosotto, noki, 740 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: peppy l saya noki and tomato. 741 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: I love those. 742 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll get the coals Mediterranean vegetables mix it through. 743 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: If I'm quite hungry, I'll put some chicken breast, bit 744 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: of parmesan like so delicious, and I'll get three serves 745 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: out of that. Still enjoy some pasta or noki or risotto, 746 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: controlled portion and again so much cheaper than take away. 747 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Like those bags I think are about maybe twelve dollars 748 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: not on sale, maybe nine on sale. 749 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: Three serves like you're looking at three or. 750 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Four dollars a serve like a Risoto at am at 751 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: a restaurant's what thirty dollars? 752 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: And you know what else I love? 753 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: I love a steak sandwich, so I'll go to Audi 754 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: and I love the Audi fill at steak. You can 755 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: get the piece of it. It's about twenty five dollars, 756 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: but that will feed six people, at least four, if 757 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: not six. I'll caramelize onions with some butter in the 758 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: pan and then get beetroot cheese, and I'll get like 759 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: a shabata loaf usually if I'm Audi for the meat, 760 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: I'll get the shabata loaf and toast it and so delicious, 761 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: and give me that any day over most takeaway. 762 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: So you can certainly do it, and it can be 763 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 2: a million times healthier, and I'd argue more delicious. What 764 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: else have I forgotten? You do Mexican a lot, I know. 765 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: We do, Yeah, we do, like do it yourself taco 766 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: boards where like one of my girls like spinach and 767 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: cucumber the other one likes carroten lettus, so we just 768 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: basically do the meat. I always put beans and there 769 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: are always great the zucchini in the carrot, so not 770 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 4: hide veggies, but put some veggies within the mince, and 771 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 4: then always serve it with a whole lot of salad 772 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: as well. And then it's just the taco shells as well. 773 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: We do sour cream, cheese salsa in the middle. And 774 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: then I've seen this one that I want to try 775 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: for the kids. It's soft tacos and it's like a 776 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: deconstructed for heater board, so it's like sliced steak, and 777 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: then it's like the capsicum, the onion, a bit of 778 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: like grilled mushrooms, and then there's a bit of lettuce 779 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: and stuff on the side, and then there's your toppings, 780 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: like your cream, your guacamole. So it's like a do 781 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 4: it yourself for heater board as well. So I think 782 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: that's really cool. Do it yourself pizza stations. Like you said, 783 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: we've got a pizza ovens. So whenever we have friends, 784 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 4: over all we have a large amount of mouths to feed. 785 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: We do all of the bases. 786 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: We basically have tomato or barbecue sauce they can choose, 787 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: and then we just have this whole range of toppings 788 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 4: and it's like build your own pizza basically, and then 789 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: in the pizza rub and it's a couple of minutes 790 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: in out, in out, and it just makes things really 791 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: easy do it yourself. Sushi bowls are also really good 792 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: because even for young kids, you know, you could just 793 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: do chicken, rice and a bit of cucumber, and then 794 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: the adults can put the noise sheets. They smoke salmon, 795 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 4: the sesame, you can have a bit of a meso dressing. 796 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: I find sushi really tedious to make, Like I just 797 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 4: I don't make it because I can't roll them fast 798 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: enough before they're eaten. So I'm just like hard, No, 799 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: if I'm going to do sushi, I'll just do it 800 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: in a deconstructed bowl because it just is so much 801 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: easier to do. So I think that's a really good 802 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 4: one or like one pan kind of one pot meals, 803 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: Like if you do a nice lamb shoulder or something 804 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: in the slow cooker and shred that you can get 805 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: so many different types of meals out of that. You 806 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: could make some nachos or a nacho salad, bowl. You 807 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: could do that with some potato chippies in the oven 808 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 4: and some salad. You could do that with roast chicken 809 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: as well, like shred of roast chicken, and then you 810 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: could do salad, you could do cook veggies, you could 811 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: do roast potatoes on the side. I think any kind 812 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 4: of deconstructed meal for families or like a group of 813 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: friends is a really good option as well, because it's 814 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: really rare that everybody likes the same thing. So I 815 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: think that we can you can deconstruct it and people 816 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: can pick and choose what they like, like this one 817 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: likes tomato, this one likes carrot, this one likes a 818 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: bit of chicken, but that one wants vegetarian. 819 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: I think it is a really good way to. 820 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: Accommodate a crowd or for more fussy families or families 821 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: with smaller kids as well. 822 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: And the question was also about dessert, So my number 823 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: and take home with desserts is that there are so 824 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: many individual mini sized ice creams. Now you would argue 825 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: you're always much better to buy those than tubs of anything. 826 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Like you can get the little even the Mars bars 827 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: or the mini cornetto's, all the ones coals have got 828 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: the little mini sandwiches, literally everything in a much smaller portion, 829 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Whereas if you open a tub of two liter gourmet 830 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: ice cream, you will eat the whole lot absolutely regardless, 831 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: Whereas if you have the individuals, it's a much easier 832 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: way to portion control it. I think when it comes 833 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: to blocks of chocolate, they're so small now, like Jesus, 834 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: they'd barely feed for people long gone on the days 835 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: where they're big, So it's so expensive. But I think 836 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: the individual ice cream is a really smart way of 837 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: keeping families amounts controlled and still having all the deliciousness 838 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: of mainstream desserts. So they're probably my best tips for that, 839 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: but much easier. And say o because you know what 840 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: McDonald's now, So I am I like a shiky hamburger, 841 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: a gidiburger. I've had it since I was a trial. 842 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: I love it like it's disgusting. 843 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: I know it's worst. 844 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: It's worse than the diet coke, which I've ditched, But 845 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: a cheeky hamboo a McDonald's is my go to. 846 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: But do you know how much? 847 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: So they charged like five bucks for the happy meal, 848 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: maybe six dollars. 849 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: You know how much a thick shaker. A Sunday is 850 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: five dollars, five or six dollars. Really, that's expensive. 851 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: Look for the cone, the cone that used to be dozens, 852 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: not the cone for their Sunday like a Sunday Sunday 853 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 5: thing or a thick shake five bucks. 854 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: That is a lot of money. They're not that big, 855 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: so that's how they get you. They get you the 856 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: cheap happy meal. But then as soon as you add 857 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: the desserts and stuff, so you're much better to go 858 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: to Coals and Woolies, particularly when all the ice creams 859 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: are half priced. Because you get four for five dollars 860 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: one Sunday at Macca's five bucks. How can you justify 861 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: that they're not very big. I was at McDonald's locally recently, 862 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: and this lady came in and she'd ordered Sundays for 863 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: her kids, and she went off her head at the 864 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: McDonald's staff because when she looked, they weren't that full. 865 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: So she had obviously experienced the five dollars Sunday and 866 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: she realized that they hadn't even filled it properly with 867 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: the stuff, So. 868 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 2: She went off her handed them. 869 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: It's inflation, man, drive up the price and make it smaller. 870 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't think it's cheaper. 871 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: You're actually much better to do it at home and 872 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: have those options which are just as delicious but portion controlled. 873 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: So I love again if I'm like entertaining or something. 874 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 4: I love chocolate covered strawberries. I like fruit skewers where 875 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: you can either dip them in a bit of like 876 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: chocolate fond do, or you can dip it in like 877 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: a bit of yogurt. I love stewed apples, Like Coming 878 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 4: Out of Winter we did a lot of stewed apples, 879 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: bit of granola on top of scoop of vanilla ice cream. 880 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: You do it with like berries as well, that works 881 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: really well, like a nice berry bake crumble ice cream 882 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: that works really well, And like you can do like 883 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 4: a healthier like frozen yogurt, like a banana nice cream. 884 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of those, like Ninja ice cream 885 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 4: things online, like a lot of influencers have them. We 886 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: don't have one, but that could be a really fun thing. 887 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: You can kind of make your own ice cream. 888 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 2: They're five hundred dollars. 889 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: Oh maybe that's why I don't have one. 890 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: So if anyone's listening from Ninja Leanne or I am 891 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: very happy try give it well because we saw that 892 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: on the football final and my little boys were beside 893 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: themselves and then I was like, oh yeah, that's a 894 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: good Christmas present. Five hundred and fifty bucks. I was like, wow, 895 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: they're not missing out. But you can make a lot 896 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: of healthy desserts with it, and we're very open to 897 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: sponsoring and giving it a go Ninja. 898 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: If you want to give us one, we'll share it 899 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 2: between us. No drama. 900 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: All right, on that notely end, we're getting silly. Time 901 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Perhaps our first video of the 902 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: nutrition couch. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Let's just 903 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: spice it up. 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