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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is one of the country's favorite gardeners.

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Speaker 2: For almost a decade, he's been hosting Gardening Australia. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: we're in opposition with each other when the living room's on,

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Speaker 2: but we are great mates as well.

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Speaker 1: Costa, Hello, Amanda lovely. Thanks for the chance to come

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Speaker 1: and chat.

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Speaker 3: This is like a rare opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And Amanda wasn't see she wasn't saying that while you're

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Speaker 4: out at the studio.

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Speaker 3: What's he on for?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to just shive him.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to stab him in the guts.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Costa actually came onto the living room last year

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Speaker 2: and you you gave me some of your honey and

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Speaker 2: you've brought another jar in two. This is the honey

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Speaker 2: from your garden.

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Speaker 1: In North Bondi. What's the flavor of North Bondai.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting from the honey I gave you back

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Speaker 3: then to this, you'll taste the difference because of course

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Speaker 3: that the honey is affected by the flowers that are

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Speaker 3: in season. So the taste of winter honey is different

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Speaker 3: to the taste of spring and then and then summer.

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Speaker 3: It varies. You know, if the eucalypse are flowering because

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Speaker 3: they fly over and might get the paper barks. And

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Speaker 3: so it's what's nice about it is that I share

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Speaker 3: the honey everywhere I go. When we do stories, I

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Speaker 3: take honey as a thank you for people and say,

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Speaker 3: you know, try this, and and then you can start

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Speaker 3: to have conversations so about the importance of bees and

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Speaker 3: why we need them in the city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I've saw a big swarm of bees come

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Speaker 4: through my house like that big just flew through, not

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Speaker 4: through the house, but through the backyard. And then they

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Speaker 4: just gathered on this gum tree, the big the big

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Speaker 4: swarm of bees. Yeah, and so where would they be going?

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Speaker 4: Where are they off to?

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Speaker 3: Well, what happens is a hive will determine that they

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Speaker 3: want to re queen, and it's kind of a natural

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Speaker 3: process of maintaining diversity rather than just being in breed

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Speaker 3: all the time. So they'll thus a queen. A normal

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Speaker 3: cell will turn into a queen cell and then they

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Speaker 3: fly out and take some of the party with them.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's basically that moment. I had two of

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Speaker 3: them this year and they just went to the street

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Speaker 3: tree outside, and you know, people freak out because the

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Speaker 3: sky fills up with bees, but then within twenty minutes

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Speaker 3: they gather around. Sometimes you'll see it on the news

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Speaker 3: that they stop on a motorbike or on a car

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Speaker 3: windscreen or front door of a house. But they're very

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Speaker 3: calm at that point because their focus is purely to

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Speaker 3: keep the queen warm. And I just climbed up the tree,

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Speaker 3: got a bucket, cut the branch lowered in the bucket,

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Speaker 3: took them home and set up a new box so weeping.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I have it. Yeah, yeah, you have it.

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Speaker 4: You just don't go in there. I know you've got

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Speaker 4: a good beard.

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Speaker 3: The beard's a good buffer, but it won't protect you.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you this?

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Speaker 2: When people say and I think, I throw this centers

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Speaker 2: around all I kill everything I try to grow, Is

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Speaker 2: that just because I don't have patience? Anyone can be

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Speaker 2: a good gardener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not. Some people who are good at it

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Speaker 1: and some who aren't.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, because that is that mindset. You know,

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Speaker 3: you get something and you overwater it just with kindness

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Speaker 3: or sort of angst about oh it's looking good, I'll

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Speaker 3: keep watering it. We anthropomorphize it and think, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: you need breakfast, I'll give you a bit at lunch,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a bit of dinner. And most like

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Speaker 3: indoor plants, for example, people ninety percent of the problems

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Speaker 3: is drowning them because the water stays in the soil.

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Speaker 3: And then you give it a bit more the next day,

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Speaker 3: and a bit more the next day and the right.

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Speaker 1: How do you know when defeed it when to water it.

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Speaker 3: Well, with most indoor plants, they'll start to give you

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Speaker 3: a sign, you know, something like a Madonna lily, the

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Speaker 3: classic spath of phylum, like it has the white the

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Speaker 3: word step, like their leaves just go right and they

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Speaker 3: just go mate, Come on, Amanda, I need a drink.

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Speaker 3: And that's the best way to do it.

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Speaker 1: So that's what it does when it needs a drink.

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Speaker 1: When you overwater, it'll just can't.

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Speaker 3: Oh you'll see it. Yeah, it'll start that. You'll get

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Speaker 3: black lines on it and splotches and it's just saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: i'm cold, i'm wet, I'm unhappy, you're killing me, thank you,

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Speaker 3: and good night.

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Speaker 1: So wait for the wilt and then water.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: What's the word on jacaranda trees? Because one point they

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Speaker 4: were they're great, and now someone was saying the other day,

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Speaker 4: they've been declared a noxious weed.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: I was arguing with someone. I said, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: you just can't chop them down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you can do that. No, because

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Speaker 3: you know what was interesting, I learned recently that there

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Speaker 3: was a period of time, and it might have been

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Speaker 3: back in the fifties I think, or maybe even earlier,

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Speaker 3: where baby's born Winners and Saint Margaret's up in Darlinghurst

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Speaker 3: and and other hospitals as well at north Shore and

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Speaker 3: so on. They would give the newborns, give their mums

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Speaker 3: a jacaranda, and that's why there's so many around the birds.

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Speaker 3: It was this gift which I hadn't I hadn't known

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Speaker 3: that a little bit of But.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it ironic? So those little babies would have come

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Speaker 4: home with a tree. But now they're middle aged people

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Speaker 4: that want to chop them down because it's filling up

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Speaker 4: their swimming pools with purple.

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Speaker 3: Flowers, or they're blowing up about the fact that's that

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Speaker 3: their streets are filling up with tourists coming.

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Speaker 1: If that's not a Country and Western song, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what is.

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Speaker 4: Well, Costa, it's great, it's I'm glad you came and

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Speaker 4: shared the honey, although you've all only brought in one jar,

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Speaker 4: so I'll take that. You know, it would be nice

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Speaker 4: of you to say, I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring another one. Thank you, bring another one.

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Speaker 3: Always.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you tonight seven thirty on ABC Guarding

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Speaker 4: austral Across to thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Thanks jaen Zy, thanks Man.

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Speaker 1: Great to see

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Speaker 3: Jones and Amanda's