WEBVTT - SEEING GREEN - The Jealous type

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and I feel really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be here today because I feel a bit rejuvenated.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a weekend away and I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>come back and I haven't seen you in like a week. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel rejuvenated too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I've hit the point in my

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy now where yesterday I sneezed and I pissed myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking like a little week I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>like in public sneeze and my bladder let go. So

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<v Speaker 1>just to clarify, how do you feel rejuvenated because of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that just makes you feel fresh, like you shower yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>No being psychastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just reached that point in my life now where

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have control over my bodily functions like I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I would get there when I was a geriatric,

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently not.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty four is the year where.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't have any control over my pelvic floor muscles.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so when you we yourself in public, is

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<v Speaker 1>it just like the tiniest little bit or you mean

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<v Speaker 1>like it's you're proper.

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<v Speaker 2>Satched well normally. Look, I mean I've been at the

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<v Speaker 2>at the sneeze and weir a little bit stage for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. But yeah, like like, oh that's uncomfortable, but

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<v Speaker 2>that just happened. No, this was like I sneezed and

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<v Speaker 2>I wet myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like those cute commercials where you see where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, I sometimes say sneeze and a little

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<v Speaker 2>leakage comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I fully peed myself. This kid is sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>my bladder and jumping up and down. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>here it comes in accidentally unfiltered stories on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love that. Not love that for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love that for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have these like bruises I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>to all the other pregnant women out there, I had

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<v Speaker 2>these bruises all down the sides of my legs across

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<v Speaker 2>my stomach because I don't have spatial awareness about how

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<v Speaker 2>big I am and this has just happened in a

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<v Speaker 2>very short period of time. So I run into walls.

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<v Speaker 2>I run into the baby gate at home, I run

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<v Speaker 2>into the baby gate at work. Like I just keep

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<v Speaker 2>running into things that normally I would fit through, and

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<v Speaker 2>I no longer fit through them like doors.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's because you, to me, as an

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<v Speaker 1>outlooker looking in, I feel like you were like not pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>not pregnant, not pregnant, not pregnant, not pregnant, pregnant, like

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. Your belly just came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you didn't look pregnant until literally maybe three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. So I reckon, that's what's happened. You just

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<v Speaker 1>you're not used to it, and it wasn't there. It

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<v Speaker 1>just popped out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what's happened, knocking things left, right and center. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it's happening. It's actually happening sooner than what I keep remembering.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep forgetting. I mean, you do have a date, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do, and I keep forgetting what that date is,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is quickly approaching, which is very frightening in

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<v Speaker 2>my pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I love about this? Actually, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to tell the people our private conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>our private concerns. I'm like, Laura, I've got some concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit stressed about what's happening. What's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>when you have the baby? How long you're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time off. I was like, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a two year old a newborn. You run,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony May, We've got the podcast. What we let's put

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<v Speaker 1>some plans into place. Baby, It's fine, it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even gonna be hard. She's like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. I'll take like two weeks off. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, it's gonna be it's gonna be pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like nuts. It's having two is just

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<v Speaker 1>like having one. And I'm in my head, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is I know, I can see

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<v Speaker 1>this imploding. But I love your optimism.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm somebody who thrives in chaos. So like, the more

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<v Speaker 2>priotic my life is, the more I actually get shit done,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that makes people who are like a personality

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<v Speaker 2>types and very organized, very stressed. But when things are

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<v Speaker 2>just out of control in my life, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my element here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Laura and I do get We do our

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<v Speaker 1>best work at like two am the day that something

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<v Speaker 1>is due, when we're stressed to the nines. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is me trying to really be like a good businessman.

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<v Speaker 1>Business farder and like preempt the chaos is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I can't. I think we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to roll with it. Sit what happened, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Also think of all the funny stories that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to come as a result of this. But anyway, enough

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<v Speaker 2>about me and not being able to fit three walls

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<v Speaker 2>and peeing myself. Guys, here we are another episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure that's not how you expected this one to start.

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<v Speaker 1>I went away for the weekend to put mcquarie back

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<v Speaker 1>home to the Fanbam. It was my sister Sherry's thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the longest bloody thirtieth. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated over two weeks. My Nana came from Sydney and

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<v Speaker 1>we had this little house party. But my Nana and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and dad and they got lit. My Nana

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<v Speaker 1>was lit like she she's like, I haven't partied in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. She was down in the line. She was

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<v Speaker 1>the life of the party. They loved it. But we

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<v Speaker 1>had such a good time and.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just imagining Nana Hockley doing fireballs and taking her

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<v Speaker 2>top off.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she was like there were photos of us

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<v Speaker 1>where she's like you know when you're at I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why we even did this. We were all pretty drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when you do those FoST where you lift

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<v Speaker 1>someone up sideways. My eighty five year old Nana, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like sideways while these drunk people were thrown around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just roll with it, roll with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was just nice to get away. Also, the beaches

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<v Speaker 1>in Port Macquarie incredible. No one's on them. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like you could have kilometers of empty beaches which

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<v Speaker 1>you just will never get here. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit of a revive and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm coming this morning with so much energy. So guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been working for a little while now

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<v Speaker 1>with our friends over a Bumble. And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>I have personally been working with Bumble because I have

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<v Speaker 1>been on Bumble for seven years. But she's also been

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<v Speaker 1>on a bus stop as the Bumble Ambassador. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>shy about it anyway. But because we've been working them,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a really great funny segment coming up today

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to be talking about your best, funniest,

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<v Speaker 1>most awkward, weird, and wonderful online bumble dating stories because

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<v Speaker 1>we know there are a lot of them. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be jumping into the episode today, guys, which

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<v Speaker 1>we should probably tell you what it's about. It is

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<v Speaker 1>about jealousy, and a very specific type of jealousy called

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<v Speaker 1>retroactive or retrospective jealousy. Now that's something I hadn't heard before.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'd heard about it much, Laura. So

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, let's jump into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's definitely something that we hadn't heard the label for. However,

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<v Speaker 2>someone was talking about it in the Facebook group and

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<v Speaker 2>it's so retroactive jealousy is like when you are jealous

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<v Speaker 2>of your partner's ex for example. Well, we'll get into

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<v Speaker 2>that fully in a little while. But we both saw

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<v Speaker 2>it and it came up in the Facebook group and

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, this is such an interesting topic because

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<v Speaker 2>jealousy is something that we all deal with at different

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<v Speaker 2>points in our relationships. It's an emotion that's a bit icky,

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<v Speaker 2>but we cannot get away from it. And we thought,

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<v Speaker 2>being a relationship podcast, how have we gotten to this

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<v Speaker 2>point and never spoken about jealousy. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into that, I know you haven't accidentally unfilled the story

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I do and it comes from one of our own.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in our Facebook group, and I just had

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest chuckle. It's Laura. I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, but basically this is what she says. She's

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<v Speaker 1>grolling Facebook and she sees the Facebook Life Uncut group post.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she sees another post under it, and she just

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<v Speaker 1>assumes it was the Facebook Life on Cut group. The

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<v Speaker 1>question was if you had to name your child after

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing you touched, what would you call it?

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<v Speaker 3>So she writes in penis ha And then like an

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<v Speaker 3>hour later, when some other people in her community group

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<v Speaker 3>write to her being like you can't post that, she

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<v Speaker 3>realizes that she didn't write that in a Life on

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<v Speaker 3>Cut group. It was just like a community suburb group

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just like general questions between the moms

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<v Speaker 3>like what would you call your kid if it was

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing you touched? And she was like, Dirk,

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<v Speaker 3>but she thought she was writing it to our group,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like, I'm fucking mortified, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was a cutettle thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, are you guys go rogue in the life on

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<v Speaker 2>cart group.

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<v Speaker 1>We love it, We're here for it. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call your kid penis look nah maybe actually no,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be yeah, probably not okay, but also kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it like it's like the Bondi local group,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the bi swap sell and stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she just put in a local suburb group.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's hilarious, although it really does open that

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<v Speaker 2>up to interpretation. Name your kid, the last thing you touched.

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<v Speaker 2>What would yours be? Porridge table, microphone?

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<v Speaker 1>Mine would be spirrillina ha hah. That has made a

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<v Speaker 1>green smoothie Go health anyway, guys, So, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Britt said, we do have this very special segment today

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<v Speaker 2>where we put a call out on our instagrams for

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<v Speaker 2>your funniest Bumble online dating stories and wholely shit nickers.

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<v Speaker 2>We have received some of the most hilarious stories, and

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously we know that there are so many online

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<v Speaker 2>dating success stories that come out of Bumble and come

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<v Speaker 2>out of all of the different online platforms. However, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily the funniest ones. A lot of the funny

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<v Speaker 2>stories we've come out of this dating fails. Even with

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<v Speaker 2>dating fails, there's often been times where they've turned into

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<v Speaker 2>long term relationships. However, I do have a question for

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<v Speaker 2>you britt And it's all about like what is the etiquette?

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<v Speaker 2>So we had so many funny stories coming in, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the stories that came in really made me

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. If you have match with someone on

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<v Speaker 2>online dating, you've exchanged a few words with them, but

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<v Speaker 2>you've not organized a date, it hasn't really gone any further.

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<v Speaker 2>But then just say you're at the beach, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>at a bar, or you're somewhere and you see them

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<v Speaker 2>in real life. What is the etiquette there? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>go up and talk to them? Can you go up

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<v Speaker 2>and be like would you go up and say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we matched on bumble, like, let's date.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've spoken to them, but I've never met them

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<v Speaker 1>in real life. I would probably not because I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way they recognize who I am in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would think. I would be like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not another fucking who I am, Like my my online

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<v Speaker 1>dating profile is pretty mint, Like I've got a bet.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I.

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<v Speaker 2>Always say to you, like, you cannot putka and they

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is a rule for online dating. You

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<v Speaker 2>cannot put your absolute best photos where you look so

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<v Speaker 2>much hotter than you normally look in day to day

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<v Speaker 2>life for the fear of running into a match and

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<v Speaker 2>then being like that girl looks vaguely like someone I

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<v Speaker 2>matched on Bumble except less hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that for so long, obviously, like you as

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<v Speaker 1>like a CEV, so you put your best foot forward,

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<v Speaker 1>until I realized this and I did change. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>like a few really good photos, and then I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a few like really normal photos, literally normal day to

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<v Speaker 1>day I mean they're not my they're not my worst photos.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to keep it semi normal and semi like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm liking the date, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>my potential at night, I can go from a seven

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<v Speaker 1>to a ten reel clip now. So no, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're totally entitled to if you go. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>seen someone and you're like, I think we've met on

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<v Speaker 1>Bumble before, someone has said that to me. Actually, we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the Royal in Bondai, which is our local. He

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<v Speaker 1>came up to me and he's like, he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we mushed on Bumble, but you didn't reply, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ah, did we There's the reason why we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't apply. But no, I think definitely, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can one hundred percent cop and strike up the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because what is the difference? I agree, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess the difference is like not having that anonymity, and

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<v Speaker 2>like the fear of being rejected in real life is

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<v Speaker 2>much greater than the fear of being rejected online. You've matched? Yeah, totally, Well, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I thought I would ask this was

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<v Speaker 2>because one of the funny story that came in and

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<v Speaker 2>this is like, this is a success story, So this

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<v Speaker 2>one isn't that funny. The rest of them are much

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<v Speaker 2>much funnier. Usually the funny stories come when she's gone

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<v Speaker 2>completely wrong. One of our listeners had been at the

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<v Speaker 2>Opera bar and she was waiting to meet this guy

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<v Speaker 2>who she'd matched. She was waiting for him, and this

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<v Speaker 2>other guy came up to her and was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've matched on Bumble before, Like how you're going, And

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<v Speaker 2>she was kind of like, this is really awkward because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here meeting someone else, but was trying to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation up pretty quickly that at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, I'm really vibing this guy, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>is hot, he is great. They had obvious real chemistry. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>she went on her date. The date was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a flog, and then at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>day the guy from the original matchually the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>came up at the start, came up and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be able to take you out sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're still together. Yes, there you go, it actually happens. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's your answer everyone. If you see someone in the

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<v Speaker 1>wild that you have matched online, approach them with caution,

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<v Speaker 1>but approach them. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I had the guys, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get in some of these actual funny stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to kick start. So I was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be meeting this beautiful, beautiful, tall, six foot three blonde

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<v Speaker 1>man with freckles. He seemed super fit and had really

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<v Speaker 1>good chat. I got to the place that we were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to meet, which was Manly wharf bar. I stood

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<v Speaker 1>in the line with the COVID sign keep your distance

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<v Speaker 1>weight here. Suddenly this random guy in the line with

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<v Speaker 1>fiery red hair strikes up a conversation with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>look at him, well, I looked down at him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's shorter than me. I'm five ten and I was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing my heels because why not. My hot date was

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<v Speaker 1>six foot three. I say hi, and I try to

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<v Speaker 1>be polite. I mean, I was looking pretty damn good,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't blame him. This guy starts asking me

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<v Speaker 1>questions and I feel really awkward, and I look down

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<v Speaker 1>at my phone trying to get away, and I see

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a message from my hot date saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the line. I look around and I type

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see you. Suddenly, this little guy with a

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<v Speaker 1>fiery red hair checks his phone and it's the message

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<v Speaker 1>that I had just sent. I wanted to die. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked up at me and said, oh, your message just

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<v Speaker 1>came through. The reception must be bad in here. I

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<v Speaker 1>sat with my date the whole time, feeling like an awkward, big,

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<v Speaker 1>friendly giant. He catfished her. That's so wrong, but also

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<v Speaker 1>how funny that she's message in him saying I can't

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<v Speaker 1>see you, and he's there and he's like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>here receptions bat but also like he must.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously had completely faith profile photos up.

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<v Speaker 1>Do these people think is going to happen? You would

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not the first one I received another one

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<v Speaker 2>where the girl had gone to the bar and she

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<v Speaker 2>was meeting this really hot African American guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six foot five, and then rocked up and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny, little redhead guy, and he was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I catfish you, but I know you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have swiped right on me. But I'm hoping my personality

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<v Speaker 2>might shine.

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<v Speaker 1>Through what is wrong with people? No, okay, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is my thing too, if you're gonna catfish, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>condoning it, but I'm just trying to get on this wavelength.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll break it down, Brittany, if you are going to catfish,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you try to catfish with someone that was just

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<v Speaker 1>like a remotely better version of you? Like, keep it

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<v Speaker 1>on the same wavelength. If you're a short redhead, why

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<v Speaker 1>would you put a six foot five black guy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a short white man with red hair, why put

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<v Speaker 1>a six foot five black man as your catfish? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't be more polar opposite at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least, maybe keep it within the same ethnicity and also

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<v Speaker 2>within the same hair coloring one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe just change the height a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got that story through from this listener, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why didn't you just get up and leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sorry, but no, good relationship has come from

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<v Speaker 2>a basis of lying, Like, I don't think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really great foundation to start from.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just ask you something on that if you

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<v Speaker 1>went there to a date, because this hasn't actually happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me, but if you went there and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a blatant catfish and he's like, but please, I'm really nice,

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<v Speaker 1>would you leave one hundred percent? Yeah, I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's too uncomfortable. It's also like very suspicious,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I would question how much of the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the conversation we've had was untrue. So I don't care, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not basing this on what you look like. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that this is because I find you unattractive.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have lied to me about that so casually,

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<v Speaker 2>then I would think that you are very casual about

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<v Speaker 2>lying about other aspects of your life. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting there going I don't know what's real and

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<v Speaker 2>not real anymore. This is not the foundation of what

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<v Speaker 2>I want from a relationship. See you later. How Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that invested in someone I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, all right, give me another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I met this guy on bumble and we

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<v Speaker 2>had such good chemistry, heaps of banter. We went on

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<v Speaker 2>a date and he picked me up and we went

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<v Speaker 2>for far Is it far off?

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<v Speaker 1>Fau? Oh, it's actually fuh fu.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is very controversial guys, if you say faux

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<v Speaker 2>or if you say far.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm pretty sure it's far, but ninety percent people

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<v Speaker 1>say faux.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still say fau. But I'm only saying far

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't want people to correct me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, can I get them? Before?

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<v Speaker 2>So they went to have some really spicy Asian soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm one of those people who love spicy food.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the spicier the better. So here I am

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<v Speaker 2>dishing a ton of chili onto my soup. The guy

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm there with pretends that he also likes the

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<v Speaker 2>heat too, so he's having at least double the amount

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm having. I think he's trying to impress me

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<v Speaker 2>by how much he likes chili. Beads of sweat all

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<v Speaker 2>over his face, and after dinner he suggests that we

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<v Speaker 2>go for a walk just around the river.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lovely view.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, he is desperate for the toilet

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<v Speaker 2>and he disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>In chili shits, He disappears into a restaurant for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole hour.

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<v Speaker 2>When he gets back, he told me he actually shit

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<v Speaker 2>his pants and.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to and couldn't proceed on the walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I suggested that we go home. He was driving,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to sit in the car. His window

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<v Speaker 2>was broken. It didn't go down on the passenger side.

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<v Speaker 1>I can still remember the smell to this day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was over a year ago. Not my heart is

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<v Speaker 1>actually breaking for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you give him another chance? Do you know why

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<v Speaker 2>you would?

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<v Speaker 1>I would not, do you know what, because only because

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in that position before where you could

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<v Speaker 1>giving me a million dollars not to pooh, and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have done it. Like sometimes in life there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a moment where you need to pooh and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change who you are as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>It just maybe changes you diet in the future. No

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<v Speaker 2>more chili for you, man, Why is this a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've seen this with other people. My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my stepdad do it as well. So they they love chili,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them, but they have like chili almost like

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<v Speaker 2>they had this like unspoken chili competition as to who

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<v Speaker 2>can eat the hottest foods, and they're like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>like chili more than you like chili, and they buy

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<v Speaker 2>some like ridiculous fifty dollars most expensive, most hottest chili

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<v Speaker 2>in the world's sauce to put on all their food.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll put it on fucking pancakes, and you're like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you? Who are you trying to prove this too?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't taste good. It's like a dick competition.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with guys also too, it's like who can

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<v Speaker 1>eat the most chili like you're a man. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think where this man went wrong, Surprisingly, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>pooing his pants. Where he went wrong was not just

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<v Speaker 1>ordering her an uber and paying for an uber. It

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<v Speaker 1>was making her sit in his car when his window

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work with the shit in there, pay for the

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<v Speaker 1>girls uber.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that where he went wrong was just not being

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<v Speaker 2>all she can saying I don't like chili. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that could have all been sold right there at

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<v Speaker 2>the very bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You have given him another chance. Oh yeah, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>girl's name is Nadia. He's opening line on bumble, Hey Nya,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about the d you'll get that later. She

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<v Speaker 1>goes ah, thanks by no things.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy asked me if I wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the beach and play shark attack. I asked, wait, what's

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<v Speaker 2>shark attack? And he said, you scream while I eat

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<v Speaker 2>you out. My name is Amanda.

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<v Speaker 1>The first line in the message what's better than eating

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda in eating Amanda out? Oh he's awful. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, surely these people don't actually think these lines

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna work. I think these guys are not invested,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they think it's it's funny to just

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<v Speaker 1>do a throwaway and like, if it works great, If

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean and they're getting their own entertainment out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have one more story to throw into the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy I matched on Bumble kept talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his two cats all night long. We had a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>great date, however. He told me stories about all the

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<v Speaker 2>funny things his cats did and how they always sit

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<v Speaker 2>next to his bed at nighttime when he woke up,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. He talked about his cats a lot. Towards

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the date. He then asked me if

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see pictures of his cats. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, pal, I mean I like cats, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was really into them. He took some printed pictures out

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<v Speaker 2>of his bag and it turns out the cats were

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<v Speaker 2>dead and they were taxidermy.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my lock, oh my actual cos So in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I went over all the things he'd been

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<v Speaker 1>telling me in the last two hours about his cats,

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<v Speaker 1>and it all got very, very fucking creepy. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>machine his house? We were that girl rush. They were

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<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the funny thing is is this wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only story that I received from people who had either

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<v Speaker 2>had a cat that passed away and was pretending that

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<v Speaker 2>the cat was still alive because they thought that chicks

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<v Speaker 2>like guys with cats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird. Just buy a new cat. Yeah, get a cat,

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<v Speaker 1>Get a cat. Leave the photos at home. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that we was supposed to wrap it up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have another one. I could go on for ages.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl, I'm not I'm just telling this story. This

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<v Speaker 1>girl invited this not This girl went over to this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's house for dinner. First date. He's like, come grab

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<v Speaker 1>some pizza. Brilliant. She comes over, they start to eat

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<v Speaker 1>their pizza. She's like, within an hour, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't vibing it. Knew it wasn't going anywhere. So she

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up and she was like, I'm going to head home.

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<v Speaker 1>Headed home. Got a message from him as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>she got in the door that said, hey, charging you

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars per piece of pizza. This is my bank details,

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<v Speaker 1>please transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>No, She's like, I had three pieces for real?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I reckon now she had three pieces of pizza

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<v Speaker 1>and he asked for six dollars to be transferred into

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<v Speaker 1>his account. Did she do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Has here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've got one more and then we're gonna call

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<v Speaker 2>it at this all right? So I recently downloaded Bumble

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<v Speaker 2>and thought I'm gonna try dating multiple guys so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get overly attached. I had a first date lined

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<v Speaker 2>up with a guy on a Friday night and it

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<v Speaker 2>was drinks, drinks and tappers. And then I had another

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<v Speaker 2>date lined up with another guy on the Saturday night,

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a chill, sunset picnic. The Friday date went way better

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<v Speaker 2>than I ever expected, and I ended up back at

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<v Speaker 2>his place. We spent the night there and we had

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<v Speaker 2>mind blowing marathon sex. I left his place the next morning,

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<v Speaker 2>went into work for a bit and then got ready

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<v Speaker 2>for my second date, admittedly not really feeling like going

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<v Speaker 2>on a second date with the new guy because I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't stop thinking about the first guy. Anyway, the picnic

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<v Speaker 2>was lovely, the guy was fine. We ended up packing

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<v Speaker 2>up and heading to a bar for a drink afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>where we were there for a couple of hours chatting

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<v Speaker 2>when his friends rocked up. What do you think happened, Britt?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What? What would happen to me? I would turn up

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<v Speaker 1>and my date, I reckon her date from the Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Night was like his roommate or his best friend or

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<v Speaker 1>someone there in that group. So a group of his

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<v Speaker 1>friends rocked up and it was the guy from the

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Night It was Marathon Sex guy turned up to

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<v Speaker 1>her date.

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<v Speaker 2>However, this actual story has a very very happy ending,

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<v Speaker 2>so obviously she wasn't vibing with Saturday Night guy. She

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<v Speaker 2>was really transparent and said explain what had happened and

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<v Speaker 2>then had her have like an awkward conversation with them both.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's still now dating Friday Night guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she is queen Marathon Sex. So look that's a

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<v Speaker 1>win all around. Well, other thing with that is to

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<v Speaker 1>no one that's a very unfortunate situation, but no one's

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<v Speaker 1>actually in the wrong. It's just like, it's just unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that she went on two dates in a weekend that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be with best friends. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most people who are online dating can rationalize the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that most people that they've gone on one date with

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<v Speaker 1>are still open to meeting other people. They're still dating.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, nobody locks down a date or locks down

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<v Speaker 2>like a commitment after one date. I think that very

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<v Speaker 2>few people would kind of go down that path.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, get a girl, Well get it. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call it. This has been one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>segments that we've done, and we have so many more

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. We literally had hundreds that I reckon. We

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<v Speaker 1>just whax them up on the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>We will put some of the more hilarious and inappropriate

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 2>ones up on the Facebook group which is Life Uncut

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Podcast if you're not already following. But also we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say thank you again to Bumble for having

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<v Speaker 2>a wicked sense of humor and allowing us to share

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<v Speaker 2>some of the funniest online dating stories that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>share with us. There has been so many that have

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<v Speaker 2>come through. But the one thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 2>so amazing from a lot of these stories is that

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how ridiculous some of these stories may seem,

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<v Speaker 2>so many of them have actually ended up in legitimate relationships. So, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>for today's episode, we really wanted to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>around jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when we started.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about this, I was so surprised that we have

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<v Speaker 2>managed to get through a year and a half of

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<v Speaker 2>recordings and never done a full episode on jealousy and

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<v Speaker 2>jealousy in relationships, jealousy in friendship groups, the whole spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>of what jealousy is, because quite seriously, it's probably one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most common negative emotions that we feel in relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, even if you don't think that you're

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<v Speaker 2>a jealous person at all, I'm sure that there has

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<v Speaker 2>been times in your relationships or times in your friendships

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<v Speaker 2>where that, you know, green demon has raised its head

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and it's something we all deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very very common feeling. But for some people,

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<v Speaker 2>jealousy can be something that becomes overwhelming and obsessive in

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<v Speaker 2>their relationships and it can really damage and break down

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<v Speaker 2>our self confidence, our self worth and become a wedge

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<v Speaker 2>in our relationships as well, so we wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this. It's also something that's come up quite a

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<v Speaker 2>lot recently in the Facebook group and we've had a

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<v Speaker 2>few questions surrounding it, and we're going to break down

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<v Speaker 2>the different types of what jealousy is and how people

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<v Speaker 2>can experience it and what triggers it. Then we're also

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about some coping mechanisms, and we then

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<v Speaker 2>want to dive into a very specific type of jealousy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called retroactive or retrospectivejealousy, and retroactive jealousy is

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<v Speaker 2>basically when you are in a relationship with your partner

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<v Speaker 2>now and you feel jealousy about their ex and become

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<v Speaker 2>obsessive or jealous about the relationships that they've had in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. So we're going to fully unpack that because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a very interesting and specific kind

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<v Speaker 2>of jealousy that I know I have personally felt before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will tell you all my deep, dark secrets, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but before we get into it, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>quickly give you a bit of a definition around what

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<v Speaker 2>jealousy is. And that's because I mean, obviously we all

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is, we've all felt it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there is also often a misconception that jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>and envy are the same things. So envy is something

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<v Speaker 2>very different to jealousy. Envy is when you are envious

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<v Speaker 2>of something that somebody else has. Maybe they have a

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<v Speaker 2>amazing relationship, or that you perceive them to have an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing relationship, and you're envious that you don't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they seem really successful to you and you're envious

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not as successful as them. That is not

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<v Speaker 2>the same as jealousy. Jealousy is actually a really preemptive emotion,

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and jealousy is something that you feel when you already

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<v Speaker 2>have something, So it's a protective emotion. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>already in that relationship but you feel threatened by an

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<v Speaker 2>external source, ie you think that girl is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>take your man, that is when you can feel jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to already have something in your life

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<v Speaker 2>to feel jealous about losing. And they say it's a

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<v Speaker 2>preemptive emotion because it's us trying to protect ourselves from

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<v Speaker 2>the loss, from feeling hurt, from feeling pain, from feeling trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>If our partner was to do something to abandon us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where jealousy comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, envy is often associated more with monetary things and

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<v Speaker 1>superficial values, like you're envious of someone's car or someone's house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not usually tied into romance as such. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>like Laura said, that is when you become jealous because

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<v Speaker 1>you're scared of actually losing that. You're not scared of

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<v Speaker 1>losing your car. You know, you're not scared of losing

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<v Speaker 1>these monetary things. That is why say, jealousy and being

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<v Speaker 1>envious of something you are very different and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to work out the difference. And I think jealousy is

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<v Speaker 1>something that no one wants to ever admit that they are.

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<v Speaker 1>We also we almost deem it as a negative characteristic

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, like I'm not a jealous person. No way,

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not being jealous. I don't care when it doesn't

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>always have to be. And that's something we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into as well. Sometimes it can be a positive

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, but I can guarantee you if you

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<v Speaker 1>start to think about your past relationships, all of us

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<v Speaker 1>have had a moment of jealousy, especially in romantic relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously there's jealousy that rears it suddenly head in the

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<v Speaker 1>workplace and in friendship groups and in every other aspect

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of your life. But almost everyone has experienced some type

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<v Speaker 1>of jealousy in a relationship, and Laura, no one more

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<v Speaker 1>so than you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what, though, like, Okay, I will straight

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<v Speaker 2>up put my hand up and say that I have

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<v Speaker 2>definitely been really jealous in past relationships. And I now

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<v Speaker 2>realize now that I'm in a really healthy, secure relationship

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>where I don't feel jealous. I understand what triggers that

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>in me, and I think that that's something like to

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<v Speaker 2>be really cognizant of.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I listened to loads of.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcasts and I read loads of articles before we did

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<v Speaker 2>this recording. And the reason why was because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to really get my head around, like, you know, why

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 2>it is that we feel this way, and why is

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it that I felt jealous in one relationship but not

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<v Speaker 2>in another. Some of the other articles and podcasts they

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<v Speaker 2>listened to, they really kind of drove the point home

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<v Speaker 2>that being jealous is your shit and it's something that

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>you need to work through, like it's your problem, it's

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>not your partner's problem. I don't necessarily believe that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you can be in relationships that insanely

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<v Speaker 2>inflame your jealousy and their relationships that aren't built on trust,

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>their relationships that are very toxic, or they're fragile, or

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>they're volatile, And I mean, for me, I'll just talk

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<v Speaker 2>about my own personal experience for a little bit if

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you give me the microphone.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>That's actually that was the question that I asked you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just went on. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>is she gonna tell me her jealousy story or so?

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a few.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like you guys know, and I've spoken

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>about it really openly that I've definitely been in a

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<v Speaker 2>few toxic relationships that were kind of back to back

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<v Speaker 2>there for a little while. One of them, which was

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the worst, and I've spoken about it quite a few times.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of gas lighting in the relationship.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of him. He would physically and

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>visibly flirt with other girls in front of me. He

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>never really made our relationship public. He never spoke about

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 2>our relationship on social media. He never really made it

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 2>known to other people that we were together, even though

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>we were together for about two years, and that in

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<v Speaker 2>itself made me really insecure, and it made me really

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>question my worth in the relationship. Every time he had

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>contact or he became friends with a girl, or somebody

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>started following him who I didn't know, who was outside

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>of our you know, Like I was like, who the

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>fuck is this new girl following you on social media?

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<v Speaker 2>And it made me really insane. But the reason why

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I felt insane in that relationship was because bottom line,

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't trust him. Bottom line, I shouldn't have trusted

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>trusted him because he was cheating on me and was

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>doing the wrong thing, And so the jealousy that I

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 2>felt was completely warranted. However, the way I expressed my

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>jealousy was completely incorrectly. So I would get jealous, and

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>then I would be angry at the girl, I would

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 2>be angry at whoever it was that he was showing

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>affection too. Instead of realizing that actually these actions and

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>these behaviors were him and he was the problem, and

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>having enough self confidence and respect for myself to actually

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>leave the relationship, I kept on trying to fix it,

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>or fix him, or fix our problems, when really I

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>was jealous. There was a reason that my body was

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>telling me to feel that way, and I really should

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>have just had more respect for myself and left fair.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think back to like my past

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>relationships when I was thinking, have I been jealous? What

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>my situations? And I've got like one main one that's serious,

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and I've got one that's fucking funny. I was in

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>my first relationship, as you guys know, for eight years,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>no jealousy, never experienced it never because I never felt insecure.

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I never felt like he was gonna leave me for

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>someone else. I never felt like I wasn't good enough

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for him. It was just a healthy, secure relationship. So

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what jealousy was because I had I

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>had been with him since I was sixteen. My next

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship was with the sociopath, who I was trying to

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.959
<v Speaker 1>pinpoint if it was jealousy that I was feeling, but

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't think it was because I didn't have

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>any outlet in that relationship to feel jealous. For example,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt two years of insecurity and not feeling good

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>enough and wondering where he was and trust issues, but

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a chance to be jealous because I didn't

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>know anyone in his life he didn't have social media, Facebook, Instagram, nothing.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ever around him, and his friends weren't. We

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>barely went in public together. We're always just on like

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>little week ends away or like I just want you

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to myself, like let's go to this hotel and all

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So when I'm thinking back, I'm like, wow,

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually wasn't jealous because there was no one or

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing to be jealous of. The only thing I'd be

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>jealous of was that maybe he was spending too much

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>time at work with his friends. And I was jealous

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of his colleagues because they were spending more time with

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>him than me. But that's it, So like I didn't

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>get it. Then then I met this guy and I

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just loved him. It was like love at first sight.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Spent just one weekend with him. I've spoken to you

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>guys about it before. I just I met him online

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and he moved back overseas, and we are to this day.

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Probably it's been like six years and we're still really

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>really close friends. But in the early days we still

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>started to talk every day and he went back. We

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>were never gonna be together. He leaves overseas in America,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>but we're still talking every day, and then he was

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>telling me, you know, I'm seeing this new girl, and

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm really happy for you, like, because I

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>can't have you, I want you to be happy great,

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But of course I was like, who the fuck is she?

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I'm going to find her on social media

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and stillk the shit out of her.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like who is this girl? And like why

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>who is she? Is she good enough for you?

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>What is it about her that you know? Why I

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>want you move back to Australia for me? Like in

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>all these crazy things. So I found her on Facebook

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was just talking a page and I was

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>just trying to go through whatever. I love crazy, Brittany.

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>This is the only time I've done it, and it's

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>doing crazy. Like I wasn't ever gonna do anything. I

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to see what she looked like. And then

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that was it. Got out of a page. Then I

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>get a message a couple of hours later, why have

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you befriended bray On on Facebook? And I was like

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel sick? And I was like what They're like,

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>have you been looking up my relationship? And I was like,

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? No? I was like I

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what her name is she's and he

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>sent me a screenshow He's like, you've literally there's a

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>friend request from you. This is why you don't talk

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're so bad at it. I'm so bad to

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>leave betrayal. Anyway, I just owned it, and I was like, okay, look,

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I was interested in what she looks like. I was like,

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously my fat finger was pressed friend requests. I was like,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't doing anything wrong. He laughed, but he's like,

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like, now it's caused the problem because she's like

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>who's this girl? Because we're the only mutual friend and

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>now I've had to tell her you And I'm like,

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>well sorry, like obviously like low key meant to. But

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like sorry, anyway, That's the only time I've

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>experienced jealousy, and I can't experience it anymore because it

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't work out for me.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess when I look back on my relationship with

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the man who will never be named Voldemort, literally the

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>human equivalent of Voldemort. I remember this one time as

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>well where we were out at a nightclub and we

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 2>were at Casa Blanca's.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Guys with the good old days, and there was.

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>This girl who was very, very very flirty with him,

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>and he was like a tall, very attractive man, and

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>she was very flirty with him, and he knew that

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>she was there, like it was very obvious that she

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>was trying to, you know, show that she was president,

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>that she was interested in him, and he was doing

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>his best to appear to be single like he was not.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>He didn't put his arm around me, he didn't reassure me,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>he didn't do any of those things.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>A lot of peacocking going around. Oh my god, his

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>dick was fucking flailing in the wind normal Double Bay

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday night.

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>So I said to him, I was like, look, I'm

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>feeling a little bit insecure, Like I feel like you're

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>very obviously flirting with this girl and and like I

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 2>would like you to stop, like maybe make me feel

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe make me feel like we're the ones who are

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 2>here together for because we are. I turn around and

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>two seconds later he's dancing with her like she's dry

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 2>humping his leg in front of me, and I was like,

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>what are you actually doing? Like what the fuck is

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.240
<v Speaker 2>going on here? I'm just thinking, what are you actually doing?

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>And he yeah, I know why didn't I leave right crazy?

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And then he turned that around to me and was like,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy, you know you're you're you're so insecure, you're

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the one that has problems. And like going back to this, like, yes,

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I was insecure and I did have problems in that

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 2>relationship one hundred percent, but those problems were founded because

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of his behavior and unlike we've talked about narcissistic personality disorder,

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about gas ladding on this podcast before. I

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.919
<v Speaker 2>really think that like, if you're behaving in a way

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that's not the way that you normally behave in relationships, Like,

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're in a relationship that's making you feel crazy, crazy,

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>jealous to the point where you're blinded by it, you

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>really need to break down and look at the source

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>of where it's coming from. Because it may not be

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 2>that you are crazy. It may be that your relationship

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 2>is really insecure and it's really toxic, and you need

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to have some confidence and make some changes to your life.

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think that you know when you break it down,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>when you're feeling jealous in a relationship, like so much

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>of that comes from a lack of self confidence and

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>a lack of feeling worthy and being scared that maybe

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>your partner is going to find someone better, or find

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>someone funnier, or find someone who they click with more

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 2>than they click with you, And it's that fear that

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe they might leave you, which is what really sparks

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of like, oh, who are you texting?

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing?

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>There are cases, and like we all know that there

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>are cases where where both women and men can fabricate

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>and manifest things that aren't actually there as well. So obviously,

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>when I speak about my experience, it's an isolated case

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>where the jealousy was warranted.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>However, there are cases where.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe your new boyfriend is friends with girls, right,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's got several girlfriends who he's quite close with

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and he chats to, and that in and of itself

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>makes you feel jealous and insecure. Those feelings aren't necessarily warranted,

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>like if he's not doing anything wrong, then then that's

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 2>when you have to really think about the fact that

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe this feeling of jealousy is coming from you, and

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>that you're the one who's creating this and you're the

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>one that's manifesting this. One of the ways to try

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and bridge that divide and kind of break down what

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>seems like this mystery relationship that him and his friend

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>has is you need to get to know the friend.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 2>You need to be included in all aspects of their life,

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 2>you know. And if your boyfriend is really great friends

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>with some hot chicks, like if he's trying to include

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you in that friendship and bring you out, you know,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>when they all go hang out and like introduce you

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and you are able to create a bond and create

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a friendship with them as well, then by just like

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>bridging that divide a little bit, that's what's going to

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 2>help you break down those feelings of jealousy and realize, like, oh,

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>what you have perceived in your mind to be this great,

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>big threat actually a normal person who they are legitimately

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 2>friends with.

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the number one thing to do is just to

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>figure out what you're jealous about, Why you're jealous. Where

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>does this jealousy stem from? Is it warranted or not?

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Is this coming because he's making you feel jealous? Is

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>this coming because you had a really bad, horrific relationship

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>in the past. Is it coming because you don't trust him?

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it coming because you don't trust yourself? Where is

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it stemming from, because you need to be hyper aware

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that if it's not warranted, you need to do something

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>about that, and you need to take full responsibility for that.

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Because if there's nothing that your partner is doing to

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>actually make you jealous and you're still jealous, that is

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>something you need to deal with straight away, or it

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>is your relationship will end because your partner's going to

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>come to a point where they're saying, you've got to

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>let me live my life. I love you and I

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>have done nothing wrong, and you constantly make me feel bad.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Having said that, if your partner is doing the wrong

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>thing and you are feeling like you can't trust him,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 1>then you're feeling like you can't trust him for a reason,

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>usually where there's smoke the fire, and that is something

0:38:58.200 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that you also need to deal with. You need to

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>feel you're okay. No, I actually don't feel secure in

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this relationship, and I don't like that you're talking to

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>this girl without me. There, I don't like that you're

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>meeting up with your female work colleague without me. And

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>then you have an open conversation with your partner and

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you deal with it. If he doesn't want to meet

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you halfway and he doesn't want to accept that you're

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling this way and you're feeling vulnerable, then that's a

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>whole nother ballgame, and that's something you're going to have

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to address together, and you're going to have to decide

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if you actually want to stay in a relationship where

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you feel isn't nurturing what you need and there's no

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>futual respect. So there's so many aspects to it, but

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the first step is figuring out where you're jealousy is

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>coming from and why you're feeling it.

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>If you're in a normal, secure and happy relationship and

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you were to express your feelings to your partner and say, look,

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm feeling really jealous because of your relationship

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 2>that you have with X person, or because of the

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>way your coworker messages you at ten o'clock at night,

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. If you express to your partner why

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you're feeling jealous, like somebody who loves you and somebody

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>who supports you and somebody who's not doing anything wrong

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>will want to reassure you, and they will also like

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>try and understand why you feel the way you feel,

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 2>and they will make steps or try and do things

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 2>to kind of ease that anxiety that you have around it,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and they will respect that conversation.

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I really genuinely think that.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>But if somebody is doing the wrong, or they are defensive,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 2>or they try and gas at you and say like, well,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy, you're making this up, there's not really any

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>room for conversation there. There's not really any room for

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>your feelings to be validated, even if your feelings are wrong,

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>even if they haven't done anything wrong at all. Like,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>one of my best friends is a guy. So if

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt came to me and said, Haila, I'm feeling a

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit insecure about your relationship with Todd. Can we

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>have a chat about it? I would be like, holy shit,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry that you feel like that. Like, obviously,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Todd and I have been friends for ten years. Nothing

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 2>is going on there, Nothing would ever go on there.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I would hope that you would know that. But why

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>don't we all go for dinner? Why don't we go

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>and have drinks? Like, I'm not going to cut him

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>out of my life, I'm not going to stop talking

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to him, but I would make sure that Matt fe

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>secure enough and understood that that friendship as much as

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>it's so important to me, I'm not going to jeopardize

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>my relationship because of my friendship.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just but what you're doing is compromise and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>meeting Matt halfway totally. That's what you need to do. Now,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>have a question for you or you about to say something? Ye, well,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually like when you when you have a person

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>of the opposite sex is a best friend, it always

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 2>triggers some conversation like I have, like, you know, this

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>guy and I we've been friends for a really long time.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Nothing sexual has ever happened. We are only and have

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 2>always been friends. But every single guy I've dated in

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that last ten years has made the comment of like, oh, well,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that if you tried it on, he would

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>go for it. You know, I'm sure that if you

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>were open to it would be accepting of it. And

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, Actually, we have a legitimate friendship where

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 2>we have traveled overseas together, we have gotten drunk together,

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>We've stayed in the same hotel together. Nothing has ever happened,

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 2>nothing would ever happen because we are so like brother

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and sister and platonic in that way. So I do

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 2>think that they're is that little element of jealousy where

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, even for a partner to say, oh, well,

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 2>i'm sure, if I'm sure, if the circumstances were different,

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>something would come out of it. So there is that

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>little tiny questioning and doubt. But as the person as

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 2>me who has that relationship, it's my responsibility to make

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>sure that my partner doesn't feel jealous of that friendship.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>That's really important to me.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and most of my friends. I have so many

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>male friends. I always have. Since I was a kid,

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I always had more male friends than female friends. I

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was such a tomboy. I did all the boy sports,

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 1>and I just feel like I get along with them better,

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they get me better, and I know that that will

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>one day become an issue even with some people I've dated.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I have a photo of me my best friend in

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>my room that he gave me. It's us at the

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>beach together. Look, I'm like, sure, we probably always look

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like a couple, but it's because we've been best friends

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>for so long, nothing has ever happened. And he was

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a bit like, oh, like, what's what's the photo for?

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And he was feeling insecure, and I was like, oh,

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it's my best friend literally best friends. For ages explained

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 1>it tried to make him feel okay about it, but

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I could see within him he was a bit like, sure,

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing's happened. Yeah, but that was just early days, and

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be an issue for me one day,

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>for sure. I feel like people are gonna question it.

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>But I will never ever stop a friendship with someone

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that I have been long term friends with because my

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>partner is jealous. What I will do is, like you said,

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and just try and bridge the gap, make them friends,

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>make us all friends, make it realize that there's no threat.

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 1>My question to you is what would bother you more

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>or what do you feel like you would be more

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>jealous of physical intimacy, like your partner cheating on you,

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>or your partner cheating with like emotional intimacy. So I'm

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>mad cheating or physic I know, and I'm putting it

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>only because I have read a study on it and

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I found it interesting. So I want to know what

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are.

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that they both fucking suck. I think as

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>someone who's been cheated on in my past relationships, I

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>find it really really hard to overcome. And I think

0:43:56.080 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>that the physical cheating for me unfolds the emotional cheating,

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>so it's like they go hand in hand, so I

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 2>can't say one of them is worse than the other.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I think emotional cheating is horrendous because it really starts

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:12.439
<v Speaker 2>to degrade and disintegrate your relationship because you think, well,

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>we have this special connection, but now you have a

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>special connection with someone else. However, physical cheating for me,

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I start to second guess everything. I then question where

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 2>they are when they say they're somewhere, I then feel.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I can't pick one. They're both fucking suck.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>So for me, mine is what I think is worse

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is emotional cheating. And I know, like a lot of

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people gonna disagree with me. That's also fine. Like it

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>seems from your explanation, Laura, that like the physical thing

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>is what stabs you in the heart more, the emotional

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>thing for me is what stabs me in the heart more.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the physical thing, I know, the thing is.

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>The emotional thing gets me like and absolutely destroying. But

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 2>like the physical thing, for me, it erodes the relationship.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I think I can get over it, but I

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 1>don't think I.

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Ever actually fully forgive or fully rebuild trust. So every

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 2>time I have been cheated on in a relationship, I've

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>always tried to make it work, but in the end,

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, months down the track or

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 2>yearsed down the track, I've never fully gotten over it,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and I always hold some resentment. And I think if

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 2>you've if you've gone through cheating in your relationship and

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to work through it, you have to get

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to a point eventually where you don't hold animosity to

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>it and you don't hold resentment because it just erodes

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 2>your relationship.

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, So, there was a study published in the Evolutionary

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Psychology in a two thousand and four journal that when

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>asked about sexual versus emotional infidelity, respondents of both sexes

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>reported they were more jealous about their partner's emotional infidelity. Now,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this for me, I was like one hundred percent. So

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>my sociopath X literally fucked like hundreds of girls, like

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 1>it was like always having And I found that out later.

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But he was always having these sexual relationships with people

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>were that meant nothing to him, but he was just

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>doing it because he needed it. Then I found out

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>he had this other relationship with someone for six years.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>That was emotional, and I've read the messages of him

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>saying I love you so much, I'm starting his life

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with you. And the bit that bothered me was reading

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>his emotional connection to her not pow. I couldn't even.

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even it didn't even register on my radar

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>that he'd had sex with all these people, because I

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, my god, you were so in love

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and obsessed and had this emotional connection with someone else,

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's one hundred percent what I was more

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>jealous of than a physical thing. And I found that

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>really weird because I was like, why aren't you caring

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>about all the people if my sisters, why an't you

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>caring about the people he slept with? And I'm like,

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I care about them, for sure, But in my mind,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, you had sex with someone. You never

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>thought her again about it again, it was a physical thing.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't even pick her out of a lineup, but

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you were invested in this person and like you were

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:49.240
<v Speaker 1>planning a life with them, and you know, you literally

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>loved them. So I think personally in a relationship, and

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously this study agrees that that is more powerful, and

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I think That's where things really do start to unwind,

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>is when you've seen that someone else their heart is

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>with someone else as well. I think that's where it

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>really drives home.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 2>This kind of leads us into this conversation about retrospective jealousy.

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>So I mentioned what it is.

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>It's when and like I have felt this, guys, it's

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>when you're jealous. You're in a happy relationship, you're in

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a healthy relationship, but you're jealous of your partner's X,

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and like you can become obsessed with your partner's ex.

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 2>This idea comes from like the fantasy that maybe they

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>love they love them more, or maybe there was something

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>there that's unfinished, or maybe you know, they talked about

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>how you know, that was the person who the only

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>other person that they've loved in their life and they

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 2>thought they were going to get married, but for whatever reason,

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>it didn't work out, and so you become obsessed with

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 2>this thought that like, well, maybe I'm not as good

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 2>as them, Maybe if circumstances were different, he would still

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>be with them, And so, like, you can really go

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 2>down a pretty bad rabbit hole with retrospective jealousy. Have

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you ever experienced this, Like, have you ever like had

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend and been like feelings or like wanting to

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>check up his ex or look at his ex on

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 2>social media and then being like, fuck, she's really pretty

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and then being like, well maybe I'm not as pretty

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>as her, and then going down that rabbit hole like

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 2>have you ever done this? I feel like this is

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>so common. I mean, I'm hoping this is so cool.

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's actually completely I don't think this

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>comes into a jealousy thing. This category for like normal relationships.

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's super normal when you meet someone dating

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>someone early stages to have an interest in like, Okay,

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>who were you in love with before? Like who was

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it that took your fancy for all those years? What

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>did she look like? Why? What's so good about her?

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it's normal to just like want to see

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>what she looks like and check her out. But I

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>don't do it anymore because I did it once. I've

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing this guy I really liked in London. He was incredible.

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I looked up I didn't and I mean I thought

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>he was wonderful. I didn't know a lot about him.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Was three months, we were just chilling. I looked up

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>his after three months I looked up his ex and

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I'm not kidding. She was from Malibu.

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>She was like a supermodel, legitimate. She was actually quite failing.

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Carless is not helping my insecurities. Now, she's actually quite famous.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And then as soon as I looked at her the

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>relationship was fine. I was like, well, fuck, well, he's

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>never gonna like me, when really he did like me

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>because we were seeing each other. But then I got

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in my own head. I got insecure because she was

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>beautiful and stunning and they were together for three years,

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and I ruined the relationship. So I actually pro am

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>proactive about trying not to look at people's past anymore.

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 2>It's really funny, isn't it, Because it's one of those

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 2>things that's like a total catch twenty two Because when

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you start dating someone, you want to feel like you

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 2>know them and you're connected to them, and like that

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 2>you know every single thing about them, so you ask

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 2>lots of questions. I mean, I know I do, like

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I ask looks of questions about their ex'es. I ask

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 2>lots of questions about their relationships because I want to

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to understand what has made them the person

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that they are but then when I find out that

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 2>they have had these like strong connections or relationships or

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 2>like you know, these feelings in the past, then there's

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 2>a little part of me that's like, oh, is mine

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 2>as good? Is what we have as good? Is there

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.359
<v Speaker 2>a reason why you're not with her anymore? Like did

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 2>she break up with you and then leave you heartbroken?

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And are you over it? Or there's just this little

0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 2>bit of nigglingness that happens. And for me, like I

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I know now that that's that's an insecurity of mine,

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, and we always say like comparison is

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the thief of joy. There is like me comparing myself

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and thinking maybe I'm not good enough, or maybe they're

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>they're dating down now that they're dating me. So when

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Matt and I started dating, I was bad to say,

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 2>did you look up Matt xes?

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>So? Well?

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I think like the really important thing is keeping in

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 2>perspective this whole idea of bridging the divide that I

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of mentioned earlier. When you don't know someone and

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>you like you can fantasize that they're much better and

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 2>much more interesting and much more beautiful or amazing than

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>what they necessarily are, and not that they not, that

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 2>they're not like I take that back. Sorry, you fantasize

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.959
<v Speaker 2>that they're almost unhuman because you don't you haven't met them,

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Like right, you haven't seen them in real life. You

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't had a human conversation with a normal person. So

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>when we were going through the show, and like the

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 2>show was on TV and everything, and like, obviously Matt

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and I were together, but like no one knew.

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>We were together.

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<v Speaker 2>There was always articles that were coming out about who

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<v Speaker 2>Matt had dated in the past, and like these are

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 2>mas x'es, and so I know that Matt has had

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 2>two significant relationships and he's been very much in love

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in one relationship and it didn't work out obviously. Yeah,

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Its cause I saw these photos in a Daily Mail

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>article where it was like here in Matt's two ex'es

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 2>and they're both beautiful and they're both like I looked

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>at them and I was like, holy wow, Okay, they

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 2>are really really hot and why is he dating me?

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And also because you know, people would then comment and

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess my relationship being so public, there was a

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of external conversation around like oh, well, you know,

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 2>as if he's going to be dating Laura now like

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I would read comments like that, and that really cemented

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 2>my insecurity. So anyway, fast forward to when the show's over,

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 2>we're actually together. So weirdly, I have now met both

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 2>of Matt's exes, Like one of them I met at

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>a party because he's really great friends with her brother,

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and the other one I actually went to her wedding

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and was invited to her wedding, And neither of them.

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Now do I feel insecure about for any reason or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But for a little while there, I really felt jealous

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.959
<v Speaker 2>that maybe what he had before our relationship was better

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 2>than what he had now, and I really like second

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>guess myself and felt like I would compare and I

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 2>would kind of like look at Instagram and I would like,

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, look at social media and stuff. And also

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 2>because like one of them has a very big public profile,

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I just felt like I wasn't good enough. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>it came from. And I know that this is my

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<v Speaker 2>total insecurity. It was nothing that Matt ever did. Matt

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 2>never ever, I mean they're not in contact. Matt never

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of played into it. He would tell me

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>things because I would ask questions, but then it was

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.439
<v Speaker 2>like me shooting myself in the foot because I'd ask

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a question and then it would make me upset the answer,

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 2>so then that would kind of put me down the

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.320
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole a little bit more. But there was definitely

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>a time there where I was like a bit jealous

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of his exes, which is weird. It's a weird thing,

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 2>but I think that so many women go through this

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's this comparison and it's a lack of self confidence,

0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot of jealousy stems from a

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>lack of self confidence.

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, just not gonna help the fact, but

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I have seen Matt's xs they how beautiful, cannot but

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I've also seen you, and you are beautiful. And this

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 1>is what it comes down to. Right, you are sitting

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>next to Matt, you own a relationship with Matt, You're

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>with your partner, and you're jealous of someone that he

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>used to be with that didn't work out for whatever reason,

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they didn't choose each other. And this is what I

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think people need to realize. If you're experience this, if

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>you are experiencing this, and you are experiencing these like

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 1>awful jealous feelings of your partner's ex you have to

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>stop and think about who is sitting next to him

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>right now, who he has chosen, and why he has

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>chosen you. Obviously, it doesn't matter how beautiful they are.

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And I could have told myself this years ago, just

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because their X is a supermodel that's rich and beautiful.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Sports Illustrated magazine.

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:54.720
<v Speaker 1>But like, exactly, I've ruined that relationship because I couldn't

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>accept that he chose me. I was like, well, he's

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna choose me, Like, no, he did. He chose

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and I ruined the whole thing. So I think you

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>guys have to really think, well, I'm the person here

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>like Matt chose you, So I hope now, oh my god,

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't interfer any Yeah, because they're fucking hot. No

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for brand. I don't at all, and not

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:15.919
<v Speaker 2>even an inkling of it now. But what I'm trying

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to get at is like, it is a common feeling,

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and this comparison that we can draw at the beginning

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship is something that I think a lot

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 2>of women and men do you know, when you start

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 2>dating someone new, you look up their exes, and then

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it can be easy to think and to kind of

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like immortalize their ex to being something that's greater than

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>what it really is, or immortalize that relationship. And I

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>genuinely think, and this is like my biggest kind of

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 2>point to take from this whole thing, is like, if

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you have self confidence in yourself, if you believe in

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 2>what you bring to a relationship, if you like show

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>up to that relationship and you're like, no, I am

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>worthy of this, like I love you, you love me.

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I am a great catch, and we are equals, then

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of jealousy will subside. I think it's when

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>there is a imbalance in your brain and when you're

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking that somebody is better than you and you're saying like, oh,

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not good enough of this, and it's this feeling

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 2>of insecurity and this feeling of not being good enough,

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 2>which is where that jealousy comes from. Everybody is entitled

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 2>to have a past. Every single person has a history.

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, we're thirty four. Of course, we're

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 2>both we have both been in love before, We've both

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 2>had significant relationships. We have both had times in our

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:26.359
<v Speaker 2>life where we thought, fuck, maybe I'm going to marry

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 2>this person and then we didn't. And now we're together.

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Everybody is entitled to have their past, and if you

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>hold that against your partner, if you punish them or

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you make yourself crazy about it, then the only person

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>who's going to suffer in this relationship is you, and

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that's going to suffer is your relationship.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's run through some signs of retroactive jealousy.

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 2>If you're talking their Instagram fifty four times a day,

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure you've got retroactive jealousy.

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, got it. No, If you ask your partner a

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions about their past constantly, not just when

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you get together, but throughout your relationship. One year in

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>two years and you're constantly wanting to know about people

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>in their past, that's a sign replaying the same jealous

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>thoughts as almost like a mental movie going through your head,

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 1>so it's all of a sudden all you think about

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 1>is all consuming. That's also a sign. Find yourself trawling Yep,

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we know. Don't stalk someone. If you're stalking them constantly,

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you're jealous.

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Also, make sure that you don't hit friend request. Don't

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 2>hit the friend.

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Request guys, if you've gotta store them, be careful put

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 1>your fat fingers away. All right, so you figured out

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you're a jealous little fucker. What do you do now?

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>There are a few steps. First, literally accept and validate

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 1>your feelings. Jealous is normal. It's a normal feeling. But

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you just need to figure out is it you? Is

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it because you don't feel good enough? Is it them?

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Where are these feelings coming from? Once you literally accept

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that the feeling's there, you've broken down what you have

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 1>the tools to start to go down the path of

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>fixing it.

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think like the next thing as well, is

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like having really open channels of communication with your partner,

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 2>explaining that you feel the way that you feel, even

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 2>if even if the way that you feel isn't rational,

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Having a conversation with your partner and saying I know

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that you've done nothing wrong, I know that this is

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 2>completely unwarranted, but I feel like this.

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>At least, then.

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.279
<v Speaker 2>You're kind of offloading that a little bit, and you're

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:06.959
<v Speaker 2>allowing your partner to understand why maybe you've been acting

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.280
<v Speaker 2>in a way or lashing out at him, or doing

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 2>things that is not how you would normally behave and

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>hopefully if they are respectful and loving towards you, they

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>will try and like, ease your insecurities. They will try

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and help you as much as this is on you

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to figure out yourself, like, they will do what they

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 2>can to help you get to a place where you

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>feel less jealous.

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Resist the urge to dig and pry into your partner's past.

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>So normal just to want to have a look at

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 1>what they look like, that's fine, but don't start going

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 1>into that person's life. What do they do on the weekends.

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't start reading their messages, don't start looking at tagged

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>photos of them. Nothing good can come of that. Nothing

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>good is going to come from living in a past,

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>well the past in general, but a past that's not

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>even yours. He's like, why would you live in that situation?

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>So you need to resist the urge to go and

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>do that, really try to be present in your relationship

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in that moment and deal with the here and the now.

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's a huge, huge one. Don't go trawling because

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a bloody deep dark web and you will end

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>up in like nineteen seventy three on their grandma's page,

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and you can't do that.

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>But also you will end up finding things that maybe

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you think they're suspicious, and they may have a completely

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 2>innocent answer to them, but because you're already of the

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>mindset that they're doing something wrong or that you're feeling jealous,

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 2>it'll spiral those thoughts even more so, Like, just don't

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>put yourself into a situation where you are fueling that

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>energy and you're fueling the flame that you know and

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 2>you're making up stories that aren't necessarily even true.

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, the communication is a big one, and I am

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you something like a way that's a psychologist,

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a relationship psychologist. She gave an example on how you

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>can approach the situation because there's one thing to say,

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be open and communicate, which is important, but there are

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 1>also so many levels of communication. You can't go in

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles an hour crazy accusing your partner of

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>all these things and asking all these things, putting stress

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and pressure on them, or it will implode. But she

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gives an example of saying, approach it respectfully by using

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>statements that have I in them, so focusing on your

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 1>feelings instead of things that they have done. For example,

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you could say, sometimes I feel worried that you'll move

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>on from me, because I believe you could date anyone

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you wanted, instead of saying you make me feel like

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this because you don't give me enough attention that if

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you wered it that way by putting it them and

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 1>using the words you, you, you, you, they're going to

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 1>feel attacked and they're going to get on the defensive.

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>But so you don't I feel like this because I

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like you could do anything you want. I feel

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>like you're so amazing that I worry someone else will

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>scoop you up.

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm all for being honest, having open channels of communication,

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 2>but I kind of think I don't want my partner

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 2>to talk to me in a way where they're like,

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.919
<v Speaker 2>you're so great and I'm insecure because I don't feel

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 2>good enough. Not as much as like, yes, I want

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to reassure them, but I would get pretty fucking tired

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 2>of that narrative eventually, because I want to partner who

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 2>knows that they're my equal, who feels like they're my equal.

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that's like almost a dang drus

1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:03.560
<v Speaker 2>place to stay in. If you're constantly saying you're so

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>great and I'm not good enough for you, your partner's

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 2>going to end up believing it at some point. So

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I think, be careful with that conversation. It's okay to

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 2>have that conversation once or twice. Explain why you're feeling insecure,

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:16.960
<v Speaker 2>but you are good enough. That's why you're in the relationship.

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Like you need to believe that, and you instead of

1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 2>constantly verbalizing that you don't feel good enough, you need

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to start internalizing that you are fucking good enough.

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's really important. The idea of this conversation is

1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it is once this is your conversation at the start, well,

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, yeah, you have it at the start, but

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the idea is you approach it with sensitivity and you

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.440
<v Speaker 1>say instead of attacking them by saying you, you just

1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>say I just I feel like this because of this,

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and they give you their explanation, and then the idea

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is you move on. It's just supposed to be. So

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a sensitive way to approach your partner without making

1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:47.960
<v Speaker 1>them feel like you're putting everything on them, because ultimately,

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in retrospective jealousy, you physically cannot go and attack them

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:55.680
<v Speaker 1>because they have done nothing wrong. They've done this before

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you physically knew them.

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It becomes exhausting constantly trying to make someone feel better

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<v Speaker 2>when the way they feel is not rational, So like,

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<v Speaker 2>be very careful. If you have realized and you have

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<v Speaker 2>reduced it down and you know that you're the one

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<v Speaker 2>that has the issue and it's not necessarily your partner's behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're the one that needs to make changes and

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<v Speaker 2>you're the one that needs to really go about some

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<v Speaker 2>self development and some self discovery. Go and speak to

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<v Speaker 2>a therapist, go and speak to a counselor really hash

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<v Speaker 2>out where this insecurity comes from. Maybe it has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with your attachment styles, which is a whole other

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<v Speaker 2>episode that we did a few weeks back, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting and it talks about like the different ways

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<v Speaker 2>that you connect and attached to your partner. But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's other reasons in your childhood, in your upbringing, in

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<v Speaker 2>your past relationships that's created trauma that is what fills

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<v Speaker 2>you with this insecurity and this jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing to really remember is that every single

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is going to come with its ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 1>and every relationship is scary and comes with its own risk.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be successful and it might be forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>also it might not and it might end. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can guarantee is by constantly bringing up past issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pushing it down the going to end path. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got this fifty to fifty risk. Right, I could

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<v Speaker 1>make this thrive live now, put all my energy into

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<v Speaker 1>making it positive and growing. Or I could sit here

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<v Speaker 1>and dwell on a pass that I was not a

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<v Speaker 1>part of, dwell on a past that was before my time,

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<v Speaker 1>and just bring negative energy into the relationship. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can assure you you're gonna go down the path of

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<v Speaker 1>breaking up, so you may as well thrive on the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Put all that energy and channel into focusing on your

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<v Speaker 1>hearing now and growing into a really healthy, positive direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that this goes for everything, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you are realizing that you're in a relationship where

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get past something, and maybe it is your issue,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't get past the fact that maybe your

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<v Speaker 2>partner cheated in past relationships, or you can't get past

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that your partner is super close to someone

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not doing anything to try and appease or

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<v Speaker 2>ease your insecurity around that. If you physically can't get

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<v Speaker 2>past it, then it's on you to potentially leave that

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and find a relationship where you do feel more

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<v Speaker 2>secure in You can't change your partner. You can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>him or her that they cannot speak to someone. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't control their behavior because as soon as you go

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<v Speaker 2>down that path, I mean like I've tried. I definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>in my really toxic past relationship, tried to control his behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was. We had rules around like what

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<v Speaker 2>was like acceptable and not acceptable because of him cheating

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<v Speaker 2>and me trying to control that outcome and stop it

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<v Speaker 2>from happening again. And all I can say is like

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<v Speaker 2>you can lay all the rules down, you can try

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<v Speaker 2>as hard as you can to try and make somebody

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<v Speaker 2>behave the way you want them to behave. Unless they

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<v Speaker 2>fucking want to do that, they're never going to. So

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<v Speaker 2>just be really conscious that if there's something happening in

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<v Speaker 2>your relationship that you cannot get past and you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to get better for your own mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe that's the point where you have to go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't the relationship for me, because I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to live my life like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last sort of thing I want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on is we've basically spoken this whole time about if

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling these feelings, if you're in a relationship now

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this, and you know that your partner is

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing this, And this is your partner that's constantly questioning

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<v Speaker 1>you and worried about your past, and he can't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with you because he's disgusted by the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a sexual partner. Which that might sound crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but that happens a lot. Literally, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to first know that A it's not your fault, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you've done. B. All you can do in this

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<v Speaker 1>situation is offer him or her love, compassion, support, reassurance,

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<v Speaker 1>make them feel like it's okay and that you love them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they have to seek help with speaking to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>because if this is a real serious problem for them,

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<v Speaker 1>they will never get past Nothing you can ever do

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<v Speaker 1>is going to help them get past it, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can only tell them so many times that yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a relationship before, but I don't think about them

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<v Speaker 1>and I love you. There's only so many times before

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna rea relationship down. They have to seek help.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not really another option. They need to go and

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<v Speaker 1>speak to a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And like we've just been talking specifically about relationships as

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<v Speaker 2>in antique relationships. But like you guys know, and like

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<v Speaker 2>we know, like jealousy can rear its head in so

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<v Speaker 2>many different ways. Like I mean, I'm sure that most

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<v Speaker 2>girls out there have been I'm sure that there are

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of girls out there who've experienced this where maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you have a best friend and then either you've become

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<v Speaker 2>close to someone else or they've become close to someone

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<v Speaker 2>else and you feel jealous of their new friendship. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's another form of jealousy that's super common. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think at the end of the day, the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we have to keep note of and be really

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<v Speaker 2>really cognizant of is like you cannot control other people

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that they want to live their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't control the people who they come in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with, the people that they're speaking with. Everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>free to act and behave and live their life in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way they want to. The only thing you can

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<v Speaker 2>control is your reaction to someone. If that reaction is

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<v Speaker 2>to feel really jealous, and that reaction is a really

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<v Speaker 2>negative one, then that's for you to work on, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's for you to try and sort through that jump,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going to end up disintegrating.

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<v Speaker 1>That relationship even more.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, guys, you know that we never finish an

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<v Speaker 2>episode with about our suck and our sweet, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is our highlight and our low light of each and

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<v Speaker 2>every week. Pretty what fucking sucked about your life this week?

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<v Speaker 2>So my second sweet is actually super easy this week.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know every week I get here and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>My suck is that I went to Port mcruary on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, which is also gonna be my sweet. But

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Port McQuary and I came back and

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<v Speaker 1>I got back. I drove back late last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of work to do for the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast over and overnight, and I woke up this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>went to come here, and my laptop's on like minimal charge,

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<v Speaker 1>which I never let happen. I'm like, cool, throw it

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<v Speaker 1>on the charger. I left my charge at Port McQuary,

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<v Speaker 1>and which is disaster because this whole podcast is done

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<v Speaker 1>from the computer, and well, like my whole life in

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<v Speaker 1>general is done, and my whole life is on his computer.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm two percent from dying and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm to do. I mean, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I can do. I can go buy one, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Girlfriend, you're in the red. But also like, okay, Britta

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<v Speaker 2>knows about me. I'm someone who lives with all of

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<v Speaker 2>my my phone, my laptop, everything is always in the red.

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<v Speaker 2>So I never go and pick up my charger or

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<v Speaker 2>to put my laptop on charge until I'm like on

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<v Speaker 2>four percent battery, like I really like to push it to.

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<v Speaker 1>The end of the nth goal.

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<v Speaker 2>And there has been so many times where it's been

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<v Speaker 2>like eleven o'clock at night and I've been editing for

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<v Speaker 2>like the episode to come out. The next day, I

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<v Speaker 2>go to plug my laptop in and I'm like, my

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<v Speaker 2>fucking charge is at work, and the then I have

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<v Speaker 2>to drive into Paddington, which is like, look, it's not far,

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<v Speaker 2>but at eleven o'clock at night, the last thing you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do is run around trying to find a charger.

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<v Speaker 1>She should just be in your handbag. She also feels

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<v Speaker 1>the need and no matter what time it is, to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that that's what she's doing. So I has

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<v Speaker 1>like eleven thirty nine, She's like fucking going back in

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<v Speaker 1>to work together. Anyway, I have actually never met anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. Every time I see Laura every time.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's eight am, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>if it's midday or if it's eight pm at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Her phone is perpetually what's it on now? Percent? Perpetually?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you ever charge your phone? I have

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<v Speaker 1>never seen it a more five percent? I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you live like this? It's probably the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>makes me the most anxious about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I constantly have a phone that's run out

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<v Speaker 2>about you. Nobody understands it. I also have I also

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<v Speaker 2>have two thousand, sorry, not two thousand. I also have

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven nine hundred unready fail.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I get that. I have about ten thousand. But

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<v Speaker 1>like that's fine. I just put those to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're constant. I'm about to run out of bat

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<v Speaker 1>trae thing? Does my heading? All? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>What was your sweet? Well, we know you're sweet? Was

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<v Speaker 2>Port Macquors sweet?

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<v Speaker 1>It went to Port. The weather was absolutely incredible, The

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<v Speaker 1>beaches were incredible. No one was there. My whole family

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<v Speaker 1>was there. We partied, we drunk. No one was there.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole family was there. Like the beaches, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to the beach there and you cannot see someone

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<v Speaker 1>for a kilometer because there's so many long stretches of

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<v Speaker 1>beaches there. It's beautiful. I loved it. I'm regenerated and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back. How was your nana's hangover? She was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her in the morning for Brecky. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the best time last night.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh Na, not so loud. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the same thing when you get old. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're like eighteen, hangovers don't affect you, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when you're like eighty eight, hangovers don't affect you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your old has already packed up and got She was

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<v Speaker 1>down in the whites too, and White's the biggest hangover drink.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, watch your suck.

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<v Speaker 2>My suck is very trivial. My suck is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I cannot and I have completely relinquished this. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I've given up. I cannot keep a clean house. I

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<v Speaker 2>spent all day last Thursday cleaning my house from top

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<v Speaker 2>to bottom. It was incredible. It could have been from

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<v Speaker 2>a really shitty, ugly Vogue magazine shoot that someone would

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<v Speaker 2>be very disappointed to shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>But still it was clean. The house was fucking clean.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, honestly, I just don't know what happens, like

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<v Speaker 2>I do not I know, I know what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a one year old, but it's just two

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<v Speaker 1>one year olds. Let's be real.

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<v Speaker 2>I have one year old and then I have a

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<v Speaker 2>one year old that's in the form of a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't keep a clean house and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>me really down sometimes, and today it got me down.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I don't know what to tell you. That sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just see all these people on Instagram who

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<v Speaker 2>have children and their house is immaculate and everything is

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<v Speaker 2>styled nicely, and their kids are dressed nicely and everything

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<v Speaker 2>looks perfect, and I know it's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not real. You know that behind that camera, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that what you're seeing is immaculate, behind that camera

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<v Speaker 1>is like three menu pile of rubbish. They've just pushed

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the frame.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and I know I know this, like I

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<v Speaker 2>live this life, like I know the Instagram is not real.

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<v Speaker 2>But still it doesn't mean that I don't see it

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes and go like, oh fuck, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 2>my shit together a little bit more. But speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>having my shit together, my suite for this week is

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<v Speaker 2>that I really feel like We've been kicking some massive

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<v Speaker 2>goals for Tony May, and I was having this wild

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety around how I was going to be a full

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<v Speaker 2>time work like, how was I going to run a

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<v Speaker 2>company and also be a mum to two kids? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is going to be a very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting part of life. But I'm starting to feel really

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<v Speaker 2>good about it. I'm like, I think, oh, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you feel about this is my anxiety. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think we're going to be fine. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>really really proud of how things are going with work,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we've been kicking some big goals and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel a lot more settled about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that my life is going to be thrown into utter

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<v Speaker 2>chaos in a few months time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you. Thank you continue to take that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling into the future. Thank you.

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