WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR - KIRBY 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:02.920 TV Reload. 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.440 The podcast last week. Thereby, Hey guys, welcome back to 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.200 TV Reload. I want to thank you for clicking and downloading. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.959 On today's episode with Kirby, the now fifth place contestant 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.880 from this year's Australian Survivor, which is obviously on Network ten, 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.560 I will be talking to Kirby about her time in 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.079 Samoa and of course what she thinks now that the 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.320 smoke has well and truly been snuffed out on her torch. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.280 Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels has been a showdown that 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.120 pits the winners against the underdogs and the big wigs 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.000 against the battlers, with each player competing for the grand 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.280 prize of half a million dollars. Kirby is from the 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.680 hometown of Melbourne, Victoria. A strategic aggressive player right from 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:46.159 the start, Kirby used her social abilities to arrange numerous 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.720 blindsides to further herself in the game, though her unpredictability 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.879 caused her to be embroiled in a rivalry with Ferris. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.960 After laying low during the early merge, her strategic position 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.840 saw a resurgence and she initiated a true with Ferris, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.800 realizing the mutual benefit of his alliance, laying down their swords. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.039 Kirby and Ferris proceeded to dominate the end game until 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.440 Kirby's target became too great to overlook, forcing her to 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.480 win the remaining immunity challenge to save herself. But unfortunately, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.320 when she lost the immunity challenge in the final five, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.399 she was voted out unanimously for being the biggest threat 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.039 in the game. We will unpack Kirby and Ferris's relationship 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.040 once and for all and find out where their relationship 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.840 is at now. Kirby will break down the resume of 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.520 the remaining players and gives us some exclusive details on 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.320 the hot topics. Back at the Jury Villa, I will 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.760 ask about Kirby's prior relationship with a Forma Survivor legend 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.280 and how much of his season did she watch prior 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.200 to signing up. Plus, we'll get some insights on how 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.880 those pieces to camera are made and how that affects 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.400 the castaway's decisions moving forward. There's actually so much to 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.360 unpack with Kirby, and she is so much fun to 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.840 talk with, which I kind of already knew so sit 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.720 back and relax as we dive just that little bit 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.680 deeper into the world of Australian Survivor. How are you mate? 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.560 You Well, yeah, yeah, good, good, big air last night, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.919 but I'm alright. The family's not so good there in morning, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.920 but it's sommert It's all right. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.880 How do you keep something like this a secret? Because 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.440 it would be very difficult. I guess you'd want to 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.919 be tempted into telling people what had happened in Samoa, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.720 but you know you've got these NDAs and you can't 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.040 tell anyone. How did you go trying to keep all 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:28.800 of this a secret? 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:29.280 Well? 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.760 I wanted them to just experience it for themselves. I 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.160 wanted them to go on their own journey, and I 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.880 was curious about the way that they sort of thought 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.640 about the game and the way that they saw me 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:40.200 play it. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.919 And what they thought was going to happen. So yeah, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:42.840 I kept tight lit. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.680 Well, you played a sensational game, my friend, Oh my god, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.040 like just so incredible. I think you will always be 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.679 remembered as one of the most recognizable players that we've 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.919 ever seen in Australian Survivor, which is a win in itself. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.440 You know that's such a huge compliment. Yeah, and I'm 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.720 so grateful to hear that too. Like, I've never watched 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.720 a game before playing. I work with Luke Toki, and 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.919 when he got on the show, I try to watch 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.440 an episode, but I think it's just in my nature. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.960 I need to do something to actually learn about what 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.919 it is that this is all about. So hence the 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.040 rookie move of sitting on the fence with Peter. I 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.560 was already sitting in a majority, so I'll learned my lessons. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.440 But I saw it as a small scale of what 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.040 society is, and that's how I Yeah, that's how I 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.040 sort of approached the game. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.200 It's really interesting though, because I've actually think that in 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.880 a couple of years time, people will remember you being 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.360 the winner. You know. That sort of happens to people, 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.920 and throughout the history of covering reality television, it's so 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.080 often when I talk to the fans of shows that 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.200 the most prevalent or prominent player that stays in the 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.360 mind ends up becoming remembered as being the winner. It's crazy. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.720 Yeah, well, maybe I'll be there when as in their eyes, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.240 which is I think what my family believes in now. No, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.880 but it was an incredible experience. Like, I loved it. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:56.720 It was so cool. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.400 How are you feeling now that you've had some time 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.800 to let the dust settle a little bit, because I 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.680 can imagine at the time of being eliminated it would 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.360 feel different to how it feels now. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:13.880 Yeah, I understood why Ferris saved himself because I've made 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.400 one last reach, I guess to touch his ego and 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.359 just say no one wants to stand next to me, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.479 and for him to say I'm not scared to I 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.640 thought I had him. Thought he was going to like, 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.039 I'll show you what I'm talking about and play it 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.280 for me. But he looked over at the jury and 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.359 he might have just sensed that maybe it's not the 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.000 way that he was seeing it, which is obviously the result. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.800 But Yeah, when I walked away, I was just so 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.159 happy with the whole experience. I was so grateful to 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.000 be out there and to be playing this game, and 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.240 I played without any sort of regrets. I just loved it. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.400 One of the best things that you did. And it 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.480 was interesting because it did polarize viewers at times, But 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.440 for me, I always got this sense that you were 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.080 enjoying yourself because you were smiling, and it was really interesting. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:57.960 And I don't know how much you read about what 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.120 people thought about you smiling online, because people either took 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.880 it as arrogance or confidence or just that you were 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.040 enjoying yourself, which is how I saw it. Did you 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.679 see that conversation online and what did you think watching 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.000 it back saying that you were smiling so often through 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:12.800 you know the ups and downs. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.760 Yeah, I heard about it because people would send it 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.360 and then they'd get on the defensive like, well that's 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.600 their opinion, like it is what it is, But I 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.039 loved it. Like, like I said, I didn't watch the game, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.800 so I didn't understand what the expectations were. I didn't 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.760 understand what the norm was. To be able to play 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.719 this game as well, and for me, the Peter vote 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.359 and to be able to do a blindside with the 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.080 first ever move without any having any sort of idea 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:36.960 what that even meant. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.039 That was massive. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.200 So I got this excitement, and every time I went 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.599 to tribal Council, it's like going to a Grand final 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.280 and you didn't know what was going to happen, but 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.400 I was so pumped for it, So that's why I 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.720 was smiling so much, and yeah, I was just loving it. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.680 I think some sort of having a background of sporting 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.200 attitude as well can really help with a game like this. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:54.600 You know. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.880 Yeah, it's interesting because like with sport, the common goal 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.320 is a Premiership, so we're all they're focused on that 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.400 and we're all trying to make it all work together, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.599 Whereas I found Survivors so much like working for a 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.080 corporation or like a project where your drivers are all different, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.520 like family, they need to raise money to buy a house. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.800 Some people are in debt and they need to do that, 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.240 so all of their drivers create a different way of 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.960 approaching the outcome. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.640 And that's similar to Survivor. So my game plan and what. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.440 I want the people that I want to work with 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.599 might not work for real Scottie, So I need to 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.800 figure out what does that look like and how do 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.120 we all get on the same page so we stay. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:36.680 Tight in aligned. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.360 Well, I feel like this job, the resume for you 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.400 could probably get you some really good work after this, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.680 because while some people can play Australian Survivor and then 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.320 afterwards maybe someone might not employ them because they come 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.680 across as a bit dodgy, or they come across like 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.760 they did the wrong thing for you. I feel like 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.480 people want to snap you up now and be like, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.680 she's the CEO of my business. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.320 Oh well, I. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.240 Hope so, because I'm half a million dollars short in 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.040 my bank accounts. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.599 Know what they say Kirby, though, is that when something 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.599 like that doesn't happen, it comes around it in another way. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.440 And so I think it's important to feel like that. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.560 And I genuinely feel like I'm going to have a 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.240 conversation with you randomly in five years and you are 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.160 going to have that half a million dollars in your 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.800 bank account. I can feel it whole fingers crossed. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.240 I hope it du But no, that's not why I 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.120 actually applied to play the game. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.560 So I wanted to challenge myself. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.440 I wanted I was a little bit platted in where 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.120 I was at in my life and football and netball, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.720 you know, challenge me and push my limits and an 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.280 ability to do something. But yeah, I got to the 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.160 stage where I was like, I want to do something different, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.200 and I saw this on LinkedIn, so I applied and 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.160 I was like, oh, this would be fun, Like as 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.040 long as I don't get voted out first, I'm like 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.400 I'm cool, Like I'm good. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:47.440 So as a. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.520 Competitor in me like sort of came to play. It 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.320 was back into the game where I was like, I'm 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.000 actually in a pretty good position here, like I could 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.280 take this out. So yeah, it wasn't about money. It 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.840 was there was a bigger sort of driver behind it all. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.920 You guys do a fair amount of chatting to those 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.880 pieces to camera, and you know you're in some of 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.760 for a long time, and you know, you do get 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.840 taken away from the campsite to be able to have 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.320 those conversations. Is there any way of being able to 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.720 pick up or read into any clues that the producers 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.480 might be saying to help you in the game. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.120 Yeah, the producers were amazing. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.600 They sort of brought out the characters in us, Like 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.840 as an athlete, we're sort of trained to be humble 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:23.880 and to speak, you know. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.720 The teams played great sort of keep it low key, 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:27.480 but yeah. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.840 They brought out this person that I didn't even know 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.120 that I had, like this cheek and well, actually I'm cheeky, 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.520 but it looks like I come across arrogant and that's 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.440 not who I am. But I also found it entertaining 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.680 too I was like, oh Jesus, that was a bit forward, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.160 like hope my family doesn't get offended or whatever. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.640 And then you see the producers in the background running 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.040 their hands together. Every time you say something it's a 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.559 little bit outrageous and you can't help but want to, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.640 you know, impress your captor, so to speak. People don't 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.920 realize that in reality television with the way that you 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.440 might be because you get rewarded by the reactions of 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.559 the people around you, and you realize that, you know what, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.160 if I say something savage, it looks like it's a 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:04.560 good thing. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.040 Everyone's amazing at their jobs and they were very professional. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.800 So there was nothing from my game that I was 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.959 so caught up on. You know, if people were talking, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.920 and if it was, it was sort of out of 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.200 the norm, Like if I saw Caroline going to talk 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.160 to you know, Valeria, I just thought that was so strange. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.760 So I was very aware of what was going on around. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.560 The camp, even when we weren't heightened or we weren't 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.880 sort of pressed to go to tribal council. So Eden 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.280 was a perfect example, Like Ree and I sat there 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.680 and watched everyone just do their thing, and we noticed 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.360 it first so it was. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.000 It was wild. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.840 Yeah, Dan a great player, and people loved him because 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.640 he's a fan. He's a super fan. But you know, 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.320 he's almost and I saw him just over the weekend 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.800 walking down the street. He's almost like a mime. You 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.520 don't need any sound you can read him because he's 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.079 so animated, you know what I mean. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.000 Yeah, No, he was good. He was. He was so 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.360 great and obviously as. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.880 A superfan, he he knows a game inside and out, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.360 which is amazing. I knew nothing about it, so I 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.800 also didn't know what I was getting myself into when 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.480 it came to chats with Eden, so we didn't really 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:09.200 talk much either. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.480 There seemed to be a really clear path in overthrowing Caroline. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.360 Why did Raymond and Ferris not write Caroline's name down? 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.400 Because it was only ever so more clear in your 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.600 final tribal Council that had Ferris and Raymond written down Caroline, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:24.280 she would have gone home. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.920 Yeah, so I was trying to convince them, don't you worry. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.040 I don't think that. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.240 And I said this as well at tribal Council. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.520 I don't think that anyone was comfortable standing next to me. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.320 And I know that sounds really arrogant, but I was 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.840 confident in my game, and if somebody got there in 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.319 the end and they were able to share the things 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.840 that weren't so obvious and they won, like I'd applaud 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.520 them because like amazing. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:49.920 I don't see all of that. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.640 And I didn't do a lot of behind the scenes 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.959 worker either, so Caroline would have been an easier beat 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.680 than it was for me. And Raymond didn't want me there. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.440 For a long time. Yeah, I guess so. And so, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.880 coming from my position of being a viewer from my 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.320 couch at home, I wanted to offer you the thought 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.560 that I think you played almost a perfect game. But 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.440 in that tribal council you kind of talked a little 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.640 bit about your resume and the game. May that have 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.480 highlighted the fact to everybody that they had to write 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.839 your name down because no one would have beat you 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.079 if they took you to the final jury, Like, might 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.400 it have been better to sit on your hands a 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.040 little bit and not reveal that part of your resume? 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.400 Yeah, yeah, I see, I see exactly what you're saying. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.640 I think I actually I know I said it to 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.480 hit Ferris's ego, So I wanted him to sort of go, no, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.319 I'm not scared to stand next to you, and then 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.120 that's exactly what he said. But then he contradicts it 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.880 by playing the artle for himself, so that just sort 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.200 of it was probably double edged sword really, so yeah, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.520 Freddi's ego and then he got scared and then I 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.520 got gotten, which is funny. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.800 It was a smart move for him. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.880 I think, yeah, it definitely was. I mean, if you 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.160 and Faris had been in the final two, if there 0:11:58.200 --> 0:11:59.640 is a final two, we don't even know that at 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.720 this point, but if you and Faris had been in 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.560 the final two, do you think that you would have 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.720 beaten him when it came to the decisions being made 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:07.880 by the final jury. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.320 I think with the jury that was there before me entering, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.120 I think I would have had them because I had 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.319 relationships with nearly all of them, and even though Alex 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.199 not once, well we voted together, but it was because 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.960 we had to with the Eden vote. Yeah, I think 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.760 even he would have written my name down, so I 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.320 was okay with it. But when Farris slipped across, I 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.720 don't think he was okay with it. So yeah, that's 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:32.960 that turned the corner. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.080 Well, the jury's kind of complete. Now is there some 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.199 with more influence on how everyone will vote? You know, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.240 the question that I guess that I'm trying to ask 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.439 here is do you think once you get to the 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:49.160 jury that there's more powerful voices they're influencing everyone's overall decisions? 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.120 Or do you think once it comes time to it, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.160 everyone will vote independently with their own thoughts. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.480 Yeah, I feel like and I'm somebody that needs to 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.920 know more information to sort of get the whole perspective 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.400 and the whole view on things like I know Ferris's 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.640 game from playing at him and with him sort of, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.120 but Eileen knows his game inside and out because she 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.880 was there the whole time on site. Then there's Val 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.360 who has worked with Mark and so she knows that. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.080 So it'd be interesting to see what it looks like 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.520 from their perspective and how you know these players have 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.760 played the game. And on top of Caroline being on 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.120 the Titans trial with Vollen Jayden, I don't know what 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.400 that looks like either, So it's going to be really interesting. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.319 And obviously I know Ray, but Ray just sort of 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.800 blocked me out. So Eileen's got the insight to that too. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.320 What's the biggest talking points at the jury villa when 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.640 you got back there, because I guess the conversations when 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.640 you're in the beach of Samora and playing the game 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.000 would obviously be different to the type of relaxed nature 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.280 of what you could talk about once you get back there, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.480 and I guess it becomes a free for all when 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.920 it comes to honesty. What were the big conversation points 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.960 that everyone was discussing now that all the cameras were. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.840 Off, Who made what move and how they made it 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.840 and who they think made whatever move? So I, to 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.040 be honest, I was so worried about food. That's that 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:06.960 was my main focus. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.360 The food is going in and none of the voices 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:10.719 was going in at that point, you know. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.480 And sound was being blocked out, and that's where I 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:13.880 was at. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.560 But yeah, I think it was just exciting to know 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.480 each other on a personal level, not as a game player, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.840 because the way that I sort of approached the game, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.360 I was guarded in a sense, but I was also 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.840 very aware of what I was saying, so it wasn't 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.640 necessarily calculated, but it wasn't giving too much. 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.720 But I just felt relaxed that I can just. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.840 Be me true you know, if you were to return 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.360 to Survivor, and you know, if you read anything on 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.800 any of any of the big fan sites right now, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.640 everyone's already talking about when you return. Apart from wanting 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.040 to win and get the half a million dollars next time, 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.720 do you have a score to settle? Is there who 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.720 do you have the biggest score to settle with that 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.800 you think they may return also so that you can 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:54.920 re challenge. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.240 If people are looking in that sense. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.560 I'm assuming that it would be Faires obviously because he 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.200 broke up with me, so I'd be gunning for him 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.000 because obviously we've had an on and off relationship and 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.960 nobody knows if it's love Island with us. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.520 So if it's like brother confused. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.720 Kirby, I asked people that. Throughout the season of interviewing people, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.800 I was asking people's their take on your relationship, and 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.000 I kept saying to them, you know, it's not romantic, 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.560 but is it brother and sister? Is it bff? Like 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.480 I don't understand, but the chemistry between the two of 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 you was electric television Yeah. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.680 And it was genuine too, Like that's us, that's how 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.680 we get along. And I will still banter with him 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.480 and be like, how dare you break up with me 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.960 like that? And just you know, and his wife is 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.480 beautiful and I love her like she's so amazing. I'll 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.800 get along well with her too. But yeah, we've got this. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.360 It is a unique relationship. But he really is like 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.880 a younger brother, and I think what really cements our 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.280 relationship and the way that we are is our backgrounds. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.120 We've got a similar understanding for what it's like to 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.280 walk in our shoes. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:58.080 That connection. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.080 You can't get much deeper than that, because yeah, it's 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:02.520 a pretty close understanding. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:03.640 So it was so fun. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.720 But to settle a score, he would definitely be one 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.080 that I would love to go up against again. In 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.280 the same note, I would be watching the season's past 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.920 and learning about the game and what people. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:17.760 Think they can expect from the game. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.560 I don't think i'd ever play or want to play 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.760 like anyone else either, but only because I think and 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.840 it's a bit like footy. If you play the way 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.360 that everyone wants you to play, then it becomes boring 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.320 and too predictable. And I like chaos. I operate well 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.760 in chaos, and probably a big reason why I wasn't 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.480 afraid of just jumping and moving and shifting. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.840 Did you feel emotional? I felt like, this is going 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.280 to show you how invested I am an Australian survivor 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.400 and maybe I need some therapy. But how emotional do 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.600 you feel when he made that speech with his immunity idol, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.280 Because there was a moment where I actually I had 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.920 tears coming in my eyes while he was talking about you. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.360 I don't know, you didn't seem like you were going 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.640 to cry sitting there. Maybe you did and we didn't 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.960 see that. But was it emotional in the moment to 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.720 hear him offer you a declaration before technically breaking up 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.240 with you. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.320 No, No, I watching back, I can see how emotional 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.360 he was like in his ivs and just the. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.560 Way that, yeah, how hard he found it. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.159 And I can understand it because we were really close. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.439 But when he was telling that, saying that speech, I 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.399 was like, oh my god, like I have no idea 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.359 where this is going to go, and I was just 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.320