1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're growing the women's game and hopefully there's this 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: young girls watching us all the time and hoping to 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: play some origin too, because we never had that when 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: we were young. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: When rugby league player Jamie Chapman was growing up, she 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: didn't have any NRLW stars to look up to. In fact, 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: just so she could keep playing footy, her dad helped 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: her make her own sevens team full of young girls 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: who went on to win their local comp. Fast forward 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty and Jamie made her NRLW debut with 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: the Dragons and hasn't looked back since, going on to 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: play in two NRLW Grand Finals, represent the Indigenous All Stars, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: and make eight State of Origin appearances, including in twenty 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: twenty four when she scored that eighty five meters solo try. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Female Athlete Project and thanks for 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: pressing play on today's episode. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: My name is Sophie Norris. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: The producer here at TEFAP, and this week we sit 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: down with NRLW star and Rockwear ambassador Jamie Chapman, who's 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: hoping to win by the next generation of women in league. Chapo, 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: a proud Camillaroy woman, shares what it means to where 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: the Indigenous all styles jersey and represent her mob, why 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: being a role model for the next generation of women 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: is so important and what strength your way means to her. 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed this episode thanks to Rockwaar. 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: Jamie Chapman, Welcome to the Female Athlete Protect. 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm very very excited to 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: be here. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to having a chat to kick 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: us off. Can you describe Jamie as a little kid. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: Ferrel, No, she was someone that just loved everything. I think, 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: not an indoorsy girl. I was always outside on the trampoline, 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: climbing trees, playing footy, on a motorbike. Yeah. I don't 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: know if you can use the term tomboy, but that's 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: what we used to say about me when I was 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a little girl. 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, getting on the bike. Did you have like 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: a big property? Were you doing it at home? Getting 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: on the bike? 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I lived in a little town called Kurt which is 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: just near Cronulla, and there was lots of space to 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: do it out there. Back then. I used to go 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: to the National Park and right around on it, and 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: I guess our streets were quite quiet back then, so 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I can do whatever I wanted. 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool, that's awesome. 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen a really cool video where you talked 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: about your relationship with your dad. What was What was 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: it like growing up with your dad being such a 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: huge fan and support of you getting into footy and 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: into sport. 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'm very lucky to have 53 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: a dad that supports me the way that he does. 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: If I didn't have him, i've been a very very 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: different position than I am in today. So I'm always 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: very grateful to have him in my life. But yeah, 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: he took me to every single game I ever had. 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: You know, he signed me up to everything. He started 60 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: a footy team when we didn't have one, and I 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: guess he was just my number one supporter and still 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: is to this day. He doesn't miss a game, even 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: if I'm not playing, He's there watching the girls. So 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: very lucky to have him. 65 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: That's really cool when you say starting a team, were 66 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: you playing league from being a kid? 67 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I played league when I was five years old. 68 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Started playing with the boys only girl and the team 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: for a long time, and yeah, I fit right in 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: because the boys there were all my mates from school, 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: small town and yeah, played until under twelves. Under twelves, girls, 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: you can't play rugby league anymore. Do your best with 73 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: something else, you know. Yeah, there was nothing I liked 74 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: more than rugby though, So we were in under fifteens competition. 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: We entered a seventh team. Dad was the coach. Just 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: all of our girls playing ostag and touch. We all 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: came in and created a sevens team. We ended up 78 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: winning the camp, the state camp. 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool. 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah it was pretty cool, you know, just these local 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: girls going out there giving it their best, and yeah, 82 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: we made the newspaper. It was like the best thing 83 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: ever about that. 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: That's cool was seven's like rugby union. Seven's ever on 85 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: the cards for you was always league. 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: That was a sevens team that we did that. Yeah, 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I actually did give sevens a good crack. I really 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: enjoyed it too. I think having that free space and yeah, 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: I guess so much room to run, which is probably 90 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: a bit big part of my game is running. So 91 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: I do mis having that space a bit. But I 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: do love rugby league and the culture and all the 93 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: girls in it, my coaches, my staff and surrounded a 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: bus and really good people. But sevens is still a 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: very good sport that I love it. 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: It's so so hard. I don't miss it at all. 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah running, Yes, I've heard a bit about the sevens 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: programs and I think I'll stick over. 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't mind that. 100 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: How have you found that with and will touch a 101 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: little bit on your NLW debut and things, But how 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: have you found that what you touched on, like having 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: less space as someone who's like so good with your 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: speed and your ability to run, how have you found 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 4: that trying to like make space out of nothing? 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes? 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I find it it's quite difficult. I think the 108 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: game's gotten so good and that the players are just 109 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: so talented. Then you don't really get much space these days. 110 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: And I think when I first started out, rugby league 111 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: wasn't very common and the girls that were playing may 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: have only played for a year or two years, or 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: a very fair few played rugby league as a kid. 114 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess the game's grown, the spaces have 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: gotten smaller, the girls are more talented, they're more knowledgeable 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and experienced. So yeah, it's hard. I guess I give 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: it to my halves. They they're the ones who set 118 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: me up. So I just run through the whole. 119 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, I like that. Tell me about your ammer 120 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: old w debut. Were eighteen years old at the time, Yeah, 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: I was was What was an eighteen year old Jamie like. 122 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh, no, I was. I was feral still I think. 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Have we got out of that? Not yet a little bit. 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm maturing. 125 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting there. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was in 126 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: the development for Dragons. My coach Daniel Lacey. He really 127 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: put all of his trust into me, and he gave 128 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: me the opportunity that I have today playing rugby league. 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Is his you know, trust in me. So he was 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: one of the best coaches I've had and had the 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: most fun with him, I guess as our coach. And yeah, 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: just got the opportunity as soon as I turned eighteen, 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: And yeah I got out there and played. It was 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: very nerve wracking. I've never been a nervous player, and okay, 135 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: I was like scared, you know, sitting in the corner, 136 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: not myself kind of thing. And yeah, I eventually got 137 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: out of that stage, but it took me a long time. 138 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: What was it about playing a raw that made you nervous? 139 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: The TV and the audience and the I guess, you know, 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: pressure of doing well TV, and yeah, I don't know, 141 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: maybe just the eyes on you. I've never really had 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: that before. And yeah, now the women's game is where 143 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: it is and wouldn't have it any other way. 144 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: So what kind of strategies have you worked out pregame 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: when you're in the chain room? Like, I feel like 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: experience helps, right, and sometimes it's like the more you 147 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: do it, the more comfortable you feel. But do you 148 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: do anything specifically to deal with nerves? 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: Now? 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: To be honest, I am still very chill. I as 151 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: long as I've done my preview and review right in 152 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: the week leading up to the game, I understand what 153 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I need to work on and what I'm coming up 154 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: against and gives me that, you know, confidence that I'm 155 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: going to be okay and preparation's done good. Then you'll 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: see me in the in the sheds dancing and singing 157 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: because I like to be very chill and just not 158 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: really think about footy. And then once I run out 159 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: onto that field, it switches, and yeah, I call it 160 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: outside noise. So I like to just stick to myself, 161 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: really focused and know what the job is ahead of 162 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: me and get out of that dancing kind of adrenaline 163 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: pump and I like to just be chill when I 164 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: get out there, So yeah. 165 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: I like that. 166 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: Have you ever found, like, say, for us in AFOW, 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: lots of people have kind of commented, you know, like 168 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: I'm kind of not headphones on, I'm kind of halfway 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: in between, but like some of my teammates would love 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: to like dance and muck around. And there's been sometimes 171 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: commentary where people who don't know what it's like to 172 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: be in those situations almost think that you're not focused. Yeah, 173 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: have you ever had feedback like that when because I 174 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: feel like women's footy chain rooms are often very different 175 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: to the men's footy Chaine drooms. 176 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: Being a coach and being a staff member, you know 177 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: how your players prepare and if you don't know your players, 178 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: and that's probably a problem. My coach Murph and Boothy 179 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: and all of our staff, they know that if I'm 180 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: being out there and I'm having fun before the game, 181 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to play good. If I'm in my head, 182 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: then I'm probably going to stay that way during the game. 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, people have questions in the way that I prepare, 184 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: but that's just me. I love that and everyone's different 185 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and as long as I'm dancing in that corner, so I, 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, not interrupting the other girls prep just being 187 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: mindful of others as well, because not everyone prepares the 188 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: same as some girls at headphones on, fully focused and 189 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: before the game leading into the game. And then there's 190 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: there's a few of us that are up dancing and 191 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: you know, having some pre workout getting up, yet our 192 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: body's ready to go out there. So yeah, yeah, I 193 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: like that different. 194 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: I like that you mentioned Murph. Can you touch on 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: what it's what it's like And obviously we haven't touched 196 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: there on your move to Gold Coast what that was like. 197 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: But being coached by someone who's a real trailblazer in 198 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: the women's game, for sure. 199 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: We all know Mirf she's straighty one eighty, she'll tell 200 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you how it is, ex copper and an amazing footy player. 201 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: She's just got the knowledge of years of experience and 202 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: she's a trailblazer in the women's game. She does so 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: much at the Titans Club that no one sees. I 204 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: think the way that she develops how young girls is 205 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: inspiring and I look up to her every day and 206 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: she'll hate that I'm saying that because she's the most 207 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: humble person you'll meet. But that's just that's how she is. 208 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, do you like because I love being coached 209 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: by people who can have honest conversations. Is that something 210 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: that's really nice with her because you just know, you 211 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: know what you're getting, you're not getting something, you're saying 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: you're doing great and then. 213 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she's got the good balance in between of 214 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: criticism and constructive criticism. She knows how to point out 215 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: what your work werecorns are without being disrespectful. So yeah, 216 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate the way that she handles us 217 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: as women as well. And like I said, you need 218 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: to know your players. So whoever it is that she's 219 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: doing that review, I she changes it, you know, the 220 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: way that she would tell you how to do things 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: on each player. 222 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Let's talk Origin. Did you It was Origin a big 224 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: thing for you as a kid watching it growing up. 225 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Like you know those Wednesday nights or it was it 226 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday nights back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wednesday nights 227 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: we'd be sitting in the lound room cheering on the 228 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: blues or dressed in our skulls. So yeah, definitely been 229 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: a big think big part of my life ever since 230 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: I was a kid. 231 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: What was it like finding out you were going to 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: get to wear your first New South Wales jersey? 233 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: I my first New South Wales jersey was under nineteen 234 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: So Origin and we played before the women, Yeah, I 235 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: think it was was it North Sydney? 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. 237 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: It was an amazing I just remember looking at those 238 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: the women's side, thinking, oh my god, they're watching our 239 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: game and that's Jess, sir, just Maddie starton that. Everyone 240 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: was in that team and yeah, now I'll get to 241 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: play with them and my teammates. So it's pretty cool 242 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: to see that. 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: What's your prep like, like just say insight into what 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: the change in like? To me, Origin just feels so 245 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: heated and it's like it's the big moment, right, Like, 246 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: what's it like and what are your nerves are preparing for? 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Origin? 248 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Origin is a different game. We all know it's a 249 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: pinnacle of women's rugby league. It's you know, it's right 250 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: up there and sell out crowds. Yeah, you know, we 251 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: make history when every Origin game we play, it always 252 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: is getting better and bigger, and so many people watching 253 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: us and supporting women's rugby league so we want to perform. 254 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I guess it's before our season, so we need to 255 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: have a six week pre season block where I'll fly 256 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: down to Sydney and train, fly back home work. It's 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: pretty difficult juggling working and training at this time and 258 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: also being able to go back to Clubland as well 259 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: and get those combinations with my players back at Clubland 260 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: and in Origin. But you know, you're playing for your 261 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: state is something that not everyone gets to do and 262 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I'll never ever take that jersey for granted. So if 263 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: that means flying to Sydney, of course I'll be on 264 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: that flight. Like you know. It's just it's a really 265 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: really special thing that I get to play for New 266 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: South Wales and it's a very tough game. Preparing for 267 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: that is obviously, you know, turning up to training and 268 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, all those opportunities to grow and get better 269 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: they may come with sacrificing time and work and time 270 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: with family, time to yourself, I guess, but it's all 271 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: worth it in the end when we get to play 272 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: like Origin three games now and yeah, we're growing the 273 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: women's game and hopefully there's this young girls watching us 274 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: all the time and hoping to play some origin too, 275 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: because we never had that when we're young. 276 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, there are plenty plenty of young girls watching. 277 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: Speaking of jerseys that mean a lot. Can you touch 278 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: on what it's meant to you to play Indigenous All 279 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 4: Stars and represent your mild and your people. 280 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: All Stars is another different game in itself, you know, 281 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: it's more than footy. We go out there representing all 282 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: our mobs, our communities. We're representing Indigenous Australians and yeah, 283 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: I just think that some people don't understand that foot 284 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: is a way of life for our mob. So we 285 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: can play that All Stars game and represent and be 286 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: positive role models for people in the community and then 287 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: they can you know, have some motivation to play rugby 288 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: league or make healthy choices like Deadly Choices is the 289 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: main sponsor for us and they provide those seven to 290 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: one to five health checks and you know, keeping everyone 291 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: in the community healthy. So the more that we can 292 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: put that out there to our people, then yeah, the 293 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: better it is for everyone. 294 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: And what's it like, whether it's in camp or the 295 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: week and the lead up to the game like that, Like, 296 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: do you guys have the opportunity to connect in the 297 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: community as well? 298 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Definitely, it's a very community based week. We have our 299 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: aunties come in, so we have someone from the Aboriginal side, 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: and then we also have a Torus straight Anie come 301 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: in as well. We've had Annie lind Done for the 302 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: last few years and I have a special connection with her. 303 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: She lives just in the Gold Coast there and I 304 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: get to see her at Titans as well. She's one 305 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: of the best people you ever meet. But we get 306 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: to do so many cultural experiences. We get to tell 307 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: our stories, we get to just sit down and have 308 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: a yarn and when we're all Indigenous women come together 309 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: in one space, it's a very very powerful and I 310 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: guess spiritual and emotional space that not many people get 311 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: to experience. So All Stars is definitely the best week 312 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: of the year. And I'll say that and I'll stand 313 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: by that for a very long time. It's just a 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: different game and it needs to stay, needs to stay 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: getting played because there's been talk, you know, drop them 316 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: that game, and it's just it's more than just footy. 317 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: It's a way of life. It's promoting health, it's you know, 318 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: it's saving people's lives, even if you think about it 319 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: like that. So I love social special game. 320 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: If you think about like footy clubs and sporting organizations, 321 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: do feel like there's anything more that they can be 322 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: doing to make it like a safe or like more 323 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: welcoming environment because we know, like how many incredibly talented 324 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: Indigenous athletes there are, but a lot of time they're 325 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: potentially having to leave family, leave mob and come and 326 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: kind of walk into these high performance environments that might 327 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: feel really foreign to them. 328 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess having some support systems in place probably 329 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: would be better. We do have great mental health coaches 330 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: and well being managers in our teams and our spaces 331 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: that do look after that. But for me, it's recognizing 332 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: the grassroots talent that we have. We need more people 333 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: out there with their eyes on these young boys and 334 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: girls coming through. Like I go out in the Northern 335 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Rivers a lot. I work in the community at the Titans. 336 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Northern Rivers is our catchment and I get to see 337 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: some really talented young people coming through in our community. 338 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: There was one time I didn't have any footies with me. Ironic. 339 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: I was doing a footage design and we played with 340 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: a pair of socks and these girls were just whacking 341 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: the boys, and I said, see you better keep playing 342 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: footy because you'll be protecting me in ten years time 343 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: when I'm all old and watched up. So I need 344 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: her to be in my team. But I think, yeah, 345 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: we need more people out there. We need some We 346 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: need more opportunities for our young ones and our mob 347 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: to come through. I think, yeah, we all know that 348 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: there's very talented people. But let's get them in. Let's 349 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: get them playing footy. Let's get them in a team sport. 350 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, if they could be going down a wrong 351 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: path where there's nothing to do out there where they 352 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: live and they start burning cars for fun, Let's get 353 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: them in a team sport. Let's bring footy to the 354 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: communities and let's fund that. I reckon. I think we 355 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: have the funding and that's got money's let's fund the 356 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: footy out in the rural communities where they have nothing. 357 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. What do you love 358 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: about that community role? 359 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 4: Is it going to just connect with kids and meet 360 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: kids and play with to footy and have fun. 361 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very fun job. But for me, I'm 362 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: just grateful to be in the position I am in today. 363 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: I think young Jamie had no one to look up 364 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: to in the footy space. I actually had Paul Gallant 365 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: come in and do a visit once when I was 366 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: saying for the Colonel Sting Rays big gal, and I 367 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: was like, who was your favorite player going, I said, 368 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: Paul Gallen. I told him the like, you know, in 369 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: the last few years, how much of a difference he 370 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: made to my life for one simple favor. You know, 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: he came over to a Colonel Sting Rays training and 372 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: he gave just a little bit of extra time to 373 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: me because you know, I was a little girl and 374 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: the all boys team and gave us all a pair 375 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: of blades boots. And I was a sponsor of his 376 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: at the time and it would have taken him five 377 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: minutes out of his day, but that made a lasting 378 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: effect in my life because I was like, oh my god, 379 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Paul Kellen gave me boots and I wore them until 380 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: my toes crunched up in the front. And yeah they 381 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: were blue and the Blues and Sharks because I go, 382 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: we used to go for Carnala Sharks still do. They're 383 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: my club. But yeah, I just think, you know, he's 384 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: inspired me a lot to do that, and we never 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: had women to do that for us. So now I'm 386 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: playing rugby league as a career, I get to use 387 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: that as a vehicle to drive you know, girls can 388 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: do this too. Yeah, I think you know, you can 389 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: do anything you set your mind to, even if that's 390 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, doing something on the computer, 391 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: But if we're promoting that message that you can do 392 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: anything you want if you set your mind to it, 393 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, I guess that's what I'm what I'm doing 394 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully I can provide a positive role model for 395 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: the young ones. 396 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: Speaking of your off field roles and what you do, 397 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: you're an ambassador for Rockwear. Can you tell us about 398 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: Rockwear and what that ambassadorship means to you? 399 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Something that I never thought was possible, you know, playing 400 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: rugby league in general, but now having a partnership with 401 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: an active war company who just want women to do 402 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: better and they support us in everything that we do. 403 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: I align with their value use in every single way. 404 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: Rockware have opened so many doors for me and I 405 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: get to do it alongside my best friend Shayley, but 406 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: both rep and Rockwear and you know, every value that 407 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: they have we believe in and they're pushing for women 408 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: to do better. So very grateful to be a part 409 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: of the team here, and yeah, I just never thought 410 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: this would happen. So I'm very grateful and I'm very 411 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: excited because big things are coming. And yeah, I think 412 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be big twelve months for myself and Rockwear. 413 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing. And you touched on aligning with the values. 414 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: Is a big value of Rockwear. Is strength your Way? 415 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: Can you touch on what does that actually mean to you? 416 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: I think strength my Way is strength all over, physical, mental, 417 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: it's everything. But strength is different for everyone. Everyone views 418 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: it in a different light. If you were to ask 419 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: me ten years ago, I'd say, oh, yeah, you know 420 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: you're strong in the gym, But now I think you know, 421 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 1: you need to be strong in your communities, you need 422 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: to be strong in the way that you hold yourself, 423 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you need to be strong mentally, you need to be 424 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: strong physically. But yeah, I think it's different for everyone. 425 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: But I think strength my way is having a little 426 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: bit of every cup full, rather than saying, Yep, I'm 427 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: really strong in the gym, but I'm lacking in the 428 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: mental health department. Or I'm really strong mentally, but I 429 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: haven't been going to the gym. So I like to 430 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: just even it out across everything and be strong in 431 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: all areas of my life. 432 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: I really like that having a little bit in every cup. 433 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: I know that before a little bit every for that 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: that's cool. 435 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be full everywhere. You know. If 436 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, my cup's full in the mental health department, 437 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I can I can start feeling it elsewhere. So I 438 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: just like to eaven it out. 439 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, I'm going to use that. Yeah. 440 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: Touching on that mental health piece, what do you do 441 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: and how have you learned to look after yourself and 442 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: your mental health? 443 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I really like to just practice gratitude. So I have 444 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: a little journal that I write in every day. And 445 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: there's definitely been a struggle being an athlete and being 446 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: a woman. We all know it's not hard these days, 447 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: just just surviving. So you know, I guess for me, 448 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: I'd just like to stay grateful for I am. I'd 449 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: like to change my perspective on things a lot. Work 450 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: in the community has really helped me do that. And 451 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I work with a lot of people with disabilities. I 452 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: work with people that are you know, less fortunate. Got 453 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity to travel overseas and see, you know how 454 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: some of these kids live they don't even have families, 455 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: and some people couldn't walk, And I think, g I'm lucky. 456 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: So I think that's just how I keep myself going 457 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: and motivated. Is just I'm so grateful to be where 458 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: I am, and no matter what I'm going through, someone's 459 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: got it worse. So I kind of change my perspective 460 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot. And that's how I deal with a lot 461 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: of things. I think. 462 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: I like that. 463 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: Two questions that I ask everyone on the podcast. Number 464 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: one is who has had the biggest impact on you 465 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: as a person. 466 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Probably my dad. Going back to Dad, He's he's been 467 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: there through everything. And when I was younger, I could 468 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: have gone a different way, and if it wasn't for him, 469 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: I would definitely not be here today. And I couldn't 470 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: even be standing here today. You know, everyone goes through 471 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: stuff when when you're young, and if it wasn't for him, 472 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: like I definitely wouldn't even be, you know, breathe in 473 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: the same area as you right now. But also like 474 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: in the position that I'm in today, He's taught me. 475 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: He was the first person to teach me like unconditional love. 476 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: He loves me no matter what, and that's given me 477 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do the same with everyone in my community, 478 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: my staff, my teammates, And yeah, I guess he's the 479 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: main person that I go to if I've got anything 480 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: wrong or even if I've got good news. You know, 481 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: he's the one person not cool. And I've got beautiful 482 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: family as well other than Dad, but he's just he's 483 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: my rock. And yeah, I guess I was the son 484 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: he never really had. And yeah, that's it. 485 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: That's really beautiful. What's dad's name, Dave? Dave shout out 486 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 4: to day. He sounds like a really lovely man. That's 487 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: really cool. 488 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: I love him. 489 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: Second one is what would you describe as your favorite failure? 490 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: My favorite failure. That's a good one. Actually, I did 491 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: to think about that. 492 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: This one stumps people. 493 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like, what's something that's gone wrong, 494 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: But then when you can kind of like reflect back 495 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: on it, it's actually turned into a positive. 496 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: I guess twenty twenty five was probably the darkest places 497 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I've ever been in. Suffered a lot of things off 498 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: the field, but also an injury as well, and actually 499 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: two major injuries, one in February and then one halfway 500 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: through the season. Which I had to sit down, and 501 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, playing sport comes with injuries, but for me, 502 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: I was like thinking of all the bad. I was like, 503 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: why is this happening to me? You know, And it 504 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: was a mixture of everything. I was just letting everything 505 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: that everyone else was saying, media, I was letting it 506 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: all get to me, and I was in some very 507 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: dark places. So a failure for not pulling myself up 508 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: on that. I think that I'm in a very good 509 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: space now where I don't think I'll ever let myself 510 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: get to that stage again because I know now it 511 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: was a lesson. So yeah, I think that would be 512 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: my favorite failure is just not pulling myself up on 513 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, letting all that get to me and caring 514 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: about what people think and what people are saying, what 515 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: media think, and yeah, change perspective again. 516 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 517 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: You know, being playing footy right now and being in 518 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: the spotlight is a good thing. You know, I'm playing 519 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: rugby league and it's my career and I just got 520 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: to change a perspective of Yeah, spotlight, but it comes 521 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: with media as it's pros and it has its cons 522 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: as well. 523 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time today. I've really 524 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: genuinely so enjoyed chatting to you, and like I've admired 525 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: you as an athlete. 526 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: You're just absolutely a beast on the field. 527 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: But it's really cool just like getting to know you 528 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: and like your humor, but also like your introspection and 529 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 4: the way you look at things. 530 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: It's been really lovely to chat. So thank you so much. 531 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: No, thank you. I'm very very grateful to be a 532 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: part of it. So thank you, and I love everything 533 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: you're doing for the women's sport. 534 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I appreciate that. 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