1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Oft, here's our cutting room floor. 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Have you heard the term glossing. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: When you're talking about lipstick, glossing, glossy magazines, glossing over facts. 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: Well, glossing over how unhappy you are at work. That's 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: what glossing means, pretending to be fine at work when 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: you actually aren't. It refers to the excessive optimism to 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 4: dismiss difficulties at work, which we often do. We often say, no, 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: everything's fine, everything's fine, when in fact, by glossing, you 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: could be doing yourself damage. 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: So this is an interesting study. This is a quote. 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Using this coping mechanism can lead to mistrust, isolation, increased stress, 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: and resentment. So this poll found that sixty seven percent 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: of workers feeled that they work in a toxic environment. 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: Seventy eight percent of workers don't think their employer is 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: doing enough to address their mental wellness at work, but 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 4: they don't want to reference it. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about it. 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: Most people will say I'm fine and not want you 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: to stir the pot because it takes a certain person 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: to call out your office culture for systematic change. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it doesn't work well for whistle blowers, does it. 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: And maybe that's exactly what part of this is that 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: people are saying. 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Just stay positive. It could be worse. Everything's all right. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: But this avoidance means that your mental health doesn't shift. Yeah, 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: and it means no one's aware that you're struggling. It 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 4: also means that things that might need to be changed 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: within your office just aren't. Yeah, so they're saying, look 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: out for that. Look out. These are some of the 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 4: phrases that people This is how you might recognize that 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: someone's glossing. They say to tone down the positive language, 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: like look out for the over positive language in somebody. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: Well I'm at everything's fine, everything's fine. They go and 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: cry in their car. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 5: I'm very positive here. 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you would also you all out what 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: you see I do, and make sure you speak up 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: on a one on one basis. Don't just hide your dissatisfaction, 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: don't dismiss feedback, get rid of the people pleasing. Oh, 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: that's a big problem I have is people pleasing. So 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: when when normal people I don't care whether I please you. 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: I haven't been pleased by you for some time. When's 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: this happening? When when am I going to see these 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: people pleasing. 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: Remember we've had these other workplace kind of phrases, so 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: glossing is this interesting one. 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: Do you remember the quiet quitting that phrase came about. 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was during that was after COVID. People are 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 3: just not show up to work. 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: They shar up to work, but not do anything. 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: They do the mo and I mean not. 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: Shar up to work. They'd sharp to work, but they 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: just wouldn't do it. 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: That's right. They'd mentally not show up. They wouldn't bring 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: their best self. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: The practice of doing no more work than one is 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: contractually obliged to. Now we have quick quit talk. 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: If you heard of quick took, what's quit talk? 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: This is live people people live quitting their jobs. 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 3: On the ABC, they said to be doing that a 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: lot lately. 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: In a fully someone could see it in. 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: ABC has a lot of support. 66 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that you're greeding the will for the ABC, 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: but I feel that I can't go back. 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: I can't get the job there. 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: You know. Oh, people, please somewhere else. 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: Because I'm too good to work at the ABC. 71 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: That's the Come on, Brendan, I'm about to do a 72 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: whole lot of stuff. 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm your great on the ABC whittok is. 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: Live quitting your job in a bid to bring greater 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: transparency to the goings on in the workplace. And have 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: you heard of proximity bias? No, she's nice proximity as 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: people return to the office, restrictions were lifted, et cetera. 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: But they're the negative impact of proximity bias on those 79 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: who continue to work from home. 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: So how we feel I'm reading into that. 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: I think it's how you feel about those that aren't 82 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: back at the office and are working from home. 83 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 5: How do you feel. 84 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: There was a story this morning about a couple of 85 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: girls on the beach at bond and saying, well, if 86 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: I'm getting the work done, who cares where I am? 87 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: That would drive me crazy? 88 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Can take, isn't it? Because when someone says, you go, 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: where's old mate today? And they say, oh, he's working 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: from home. You go here, right, that gay in between 91 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: mowing his lawns. 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: And doing everything, all the stuff that the rest of 93 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: us have to do on the weekend. Yeah, well, if 94 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: the work gets done. 95 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 5: But if the work gets done, doesn't. 96 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: Matter if you're sitting on a beach or sitting in 97 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: a cafe all day and patting your dog all day? 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: Does it matter? How can it not? Though? Roll up 99 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: people that don't get a chance to do that. How 100 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: can it not? We're human being. 101 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: I remember when I worked down the Snow many years ago. 102 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: I was the DJ down. 103 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: At the Snow were you BJ the DJ. 104 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 5: No and part of that roll. 105 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: Everyone got very jealous because at the time it was 106 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven. I would get three hundred dollars a 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 3: week in the hand and also my food and board 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: was covered. 109 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: With Wow, that's amazing. 110 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: And all I had to do. 111 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: Was just be in the nightclub from six to I 112 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: think three in the morning, which it was a long day, 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: but I have to do a little kid's disco as well. 114 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: But the other people, other executives, because I w also 115 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: what they call a blue coat, we all got to 116 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: wear these blue coats. Because I was the head of 117 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: my department. I was the only DJ there. 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: You're also the lowest of your department. 119 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: And so all the other people, like the matre d 120 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: got the ships, and so did the head chef because 121 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: of what Because I was the head of my I 122 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: was part of this this big blue coat team. And 123 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: they didn't like it at all. So they went to 124 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: the boss, who quite liked me, because what's not to like? 125 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: I unlike you people pleased to everyone. He said, I 126 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: leave the kiddle lad and said he's got to be 127 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: doing other works because they just see me parting on 128 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: all night with dancing girls and then go skiing all 129 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: day and just repeat, paid. 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: A lot of money to do it. So they made me. 131 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: They said, well, okay, he's got to he's got a vacuum, 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: you know, the nightclub. 133 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 5: And so that was the thing and I went. At first, 134 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 5: I was out. 135 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: It's like Lord of the Fly. 136 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: I got so good at vacuuming, and I got this 137 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: good wet and dry vacuum, so it was just and 138 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: then i'd get the kids from the kids disco vacum 139 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: the floor because. 140 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: The wet and drive vacuum was amazing. It just suck 141 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: up any one day. 142 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: So the kids are there, I put a record on 143 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: the thing and they just run around like nuts. And 144 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: then one of those kids saw me vacuuming the bar 145 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: area and could iver go. 146 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like Tom Sawy's fence. 147 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: All these kids were having to go with the vacuum. 148 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 5: So I just sat there back and. 149 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Watched the kids doing the loving yourself. 150 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: I remember the Matrox. 151 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: He just came down and he looked in and he 152 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: just went muttered something out of his breath under his breath, 153 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: and just walked down. 154 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: Good time. 155 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 5: That's what happens when you're a people pleaser. You should 156 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: take a leaf. 157 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: For the day tomorrow. 158 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: More cuddl