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Speaker 1: For comprehensive political coverage impacting territorians. The only voice you

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Speaker 1: need is Katie will find three sixty remaining one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent and Mix one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 2: Well, usually this happens on a Wednesday morning, but we're

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Speaker 2: mixing things up a little bit and joining us in

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Speaker 2: the studio for the big issues. Damien Hail, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Wolfe. How are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh good, that's great. Have you in the studio. We've

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Speaker 4: missed you, We've missed you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I've been traveling around a lot. I know,

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Speaker 3: swign in small planes in monsoonal conditions, so it scary. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, and joining us this morning is Maddie Hepworth Mix

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Speaker 2: one O four point Nine's very own Maddi Hepworth.

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Speaker 4: Because the big man, Dave Tolner is away.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately it's a bit like a monsognal storm with dteen

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Speaker 5: here some morning, so you know it's much the same Haley.

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Speaker 3: He needs his own television show, doesn't he really?

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Speaker 4: Maybe? Big Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty to discuss this morning, and I might actually

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Speaker 2: start with this news, this breaking news. It is just

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Speaker 2: coming out of North Queensland. The Queensland government is going

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Speaker 2: to introduce GPS tracking for repeat high risk offenders age

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Speaker 2: sixteen and seventeen in certain locations under an overhaul of

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Speaker 2: the youth justice system. Now some of the other changes

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Speaker 2: include a presumption against bail for serious offenses, so reversing

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Speaker 2: prosecutors having to argue why there shouldn't be bail seek

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Speaker 2: assurances from parents and guardians that bail conditions will be

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Speaker 2: complied with before an offender is released. They'll also be

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Speaker 2: legislating a common law principle that defending on bail is

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Speaker 2: an aggravating circumstance that must be considered by courts during sentencing.

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Speaker 2: Police on the Gold Coast will be given metal detector

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Speaker 2: wants to target knife crime. There's going to be registered

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Speaker 2: vehicle owners will be responsible for how their car is

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Speaker 2: used under anti honing provisions unless the car has been

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Speaker 2: stolen or the owner can identify another driver.

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Speaker 4: Now we know that there's going to be a.

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Speaker 2: Parliamentary inquiry is going to look at the implementation of

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Speaker 2: engine immobilizers and the former Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson will

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Speaker 2: conduct a six month review of these changes. I think

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Speaker 2: they needed some fairly big change in Queensland. It has

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Speaker 2: been tragic to see what's gone on there over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. And on the weekend, of course,

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Speaker 2: a young woman's life lost in Townsville after a vehicle

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Speaker 2: was allegedly stolen and then a vigilante pursuit allegedly occurred.

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Speaker 2: You know, it is incredibly sad when you see people's

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Speaker 2: lives lost on the road then as a result of

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Speaker 2: people sort of breaking the law. That goes without saying,

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Speaker 2: but it feels like we've got a real issue around

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Speaker 2: Australia at the moment. You know, we can't just say

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Speaker 2: it's a territory. We're seeing now in cans and towns

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Speaker 2: the moment with some uthes and I want to put

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Speaker 2: with that out. It's a very small portion of you

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Speaker 2: instead of doing the wrong thing. You know, you go

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Speaker 2: to footy on the weekend, you go to swimming in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon, you go to marara like I am at

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Speaker 2: most days, and the majority of our youths are doing

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Speaker 2: the right thing. But unfortunately we've got a very small

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Speaker 2: portion who are doing the wrong thing and it's creating

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Speaker 2: havoc around Australia, particularly here in the territory and also

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of top end to top end crime,

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Speaker 3: like it's not you know, there's sure there's breaking inns,

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Speaker 3: but what we're seeing from a lot of youth, the

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Speaker 3: crimes like you know, the you I saw only a

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Speaker 3: Just serious, serious crimes being committed by minors in many cases,

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Speaker 3: and you know tragically, you know, miners driving cars just

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Speaker 3: early intervention in the families that are struggling, but it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head there.

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Speaker 2: We all understand that there needs to be intervention. No

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Speaker 2: for me, that's something that makes me feel really sad

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Speaker 2: when you think about an eight year old child, for example,

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Speaker 2: like we've seen in Alice Springs in recent weeks, engaged

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Speaker 4: To me, that is incredibly sad.

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Speaker 2: I've got a child that's eight years old and almost

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Speaker 4: Where you've got kids who are.

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Speaker 2: Committing pretty serious offenses, and you know, certainly the allegation

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Speaker 2: is that some of them are recidivius defenders and that

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Speaker 2: they are breaching bail conditions and doing the wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, it makes me wonder whether we just need

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Speaker 2: to take a bit of a leaf out of Queensland's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so many comparisons have been made between the

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Speaker 5: Queensland government's response and the Northern Territory government's response over

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Speaker 5: this issue. And at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 5: the Northern Territory government's coppying a lot of heat over

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Speaker 3: At the moment.

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Speaker 5: Annasaga Palage equally was copying a lot of flak over

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Speaker 5: some of her youth justice laws. They've come out with

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Speaker 5: that you know, generally we've seen these crime waves in

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Speaker 3: Last year, those incidents as in the Todd Mall.

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Speaker 5: It seems to be holding that, you know, the same

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Speaker 3: I've got to.

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Speaker 2: Say, I reckon the Chief Minister had a bit of

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Speaker 2: a change in his tone yesterday when we interviewed him.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a change in I reckon. They're going

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Speaker 2: to have to come out and make some make a

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Speaker 2: few changes. He did seem to acknowledge for the first

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Speaker 2: He was hesitant to say that it's the number one

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Speaker 2: say the safety of territorians and jobs is the biggest

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Speaker 2: think there's going to be plenty more in this space.

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Speaker 2: There always is, but the heat is on.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit interesting I find is that we've

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Speaker 3: just had a Royal commission, you know, called for after

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Speaker 3: the don Dale Full Corners report and the legislation and

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Speaker 3: what the politicians are driving in Queensland is in direct

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Speaker 3: contrast polar opposites to what the recommendations of the Royal

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Speaker 3: Commission were. The recommendations there were more support services, more

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Speaker 3: to try to cut people off from before they actually

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Speaker 3: someone on the BDR. So it's a similar way of

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Speaker 3: But it's in direct contrast to what the Royal Commission recommended.

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Speaker 3: So it's just interesting that we spend the money on

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Speaker 3: these Royal commissions, but yet politically and what the public expectations,

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Speaker 3: and let's be honest, a lot of the people that

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Speaker 3: make you know, it's a smaller minority of people that

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Speaker 3: make the most noise about crime that have fed up

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Speaker 3: usually people that have been a victim of it that

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Speaker 3: I find it interesting because the expectations or the people

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Speaker 5: And the government's in a rock and a hard place

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Speaker 5: now you know they have to implement those and they're

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Speaker 5: working on that. But you're right, Hayley, like it's politically

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Speaker 2: The moment, you know, and I said this to the

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Speaker 2: at their wits end. They're so upset, and particularly in

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Speaker 2: they need to sort of, you know, they need to

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Speaker 2: are being done in Queensland, see whether we can implement things,

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Speaker 2: see whether there are things that we can change in

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Speaker 3: Ring leaders, I really do like that. Get the people,

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Speaker 3: the ring leaders, the people that are engaging in this

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Speaker 3: hit hard. And you know, in out in Palmerston, we're

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Speaker 3: we've also got some really good community leaders, particularly working

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Speaker 3: think you know, one of our really good committees and

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Speaker 3: they Dot Committee were recognized on Australia Day Awards and

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Speaker 3: you know they do a really good job with our

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Speaker 3: young people. So we're always looking at ways of engaging

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Speaker 3: young people. And so there's part of that is, you know,

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Speaker 3: you need a little bit of the stick to the

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Speaker 3: ones that are really causing the problems. But I think

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Speaker 3: you hit the nail on the head Wolfing when you

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Speaker 3: said the vast majority of youth in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 3: of fantastic. And we've got some really good youth leaders

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Speaker 3: out in Parmy, which we're you know, we're.

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Speaker 2: We were just talking about fed fish, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to reveal what happened between the break there that

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Speaker 2: I had just reminded Damian Hale of one time when

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Speaker 2: him and I were doing this like fitness challenge and

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Speaker 2: he split.

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Speaker 2: I'm always healthy, but I always think it's good to

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Speaker 2: that charity Bernados has announced that it's scrapping its Mother

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Speaker 3: Some of the families, I can see where they're going

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Speaker 3: So you can understand that Bev's been Mother of the

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Speaker 4: Scrapping it all together.

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Speaker 2: It seems a bit of a shame to me to

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Speaker 2: We're going to do like get rid of Mother's Day

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Speaker 3: And just make it public holiday. We love them and

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Speaker 2: Most people of the community may not agree, well, if

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Speaker 3: But if you play your cards right, you've got annual leave,

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Speaker 4: Oh well, we don't even have time to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: all right. Nick Kurios says he's not going to accept

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seconds. Thirty seconds, mate, I take it and then

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Speaker 3: Who's that CURIOSA? When did curios become the moral compass

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Speaker 3: He's protecting Australia's reputation. I think the best way to

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Speaker 3: of them, all right, You give him a letus leave

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Speaker 3: if you had. It's funny because my mother in law

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Speaker 4: It really does well.

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Speaker 2: I tell you, I didn't think we could go more

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Speaker 2: but we have this morning with Hale.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 3: People tell me so good ay to me, and like, no,

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Speaker 3: this is about me and Wolfy and Maddie and Dave.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying to any.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's leave it. They're always good to catch up

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Damian Hale, Maddie Hepworth will catch

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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