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Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf.

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Speaker 1: You are our eyes and ears in the territory mixed

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Speaker 1: one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 2: And it is that time. Well, it's Wednesday morning, and

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Speaker 2: I tell you.

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Speaker 3: What, I don't know if I've had.

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Speaker 2: Both of these. It's Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 4: Goodness made yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's actually Tuesday morning because we've changed the Big Issues

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Speaker 2: now to a Tuesday morning, and it is time for

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Speaker 2: the Big Issues, which is now brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Kolano Community Association and Aboriginal oaned and operated and community

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Speaker 2: led organization from the top end to Tenant Creek and joining.

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Speaker 4: Us what.

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Speaker 3: He's doing.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't guess who's in the studio with me. I have,

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Speaker 2: of course got Dave Tolner and Damien Hale. Good morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 3: By Monnie Wolf.

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Speaker 2: With you both of you here in the studio for

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Speaker 2: the Big Issues yet together this year.

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Speaker 3: I think we've had one or two, haven't we.

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Speaker 2: We might have something like that, not on a Tuesday, though,

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Speaker 2: not on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: It is quiet wake over.

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Speaker 5: They've had to change the date so I can make

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Speaker 5: it just to shut up.

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Speaker 3: That was the listener's ringing in.

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Speaker 5: So I go traveling Wednesdays, so I had to change

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Speaker 5: the Tuesdays because I like seeing Dave, seeing.

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Speaker 2: Both, it's good to be in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Everyone thinks we're not mates. Don't you get on with Dave?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good mates on fire. We don't agree on politics.

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Speaker 2: So I actually think that this is a good lesson

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Speaker 2: for everybody that you don't have to have the same

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Speaker 2: political views as one of your friends. In fact, it's

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Speaker 2: very normal to not have the same political views as

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Speaker 2: your mates and you can still be mates when.

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Speaker 4: You're in politics. Believe it or not, it's far easy

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Speaker 4: to be friends with people on the other team. Well

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Speaker 4: it is because you know exactly well if you don't

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Speaker 4: know exactly where they're coming from.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Keep your friends closed, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I will just firstly go to this story, which is

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Speaker 2: obviously making new headlines around the territory. Chief Minister Michael

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Speaker 2: Gunner is now calling on the opposition leader Lea Finocchio

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Speaker 2: to provide evidence of allegations that territory labor members are

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Speaker 2: implicated in a cocaine sex scandal. As claims continue to

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Speaker 2: play out now. On the ABC this morning, the Chief

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Speaker 2: Minister once again referred to the allegations as rumors and

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Speaker 2: gossip and said that if Miss Finocchio had evidence of

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Speaker 2: these allegations, she would elevate them by taking them to

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Speaker 2: the police. Meanwhile, yesterday on the show, I spoke to

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Labor President Erina Early, and she said

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Speaker 2: to be an interesting day and parliament, I suspect.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's the time when the opposition leader does get

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Speaker 5: a chance under parliamentary privilege to push for the names

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Speaker 5: how can you be responsible for something written in bush Ranger?

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Speaker 5: Like if I if I'd done all the stuff in

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Speaker 5: had a much more interesting life than I've actually had.

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Speaker 4: Things you did, well, if you've got.

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Speaker 5: To get to a stage where we're having to as

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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, though it's not only in bush Ranger.

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Speaker 5: You know, forward and put the evidence forward, or don't,

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Speaker 5: like if you're not going to bring the evidence, and

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Speaker 2: As it's interesting to take, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: But if it's about sex, like, who cares if you're

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Speaker 5: The issue of cocaine, all right, If the issue of

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Speaker 5: cocaine is it's an illicit and illegal drug and if

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Speaker 5: this would come up. Now, cocaine in Colombia, the proper

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Speaker 5: Colombian marching powder is about three dollars fifty US a gram.

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Speaker 5: In Darwin they pay about four hundred dollars a grant

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Speaker 5: and it's been cut more times in Jeff Horn. So

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Speaker 5: why would you be spending four hundred dollars a grand

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Speaker 2: You don't want me to be taking an illicit substance anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's I guess my big question. It is illegal and

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Speaker 2: it's also you know, an incredibly you know, an incredibly

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Speaker 2: you know, an allegation that there is is this potentially

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Speaker 2: think that Aron Early made a good point yesterday and

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Speaker 4: There is.

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Speaker 2: I'll read her word for word, if there is anything

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Speaker 2: does need to be addressed. And I just think it's

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Speaker 2: interesting the situation we're in right now where the Chief

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well the thing is, look, we're gonna could kill

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Speaker 4: this in an instant. He just says to say, is

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Speaker 4: this is not true, It's never happened, it's you know,

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Speaker 4: but he hasn't said that. He said it's a rumor. Now,

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Speaker 4: you know, I could have started out as a rumor

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Speaker 4: and he is the Chief Minister, and you've got a

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Speaker 4: very very quickly. Like you say this rumor is everywhere

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Speaker 4: it has been for a while. He can certainly come

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Speaker 4: out tonight and say it's just never happened, but he

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Speaker 4: hasn't done that. But having said that, look, I'm not

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Speaker 4: even with something like that. We've got a system of

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Speaker 4: If people are found or broken the law, they should

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Speaker 4: that's what we should be focusing on in the territory.

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Speaker 4: But you know, having said that, the nature of politics

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Speaker 3: I think it needs to be The Lily's got a

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Speaker 5: You know, So today I suppose in question time it

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Speaker 4: This has got a mile toga And as you know, Haley,

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Speaker 4: this is a running saw, mate. This is not going away.

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Speaker 4: It's not going to go it's not going away, and

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Speaker 4: to address the matter immediately. So if there is some

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Speaker 4: nothing here, it's it's nonsense, it's lies, and put it

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Speaker 5: All the people who are making the allegation, well somewhere,

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Speaker 4: But that's not how it works in politics, Haley. As

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Speaker 4: you know, the leadership is with the chief unists.

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Speaker 3: Say whatever you like then about people, and.

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Speaker 4: So that's what happens, that's the thing, you know, And

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Speaker 4: it's a disgusting thing. But people say whatever they like.

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Speaker 2: But you know, where there's smoke, these fires, like trum Deans,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even up with this rumor. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: right now. It's not Saturday nights, that's for sure. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I am very boring. Let's just put it that way,

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Speaker 2: all right. Let's move along because there is lots to

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Speaker 2: on the COVID nineteen vaccine, and as of next week

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Speaker 2: and then it will obviously go further. I heard this

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Speaker 2: up to one thousand people a week once it's all

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Speaker 4: Look, everybody's going to be out there getting vaccinated. One

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Speaker 4: thing this does highlight is how far down the pecking

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Speaker 4: tens of millions of days as of vaccine delivered all

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Speaker 3: Everyone have about three goes.

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Speaker 6: I think you need a couple of I don't know

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Speaker 4: I just think the whole reaction to the pandemic has

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Speaker 4: been a bit of a joke. But I got no

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Speaker 4: dramas with having a vaxation vaccination. I know there's a

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Speaker 4: you know, good on them, But you know, I got

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Speaker 4: no dramas taking something that's been through all of the

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Speaker 4: You've got to trust someone, and if you're going to

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Speaker 4: start vaccinating an entire population, you'd want to pretty certain

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Speaker 5: I asked the question is it does it cover the

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Speaker 3: Does it cover the South African construct? So it's all

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Speaker 5: But I think the most vulnerable obviously up here is people,

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Speaker 4: Considering only sort of point three percent of the total

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Speaker 4: pop point three percent of the total population, is there

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Speaker 4: any sort of risk? You think they're the ones that

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Speaker 4: get at first.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I mean it amazes me how you can have all

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Speaker 4: the most vulnerable. Why weren't we protecting them right from

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Speaker 4: the word go? It's got me somewhere else, I know, Hale,

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Speaker 4: Are you just sitting there and know it's a federal responsibility,

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's someone's responsibility,

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Speaker 4: and you know we should have been what.

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Speaker 3: We get in.

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Speaker 2: was in The Australian yesterday. Labour's opposition to the expansion

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Speaker 4: It's a very difficult juggle for Labor. But one thing

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Speaker 2: So like obviously it's that you know what you work as,

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Speaker 4: So you can't you can't suggest this is a left

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Speaker 5: It's also a leadership issue, like we've had a decade

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Speaker 5: and we're still having the same arguments about climate change

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Speaker 2: So very.

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Speaker 5: Tony Abbott ran a flat earth campaign and got voted

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Speaker 5: we're still bogged down. So the reason the reason they

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Speaker 5: But we have the debate between the Labor Party different factions,

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Speaker 3: As quick as we can hand.

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Speaker 5: So there's always going to be a debate in the

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Speaker 5: so no one's allowed to talk about climate change. No

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Speaker 5: Wants to show some leadership on it, and what's Dave

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Speaker 5: It's a flat earther. No, he doesn't believe in climate change.

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Speaker 4: That's that's twisting things. I mean. Tony Abbott was very

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Speaker 3: He put in plays that humans.

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Speaker 4: He put in a place a system called direct action

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Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, Australia was the only one of the very

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Speaker 2: Going to move a little, gents, because I know that

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Speaker 2: wonderful event that's coming up. I know I talk about

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Speaker 3: He wants to sell something.

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Speaker 2: Now I want to talk about I've had a message

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Speaker 2: at the Mad Snake and they're hosting two events or

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Speaker 2: Mad Snake Too Sorry is hosting a veterans fundraiser on

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth of February. All money is going towards reeling veterans,

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Speaker 2: which will be a big boost to the VET commit unity.

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Speaker 2: So they're raising money. These guys do a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 2: They go out, you know, like they do this fishing

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Speaker 3: It is in the morning.

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Speaker 2: They go six thirty in the morning. This is something

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Speaker 4: It's a big day for me and the Big Boy.

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Speaker 4: We do that one in the morning. At lunchtime, we're

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Speaker 4: off to be the entertainment at a fund Raiser's a

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Speaker 4: Junior Guys.

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Speaker 3: Friday.

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Speaker 2: Are you so you guys are saying or you're singing?

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Speaker 2: You made it sound the.

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Speaker 4: Paid entertainment well, sorry, fun paid entertainments.

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Speaker 3: A fundraiser for kids.

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Speaker 5: Go, well, I'm going for nothing days of course getting

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Speaker 3: This is going you have to play.

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Speaker 4: It's a fundraise If it's for Junior.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you what if anybody else would like

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Speaker 5: So let's just get along if you want to where's

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Speaker 3: Where do we have to be those pee wee's.

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Speaker 4: At Peewee's at lunch time at us on Fridays?

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Speaker 2: Just helping the youngsters to be able to obviously I'm

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Speaker 4: So now I believe it or not, it might not

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Speaker 4: look at but we used to be both in the sport.

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Speaker 4: But it's a good pass time for young kids to

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Speaker 4: get out, get in the sun. And whether they're playing

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Speaker 4: golf or footing, or boxing or cycling or swimming, you know,

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Speaker 4: they should be doing something and they actually are out

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Speaker 4: there to encourage the better sporting role models.

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Speaker 2: Look at you both excellent now, I reckon that's a

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Speaker 2: wonderful thing, and good on you both for doing that

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Speaker 2: and help you and let's get off.

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Speaker 4: The veterans as well of people and they've they've done

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Speaker 4: a bit for our country.

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Speaker 2: They most certainly have. Well, it's always wonderful to have

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Speaker 2: you too in the studio. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time, Dave, to be with you, Wolf, and.

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Speaker 4: I would say the same about Haley Coom.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have been listening to the big issues which

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Speaker 2: has proadly been brought to you by Kolano Community Association.