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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the fourth of August. US Speaker Nancy Pelosi has awarded

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Speaker 1: in Taiwan.

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Speaker 2: China had said the visit would cross a red line.

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Speaker 2: Just heart our correspondent say there will be overnight military exercises.

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Speaker 3: Beijing had warned the US was playing with fire.

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Speaker 1: US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made a very controversial trip

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Speaker 1: to Taiwan yesterday was plastered all over Global News. Will

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Speaker 1: tell you about why it was so significant in a second,

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Speaker 1: but first, Zara, what is making headlines this morning.

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Speaker 2: Federal Greens leader Adam Bank confirmed yesterday in a National

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Speaker 2: Press Club speech that his party, the Greens, will be

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Speaker 2: supporting Labour's Climate Bill. The legislation is aiming to enshrine

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Speaker 2: a forty three percent emissions reduction target by twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: and here Labor really needed the support of the Greens

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Speaker 2: so that the legislation could pass through the Senate, which

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Speaker 2: it now looks like it's going to do.

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Speaker 1: Bring you Brolly. The Bureau of me has confirmed that

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Speaker 1: a new weather event will bring increased rainfall to much

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Speaker 1: of Australia in the coming months. That's just the news

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Speaker 1: we all wanted to hear. The event is called a

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Speaker 1: negative Indian Ocean dipole and it's a natural phenomenon that

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Speaker 1: typically brings more rainfall to the southern parts of Australia

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Speaker 1: while bringing warmer weather to the north. It could also

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Speaker 1: increase the possibility of a Le Nina event returning later

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Federal Health Minister Mark Butler has announced that children aged

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Speaker 2: six months to five years who are immuna compromised or

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Speaker 2: live with a disability will be eligible for the Maderna

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen vaccine. The vaccine is currently not recommended for

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Speaker 2: young children if they don't have a health condition, and

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Speaker 2: only a small amount of vaccine sites will be administering

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Speaker 2: this vaccine to children who are medically vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: And in today's good news, Canadian soccer star Alfonso Davies

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Speaker 1: has pledged to donate his entire earnings from this year's

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Speaker 1: World Cup to charity. Davies was born in a refugee

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Speaker 1: camp in Ghana, and he took to Twitter to make

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Speaker 1: the announcement yesterday, saying that Canada will welcomed him and

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Speaker 1: his family and the country enabled him to live his dreams.

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Speaker 2: Sam Yesterday, you and I were doing an event where

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Speaker 2: we were sitting with newspapers going through what the big

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Speaker 2: stories of the day were, and at that time and

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Speaker 2: certainly still right now, the biggest story was Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 2: visiting Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: We're definitely going to put this story in the basket

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Speaker 1: of need to know a bit of context before we

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Speaker 1: can fully engage with it. So let's start with Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: It's an island separated from China by the Taiwan Strait.

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Speaker 1: There is this really long history of territorial tension after

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Speaker 1: Japan gave up Taiwan following World War II. Now, Taiwan

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Speaker 1: sees itself as a sovereign state, and what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that is that it's a state independent from any other.

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Speaker 1: But China sees Taiwan as one of its provinces. China's

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Speaker 1: previously said that reunification with Taiwan must be fulfilled and

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Speaker 1: that it has the right to use military force to

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Speaker 1: do this.

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Speaker 2: So then how does a nation like the US deal

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Speaker 2: with this complexity?

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Speaker 1: Try and think about it like this. Imagine you had

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Speaker 1: an next door neighbor and they had a granny flat. Now,

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Speaker 1: the way that the US views China is that they're

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Speaker 1: the owner of the house, including the Granny Flat, but

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Speaker 1: they still want to have a relation with the tenant

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Speaker 1: in the Granny Flat. And that's exactly what the one

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Speaker 1: China policy is. The US are recognizing that China owns

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Speaker 1: the house and that there's a sole owner of that house,

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Speaker 1: being China, and Australia actually also recognizes this one China policy.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, the US has maintained their

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Speaker 1: relationship with the Granny Flat. With Taiwan, they've maintained what

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Speaker 1: they call a robust unofficial relationship as they share in

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Speaker 1: their words, similar values, deep commercial and economic links, and

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Speaker 1: strong people to people ties.

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Speaker 2: So you've described the relationship between the US and China,

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Speaker 2: and China and Taiwan, but you haven't expressed really what

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Speaker 2: Taiwan wants out of all of this. Where does Taiwan

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Speaker 2: stand in this debate.

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Speaker 1: They're in a tricky situation. Ideally, they want to be

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Speaker 1: a fully sovereign state and they've made that very clear.

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Speaker 1: Their government has made that very clear. They want to be,

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Speaker 1: as they describe themselves, a democratic country which has its

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Speaker 1: own national identity, but in order to protect themselves against

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Speaker 1: the threat of a Chinese invasion. They kind of need

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Speaker 1: to have the US, Australia and other allied countries on

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Speaker 1: their side because they get supplied with weapons and a

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Speaker 1: big part of their protection is having these Western allies.

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Speaker 1: So they have to tread very lightly in all of

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Speaker 1: those relationships. It's been a similar situation for a number

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Speaker 1: of decades now, and it doesn't look like anything's majorly

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Speaker 1: going to change quickly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it might not be changing quickly. But enter Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 2: Why are we talking about her? And what has happened

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Speaker 2: that is so significant.

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Speaker 1: So she's the speaker of the US House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: That's a really senior position in the lower House. She's

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Speaker 1: second in line to the president after the vice president.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi has been around for decades and she's always

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Speaker 1: been a real fighter for democratic freedoms and values all

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Speaker 1: over the world. So Nancy Pelosi had this trip planned

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Speaker 1: to Asian nations, not particularly unusual for a speaker, And

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Speaker 1: we didn't know whether Taiwan would be part of that

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Speaker 1: itinery or not, but.

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Speaker 2: There were certainly some whispers about it. It didn't come

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Speaker 2: from nowhere. She had been asked about it before but

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Speaker 2: hadn't confirmed it right.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't confirm it because China was so discouraging

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Speaker 1: of it, because in China's eyes, it would be sort

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Speaker 1: of an endorsement of a stronger relationship than China would

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Speaker 1: like between the two countries.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very temperate way of describing what

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Speaker 2: Chinese President Ji Jinping said. He warned US President Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden against Pelosi's visit, and I quote he said, if

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Speaker 2: you play with fire, you get burned.

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Speaker 1: And this is not the first time China's used that

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Speaker 1: sort of language. They then drove the message home by

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Speaker 1: conducting live fire military exercises in the Taiwan Strait in

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Speaker 1: the lead up to Pelosi's visit.

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Speaker 2: When news broke that Pelosi was actually heading to Taiwan,

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people were reportedly tracking her flight,

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Speaker 2: which is just incredible to think about. They watched as

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Speaker 2: her US air Force plane took off from Malaysia, then

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Speaker 2: cum navigated the South China Sea and landed in Taiwan

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Speaker 2: seven hours later.

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Speaker 1: It's important to remember that she is the highest ranking

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Speaker 1: official from the US to visit Taiwan in twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and on that note, what can we expect from

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Speaker 2: her visit.

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Speaker 1: So when Pelosi announced her visit, she was very much

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Speaker 1: talking up the importance of supporting Taiwan's democracy, and this

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Speaker 1: time continued when she made her first address in Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: she emphasized the positive relationship between Taiwan and the US.

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Speaker 3: We come in friendship to Taiwan. We come in peace

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Speaker 3: for the region and understanding the value of peace and

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Speaker 3: the avoidance of conflict.

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Speaker 2: I can't say amidom Wow meets Jusy.

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Speaker 1: She's there right now. She met with some senior Taiwanese leadership,

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Speaker 1: and the whole world is really watching to see how

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Speaker 1: this plays out.

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Speaker 2: So when this visit was a hypothetical, when Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 2: hadn't confirmed she was going, we obviously saw quite a

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Speaker 2: strong response from China. Now that it has happened, what

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Speaker 2: are we seeing from China.

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Speaker 1: There's been a pretty sharp re spons from the Chinese government.

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Speaker 1: They placed some new trade restrictions on Taiwan, and they

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Speaker 1: announced these military exercises that they have now carried through Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: Have reported China for these military exercises straight to the UN. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's not particularly a lot of action that the UN

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Speaker 1: can take here, but nonetheless, it's definitely quite a spiky relationship.

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Speaker 2: What's your key takeaway from this, then, Sam, Is this

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Speaker 2: something we should be worried about.

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Speaker 1: I think there's been one world event that's really changed

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Speaker 1: the tone of everything this year, and that is on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the world, Russia invading Ukraine. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of brought in this idea of these smaller territories

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Speaker 1: with disputed histories being invaded by their bigger neighbor, and

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Speaker 1: it's important for all countries to work out where they

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Speaker 1: stand on that sort of relationship. Even I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Australian government just announced a review into our own military

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Speaker 1: to make sure that where in their words, batt already

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Speaker 1: and prepared for war. Now. I'm not suggesting here that

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Speaker 1: there is going to be a war imminently, especially not

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Speaker 1: around China and Taiwan, because it's been a pretty stable

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Speaker 1: in many ways situation for the last three decades or so.

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Speaker 1: But it's clearly bringing that relationship into the focus.

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Speaker 2: That's all we have time for today. Thanks for joining

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