1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rap, a weekly podcast about women's sports 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: news and the big stories. Every episode will cover what's 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: happened over the weekend, a favorite story, and what to 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: watch in the coming week. My name is Chloe Dalton. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm an Olympic gold medalist in rugby sevens and an 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: AFLW player, and I'm joined for the very first time 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: by my co host, Millie Dawson. Millly is an athlete 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: manager who works with some of Australia's top female athletes. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Mills, thanks for having me. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I usually am well obviously interviewed athletes, 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: but I'm usually by myself in hosting, so I'm glad 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I've got a bit of company. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: No, this will be fun. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: So, Mills, what are we trying to achieve with this 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: weekly podcast? 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: Our goal with this is to share the stories of 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: female athletes and to make the news and highlights about 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: women's sport accessible and digestible. 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: The coming up on today's episode will be joined by 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Professor Claire Hanlin to chat about a recent study that 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: looked into the importance of comfortable uniforms for girls playing sport. 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, instead of those ridiculous crinkle cut skirts we used 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: to wear in primary school to play sport. 25 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: They were more ridiculous. We used to have to wear 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: like scungies underneath the bike pants. 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Like and what a throwback? 28 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: What a throwback? All right, let's take a look at 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: around the grounds. 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: This weekend, Lana Rodgers claimed back to back Nutro Grain 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: and Iron Woman titles. 32 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: So they had round six of the Nutri Grain Iron 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Women Series at Kingscliff Beach and Lana Rodgers was pretty 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: impressive over the weekend, and so she'd taken out the 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: series in twenty twenty and has done the same in 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, So pretty impressive effort. Well done, Lana. 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: In basketball news, Liz Mills is leading the way in Kenya. 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah so. Liz Mills is an Australian basketball coach who 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: grew up playing netball and is a proclaimed self taught basketballer. 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: So she started coaching in Sydney before moving over to 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Africa and kind of building up her career there. So 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: she is currently the head coach of the Kenyan men's 43 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: national team and she's breaking new ground over there in Africa. 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: She's the first woman to lead men's national team to 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: a continental championship with their win over the weekend. 46 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 47 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: In golf News, Steph Kerriaku and Sarah Wilson were the 48 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: first women to play in the Queensland Open. 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: Actually I've stuffed that up because they haven't played yet, 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: but they will be the first women to do that, LOLLI. 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: So that's from the eleventh the fourteenth of March that 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: that's coming up, so it's really cool. So they're actually 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: going to be playing against the men, which is obviously 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: not a common thing that happens across a lot of sports. 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: And we see the teenage boy trolls that like to 56 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: come onto our Instagram page to say that when we 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: can bear men's and women's sports, that the women don't 58 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: actually play against the men, which is it's a valid point, 59 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: and I think when we look at golf, I know 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: these two girls who are playing in this tournament have 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: talked about the biological differences in terms of the distance 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: of the men's drives obviously being a lot further so, 63 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the girls when they're going into this competition have to 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: be pretty tactical about how they're getting it onto the 65 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: green once they get closer. But I think Golf Australia 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: has done a massive amount of work in their diversity 67 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: sector and they're really pushing that gender equality space. So 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: hats off to go for Australia to allowing the opportunity 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: for women to play in these tournaments alongside the men. 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting to see where that goes next. 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited to watch that one. 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Now onto the key story of the week. 73 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Jess Stuffin returns to AFLW after seven hundred and fourteen 74 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: days off. 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a long time. That is a big, big hats 76 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: off to Jess Stuffin. So she's a pretty incredible duell athlete. 77 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: She's played cricket for years and years with the Australian 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: women's side. In the twenty thirteen season, she was awarded 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: the Belinda C. Clark Award for being Australia's best international 80 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: women's cricketer for the previous year. She's been Player of 81 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the Tournament for multiple twenty twenty tournaments when she was 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: playing for Australia. She's captained the Melbourne Renegades in the 83 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Big Bash and she also plays in the AFLW for 84 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: North Melbourne who heartbreakingly beat My Carlton team over the weekend. 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Jess on that milestone. The reason she was 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: out for seven hundred and fourteen days, which was the 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: key part of the story that I missed, was that 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: she had a baby, baby Georgie So had a baby 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: and then had a few issues I think around an 90 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: aductor injury. So yeah, big ups suggests. I think that's 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: incredible to go through pregnancy, giving birth, and then to 92 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: get your body in shape to come back and play 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: at that level. 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge. I'm excited to watch her in this season. 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Up next the presser. 96 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: So, there's some. 97 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: Really interesting research coming out of Victoria, Clode, you want 98 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: to tell us a bit about it. 99 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: National research conducted by Victoria University has highlighted the importance 100 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: of uniforms that make teenage girls feel comfortable and confident. 101 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: We've got lead researcher, Professor Claire Hanlin on the line 102 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: to tell us more about this study. Claire, thanks so 103 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: much for joining. 104 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: Us absolute pleasure. 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit more about the 106 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: key findings from this study that you've conducted. 107 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, the research team, in collaboration with the Change 108 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: Our Game initiative and school Sport Victoria we looked at 109 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: a study for twelve to eighteen year old girls where 110 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: we survey to identify and what do they actually want 111 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: in sport uniforms to make them feel comfortable as well 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: as confident within themselves to go out and play sport. 113 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: You can have the great facilities and programs for girls, 114 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: but if you're going to have sport uniforms that aren't 115 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: going to make girls feel comfortable to play, you're going 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: to flat out get them to the actual facility. So 117 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: what we actually found from the survey was that girls 118 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: actually prefer function rather than fashion, and that is that 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 4: they'd prefer material that's breathable, the hide sweat, it's stretchy, 120 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 4: and also start colored bottoms. And with that they also 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: ninety percent prefer to wear shorts and the majority of 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 4: girls prefer to wear t shirts and not to wear skirts. Also, 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: the main area was options. Girls want options so that 124 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: they feel they're empowered to have a choice. Hopefully, the 125 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 4: infographic that's being designed and you can download it on 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: the vig Uni website or the Change our Game website, 127 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: and there's a Victorian study and a national study. These 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: studies basically have been formed into infographics to help guide 129 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: schools and sport clubs in relation to the policies and practices. 130 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Okay, great, And when you're conducting this research and from 131 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the results that have come from it, why do you 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: think it is important for girls to feel comfortable and 133 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: confident when they're playing sport. 134 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 4: Even after releasing these findings on Thursday Friday, the feedback, 135 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: whether that beyond radio or via emails was overwhelming based 136 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: on their number of women or girls who have said 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: that they have pulled out of sport because of the 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: uniforms that they've worn. Wow, I've even in relation to 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: the survey itself, we had open ended questions the number 140 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: of girls that said, please stop making us wear white shorts. 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 4: We feel we don't know when our monthly comes and 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: we're embarrassed at times. A girl looking at someone who's 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 4: playing nationally, if it's an outfit that may not be 144 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: as flexible or oriented towards making you feel comfortable, that 145 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: could actually deter the girl from playing the sport. And again, 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: that feedback was received from women as well as girls 147 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: who participated in the survey, so it's massive sport uniforms 148 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: play a key role to encouraging girls to not only 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: a tract, but also to remain playing the sport. 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Which is such a big part of it. I haven't 151 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: think back to when I was in primary school, which 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: wasn't too long ago, and thinking about playing sport in 153 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a red pleated skirt, which is I guess quite a 154 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: ridiculous thought to think that we were running around with 155 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the boys and we had our skirts on, trying to 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: be active and do all those things. And then I 157 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: know there's been some discussion around with AFLW how the 158 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: way shorts a white color like you were touching on there. 159 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: So there's obviously a few different areas that can be 160 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: addressed with this. So it was funded, the research was 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: fun by the Victorian government and it's obviously been some 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: really key findings in there. What do you think the 163 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: next step is from here to be able to implement 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: them and make change, whether that's at community sport level, 165 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: grassroots or in schools and then on to professional level 166 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: as well. 167 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: We're interested in impacts, so we're in discussions at the 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: moment with the Victorian government with Change our Game as 169 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: well as school Sport Victoria and talking about how can 170 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: we create impact based on these outcomes. So it's not 171 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: just here's an infographic. Seat later, it's like, here's an 172 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: infographic to start reflection, to start looking at what policies 173 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: and practices you have, but let's look at the impact. 174 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: That's what we want, That's what the Victorian government wants. 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: That's what we want at school support Victoria as well 176 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: in order to further encourage more girls to play sports. 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for giving up your time and 178 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: sharing some incredible insights about the amazing work that you're doing. 179 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: Leisure and keep up the great work for your podcast. 180 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: Here's what we can't wait to watch this week in 181 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: women's sport in Nepal. 182 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: Our Australian Diamonds have finally come out of their two 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: week mandatory quarantine in New Zealand and they'll be taking 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: on the Silver Ferns tonight Tuesday, second of March at 185 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: five pm Australian Eastern Daylight Savings time. You can watch 186 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: this live on nine GM. 187 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Maddie Proud, who was on the podcast this season, could 188 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: potentially be making her international debut, So good luck Maddie. 189 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh how exciting. 190 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: In UFC, Australian Meghan Anderson is up against Amanda Nunes 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: in the co main event of the UFC two five nine. 192 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: Amanda Nunez has won eleven fights in a row, with 193 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: eight consecutive wins in the UFC title fights. 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: You can watch that this Sunday on March seventh. 195 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Good Luck Meaghan, can't wait to watch up the Aussies 196 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: And that's the Rap. 197 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. 198 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: We really hope you enjoyed our very first episode of 199 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: the Rap. 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Sorry, I needed a break 208 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: because I had back surgery. 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: You can find us on Instagram at the Female Athlete 210 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: Project and keep an ear out for a next episode 211 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: of the podcast on Thursday, where Chloe chats to an 212 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: AFLW player. 213 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: With a really big kick. Well done, males, first episode, 214 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: I reckon, you nailed that. 215 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: How did I do with my podcasting? Debut. 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I love that I'm the experience podcast. I've done like 217 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: eight episodes. Nice males, but 218 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Such experience podcast is now