1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jonesy. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: What a few weeks Our next guest has had six 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: weeks on the campaign trail, got COVID halfway through, wins 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: an election, becomes Prime Minister of Australia, jets off to 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Japan to meet the likes of Joe Biden, comes back home, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: moves home, gets Courtney's PJS, swears in a new government, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: moves house, jets off to Indonesia. Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi, Hello, good. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: Morning, it was. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Wow, it sure has. We saw that you were there 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: last night at the State of Origin. You attempted to 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: get one of those haircuts like Jack White and perhaps. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, no one wants to say that. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: Well, is it true that someone came up to you 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: and the dunny and said are you someone famous? 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: It is true. That's a great country, it. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: Is, and you just say, yeah, well I'm the Prime 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: minister mate. 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of being prime Minister and having to get 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: used to that, you were photographed going to collect the 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: newspaper at the front of your home in Marrickville. You 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: had your UG but you had your PJS on. Did 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: you say when you saw that picture printed, go, oh, 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: that's right. I'm Prime Minister. I have to dress like 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: a grown up now. 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: No, I just have to be made that's me keeping 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: my feet on the ground. I didn't know that photo 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: had been taken. I'm still in Marrickvil at the moment, 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: speaking to you from here, and I was wearing a 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: very old Newtown Jets jumper, had bits of red hanging 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: off and everywhere. But that's what people do, isn't it 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: early in the morning. 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's what well. 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm here usually, but I dress like I'm hosting the 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: logans every time I leave my home. But that's a 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: different story. 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: But you must have. 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Been that's your great credit I got. I'm backing, pretty 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: slothful around the house. 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: A man's always camera ready. But it must have been 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: hard for you as soon as you won the election 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: and then next minute you're talking to Joe Biden. That 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: how surreal is. 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: That it was pretty full on. Because normal I'd be 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: sworn in around about now, after two and a half 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: or three weeks from the election. But because the Quad 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: leaders meeting was so important that we go to it. 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: We did have discussions with the Department of Prime Minister 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: and Cabinet the week beforehand in Canberra, and they were 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: very keen. It was clearly in Australia's interest to be 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: there with the leaders of the US, Japan, and India, 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: pretty important countries for US. So we put in place 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the swearing in of a five person government on the 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Monday morning at nine am, and then we were on 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the plane and then were meeting the next day. I 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: think it sent a really good message about the strength 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: of our democracy here in Australia to the world that 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: there was just this smooth transition of a change of 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: government and there we were with many of the same 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: policies in terms of our natural security issues. Our aligns 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: with the United States is something that's not a partisan issue, 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: and our friendship with Japan and India is also something 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that's not partisan. But we obviously have a different position 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: on issues like climate tanes and that was welcomed by 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: our partners internationally, as it's been welcomed when I was 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: in Indonesia this week and a big. 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Week in Indonesia and there's Penny Wong bursting out of 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: Indonesian who knew. 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, but Bahatha is of course, there's a difference 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: apparently between Bahasa Malaysian and Bahasa Indonesian, but they're pretty close, 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: clearly from the same family of languages. And there was 71 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Penny and Luke Goslam as well our member Solomon in Darwin. 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: He's very fluent in Bahasa Indonesian. So it was pretty good. 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: And we had ed Husick with us as well, Industry minister, 74 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: who's the first Muslim Cabinet minister in Australia. And it 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: just shows the strength of Australian society and our mother culturalism, 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, it's just one of the team, 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: and that was welcomed I think in Indonesia as well. 78 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: And of course you wore the shirt. Don't talk yourself down. 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: You wore the Indonesian shirt. 80 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Did you bring it home? 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: You've got to wear the well. I took that one 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: up there. I wore a couple. I got the shirt 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: done for President Wodode's visit to Australia when he addressed 84 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: to Parliament. It's actually a batique from his village of Solo, 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: which is on Java, and so it was it was 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: very much welcome. So I brought that back and I 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: also brought back the bamboo bike. I think it's probably 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: in custom somewhere. 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: It's getting fumigated as we speak, but. 90 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: We brought it back on the on the on the plane, 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: it was. It was a really nice, warm gesture from 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: the President to go on a bike ride where we 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: had our one on one discussion before we sat down 94 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: for a one on one and for him it was 95 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: of great significance that symbolized both of our humble beginnings 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: given the positions we now hold. And the bike is 97 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: really important for Indonesia because it's not just a form 98 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: of transport in whole parts of Indonesia, it eats everything. 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: So everything happens with the bicycle. 100 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: And he didn't spring that. He didn't spring that. Didn't 101 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: spring it on you though you knew that you were 102 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: going to go for a bike ride, because imagine if 103 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: you got all this way and you couldn't ride a bike, or. 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: You were wearing your floors the night before through our 105 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: bass I said, Preme Minister, can you ride a bike? Yeah? 106 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: I used to get around. We didn't have a car 107 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: in my family, so I had nothing but a bike 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: is what I got to. I only learned to drive 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: in my mid mid twenties or early twenties. As you know, 110 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: if you live in the in the in the west, 111 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: you can get around on a bicycle a bit, and 112 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: so it was. It was good fun, although I must 113 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: say we went really really slowly at the beginning, and 114 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: I did say the President we maybe a bit. It's 115 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: really hard to ride a bike at one kilometer an 116 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: hour with cameras all around you. 117 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: Have you got that? Have you got the bamboo training. 118 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: Wheels we needed? When they said a bamboo bike, I 119 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: was like, what's a bamboo bike? Actually, like you know, 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: but it was yeah, no, it's a sustainable bike as well, 121 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: which was a part of him sending a message that 122 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: the President was very keen on cooperating with Australian businesses 123 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: on what they want to do, which is to reduce 124 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: their emissions. And of course for them, it's not just 125 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: about climate change, it's about air pollution as well. That's 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: why they're very keen on cooperating with us, which means 127 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: there are investment opportunities for Australian businesses as well. Well. 128 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: We've been speaking about how your life has changed in 129 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks for your partner Jody as well. 130 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Is she annoyed that you don't want to go to 131 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Kurribilly House. Are you going to settle in Canberra? 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Not at all. No, we'll be hosting tonight just into 133 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Odurn at Kurabilly. I haven't been there yet, and I've 134 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: been there with former prime ministers. Didn't score an invite 135 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: off the last one, but I have been there in 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: the past. But we're hosting just in there. It is inevitable. 137 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that you spend more time as prime minister 138 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: in Campbell than you do in Sydney. But when I'm 139 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: in Sydney, I will stay at kira Billy. But at 140 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: this point I haven't stayed there yet. But the lodge 141 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: is pretty nice. I've got to say it's a better 142 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: form of public housing than the one I grew up. 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: Well fair enough to Yeah, and if you need someone 144 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: to look after Kirabilly, we can do that. 145 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: Yes. 146 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: If you need someone that does look after it while 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: you're not there, just give us a call. 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: Can we actually just look at putting a jet ski 149 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: dock in there and perhaps putting jet skis back into 150 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: Sydney Harbor just while. 151 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: We got you there. I'm not sure anyone wants to 152 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: wants that to happen before I do know well, that's 153 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a part of one besides yourself. 154 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Well, Prime Minister Anthony Albanezy, it's great to talk to you. 155 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: Congratulations on your win and good luck in the future. 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll be. 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: To catch up bring you before too long. 158 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Indeed, thanks very much, God, thank you,