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Speaker 1: Now we know the City of Darwin's calling on the

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Speaker 1: community to share their final feedback on the draft Bundila

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Speaker 1: Beach Area master Plan as part of a second phase

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Speaker 1: of engagement on that project. Now joining us in the

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Speaker 1: studio is the Lord Mayor of Darwin. Convat scarlets, goodboarding, corn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning kid, and I'm so pleased. In the first

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Speaker 2: stage we had seven hundred people that actually responded, which

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Speaker 2: was really really good. So we're proceeding now from the

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Speaker 2: middle of the year to actually establish the dog park,

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Speaker 2: the half court basketball court, do a lot of working

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Speaker 2: Pandilla to change it so we actually become a people friendly,

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Speaker 2: attract more people, and of course we are going to

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Speaker 2: put the Cyclone Tracing monument there by November, a big

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Speaker 2: nine meters kinetic monument. It would move with a wind

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Speaker 2: and to pay homage to the people that they went

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Speaker 2: through Cyclon tracing. The second stage now is we want

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Speaker 2: to know people think about the next five to seven

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Speaker 2: years because we plan to actually change the role currently

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Speaker 2: around of the load to push it back. Put their

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Speaker 2: platform for fishing in the lake that's there believed or

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Speaker 2: not there are fishs there. Put more trees, increase the

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Speaker 2: canopy by eighty five percent and change the whole place

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Speaker 2: to make a place where people want to be. That

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Speaker 2: would be like another Nightcliff Night to Foreshore that for

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Speaker 2: the people that living decide or the city.

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Speaker 3: I reckon it's a really good idea.

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Speaker 1: It is a beautiful area, but very often it's sort

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Speaker 1: of plagued with anti social behavior. I go running around

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Speaker 1: there sometimes, and to be honest with you, unless I'm

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Speaker 1: with someone I actually like, I actually feel like it's

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Speaker 2: And I agree with you. And we have found out

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Speaker 2: that if we actually activate a place, you bring people in,

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Speaker 2: all the people that course that this is a behavior issues,

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Speaker 2: they just disappear. They go somewhere. I know, they go

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Speaker 2: somewhere else. But at least there's peaceon quite in that area.

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Speaker 1: And so con when is this work going to get

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Speaker 1: on to waya the first stage, you know, in terms

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Speaker 2: The middle of the year. Yeah, and we expect to

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Speaker 2: finish by the end of the year, okay, and then

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Speaker 2: we will proceed with the next design and everything else

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Speaker 2: for the next stage. From between three five years, we've

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Speaker 2: got three and a half thousand and three and a

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Speaker 2: half million dollars, three million dollars from the gunment, half

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Speaker 2: a million dollars from the city council. So we work

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Speaker 2: very close to get delivered for our community something outstanding,

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Speaker 2: because that's what that thing it is. Think about it.

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Speaker 2: Be there sitting down with chair and table, and we

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Speaker 2: plan to have a couple of only a couple of

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Speaker 2: the yacht club, the trail boat club, the ski club,

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Speaker 2: so we don't want to compete with them, but some

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Speaker 2: barbecues people can bring their own food to cook it.

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Speaker 2: So sit down there and experience something the real dog.

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Speaker 3: It's a great idea, especially in the draw well, a

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Speaker 3: little bit like what you see at the point of course.

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Speaker 3: You know you got ken scrapes down there or you

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Speaker 3: know which have a food then you've got there. It's

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Speaker 2: It's a city. You sit in the open air, not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, look, I think it's a good idea really

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Speaker 3: But there was discussion about a v park the call

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to happen there. We think it's

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Speaker 2: an appropriate for that area, that it would be better

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Speaker 2: for open activation. There are other places down when we

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Speaker 2: I say Irvi Park doesn't mean an ivy park which

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Speaker 2: It might be two days maximum and move on something

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Speaker 2: to have a respite and recharge your buttteries. What's the

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Speaker 2: sunset and go on. But it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: Go on some of the message through and say could

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Speaker 1: you please ask the Lord mayor who is Bondilla? And

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Speaker 1: when the public consultation was carried out for the name

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Speaker 1: change of Vesta's Beach, yeah, two years.

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Speaker 2: Ago by the name it used to because Vestis, it

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Speaker 1: The name now tell me expressions of interest a now

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Speaker 1: as well for local artists to apply to showcase they

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Speaker 1: work through the next installment of the City of Darwin's

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Speaker 1: light Box exhibition series, Where's this and What's it?

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Speaker 2: All about if you want to show your work, If

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Speaker 2: you're an artist and you want to saw it somewhere

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Speaker 2: prominently like the mall, Dragonfly car Park and outside the

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Speaker 2: Nightclift Pool, please come and talk to us. We'd love

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Speaker 2: to hear see your proposals. You can put your expression

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Speaker 2: on inders until Friday, the third of May and you

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Speaker 2: can receive up to eight and a half thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: for your work, and your work be published or be

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Speaker 2: you can see these big frames which light behind it.

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Speaker 2: We displayed all the work there and they'd been quite popular.

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Speaker 2: I have since some incredible work be displayed there and

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud to actually walk in the street and

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Speaker 2: have public card displayed in light boxes and be helped

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Speaker 2: by the council.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh look it's again.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to be able to say, and

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Speaker 1: it's good to make the city look nicer to see

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Speaker 1: some of that local talent on display. Connor did get

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Speaker 1: an email from one of our listeners, Carrie Now. She

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask if we could ask you next time

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Speaker 1: you're on the show about mall secure.

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Speaker 3: The word is.

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Speaker 1: Around town that council may not renew the security contract.

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Speaker 1: US traders in the CBD will be up Shit's Creek

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Speaker 3: Very concerned, says carry Kerry.

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Speaker 2: I've been having all along that I want, not security.

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Speaker 2: That security has no powers to move people to pour

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Speaker 2: alcohol out. They might look good, might give you some

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Speaker 2: security by looking at them, But the one I want,

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Speaker 2: I want the dark blue, not allied blue people, the

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Speaker 2: dark blue, which is the policeman. I'll give you an

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Speaker 2: The ilic Spring mayor told me that there were people

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Speaker 2: for the gang members. I want to buy some beer

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Speaker 2: four policemen asked me where we were am I? So

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Speaker 2: my lastest before I buy the alcohol. So police on

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Speaker 2: the street, it makes miracles.

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Speaker 3: We don't have enough up here at the moment, surprising.

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Speaker 2: That will surprise me. We don't have enough. But how

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Speaker 2: I mean, when there's a problem all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: be something we have to They have to look again

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Speaker 2: the organization. I'm not the expert. I can't call it

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Speaker 2: police commissions to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you don't have control over the police and how

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Speaker 1: they roster things, but you do have some control over

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Speaker 1: whether the security continues or.

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Speaker 2: Not, don't that's actually the government.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was an agreement with the government and.

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Speaker 2: Counts only contribute to that one. Now that will be

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Speaker 2: part of the next year's budget. We haven't, so we're

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Speaker 2: still paying for the patrol. So until the end of Financially, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the patrols are happening, but it has to happen the

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Speaker 2: next financial year. It has to be part of the budget.

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Speaker 2: We're looking carefully.

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Speaker 3: How much does it cost each financial.

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Speaker 2: Year to councrol four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Four hundred thousand dollars, Then how much does the government contribute?

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Speaker 2: I think about a million or a million million.

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Speaker 1: But we sort of at the whim of the government

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Speaker 1: with this as to whether it continues.

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Speaker 2: To sunder the agency, not the council. But again I

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Speaker 2: said to you before, I don't want patrols. I want

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Speaker 3: I get it, Like I totally get that. But for

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Speaker 1: Of you know, for a lot of those retailers, and

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Speaker 1: I know even for me yesterday afternoon I was out

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Speaker 1: doing different things with him. You see the security walking around,

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Speaker 1: and it does give you some comfort that if there

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Speaker 3: That might be able to help you, or that can

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Speaker 2: Look, I get it, but you know what I remember

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Speaker 2: We never had any problems in the moral and the

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Speaker 1: You saw the report obviously from the police that just

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Speaker 1: I'm asking for ken like on her behalf and on

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Speaker 1: to continue until we've got enough police to be able

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Speaker 1: to patrol the straits.

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Speaker 2: Well, the government to decide where they want.

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Speaker 3: To do about but does the council support Well, the.

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Speaker 2: Problem we've got is if I've got security that does

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Speaker 2: nothing like they look good, they walk around and make

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Speaker 2: they're in the mall drinking, which actually is a policious

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Speaker 3: So you don't think they can do anything.

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Speaker 2: You don't think that help you the power to do anything.

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Speaker 3: So do you don't reckon they've helped over the last

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Speaker 2: Look, but in me and you and everywhere out of

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Speaker 2: security patrols. Security patrols are good enough to have your premises,

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Speaker 2: but certainly on the streets should be patrolled by the police.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be pretty controversial what you're saying

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Speaker 1: right now, there's going to be a lot of retailers

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Speaker 1: and a lot of others in the CBD totally disagreeing

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is the government decision taken on

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Speaker 2: the streets of living on the streets. But as do

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Speaker 2: you before, if I was there the tailor, I'll be

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Speaker 3: Look, but look, I know you're something.

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Speaker 1: I know you're something comes down of the government decision,

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll be asking for police, Katie, and I'm very

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Speaker 2: patrols make you feel good, but they don't do anything.

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Speaker 2: The police is do one makes you feel good and

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Speaker 2: they can actually ask people to move. They take alcohol away,

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Speaker 2: poor alcohol away and charge people misbehaved.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the other councilor themen or counselors are

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Speaker 1: going to agree the security.

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Speaker 2: For the council, the thirty councilors there will come down

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Speaker 2: to the democratic decision what are we going to do?

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Speaker 2: But as I do you before, I've been asking for

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had you know, when is that decision

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Speaker 1: made about whether they don't continue.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to be adopted before July. So we've

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Speaker 2: got a few months ago, two months ago. But we've

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Speaker 2: got cars are stolen, we've got crime, we've got the

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Speaker 2: invasion at home. The patrols, private patrols can't do anything

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Speaker 2: about it. It's the police.

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Speaker 1: But when you're talking about those invasions of homes and

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's not in the mall, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about the mall. I mean we're talking

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Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff is happening. I know that

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Speaker 1: those I report on it every single day. But when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about one of them, yeah, well, and this

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Speaker 1: is the thing, when you're talking about that safety for

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Speaker 1: it does I know, it doesn't stop the crime, but

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Speaker 1: it does assist in some ways.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a very good diversion. We don't have police

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Speaker 2: or put the patrol that can't do anything. You see

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Speaker 2: it because they're prominent. But the prop the reality is

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Speaker 2: we're liking police, and that's what Vincequlley said. We need

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Speaker 2: more policemen now, don't We're two hundred below. That can

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Speaker 2: be fixed. Government decision to employ more policemen, the commission

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Speaker 2: to actually change the conditions of employment because unlimited sick

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Speaker 2: lifts seems not to work very well. As a private citizen,

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Speaker 2: I said, it's not the all of the patrol to

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Speaker 1: I'm getting messages from retailers right now saying this is

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Speaker 1: incredibly disappointing to hear from the Lord may Well.

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Speaker 2: If you think that that patrol will help you, good

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Speaker 2: luck to you, because I've seen people doing stubid things

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Speaker 2: in them all. Well, the patrol is there, because the

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Speaker 2: patrol can't do anything. What you be asking? If I

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Speaker 2: was a retailer, I'll be asking the government where is

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think everyone's asking where is the police?

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Speaker 1: But the report But the reports found they were two

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Speaker 1: hundred short, you know, so we were short on police.

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Speaker 2: I can put to I mean, there was an idea

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Speaker 2: about the government to actually authorize the rangers to pour

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Speaker 2: out alcohol to move now. Rangers are not trained to

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Speaker 2: do that one. Rangers are not trained to do actually

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Speaker 2: address at the social behavior the way the police does.

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Speaker 2: And they can put themselves to danger because I have

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Speaker 2: registers threatened with sub weapons those a year before.

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 2: Don't be distracted by something that looks good as for

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Speaker 2: the real thing, I'm asking for the police now. If

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Speaker 1: Colin, before I let you go, somebody else's email through

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Speaker 1: to ask about the toilets at night cliffs.

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Speaker 2: We have some problems with that one. The mechanism, the

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Speaker 2: electronic mechanisms. Because of the environment, they're broken down and

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Speaker 2: we have replacing them regularly, so we're trying to find

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Speaker 2: a different way of doing it. We actually find out

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Speaker 2: to make them manual, and we convert some of them

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Speaker 2: to manual. We keep an eye on it. But please,

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Speaker 2: if you could a problem with toilets or any other

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Speaker 2: issue that the Council comes under control, please click and

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Speaker 2: fix is the application to use. Let us know immediately

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Speaker 2: and we will address it as soon as possible. We're

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Speaker 2: looking for replacing toilets. They're not cheap. The cost about

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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars each because we've got problem with

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Speaker 2: in the progress of renewing the toilets.

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Speaker 1: Our recall last time toilets we built thinking goodness may

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Speaker 1: these is the tis Mahal of toilets. But they're really

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Speaker 1: expensive to get those, to get those automatic ones out.

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Speaker 2: It is because they're self cleaning, so you've got to

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Speaker 2: hear the macage to clean themselves. Again. If they're good,

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Speaker 2: easy to install, easy to clean because we don't have

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Speaker 2: to use cleaners. But again, if you put them somewhere

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Speaker 2: they've got salt air, salt spray, they are going to

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Speaker 1: Contact scarlets, Lord Mayor of Darwin, always good to speak

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time today. Thank you