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Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local

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Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Every one is listening Mix one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 2: Now tell you what. It's hard to know where to go.

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Speaker 1: Following on from the interview with the Health minister, there

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Speaker 1: is a lot that people are concerned about this morning,

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Speaker 1: a lot of messages coming through.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that if a minister's

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Speaker 1: department books an entire hotel that the minister doesn't know why.

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Speaker 1: Pub test, pub test, says Mark in Teewee. Another one, go, Katie.

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Speaker 1: We have asked the hotel operator. No answers from them either.

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Speaker 1: That's obviously come from somebody who's booked a room. Now

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Speaker 1: we've actually had people contacting us who booked those rooms

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Speaker 1: back in February twenty twenty, so we're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: long term bookings.

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Speaker 2: There's another one here. Oh goodness me.

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Speaker 1: It says the minister is dodging questions and she said

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Speaker 1: it's so wrong as a public servant and frustrating to

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Speaker 1: listen to, says Kerry. Look, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: messages flowing through, and we always appreciate your messages coming.

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Speaker 1: Send us a text if you'd like zero four one

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Speaker 1: eight nine five seven three six ' nine.

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Speaker 2: But joining me on the line right.

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Speaker 1: Now is the Shadow Minister for Health and the Member

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Speaker 1: for What Namajira, Bill Yan.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Bill, Good morning Kelly.

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Speaker 2: How are you not too bad? Bill? There's lots to

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Speaker 2: cover off. I might just start firstly with our road borders.

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Speaker 2: We caught up with am sand a little bit earlier

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Speaker 2: this morning. John Patterson joined us on the show.

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Speaker 1: He's concerned about these borders and wants to see well,

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Speaker 1: either the police or health officials on those borders in

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Speaker 1: an effort to make sure that we know exactly who's

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Speaker 1: coming across from the other states. Bill, what do you

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Speaker 1: think needs to happen here?

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Speaker 3: Look, the virus is so insidious, and it's always looking

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Speaker 3: for cracks in the armor, and one of the cracks

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Speaker 3: in the armor could be our borders. When we had

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Speaker 3: our hard lockdown ages ago, we had police on our borders.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing the COVID read throughout Victoria at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It only takes one of those little chinks in the

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Speaker 3: armor for it to get into the territory. Look, I

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Speaker 3: think it's probably critical that we have people on our

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Speaker 3: borders just checking who's coming in. We can rely on technology,

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Speaker 3: but you're also relying on people doing the right thing.

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Speaker 3: And it only takes they said, one oversight somewhere and

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Speaker 3: we could be in a world of hercade.

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Speaker 1: So do you reckon we need police back on the

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Speaker 1: borders bill or do you think that we could have

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Speaker 1: health officials on those borders.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think we could probably have health officials with

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Speaker 3: some support from other areas on our borders. It's just

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Speaker 3: a matter of it's not specifically about policing matter. It's

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Speaker 3: a matter of checking who's coming in, recording who's coming in,

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Speaker 3: where they've been, and maybe pointing them in the right direction,

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Speaker 3: or actually doing some testing on the spot. So it

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Speaker 3: could be a mix. We could use just about anyone

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Speaker 3: as long as they've got enough authority and enough knowledge

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Speaker 1: Now, like you said, it is something that people are

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Speaker 1: obviously concerned with. I know that, particularly the likes of

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Speaker 1: amsand who are representing Aboriginal people in those regional communities.

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Speaker 1: We've got to make sure that we're keeping everybody safe here.

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Speaker 1: But then the flip side of it is when we

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Speaker 1: caught up with the police yesterday. There's not a real

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Speaker 1: be a waste of resources?

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Speaker 3: I think I wouldn't call a waste of resources, Katie.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be people coming across their borders. Who

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Speaker 3: knows how easily this virus may have snuck across from

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Speaker 3: And we're seeing a lot of people and particularly in

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Speaker 3: again in New South Wales, South Australia, Queensland. What happens

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Speaker 3: I suppose due diligence on our mortars is to keep

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Speaker 1: Now, Bill, an issue that we've had raised to this

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Speaker 1: obviously there's quite a few people who had booked accommodation there.

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Speaker 1: They were told that accommodation was canceled. We didn't know

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Speaker 1: that the hotel had actually been booked out by the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Health Department.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that that's appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hear that the Minister's not actually answering questions

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Speaker 3: on I'm saying it's an operational matter that the Minister

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Speaker 3: would have to know what's going on within our own agency,

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Speaker 3: in our own department. Yeah. For the people who've already

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Speaker 3: booked a long time ago to get tossed out is

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Speaker 3: it's tough with them because accommodation's hard to get in

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Speaker 3: Darne with the moment we struggling to get start. So

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Speaker 3: the only thing that comes to my mind is Hell's

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Speaker 3: has booked at the entire motel. I'm only surmising, but

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Speaker 3: I'd see that they're bringing people in from elsewhere to

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Speaker 3: look after Howard Springs facility and that's the accommodation that's

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Speaker 3: get enough people to look after our own health system

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Speaker 1: You reckon that's realistically what could be happening here.

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Speaker 3: I would have a sneaking suspicion if someone's gone to

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Speaker 3: book out an entire motel for a long period, they're

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Speaker 3: obviously expecting lots of people to come in to be

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Speaker 3: That would be absolutely ludicrous. What I would see the

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Speaker 3: staff staying there to be able to manage the Howard

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Speaker 3: Springs facility. I said, I'm surmising, but that would make sense.

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Speaker 3: It would be the obvious thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would highly doubt that that'd be quarantining anybody

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Speaker 1: there when we've got the massive facility obviously out of

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Speaker 1: Howard Springs. But it's an interesting one, Bill, And as

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Speaker 1: I say, it's one that that plenty of listeners have

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Speaker 1: been in contact with us about. So we are still

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Speaker 1: seeking as I understand it, I'll check with my producer

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Speaker 1: Ronnie when we go to break, but we are still

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Speaker 1: seeking comment from the quest at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: Bill. I do want to ask you as well. I

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Speaker 2: know that you're pretty.

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Speaker 1: Concerned at the moment that you think that crucial health

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Speaker 2: Tell us what you think is happening here.

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Speaker 3: Well, So I raised this question quite some time ago

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Speaker 3: We need four hundred plus staff to run that appropriately,

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Speaker 3: to run it safety. So where are those people coming from?

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Speaker 3: And I raise the issue that are we going to

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Speaker 3: to be able to look after how It Springs? And

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden we're seeing remote clinics closing across

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Speaker 3: that we can't get enough people because of COVID. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a yeah, one on one and

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Speaker 3: you get too it seems so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's I have this horrible suspicion that the people out

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Speaker 3: of the Busha are suffering for the fact that we're

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Speaker 3: stripping professionals out to run Howard Springs. But I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that's the case, but we'll be certainly asking

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Speaker 3: some questions in estimates to try and find out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet well, Bill Yam, we are going to

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Speaker 1: have to leave it there. The member for Nema Jira

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Speaker 1: and also the shadow Shadow Health Minister, we appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time today, Thanks so much for chatting with us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie. Thanks hello to Up and Down and have

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Speaker 3: a great day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate,