1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: The man in Canada has has had a bet with 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: a like this is a grown man had a bet 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: with a friend or a colleague. I'm thinking over a 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: game of rock paper scissors. When's the last time you played. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Rock paper scissors? I can't remember. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: They have international championships, I know, and even I look 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: at that and think, grow up. Why don'd you go 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: and play conquers? 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Is it luck or skill with rock hates? 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, this is the point because this guy lost a bet. 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: Do you know how much he had to pay the 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: other guy five hundred and seventeen thousand dollars on rock 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: papers one go? Ah, Well, this is how much he 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: had to pay. He was forced to remortgage his home 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: to meet the costs. 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: What did he went through with them? 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: But well he was going to do it, but went 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: to court and you said, is it skill or is 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: it luck? This is what it came down to, because 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: according to Quebec law, any contract for a bet requires 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: the wage you to be based on an activity requiring 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: skill or bodily exertion on the part of the parties, 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: not simply chance. So the court said, this is really 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: just a game of luck, so therefore the bet doesn't stand. 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: But then they had another court of appeal that said, actually, 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: it is a game of skill because in certain this 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: is a quote in certain circumstances that does call upon 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: the skill of the parties, particularly in the speed of 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: the execution, the sense of observation, or the putting in 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: place a strategic sequence. So he then was going to 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: have to pay up. But then the Chief Justice ruled 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: that the size of the bet was too excessive, finding 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: the contract was invalid. So it sounds like it was 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: one bet five hundred and seventeen thousand dollars on a 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: game of rock paper sis. 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Imagine if we do that right now, five hundred and 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars, right would you do three? 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Like one two three? Go or do you go on 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: the third? 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: If we come and get past this. 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Oh, you've lost your house. 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: What a shame? Okay? One two three goat? 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: See no go one two three goat one two three 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: paper scissors? 46 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Sucker, you own me your house. Damn. 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: I wish i'd thought this through. 48 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Tell Harlee and the kids they better be moving out. 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: There are some people though, and I reckon you'd be 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: like this with your brother or something. Some people who 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: will bet on anything. 52 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've had my four age of betting 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: last week and then I gave up. 54 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Oh what about didn't you have an arm wrestle? 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Was that for money? 57 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: No? That was just for for I don't know, for 58 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: being a young man. 59 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: But did other people bet on it? Yeah? 60 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Well I fancy myself as a bit of an arm wrestler. 61 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: This is you know, probably five motorbike accidents ago. And 62 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I had good risk strength and I used to do 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a bit of weights and I was working in Woollongong 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: and I was you had a few drinks at the 65 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Christmas party. Word got read. I was good at an 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: arm wrestle. So I'm just taking on everything. Wood went round, 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Well when und so, I'm just taking on everything. I'm 68 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: just I'm killing them, bang bang bag. And then Chainsaw 69 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: came over. 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: Is that a person? 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a camera camera guy. And you've met 72 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: Malcolm Chainsaw, massive massive unit. He said, okay, let's see 73 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: how you go sun China. And I gave Chainsaw his arms. 74 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: His wrists were as thick as my legs. That's how 75 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: like giant hamhock wrists and anyone's gathered around and people said, oh, 76 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: you know, I reckon James's going to do this. Jon says, 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: he's great. The word Up until then, I've been beating 78 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: all these whimps in finance, Todd McKenny and Chainsaw gets there. 79 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Bang my arm has literally the tendons just snapped him arm. 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: And I said, okay, well let's see how we go 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: with my left arm, and then bang, I couldn't. I 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: had to walk like c three pm for a month 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: like this. 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I had to go and see the doctor. He said, 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you've done damage to the attendance. What did you do? 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: And I said I might have arm wrestled. 88 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: People will bet on anything. When I say people, I think. 89 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, men do that. Amanda in the Morning one at 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: one point seven value is him