Speaker 1: Oh will you try that on silent Hi, guys, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of Life Unput. I'm Britt
Speaker 1: and I'm Laura, and we are so pumped to be here.
Speaker 1: We have a killer episode for you this week.
Speaker 2: This week we're going to be talking about Only Fans.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have heard of it
Speaker 2: or not. Some of you may have. It's actually not
Speaker 2: that new, but it's very popular now, subscription based website
Speaker 2: that has been getting a lot of conversation in the media,
Speaker 2: so we thought we would touch on this.
Speaker 1: I actually kept calling it fans only, fans for fans only.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. It was great. Britty's really well researched. Oh.
Speaker 1: I googled it to try and get information. I was
Speaker 1: googling fans. I couldn't remember it. I kept going fans only,
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, only fans. But before we get
Speaker 1: into that, let's do the usual roundup. What's been happening?
Speaker 1: Oh God? I think I start mine with oh God?
Speaker 1: Every week, every single week, you do, Oh God, Honestly,
Speaker 1: now you mention it, you really do.
Speaker 2: This week, though, Matt has decided to take it upon
Speaker 2: himself to do a little DIY project. This is the
Speaker 2: project that I have been trying to positively massage into
Speaker 2: him since COVID started, since the whole lockdown started. I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, babe, shame his mustache. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that is set in. That is luscious, thick, and I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going anywhere fast. I was like, can
Speaker 2: you just maybe fix up our outdoor area, Like, let's
Speaker 2: get some pots, let's buy a cute outdoor setting, let's
Speaker 2: make it all delicious, and we can sit out there
Speaker 2: and we can enjoy it. So this week he's decided
Speaker 2: that he's actually.
Speaker 1: Going to do it.
Speaker 2: This week it started to rain. This week, winter set in.
Speaker 2: We don't need an outdoor setting anymore.
Speaker 1: But we're getting one. And then it's curious timing. I
Speaker 1: must admit to go all out on your outdoor area.
Speaker 2: Not only did we not have an outdoor area, it
Speaker 2: was like just you've seen it, brit It was just
Speaker 2: like a total jung dog.
Speaker 1: It was a jungle. I thought you were about to say
Speaker 1: it was a junkyard and I was gonna say, yes,
Speaker 1: yes it was. I was like I had to swing
Speaker 1: through vines to get into the house. It was an obstacle.
Speaker 2: Course anyway, So then Matt decided to take a whipper
Speaker 2: snipper to it yesterday, and now it kind of just
Speaker 2: looks like it's been trodden through by about seventeen cows.
Speaker 2: I must admit, when I came over tonight, I felt
Speaker 2: like it was very naked.
Speaker 1: I think he stripped it back a little bit too far.
Speaker 1: When you've cut the grass down to pure dirt and
Speaker 1: actually ripped it straight out of the ground, I think
Speaker 1: you may have got a little bit o tt but
Speaker 1: you wanted not. My favorite part of the backyard Rhino
Speaker 1: is tell me my favorite part is that it's probably
Speaker 1: been like ten days now since you got your outdoor setting,
Speaker 1: it's still sucking plastic all over it. Like the mom,
Speaker 1: the mom from the Nanny, You know how she has
Speaker 1: that plastic coated lounge so that she has sex on
Speaker 1: it and she just like wipe it off.
Speaker 2: I can guarantee ours has nothing to do with sex
Speaker 2: and has a lot to do with weather protection. You're welcome,
Speaker 2: may show you knock before you come around next week.
Speaker 1: I never knock anyway. No, it looks great.
Speaker 2: Let's let's give him a pad on the back. He
Speaker 2: needs positive reinforcement. I did today say, don't put a
Speaker 2: photo of it up on Instagram yet, because I don't
Speaker 2: actually think it looks any good.
Speaker 1: And he did it anyway, and a whole lot of
Speaker 1: people message to say it looked better before.
Speaker 2: Oh really they didn't. Yeah, I know the ego. He'll
Speaker 2: be okay, he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Well, that's an exciting week. I have done nothing of
Speaker 1: the sort. I came here with a question. All right,
Speaker 1: somebody wrote in, well, not a question. I want to
Speaker 1: propose a small discussion.
Speaker 2: Are you going rogue on this podcast? Are you trying
Speaker 2: to do? Ask guncut right now?
Speaker 1: Look? Okay? Somebody wrote in a question, and it really
Speaker 1: just provoked this train of thought, and I wanted your
Speaker 1: opinion on it because I just didn't really know and
Speaker 1: it's something that has happened to me and it was
Speaker 1: a really funny situation. And I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what the answer is. So I want to ask you
Speaker 1: what is the etiquette for just say you hooked up
Speaker 1: with someone the night before in a one night stand.
Speaker 1: It's early days, It's like within a week, it's very new.
Speaker 1: First second or third time you've seen that person, you've
Speaker 1: hooked up the night before, then you run into them
Speaker 1: on the street by chance. So what is the etiquette
Speaker 1: for You've obviously been with this person very very recently,
Speaker 1: and you've been intimate with them, You've had sex with them,
Speaker 1: you might have just hooked up with them, whatever. What
Speaker 1: you're saying, it's like you've had their dick inside. Do
Speaker 1: you say hello? But not? Okay, let me rephrase. You
Speaker 1: might not have actually had sex with them, but you
Speaker 1: were obviously like whether it was just a date and
Speaker 1: you were making out, whatever the level, Maybe you had sex,
Speaker 1: maybe you got to second base. The fact is you're
Speaker 1: with them physically the night before, the next day you
Speaker 1: run into them in public. What's the etiquette? How do
Speaker 1: you greet each other? How do you speak to each other? How?
Speaker 2: There are so many questions in this How did you
Speaker 2: leave the night before?
Speaker 1: Did you like do a ghost and run? Because if
Speaker 1: you did a ghost and.
Speaker 2: Run, then you just got to put your head down
Speaker 2: and wore real quick out of that situation. But if you, like,
Speaker 2: you know, got up the next morning, had a kiss
Speaker 2: and then kind of went your separate ways and then
Speaker 2: just totally by accident, ran into each other, it's normal.
Speaker 1: You're just like, hey, funny seeing you here. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you don't go and kiss them and make out and stuff. No,
Speaker 1: that's very presumptuous.
Speaker 2: That's very I don't think you can take it from
Speaker 2: a one night stand onto a PDA. Would you kiss
Speaker 2: them on the lips? Absolutely not really No, that's like
Speaker 2: boyfriend level.
Speaker 1: It just got me thinking this actually happened to me
Speaker 1: in BONDI obviously it wasn't recently, guys, but I had
Speaker 1: been seeing this guy for only a week probably, Like
Speaker 1: I think I told you about it, Like I remember.
Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, do you like her? I said,
Speaker 1: I think I told you about it, But I'm like,
Speaker 1: we spoke about it all the time, but I think
Speaker 1: I remember you mentioning this seventeen hundred times. I think
Speaker 1: I remember now. My point is the first time I
Speaker 1: had spent the night there, it was very very early days.
Speaker 1: And then I just ran into him on the street
Speaker 1: the next day and I was like, oh hi, it was.
Speaker 1: I was with my sister. There were packed bond eye
Speaker 1: and I went just to like give him a kiss
Speaker 1: on the cheek and a cuddle because I thought, like,
Speaker 1: I mean like a hug, you know, like hey, like,
Speaker 1: how are you like, obviously I saw you last night
Speaker 1: and he just went straating for the kids on the
Speaker 1: lips in front of my sister, in front of everyone,
Speaker 1: like it was a very public event, and I Sherry
Speaker 1: was like, it's the best thing I've ever seen. You
Speaker 1: were so awkward because I was like whoa, Like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: And then I running to him three times on the promenade.
Speaker 1: He did it every time. It's a very ballsy move
Speaker 1: from a guy. I walked away and I was like,
Speaker 1: do I have an instant boyfriend? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, because I know the ending to this story.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like I can jump in on
Speaker 2: this that I don't have an instant plain you didn't
Speaker 2: have an in and he certainly wasn't a pack and
Speaker 2: Meg's boyfriend, that's for sure. He And the reason why
Speaker 2: I have an issue with this is because for him
Speaker 2: to kiss you publicly really sets like a very I
Speaker 2: think it makes a real statement. It's like I want
Speaker 2: to date you, I want to be your boyfriend. I
Speaker 2: think it's like a very public display of ownership of
Speaker 2: that really relationship.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that just a couple of days
Speaker 1: later he was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, actually I'm not really into this, Like don't kiss
Speaker 2: me in public. Then if you're not into it, just
Speaker 2: say hi and go on with your day.
Speaker 1: Be normal. You don't have to publicly claim me in
Speaker 1: front of my friends. Yeah, which I felt that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was, and so I thought I was interesting.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this a normal thing? Because I've
Speaker 1: never run into somebody. I had never had that situation.
Speaker 1: But guys, for the people that rode in, for the
Speaker 1: girl that wrote in, I don't think that it's normal.
Speaker 1: And for the people wondering what the etiquette is for
Speaker 1: that next day, I reckon you're better off to high
Speaker 1: five of them than to go in and like make
Speaker 1: out with them on the stream in front of everyone.
Speaker 1: Like your farm. Found that to be an interesting question
Speaker 1: that I wasn't the only one that was perplexed by this.
Speaker 1: Other people, other listeners have been in this situation. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I was thinking?
Speaker 2: This is totally off topic, but this is just like
Speaker 2: kind of wear my head's out of the moment, which
Speaker 2: is scatty constantly. So I know that we've been talking
Speaker 2: so much about like being in isolation and how much
Speaker 2: we kind of want things to go back to normal
Speaker 2: and so that we can have stuff to do and
Speaker 2: actually have more stimulation and you know what, guys will
Speaker 2: be bringing you some really wild content when we can
Speaker 2: leave the house. But now that it's coming closer to
Speaker 2: that really being a possibility, and the fact that like
Speaker 2: this weekend, everyone was out, everyone was doing stuff and
Speaker 2: like you could go to restaurants and there's it's lifted,
Speaker 2: like we're out of it now, there's a little part
Speaker 2: of me that's like, oh, I'm not ready yet.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: don't want it to ever end. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to go to work and not be able to
Speaker 1: just fart whenever I want to, Like I'm not ready.
Speaker 1: I love that that is what you're basing your whole
Speaker 1: isolation experience on.
Speaker 2: Well, I went to work today and I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to be really conscious of my bodily functions.
Speaker 1: I've not had to do that in a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm just not ready for ISO to finish, just because
Speaker 1: I know how crazy my life will be. I know
Speaker 1: it's going to go back to what it was tenfold,
Speaker 1: and that was with me hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 1: But I am excited for people to go back to normal.
Speaker 1: In terms of businesses, I've seen some businesses around Bondi
Speaker 1: Clothes and it's really really sad. So I do hope
Speaker 1: the economy can start to get back on track and
Speaker 1: a lot of the small businesses that everybody knows someone
Speaker 1: in small business, so I'm really really hoping that they
Speaker 1: can be on the ment. But don't you think that
Speaker 1: there's also been some businesses that have completely and I
Speaker 1: know this is such a buzzword at the moment, but
Speaker 1: they've completely pivoted and they have reinvented themselves and reinvented
Speaker 1: their offering. And I think that with in.
Speaker 2: Times of crisis, it really sometimes highlights true entrepreneurship and
Speaker 2: really highlights people who have tenacity and business savviness also not.
Speaker 1: A word, but I'm going to go with it.
Speaker 2: I think it is, well, there you go business savviness
Speaker 2: and are able to be like adaptable and kind of
Speaker 2: reinvent themselves and become chameleons in crisis. I think it's
Speaker 2: been a really interesting time to watch what some businesses
Speaker 2: have done. I mean going back to like, you know,
Speaker 2: this feeling of like not wanting this whole isolation to
Speaker 2: be over yet, Like I know that it's a really
Speaker 2: unfair thing to say, and of course they do want
Speaker 2: the world to go back to normal as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: But I just remember having this anxiety when it all
Speaker 2: started and being like, oh, I don't know how we're
Speaker 2: going to adapt to staying at home all the time.
Speaker 2: And now that it's lifting, I'm like, it's like a
Speaker 2: reverse anxiety. Yeah, I feel the anxiety that like I
Speaker 2: don't want things to go back to normal yet, Like
Speaker 2: I'm just not ready for this shift.
Speaker 1: Because we as humans, we adapt to our situation, and
Speaker 1: I think people don't realize how quickly you get comfortable
Speaker 1: with the situation and something becomes your new normal. I
Speaker 1: guess it's like becoming a mum. The first little while,
Speaker 1: I was like this is crazy, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you don't remember what you
Speaker 1: did before that, and you're still like, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing constantly, And I woke
Speaker 2: up this morning and I was like, I am never
Speaker 2: not going to be tired again.
Speaker 1: That's what beer Farm is.
Speaker 2: No Ever, I'm going to be tired for the rest
Speaker 2: of from the day Molly was born and to the
Speaker 2: day I.
Speaker 1: Die, this is my life. Now. Did you just only
Speaker 1: realize that now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I woke up with a sore back and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm never going to wake up from asleep and feel
Speaker 2: refreshed ever again.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy that we have become accustomed to this
Speaker 1: new way of life. And I hope if there's one
Speaker 1: thing we all take for this, it's to start washing
Speaker 1: your hands more and just be I think I can't
Speaker 1: believe how many people is so unhygienic. So hopefully this
Speaker 1: is like a learned trait now and subconsciously people are
Speaker 1: thinking about their hygiene words. I don't think it crossed
Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds before.
Speaker 2: I am only laughing because from all the deep things
Speaker 2: that you could possibly say, I just didn't think it
Speaker 2: was going to be like and wash your hands.
Speaker 1: It's true. Do you know that I've read?
Speaker 2: I can't remember where, so I'm just gonna throw some
Speaker 2: starts at totally unsubstantiated. But men are far more inclined
Speaker 2: to not wash their hands than women because they go
Speaker 2: to the toilet hold their penis. Do we bust on
Speaker 2: out of there? Do you know the dirtiest part of
Speaker 2: a bathroom is a man's penis.
Speaker 1: Is the man's genital No, the dirty is part of
Speaker 1: a bathroom is actually the door handle. Yeah, that's gross,
Speaker 1: isn't it. People like touch toilet see. I mean obviously
Speaker 1: it's all gross, but the door handle. Because everyone's touched
Speaker 1: everything in white butt, I don't think about it, but
Speaker 1: then they put their hand on the door.
Speaker 2: So when I was doing some research for today's episode,
Speaker 2: I came across a quote that was on Twitter. Also
Speaker 2: can't substantiate where this quote came from because I put
Speaker 2: it in my notes because I was like, Dan, that
Speaker 2: is good, but also didn't write down who I got
Speaker 2: it from. So I'm just gonna plagiarize someone right now.
Speaker 2: Know that this came from Twitter, It's not from me.
Speaker 2: But this is a quote has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: today's episode, but I was like, I love this, and
Speaker 2: in one you're reliving your breakup days all over again.
Speaker 1: In like three.
Speaker 2: Sentences, this person has just totally summarized everything that I
Speaker 2: think we try and communicate on this podcast, and that
Speaker 2: is if you constantly have problems with your boyfriend or
Speaker 2: your girlfriend. I hope you know that that shit is
Speaker 2: not normal. I feel like people always try to romanticize
Speaker 2: toxicity and can confuse it for passion. It's not and
Speaker 2: that's a miserable way for someone to love you.
Speaker 1: Wow, mic Drop.
Speaker 2: That just resonated with every single bone in my body,
Speaker 2: and I was like, if you are in a toxic relationship,
Speaker 2: or you're in a relationship where you're constantly doing the
Speaker 2: up down, up down, updown dance and not the sexy
Speaker 2: updown dance, just the miser.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people confuse when you and
Speaker 1: I often say on this podcast that relationships shouldn't be
Speaker 1: hard and you shouldn't have to work that hard for them,
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be that toxic. Don't get us wrong.
Speaker 1: Relationships can be hard work, and you do have to
Speaker 1: fight for them, and you do have to reassess them
Speaker 1: every few years. We're not saying that it should be
Speaker 1: walking the park for the rest of your life. What
Speaker 1: we're saying is at a grander level, it's saying that
Speaker 1: if you every single day, every second day, are in
Speaker 1: tears and crying and you're anxious and there's abuse, and
Speaker 1: whether that's emotional, mentally, physically, that's when we're saying it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that hard, not that you need to sit
Speaker 1: down and have a chat three times a year and
Speaker 1: really fight for your relationship. We're not saying that because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are confusing what we
Speaker 1: mean when we say you have to work for it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean every relationship has their ups and downs,
Speaker 2: but you shouldn't have to get up every single day
Speaker 2: of that relationship and feel like it's hard work. That's
Speaker 2: not a joy, That's not what relationships are about. And
Speaker 2: so from the beginning, yeah, fuck no. And so when
Speaker 2: I read this, I was like, this just so perfectly
Speaker 2: encapsulates a couple of the episodes that we've talked about
Speaker 2: where we've talked about toxic relationships, and I just really
Speaker 2: really loved it. So I wanted to put it here
Speaker 2: into this episode. I'm going to put it on the Instagram,
Speaker 2: so you guys on your instagrams. I'm going to post
Speaker 2: it on the Instagram. So if you ever at a
Speaker 2: point in your life where you're like, you know, this
Speaker 2: guy makes me cry all the time, read this and
Speaker 2: know that this is not what you should be putting
Speaker 2: up with, and you are worth so much more than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot thanks for bringing that. You're still Kim,
Speaker 1: You're welcome. All right, Power to the people, all right,
Speaker 1: Celesti Barber her actually updown on Celes Barber. That case
Speaker 1: will be decided this week on where her money is
Speaker 1: finally going to go. The fifty one million is in
Speaker 1: court and it will be decided over the next few days.
Speaker 2: That is actually a little bit miserable that it's taken
Speaker 2: so long. Disgraceful that much money that was meant to
Speaker 2: be a relief in the bushfires has been tied up
Speaker 2: for so long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes me angry. It makes me angry that
Speaker 1: they're literally saying things like we're just like, this is
Speaker 1: what it is. We're just trying to decide whether one
Speaker 1: little newstalth Wales company can get all the money or
Speaker 1: whether we could possibly find a way to give it
Speaker 1: to families of our heroes that lost their lives fighting
Speaker 1: animal shelters, that are trying to rehabilitate our wildlife workers,
Speaker 1: people that have sacrificed everything, people that need help rehabilitating
Speaker 1: their homes, their lands, their cattle, things like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't even talk about it. My infuriates.
Speaker 2: I understand that there are policies and legislations on go
Speaker 2: fundme pages that you know, keep people responsible and accountable
Speaker 2: for where and how they spend the money that we're
Speaker 2: donating to. So that is really important. But I think
Speaker 2: the part of this that's quite worrisome is that Celeste
Speaker 2: Barber was so vocal on social media the whole time
Speaker 2: that don't worry, keep donating, I'm going to make sure
Speaker 2: this money goes to these different charities, and ursions were
Speaker 2: always there. Yeah, her intentions were so good, but she
Speaker 2: was encouraging people to continue to donate. Had people known
Speaker 2: that that money was only going to then be disseminated
Speaker 2: to one charity, people would have stopped donating. So absolutely,
Speaker 2: so I think that, well, legislation can be broken. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that even though the legislation is there, the
Speaker 2: fact that she used her social media very publicly to
Speaker 2: x amount of million followers that she has and verbalize
Speaker 2: that that legislation would be broken. I think that then
Speaker 2: that outweighs in this. In this case. Absolutely, I think
Speaker 2: would be insane for them to give that money to
Speaker 2: one charity.
Speaker 1: It will be complete uproar if the judge comes back
Speaker 1: and says no, that it can't be dispersed. We'll we'll
Speaker 1: update next week on that once we have the result.
Speaker 1: So yt you go newsweek with Brutal Guys. It is
Speaker 1: time for my personal favorite segment, and that is accidentally unfiltered.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is everyone's favorite segment surely, just
Speaker 1: your most embarrassing stories you write in those moments where
Speaker 1: you want to bury yourself, and we read them out
Speaker 1: and we laugh at you and with you, but mostly
Speaker 1: at you, with you, with with you, at you, and
Speaker 1: with everybody else who's listening to this. Okay, I actually
Speaker 1: love this one because I work in operating theater and
Speaker 1: I know exactly how this would have gone down, and
Speaker 1: I can picture the whole thing. Back before the Iota's,
Speaker 1: I went out with some friends to a few bars
Speaker 1: and we partied into the night. I met a boy
Speaker 1: and we had a really fun one night stand. I
Speaker 1: thought things were great, he got my number, but in
Speaker 1: the sober light of day, I knew that I absolutely
Speaker 1: never wanted to see this guy again, and well I
Speaker 1: just go st nim. Sorry. I was uneducated at the time. Ladies,
Speaker 1: thank you, yes learned your lessons from this podcast. So
Speaker 1: fast forward a few weeks later and I was at
Speaker 1: work as an endoscopy nurse. Now we joke that we
Speaker 1: are the butthole inspectors, which they literally are. They're the
Speaker 1: people that put the scope up your butt as we
Speaker 1: were doing As we were doing the list in theater,
Speaker 1: the next patient was wheeled into the room, and as
Speaker 1: I finished setting up the scope, I turn around to
Speaker 1: see it was the boy on the bed about to
Speaker 1: be scoped and have this thing put up his butt.
Speaker 1: He turns around, makes eye come back in front of
Speaker 1: all the doctor's, nurses and wardsmen and says, well, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing your buttole, you may as well see mine, and
Speaker 1: then he promptly rolls over and puts his bite in
Speaker 1: my face. To everyone's credit, they just let go of it.
Speaker 1: No one said anything then when as soon as the
Speaker 1: patient was sedated, questions were flying, Oh my god you
Speaker 1: I got a few high fives for getting some What
Speaker 1: a real stab to the guy's masculinity. He got ghosted
Speaker 1: and then she has to do something in his buttle
Speaker 1: in front of a room and full of people. I
Speaker 1: actually really sorry for this guy. Good on him for
Speaker 1: making a joke about it, like he got a good
Speaker 1: jab in there. I would have pretended like I didn't
Speaker 1: know the person. I love that he just dropped it,
Speaker 1: said it, rolled over and stuck his bite in the face,
Speaker 1: like I don't know who was better off in this situation.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I think I need a little bit
Speaker 2: more drugs please to deal with this.
Speaker 1: It would be absolutely the worst. But and then imagine
Speaker 1: being that girl. So when you're in a theater like this,
Speaker 1: the room's full, you have literally have so many doctors.
Speaker 1: Every everyone now has just heard him say that throw
Speaker 1: it to her and she has to go and answer
Speaker 1: to that. And also they've all seen him naked, but
Speaker 1: also totally out of context too. I've seen your butthole.
Speaker 1: Now you have to see him Wait what, I don't
Speaker 1: know who give me the green dream and put me
Speaker 1: to sleep? Anyway, I absolutely love that. So if you
Speaker 1: guys have any more stories like that, keep them coming.
Speaker 1: Shall we jump into the topic.
Speaker 2: Yes we shall, so, guys, for this episode, we wanted
Speaker 2: to do something a little bit different and we're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about only fans, which if you haven't heard
Speaker 2: of it, it is this platform that has been gaining
Speaker 2: loads of media attention recently and it has really come
Speaker 2: into the spotlight. I think since the coronavirus pandemic has
Speaker 2: hit and since we've all been in isolation, and there's
Speaker 2: a whole lot more horny people online needing to get
Speaker 2: some content. So Only Fans started in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 2: it's not an app that you can download on your phone.
Speaker 2: What it is is a subscription based website where anyone
Speaker 2: can create an account. But it does seem to be
Speaker 2: a lot of influencers who are getting on there and
Speaker 2: they're curating specific type of content that they don't put
Speaker 2: on their Instagram for people who want to pay a price.
Speaker 2: That subscription fee is a monthly fee, so it can
Speaker 2: start anywhere from six dollars and it's unlimited, so the
Speaker 2: content creator is the one who puts the cap on
Speaker 2: the fee, and then once you subscribe to someone's feed,
Speaker 2: you can also then tip them for more explicit or
Speaker 2: more personalized content. Predominantly the subscribers who are using Only
Speaker 2: Fans and men. It's got a really strong male slant
Speaker 2: in the way of subscribers. And basically what Only Fans
Speaker 2: is is a supportal that offers greater access to an
Speaker 2: influencer or to somebody who you may admires. Life now
Speaker 2: Only Fans has become pretty controversial recently, and that is
Speaker 2: because the type of content that people are posting on
Speaker 2: there is predominantly sexually explicit content, and it is allowing
Speaker 2: people to make money of selling their nudes.
Speaker 1: I personally didn't know much about OnlyFans before you actually
Speaker 1: it up you're like, hey, let's talk about this. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of the news lately. I had seen
Speaker 1: it going around, I'd seen it on Instagram, seen it
Speaker 1: on the news, a few daily mail articles, but I
Speaker 1: didn't really know what it was. And I have thoroughly
Speaker 1: enjoyed doing the research on this because it has been
Speaker 1: really eye opening. And whether it's going to be a
Speaker 1: way of the future, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about it, but that's why I think
Speaker 1: it's so great to break it down. So, like Laura said,
Speaker 1: you can subscribe to this site as a viewer, or
Speaker 1: you can be a content creator and you can put
Speaker 1: anything on there. You can put what you'd put on Instagram,
Speaker 1: a cooking video, a workout video, any single creation you want.
Speaker 1: The next step up, which might be some more provocative photos, bikinis,
Speaker 1: sexy photos, you can go all their shat well, there's
Speaker 1: a quote that they say tips for titties, So yeah,
Speaker 1: for titties, titty shots. But it goes, it literally goes
Speaker 1: all the way up to soft porn to hard porn,
Speaker 1: complete sex, sexual activities, sexual activities. I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: diplomatic sometimes I put photos of my sexual activities on there.
Speaker 1: You can tell how diplomatic I'm trying to me. You
Speaker 1: can see how uncomfortable Brittany is by pawn. No, it's
Speaker 1: not porn, it's I'm trying not to be crude. Yeah sure, Okay,
Speaker 1: well that'll be new for those podcasts.
Speaker 2: But also, like Labridge just said it, there is such
Speaker 2: a weird and varied spectrum of content that is on
Speaker 2: only fans. And for example, okay, we've talked about wiki
Speaker 2: feet before on this podcast plenty of times.
Speaker 1: It's this, it's a west stroudest moment. It's not, it's
Speaker 1: not my proudest moment.
Speaker 2: But it is a website where somebody has aggregated photos
Speaker 2: of different Dalist celebrities feet and somehow my feet have
Speaker 2: ended up on this website called wiki feet. So there
Speaker 2: is content out there of my feet that some guy
Speaker 2: is jacking off over. Like what other reason is that
Speaker 2: they're on the Internet. So the idea of only Fans
Speaker 2: is that, you know what, I could create a profile
Speaker 2: of photos of just my feet if I want to,
Speaker 2: and I could actually get paid for that content because
Speaker 2: it's out there on the Internet anyway. Somebody is having
Speaker 2: a great old time for it. So why shouldn't the
Speaker 2: women who are the creators of this content or the men,
Speaker 2: sorry I shouldn't just say women, but why shouldn't they
Speaker 2: create the creators of this content get paid for that content?
Speaker 2: And that's the sentiment behind only Fans. It does have
Speaker 2: its positives, which we're going to discuss. But then I
Speaker 2: also do want to touch on the fact that this
Speaker 2: is a bit of a cautionary tale as well, because
Speaker 2: something that seems too good to be true, which to
Speaker 2: be honest, OnlyFans. Does you keep on hearing about all
Speaker 2: of these women and men who have made so much
Speaker 2: money so quickly, like fifty thousand dollars a month, twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month, millions of dollars on this platform.
Speaker 2: The dollars are actually ludicrous, like we're high numbers, it's insane.
Speaker 2: But I think that there's a very small portion of
Speaker 2: people who are making this amount of money, and it
Speaker 2: becomes very, very appealing, and so I do want to
Speaker 2: touch on the negative side of what Only Fans could
Speaker 2: be as well.
Speaker 1: One girl in particular that I'm going to talk about.
Speaker 1: Her name is Jim Wolfe, and she's actually from Australia.
Speaker 1: She's from Western Australia. She's twenty, and she has made
Speaker 1: millions of dollars on OnlyFans. She is actually the number
Speaker 1: one content creator and the highest paid person in the
Speaker 1: world on OnlyFans, and she has actually not even posted
Speaker 1: one nude photo. Now, the reason I find her so
Speaker 1: fascinating is because she was an athlete. She used to
Speaker 1: play professional basketball, and she just had an Instagram following
Speaker 1: that built quite rapidly from fitness photos and she was
Speaker 1: a chef, so she'd put her food photos up. She
Speaker 1: had developed two point seven million Instagram followers just following
Speaker 1: her content that was a bit sexy. She's got big boobs,
Speaker 1: she's curvy, she's beautiful. But she got to the point
Speaker 1: where she's like, Okay, I have two point five million
Speaker 1: followers on my Instagram that I'm putting this content out
Speaker 1: for free. Why don't I capitalize on it. So she
Speaker 1: started an only Fans account and became the number one
Speaker 1: highest paid person. What I think we really need to
Speaker 1: be careful of with this is young young women and
Speaker 1: men seeing this saying, Okay, I want to go and
Speaker 1: become the highest paid person. But what they don't realize
Speaker 1: is is that you don't just go on too only fans,
Speaker 1: post some nude photos and get that money and get
Speaker 1: that popularity. She transferred two point five million Instagram followers
Speaker 1: to OnlyFans, so she started with a platform. And I
Speaker 1: think it's a really slippery slope for young women to
Speaker 1: see women making fifty thousand dollars a month, sometimes a day,
Speaker 1: some depending on the photo she's putting out and saying
Speaker 1: I can do that. I'm going to go and start
Speaker 1: putting nudehotos on. It just actually doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: Their Instagram followers, their Twitter followers, it all correlates and
Speaker 1: transfers over to OnlyFans. So I want to talk about
Speaker 1: that more too.
Speaker 2: So the thing with only Fans is that anybody can
Speaker 2: make an account very similar to Instagram. I guess the
Speaker 2: difference from Instagram is that Instagram has such strict nudity
Speaker 2: and pornography guidelines and there are huge restrictions on what
Speaker 2: you can and can't post on Instagram. Also, the thing
Speaker 2: with Instagram is that content is free, and the currency
Speaker 2: that people deal with on Instagram is likes or comments.
Speaker 2: The difference with Only Fans is that there is no
Speaker 2: restrictions on the type of content that people post, which
Speaker 2: is why people tend to post more sexually explicit content,
Speaker 2: and the currency that people deal with on Only Fans
Speaker 2: is money. Now a lot of reality TV stars have
Speaker 2: actually adopted the platform, some who you guys would know
Speaker 2: of like Vanessa Sierra, who was from Love Island. She
Speaker 2: and her boyfriend have an account together. Her boyfriend's name
Speaker 2: is Luke Irwin, and they post quite sexually explicit photos
Speaker 2: of the two of them together doing a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of different stuff. Some of it ranges from pretty mile
Speaker 2: like bikini photos that you'd probably already see on Instagram
Speaker 2: all the way up to things that make the subscription
Speaker 2: worthwhile for people who want to have a more sexual
Speaker 2: insight into their lives. One of the things they think
Speaker 2: that is really appealing about OnlyFans and what has kind
Speaker 2: of changed from the normal porn industry where you'd tap
Speaker 2: in and watch porn and then bat off and go
Speaker 2: to bed. Is that being a part of Only Fans
Speaker 2: gives you this real insight to someone's life. It gives
Speaker 2: you this connection, and it gives you this companionship that
Speaker 2: I don't think Paun gives to someone. So I think
Speaker 2: that that's why there's been this push towards Only Fans
Speaker 2: and Wyatt's had such a huge uptake because you almost
Speaker 2: get like this boyfriend or girlfriend experience from it, so
Speaker 2: you really have access to these people who you feel
Speaker 2: like you already know.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest creators from Only Fans in Sweden,
Speaker 1: she's actually married, but she I found her really fascinating.
Speaker 1: I looked at her a lot today and I read
Speaker 1: a lot of her articles, and she first and foremost said,
Speaker 1: whoever things you can go on to only Fans and
Speaker 1: be successful by posting a nude photo here and there
Speaker 1: is kidding themselves. She said. For her, it's a seven
Speaker 1: day a week, full time job, because the whole idea
Speaker 1: behind it is people wanting to connect, like you just said,
Speaker 1: so she goes to the effort of knowing everything about
Speaker 1: her fans. She has this relationship with him, she knows
Speaker 1: their dogs' names, she knows their jobs, she knows their
Speaker 1: stress levels, she knows when they're having an operation, so
Speaker 1: she can contact them and say how are you going,
Speaker 1: follows up on them. So she creates a level of
Speaker 1: intimacy with these people where they feel like they actually
Speaker 1: have someone and they almost feel like they're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: which I think is beneficial for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that are lonely out
Speaker 1: there that want that connection. But there's a fine line too.
Speaker 1: I think we need to be aware that there are
Speaker 1: also a lot of people on there that I don't
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to say it. There are creeps
Speaker 1: on there, there are predators. Essentially, it is a porn
Speaker 1: site as well. So I just want a lot of
Speaker 1: young women to keep that in mind. Also, so she
Speaker 1: will do things anywhere from waking up in the morning
Speaker 1: and posting a photo in lingerie the same morning. Guys,
Speaker 1: she'll do something like that which she would have done anyway,
Speaker 1: and she was doing anyway on Instagram. So she was
Speaker 1: doing that for free, and like everyone does that now,
Speaker 1: it's not you see something you don't even batch an
Speaker 1: eyelid when you see a bikini photo or a lingerie
Speaker 1: photo on Instagram anymore, not at all.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, posting a photo in a bra or
Speaker 2: posting a photo on a bikini like that is so
Speaker 2: commonplace on Instagram and people are doing that for free
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 1: So she started to do that, And I guess the
Speaker 1: interesting thing about her is she has her husband take
Speaker 1: a lot of the photos, and her husband takes a
Speaker 1: lot of the content and the videos, and he's there
Speaker 1: and he's very supportive of it. He's very supportive of
Speaker 1: it because he almost feels a sense of pride, like
Speaker 1: everyone sees what I've got. Everyone, you know, everyone wants her,
Speaker 1: but I have her. And they have an open relationship.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of trust. They have access to each
Speaker 1: other's computers. He can see every conversation that she's writing.
Speaker 1: So there's this, I guess, a positive aspect for them
Speaker 1: in a relationship because she is in control of who
Speaker 1: she speaks to, She's in control of what she puts out,
Speaker 1: she's in control of how much she charges for that.
Speaker 1: Everything that she wants to do she is in control of.
Speaker 1: And I think that is that is revolutionizing the sex industry.
Speaker 2: What I find really interesting is how polarizing OnlyFans is,
Speaker 2: and there are two arguments, two different camps at the moment.
Speaker 2: One camp is that it is very empowering for women
Speaker 2: and that it allows content creators to take full control
Speaker 2: over their bodies, over the way that they portray themselves,
Speaker 2: over their revenue stream, over their boundaries, and over the
Speaker 2: type of sex work that they do and their ability
Speaker 2: to make money off their bodies. But there's also been
Speaker 2: a lot of backlash to only Fans and that is
Speaker 2: people who have an issue with monetizing nudes. Basically, you know,
Speaker 2: people are saying that it's making sex work more accessible,
Speaker 2: that it is romanticizing pornography, and that it is desensitizing young,
Speaker 2: younger generations to this sort of industry, which I mean, realistically,
Speaker 2: should we have an issue with people using their bodies
Speaker 2: to make money.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the oldest occupation in the world.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we do live in a world where people are
Speaker 2: still stigmatized by it. But I think that that stigma
Speaker 2: partly comes from misogyny, but it also comes from this
Speaker 2: fear that people are doing something against their will because
Speaker 2: it doesn't align with somebody else's moral boundaries. But like
Speaker 2: you've just said about this other woman who's you know,
Speaker 2: doing it in relation with her partner and they have
Speaker 2: a really open relationship. It's different strokes with different folks.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I think people have such
Speaker 2: an issue with with only fans is the fact that
Speaker 2: because you can't see the content that's being posted until
Speaker 2: you subscribe to someone's channel, people assume that it's worst
Speaker 2: case scenario. The content creator has put a price point
Speaker 2: on that content. If they were to post that content
Speaker 2: on Instagram, no one would bat an eyelid because it's free.
Speaker 2: The moment that that content creator is saying no, this
Speaker 2: is a value and you have to pay for it,
Speaker 2: that's when everyone seems to have an issue with it.
Speaker 2: I find it interesting because I can see the positives
Speaker 2: and negatives in it. I think, like you just said,
Speaker 2: for sex workers, now, it's making a safer environment. It's
Speaker 2: going to allow a lot of sex workers to not
Speaker 2: actually have to go and have sex. They don't have
Speaker 2: to physically go and sell their body and put themselves
Speaker 2: in compromising situations anymore, because they can do it from
Speaker 2: the safety of their own home, with whom they choose
Speaker 2: when they choose to, and they'll probably be making a
Speaker 2: lot more money this way than they were, So I
Speaker 2: think that's a really great thing to put some women
Speaker 2: that maybe are in this industry, not even by choice.
Speaker 1: Some people. I think a lot of people probably getting
Speaker 1: too the sex industry because they have to. They might
Speaker 1: have a family or children or for whatever reason. There's
Speaker 1: also a lot of people that choose to because it's
Speaker 1: liberating and it's their body, and they choose to, but
Speaker 1: it's giving them a safer space for sure, and I
Speaker 1: think that's amazing. But then on the other hand, there
Speaker 1: is this aspect where maybe a lot of younger people,
Speaker 1: a lot of women would put themselves into positions that
Speaker 1: they probably never would have if the site wasn't available.
Speaker 1: So there'll be people that never would have crossed their
Speaker 1: minds to sell nudes, but now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it's in their face, people are earning money. They're like,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just do it. Maybe I'll do it for
Speaker 1: a month, maybe I'll do it for six months. And
Speaker 1: then I think that can become a slippery slope. Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: And I think that the reason why people have such
Speaker 2: an issue with only fans is because of the scope
Speaker 2: and the variety of content that's on there. There are
Speaker 2: people who are doing hardcore porn, and then there are
Speaker 2: people who are posting like private exercise videos. It's such
Speaker 2: a crazy spectrum of content. It's just lent itself more
Speaker 2: to the posting of news. That's kind of what it's
Speaker 2: become known for, and so obviously that's what we're diving
Speaker 2: into because that is what everyone has such an issue,
Speaker 2: or that's what's causing so much controversy. I think the
Speaker 2: platform can be really empowering for grown women who have
Speaker 2: agency and who have choice, and who understand the decisions
Speaker 2: that they're making in their life because they have a
Speaker 2: bit of age behind them and experience behind them. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: it is empowering, it is liberating, and it allows the
Speaker 2: content creator to completely dictate their own boundaries. The one
Speaker 2: issue I have with it is that maybe it does
Speaker 2: slightly romanticize this quick and easy way of making money
Speaker 2: for young people. And like, when you're eighteen nineteen and
Speaker 2: I know that there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 2: young girls who listen to this podcast, But I remember
Speaker 2: back when I was eighteen nineteen, and I did things
Speaker 2: then that I look back on now and I go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I wish I never did that. The
Speaker 2: good thing about the mistakes I made is that I
Speaker 2: didn't make them on the Internet. I didn't make them
Speaker 2: in a platform that's going to follow me around. No
Speaker 2: one has to ever know about them. If you are
Speaker 2: thinking about starting an OnlyFans account, if you're thinking about
Speaker 2: making money from selling nudes, because it does seem like
Speaker 2: a quick and easy way of making money, I think
Speaker 2: you just really need to be conscious about what you're
Speaker 2: putting on the Internet and how it may affect you
Speaker 2: later on in life. And as much as Only Fans
Speaker 2: as a site says that it's got all the security
Speaker 2: measures in place and that you are protected, when you
Speaker 2: put anything out there on the Internet, you are very
Speaker 2: much relying on the other people who are subscribing to
Speaker 2: that platform to play by the rules, and there are
Speaker 2: predators out there. There are people who do not play by
Speaker 2: the rules, So be very mindful of what you're sharing
Speaker 2: of yourself from a safety and security perspective, Because there
Speaker 2: have been loads of cases of women who have been
Speaker 2: stalked off the back of their Only Fans accounts, women
Speaker 2: who have being trolled online, women who have had their
Speaker 2: photos uploaded to prostitution websites, you really need to be
Speaker 2: mindful of that side of the argument as well. For
Speaker 2: young people, you need to be very very conscious of
Speaker 2: the digital footprint that you're putting out into the world.
Speaker 2: And it's one thing for us to sit here and
Speaker 2: say only fans is really liberating. It allows you to
Speaker 2: take control of your body. It takes allows you to
Speaker 2: take control of your content. It would be irresponsible for
Speaker 2: us to only say that side of the narrative and
Speaker 2: not say that, actually, you really need to take responsibility
Speaker 2: for the content you put on the Internet, because that
Speaker 2: is going to be there when you're thirty five, when
Speaker 2: you're forty. You don't know how that's going to impact
Speaker 2: you further on in life. And as much as I
Speaker 2: think like we should live in a society where you're
Speaker 2: not defined by the work that you do and you're
Speaker 2: not defined by the nudes that you've put out into
Speaker 2: the world, we're not there yet. And so you don't
Speaker 2: want to be a martyr for the cause.
Speaker 1: Interesting that you say that, because there are people like
Speaker 1: Reese Powers, so you know, just Powers from Marriat first sight,
Speaker 1: I'm sexy brother. Greece is the sexy brother. He actually
Speaker 1: became probably more famous than her, which is funny. He's
Speaker 1: making fifty thousand dollars a month. Yes, And this is
Speaker 1: the thing. Not only is he making fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a month, so he is one of the top, he's
Speaker 1: in the top content creators in the world as well.
Speaker 1: Apparently this is what the websites are saying, is what
Speaker 1: he's saying. I mean I would subscribe to him, would you?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can have him. I'll take him.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, he's so cheap thrills or not so cheap.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much he is to subscribe to.
Speaker 2: Let's find that out.
Speaker 1: He's not cheap because he's making fifty thousand dollars a mom.
Speaker 1: I actually really gob smacked that you are into him.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't like the version of his personality that's
Speaker 2: been put out there in the world. I don't know
Speaker 2: who he is as a person, but I've read some
Speaker 2: pretty negative things and obviously.
Speaker 1: He's not my type of guy.
Speaker 2: So you know, but if you were just to like
Speaker 2: snapshot the way he looks, I think he looks attractive.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think he's nasty. But that's going to
Speaker 1: smack me for this. Interestingly, his ex is Vanessa Sierra,
Speaker 1: the other girl that we just said is on is
Speaker 1: the content creator with her boyfriend making they're both on there.
Speaker 1: They dated, That's how they got on there. That's that's
Speaker 1: the link. They used to date each other, then they
Speaker 1: split up, and then they both went and made bank.
Speaker 2: Why is it that all the influencers all know each other, Like,
Speaker 2: how is it that they all kind of cross pollinate
Speaker 2: at different points in the world.
Speaker 1: What I don't know if I'm on board with is
Speaker 1: is one thing for him to put it on his
Speaker 1: stories saying I'm in the top content creators. I'm making
Speaker 1: this much money. He put a screenshot of fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and he made that month. I mean, that's fine.
Speaker 1: He put a swipe up, like, you know, join my account, Yeah, subscribe,
Speaker 1: that's all fine. I'm all for that. Everyone can do
Speaker 1: what they want. But then he was like, you could
Speaker 1: do this too, and it was this encouraging his younger audience,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, I don't know how I feel
Speaker 1: about that, Like, your influencer, put what you're on. You
Speaker 1: can be loud and proud, that's fine, but to be
Speaker 1: straight up encouraging your younger audience to swipe up and
Speaker 1: you can make this money too. I didn't sit well
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think that that's kind of irresponsible because
Speaker 2: what that sort of says to everyone who is following
Speaker 2: him is that, oh, it's so easy for you to
Speaker 2: make this sort of money as well, which it's not
Speaker 2: unless you already have an Instagram following that allows you
Speaker 2: to leverage your only Fans account. You're starting at point
Speaker 2: blank the same as it's really hard to a massive,
Speaker 2: huge Instagram following, it's going to be hard to a massive,
Speaker 2: huge Only Fans following. And I think in order to
Speaker 2: mass a huge only Fans following, if you're not somebody
Speaker 2: who already has a level of influence, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to create more shocking, more controversial content, more appetizing
Speaker 2: content for the people who have subscribed to you. And
Speaker 2: I guess you know, you do have to play into
Speaker 2: people's fantasies in order to continue to.
Speaker 1: Get their subscriptions.
Speaker 2: There have been a lot of people that have come
Speaker 2: out and been really vocal and very positive and supportive
Speaker 2: of only Fans from a very feminist standpoint, and I
Speaker 2: agree with some parts of the argument so wholeheartedly. Like
Speaker 2: Clementine Ford has come out and said that it empowers
Speaker 2: women to be able to make money from content that
Speaker 2: men would otherwise be getting for free. And I totally
Speaker 2: agree with that. I think that there are very strong,
Speaker 2: very business savvy, very intelligent women who are using this
Speaker 2: as a vehicle to be able to create a revenue
Speaker 2: stream for themselves and forge aly for themselves that.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be able to do if they were doing
Speaker 1: a normal nine to five job.
Speaker 2: There was this one really interesting little excerpt that I
Speaker 2: read from one of the articles, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: just read it out to you guys, and it says
Speaker 2: women are still regularly encouraged to commodify their bodies in
Speaker 2: some way as a means to progress and garner success
Speaker 2: across all industries. When they become commodities in the literal sense,
Speaker 2: though in a way that only benefits them financially, that's
Speaker 2: when people start revealing their true attitudes towards sex work. Basically,
Speaker 2: what they're saying here is like, we still commodify women's
Speaker 2: bodies in so many different aspects, like in advertising, in fashion,
Speaker 2: women's bodies are still what we're using to sell products basically,
Speaker 2: But as soon as somebody takes that into their own
Speaker 2: hands and use their body to financially benefit themselves. That's
Speaker 2: when we seem to have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it, Because you could open up
Speaker 1: Instagram right now, be a girl on there in a
Speaker 1: very sexy photo bikini or lingerie, and you won't think
Speaker 1: twice about it. But if that same photo came up
Speaker 1: and she said pay twenty dollars and I'll take it off,
Speaker 1: would be sle like slut or cheap, nasty the words
Speaker 1: that would be coming at her. But it's the same photo,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's the same thing. It's just that she's
Speaker 1: put a price on it. Now, She's just saying I'm
Speaker 1: actually worth something, and we immediately are mindset changes.
Speaker 2: I guess the real question here is that the owners
Speaker 2: shouldn't be on the people who are creating the content.
Speaker 2: The owner should be on the people who are subscribing
Speaker 2: to that content. I mean, it's a real case of
Speaker 2: supply and demand. If there wasn't a demand for it,
Speaker 2: then only fans wouldn't exist in the first place. So
Speaker 2: I guess it does frustrate me that all of the
Speaker 2: hate and the venom that gets thrown towards the site
Speaker 2: is only thrown towards the people who are creating the content.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm all for people doing what they want with
Speaker 1: their bodies. They're in control and with their whole life.
Speaker 1: People do what they want with their life. I'll support that.
Speaker 1: Is it for me absolutely not. Would I want my
Speaker 1: partner to do it, No. Would I want my child
Speaker 1: to do it No, But that's because I would worry
Speaker 1: about the repercussions later in life. The fact that it
Speaker 1: is once it's on there, and we still live in
Speaker 1: a world that's going to judge you. We still live
Speaker 1: in a world that will not employ you. It has
Speaker 1: happened to some of the Love Island people after they
Speaker 1: posted sexy photos. They couldn't get a job. Their employers
Speaker 1: were like, we can't hire you now because you're associated
Speaker 1: with our brand and we don't want that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately that is the world we still live in.
Speaker 1: I know people employers that will they'll go through your
Speaker 1: CV and then part of that is to go on.
Speaker 2: Look at your social media and like, we're not saying
Speaker 2: that that's the right mentality. We're not saying that that's
Speaker 2: what should be. People shouldn't be defined by what they've
Speaker 2: put out on the Internet by any means. But we're
Speaker 2: not there yet as a society, and there is still
Speaker 2: a stigma that follows people around for the type of
Speaker 2: content that they put on the Internet. I guess what
Speaker 2: we really wanted to talk about in this episode was
Speaker 2: we really wanted to obviously touch on the ways that
Speaker 2: it can be empowering and it can be liberating for
Speaker 2: women who have acy and who have choice, But we
Speaker 2: also really wanted to touch on the dark side, and
Speaker 2: we also wanted to touch on the cautionary side of
Speaker 2: protecting yourself, of protecting your digital security, and of protecting
Speaker 2: your digital footprint that you put out into the world.
Speaker 1: You are essentially very very vulnerable on the Internet. Whoever
Speaker 1: you are, on any site, anyone can hack your information,
Speaker 1: and that has been happening. So I just want people
Speaker 1: to be really hyper aware of the danger aspect. Look,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting chat, It's an interesting thought, and I
Speaker 1: will be interested to see where it goes over the
Speaker 1: next few years. Would you make an only fans account, Brittany? Look,
Speaker 1: do you know what I do like money? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say no, Like I know that I wouldn't, but when
Speaker 1: I was reading how much some of these people are
Speaker 1: making I'm not even posting news. I was tempted. I
Speaker 1: was like, I could what if I did it for
Speaker 1: two and this is the slippery slope. This is what
Speaker 1: you said to me. What if we just do it
Speaker 1: for two weeks and see how much money we can? Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: it's just like a trial. But the thing is then,
Speaker 1: as we said earlier in the podcast, it still has
Speaker 1: this stigma and that is attached to you. Then it's
Speaker 1: attached forever and something you do need to really weigh up.
Speaker 1: Whilst I would love one hundred thousand dollars over the
Speaker 1: next two months, I would make the choice not to
Speaker 1: do the only fans account.
Speaker 2: What about you, mate? Have you seen these feet? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start making myself some money.
Speaker 1: I just don't think anyone would pay to see me,
Speaker 1: Like I'd have to do a subscription for like a
Speaker 1: dollar fifty. You're just free. That's Instagram based. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: Instagram all right. Guys.
Speaker 2: You know that we never finish an episode with our
Speaker 2: suck and our suite, which is our highlights and our
Speaker 2: low lives of the week, and you know what, every
Speaker 2: week just feels the bloody say right.
Speaker 1: Now, it really does. I really have to struggle to
Speaker 1: think of my highlights at the moment, and that's really sad.
Speaker 1: But that is sad, like I'm not finding any more
Speaker 1: money lately. Okay, So what's your side, sweet? You start first?
Speaker 1: What you suck? Okay, my suck for.
Speaker 2: The week, which is actually just ridiculous because I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with me. I lost my
Speaker 2: wallet again. There's a second time this year, like your.
Speaker 1: Whole wallet again, my whole wallet, like the time Miley
Speaker 1: threw it out of the prem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this time it's just it's actually just vanished,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, it makes no sense whatsoever. It's
Speaker 2: not in my house like I've cleaned, I've looked. It
Speaker 2: went missing last Thursday, so it's been missing for five days.
Speaker 1: Now. Where were you last Thursday?
Speaker 2: I put it in my handbag. I went into the
Speaker 2: city for a meeting. I got into the city and
Speaker 2: I opened my handbag to go buy myself a coffee and.
Speaker 1: It wasn't there. Did you drive into the city. I
Speaker 1: drove it.
Speaker 2: I've checked my car, I've checked everywhere. It just freaking vanished.
Speaker 2: Have your card's been used.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if it's safe.
Speaker 2: Maybe just some person who's not an asshole found it
Speaker 2: and isn't using my cards. But it's like the wallet
Speaker 2: that Matt brought me for my birthday, which was in March,
Speaker 2: to make up for the fact that I lost my wallet.
Speaker 2: I've had it for two months and it's gone gone.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never met somebody that loses there
Speaker 1: well as often as you do. I think there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with me. I actually think I have definitely no
Speaker 1: there is, Like I don't think that there's definitely something
Speaker 1: wrong with This is the sort of moral support I
Speaker 1: need in my life. Who needs friends, guys, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the truth. The worst part is it's just the
Speaker 1: reordering of all the bank There's the canceling of everything,
Speaker 1: and then getting in your cards and then all your
Speaker 1: direg debts have to be chanced. It's just such a pain.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the good thing is?
Speaker 2: Though I'm so disorganized, I still hadn't gotten around to
Speaker 2: getting myself a license or a Medicare card, so I
Speaker 2: haven't I don't.
Speaker 1: Have to do it twice, I just have to do
Speaker 1: it once. Okay, I'm just gonna put something out there
Speaker 1: that's going to change your life. I've been trying to
Speaker 1: keep you to do this for a long time, but
Speaker 1: you need to link your bank account to your phone.
Speaker 1: It too hard. You also can have your license. My
Speaker 1: license is on my phone. It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: That's my tip for the WHEK.
Speaker 2: My sweet is, My sweet is Marlie. Marley has been
Speaker 2: so adorably cuddly. She just laughs about everything. It's actually
Speaker 2: disgusting how in love with her I am. She is
Speaker 2: ridicul She's I'm almost equally as in lum. I didn't
Speaker 2: think a kid could be that great.
Speaker 1: When I walked in today, Matt was holding Marley and
Speaker 1: she looked at me and she literally immediately put her
Speaker 1: arms out to come to me for a cuddle. And
Speaker 1: my heart has never felt so warm. But He's like
Speaker 1: someone just needs to hold I was like looking around,
Speaker 1: I was like, who me? Me? She loves you, loves me,
Speaker 1: and I loves you because she just hasn't seen anyone else. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: isolation has been tough times. She's like, I'll take anyone
Speaker 1: that walks into my house and say what my mom
Speaker 1: and dad.
Speaker 2: Eleven months is my favorite favorite age. So she's cutting
Speaker 2: her tooth and she got her first two. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's would we call it that yet?
Speaker 1: It's a slither. It's like, don't you take this away
Speaker 1: from her? I have to really look, but it's there.
Speaker 1: It's her greatest achievement. She's just pushed out half a
Speaker 1: tooth and you're here questioning what that is. I'm here
Speaker 1: for it. But it's the cutestal thing you can see,
Speaker 1: like the dot of why and you're like, look, go
Speaker 1: ahead too. Yeah. So that's probably really boring for everyone.
Speaker 2: I know, no one really likes baby chat, but I
Speaker 2: am obsessed with my child. That's my sweet all right,
Speaker 2: brit what's your suck?
Speaker 1: Well, you guys, remember last week on the podcast, I
Speaker 1: was telling you about how I went to Port Macquarie
Speaker 1: and with my family for Mother's Day and my beautiful
Speaker 1: big ridgeback lily. She was stealing pancakes. We had a
Speaker 1: great time, and then just a few days later, she
Speaker 1: literally just couldn't breathe properly and she couldn't lay down
Speaker 1: really out of nowhere, and my parents I wasn't there anymore.
Speaker 1: My parents called whilst I was at work, and they
Speaker 1: just don't ever call when I'm at work and I
Speaker 1: entered the phone and they were all crying. Lily was there,
Speaker 1: and they said, you've got ten minutes to say goodbye.
Speaker 1: She just went into heart failure, just out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and she couldn't breathe. And Dad was just like, it's
Speaker 1: she's so uncomfortable that he didn't even want to wait.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's happening now. I was boring because it
Speaker 1: was like your pet's like your family, like you know,
Speaker 1: everyone knows, and it was just felt weird that I
Speaker 1: was talking about her last week with the pancakes and
Speaker 1: at least she got one last good meal. But and
Speaker 1: you know, the suckiest thing about it, like obviously she's
Speaker 1: gone that sucky but because of COVID. Like my Lily
Speaker 1: has been my dad's best friend for nine years. They're
Speaker 1: so close. He wasn't even allowed in to put her
Speaker 1: to be with her when she went to sleep. Oh
Speaker 1: I know, so all he wanted to do was be
Speaker 1: with her and like, have him been the last thing
Speaker 1: she sees, and he wasn't. He had to drop her
Speaker 1: at the front door and she walked in alone and
Speaker 1: it was just like I was, I couldn't I couldn't deal.
Speaker 1: I was a mess.
Speaker 2: I just like, I can't even imagine if something happened
Speaker 2: to bust Us. So like, I my heart breaks for you, Howey.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that that happened, and I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: that you had to be here and couldn't I know,
Speaker 2: I mean out of the family, like it's that's your
Speaker 2: It's like it's like having a sibling, It's like having
Speaker 2: a baby, another baby.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, everyone's I don't think anyone escapes
Speaker 1: the loss of a pet. Everyone at some stage feels
Speaker 1: that loss. So anyway, that was one big suck for me.
Speaker 1: But my sweet something on the arp. You guys know
Speaker 1: that I like to act because you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: bit of a character. Rebel Wilson, what has happened? I
Speaker 1: love Rebel Wilson. I think she's the aans pants. I
Speaker 1: think she's hilarious. I love her because she's an educated woman,
Speaker 1: she's a lawyer. She started acting later in life. Like,
Speaker 1: I just think she's brilliant. I woke up. This is
Speaker 1: actually like two weeks ago. Now, I woke up. And
Speaker 1: but you're allowing yourself to revel in it now, Well
Speaker 1: I am because it's like it's equally mine together. Good one. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, please don't run away from this one. Hello,
Speaker 1: anybody someone paid me this? No, it's like equal suck
Speaker 1: and sweet. I just woke up and looked at my
Speaker 1: phone and it was like, Rebel Wilson started following you
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And I was like, oh, must be a
Speaker 1: an account, like a Rebel Wilson fan account. And I
Speaker 1: went on and I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: it's Rebel Wilson. Rebel Wilson's following me on Instagram. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I was so perplexed because I have
Speaker 1: no connection to Rebel Wilson, never met I don't know
Speaker 1: any that knows her, haven't tagged her any, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't understand it. I was really bewildered, but
Speaker 1: I was it's the highlight of my life, and now
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit her up so that she'll come on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 2: I would love her on the podcast if you're listening,
Speaker 2: which you definitely not, but if you are, we would
Speaker 2: love you on our podcast.
Speaker 1: A screenshot and center Sharon, and I was like, w TAF,
Speaker 1: what the actual fuck? I don't understand I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: she's obviously accidentally followed me. She's she, because why else
Speaker 1: would you follow me? Like, let's be real, a smoking babe,
Speaker 1: Why okay, can you hypothesize with me? Why would Rebel
Speaker 1: Wilson follow me? Let's just actually hypothesize this. Don't know her,
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with and no connection. I'm not
Speaker 1: acting in anything. I'm not she follows like one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people. She's got eight million followers, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people in the whole world. Why would you
Speaker 1: choose me?
Speaker 2: You know, when you're scrolling through and then you accidentally
Speaker 2: hit follow, and then one day you're like, who the
Speaker 2: hell is this person? Sarah Bladatti and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know her, and then you unfollow it.
Speaker 1: That's what she did to you, Like, who the fuck
Speaker 1: is this Brittany Olky, guys, this is girl. I'm on
Speaker 1: this high right screenshot up. Send it to my dad,
Speaker 1: send it to I think I've shown you. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? I know that this is not
Speaker 1: gonna last, so I'm really gonna rebel in it. Why
Speaker 1: don't you like have you messaged that? Because then listen,
Speaker 1: deep down, I knew that it must have been a mistake,
Speaker 1: and I knew that one day, very soon it would change.
Speaker 1: She'd be like, actually, why am I following this girl?
Speaker 1: Or who is this girl? Because she might have scrolled
Speaker 1: and accidentally done it. And I think I got two
Speaker 1: weeks out of being Rebel's best friend and she unfollowed me. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was like a real rollercoaster of emotions. Imagine my
Speaker 1: emotion I have.
Speaker 2: I have whiplash right now. That started off as your
Speaker 2: suite and really ended in your suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know when, I'm still happy that I
Speaker 1: got two weeks of Rebel, Like, I'm so happy that
Speaker 1: she found something in me for two weeks and I
Speaker 1: knew it was not gonna last. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know I did sort of picture us as best friends
Speaker 1: for a while there, but I've had to let that
Speaker 1: one go. Well, I reckon, that's a rap. Anyway, A
Speaker 1: bit of a tumultuous episode, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: We had some highs and some lows, the mens and
Speaker 2: some mounts. Yeah, but we got there bets and some downs,
Speaker 2: you might say. You some may say that I any
Speaker 2: though I actually learned something. I found it really interesting
Speaker 2: researching the whole Only Fans. I didn't know a lot
Speaker 2: about it, and I hope you guys took something from it.
Speaker 2: I hope you found some interest in it.
Speaker 1: If you really really want, go and have a Google
Speaker 1: because there are some funny stories on there too, of
Speaker 1: people like there was this one girl that we didn't
Speaker 1: actually say, she got requested to send her own PCs
Speaker 1: in a tuppway container to a guy. That's the sort
Speaker 1: of stories that are out there. So if you want
Speaker 1: a little chuckle, go and have a look.
Speaker 2: There are some weird, wild and wonderful people in the world,
Speaker 2: and I really think something like Only Fans brings them out.
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