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Speaker 1: is the podcast for ordinary people who want to do
Speaker 1: extraordinary things. Hello and welcome back to the Rise and
Speaker 1: Conquer Podcast. It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: new business owner, Wow, business owner and new mum and
Speaker 1: all the things.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: We're recording this before the end of the years.
Speaker 2: She could probably do.
Speaker 1: But I hope you guys are having the best holidays.
Speaker 1: I am currently on holidays.
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Speaker 1: And we are bringing you a little recap of your
Speaker 1: favorite episodes of twenty twenty two. So this is the
Speaker 1: most downloaded epps and themes. I fucking love them. You
Speaker 1: guys are on point because they were my favorite episodes
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Speaker 1: in a nice little bow for you so you can
Speaker 1: just hear the most potent important parts and just get
Speaker 1: a little injact of motivation and inspiration. Happy New Year, everyone,
Speaker 1: I hope you're having the best holiday. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to be officially back in your ears soon. But for now,
Speaker 1: enjoy the app romance of becoming. Let's romance the fuck
Speaker 1: out of our lives and our mornings and our art.
Speaker 1: Let's say yes to the romance, but not the romance.
Speaker 1: We were brought up to believe in the romance of ourselves,
Speaker 1: the romance of living, the romance of the way we
Speaker 1: move and the way we dress and the way we
Speaker 1: see ourselves, the romance of cafes and the romance of becoming,
Speaker 1: the romance of all the people we are yet to meet,
Speaker 1: and all the ways we are yet to try on.
Speaker 1: Let's romance our lives. Because when we romance ourselves, we
Speaker 1: fall for ourselves too. Brook solace, guys, Today we are
Speaker 1: chatting romanticizing the fuck out of our lives. That was
Speaker 1: the most beautiful quote. I had to read it to you, guys,
Speaker 1: because we saw it on Instagram and we had already
Speaker 1: decided to do this podcast. About romance your life, and
Speaker 1: it just we're like, oh my god, this is perfect.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jamie for finding that one. So today, guys,
Speaker 1: let's chat romanticizing our lives. So, if you have social media,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you do. If you listen to this podcast,
Speaker 1: especially like TikTok, or you enjoy watching reels on Instagram,
Speaker 1: you would notice the algorithm is really pushing these ten
Speaker 1: to thirty second videos of that girl. I actually have
Speaker 1: an episode on that girl, which I will link the
Speaker 1: show notes because it's all about how to be that
Speaker 1: girl and how to have magnetic energy. And it's a
Speaker 1: good it's one of our most downloaded episodes. But basically
Speaker 1: that content is really being pushed and honestly like they're
Speaker 1: doing very mundane things, but it just looks fucking cool,
Speaker 1: Like it looks like they have their life together, like
Speaker 1: their you know a girl who and if you don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, So basically, she wakes up,
Speaker 1: she makes her coffee in this like really cute cup.
Speaker 1: You know, there's usually a bunch of flowers somewhere, she
Speaker 1: puts some cute active wear, meditates journals. You feel like
Speaker 1: she's got her life together and you feel like she's
Speaker 1: a bit fab and let's be honest, like you want
Speaker 1: to be her. Like if you haven't got your life together,
Speaker 1: you watch one of those and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I need to get my life together. And it just
Speaker 1: looks like she's, yeah, really loving life. She's honestly doing
Speaker 1: the most fundane things, but it just looks like she
Speaker 1: has a great life. You know, you can you can
Speaker 1: buy aesthetically pleasing things that make you feel a certain way,
Speaker 1: a no pot of coffee. It can literally be that
Speaker 1: small and simple, or it could be making something a ritual.
Speaker 1: At the end of the episode, I will put in
Speaker 1: some snippets because we went into the NH office and
Speaker 1: we ask the n H girls like how do they
Speaker 1: roam fanticize their lives? And they were all such small rituals,
Speaker 1: but they were so beautiful. So you'll you'll hear that
Speaker 1: at the end. So it doesn't have to be anything
Speaker 1: crazy and you don't actually have to go buy things.
Speaker 1: It's just about what is meaningful to you. And also,
Speaker 1: can I just touch on something. Maybe it's not that
Speaker 1: you like, you know, pretty things or things to look
Speaker 1: in a certain way. Maybe it's just like you like
Speaker 1: your environment clean or whatever it is. You've got to
Speaker 1: find what kind of like tickles your fancy and go
Speaker 1: off that. So that's obviously like some tangible stuff and
Speaker 1: that's amazing, but it wouldn't be an R and C
Speaker 1: episode if we didn't get into like the mindset and
Speaker 1: like the self development behind this. Because again, if we're
Speaker 1: doing all these things and we're buying the pretty things
Speaker 1: and we're doing the rituals, but they're actually not you
Speaker 1: know what lights us up. We haven't done the inner way,
Speaker 1: and we haven't really you know, dived deep into why
Speaker 1: we might be feeling a certain way, why we feel
Speaker 1: like we can't show up as that girl. Then these
Speaker 1: tangible things are not going to work. We need to
Speaker 1: do the inner work first, and then that is going
Speaker 1: to shine outwards. So the biggest thing with romanticizing your
Speaker 1: life is you can't just copy what I've said. You
Speaker 1: need to find what works for you, what actually feels
Speaker 1: good for you. But you also need to get into
Speaker 1: a place where you love yourself wholeheartily enough to believe
Speaker 1: you are worthy of these small moments of joy, You're
Speaker 1: worthy of enjoying the process of enjoying every day because
Speaker 1: I believe there would be so many people who don't
Speaker 1: romanticize their life because they just think they're not worthy
Speaker 1: of the beautiful life. They're not worthy enjoying, you know,
Speaker 1: those small moments or buying the cute station, and those
Speaker 1: things are not going to fix anything. If it's like,
Speaker 1: it's just going to be basically a band aide, if
Speaker 1: you haven't done the inner work, and if you haven't
Speaker 1: kind of really dived deep into why you don't feel
Speaker 1: worthy of romanticizing your life. Be a bit of fun
Speaker 1: to ask the girls in the NHH warehouse how they
Speaker 1: romanticize their lives.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, I'm Brooke and I'm the community manager here
Speaker 3: at Naked Harvest. I romanticize my life by waking up
Speaker 3: early on Sunday mornings and going for a nice, big walk.
Speaker 1: And getting a coffee. Hi. My name's Courtney and I'm
Speaker 1: the wholesale distribution manager at Naked Harvest. And I romanticize
Speaker 1: my life by starting the day with an forty five workout. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: is Cura here, social media coordinator at ENDH and I
Speaker 1: love to romanticize my life by going for an afternoon
Speaker 1: walk and listening to a poddy Hi, guys, it's Leya here,
Speaker 1: the PR coordinator at Naked Harvest. I romanticize my life
Speaker 1: by going for long walks on a Saturday and getting
Speaker 1: a coffee and almond croissant. Hi.
Speaker 3: I'm Mel. I'm the brand executive at Naked Harvest, and
Speaker 3: I romanticized my life by putting on some tunes while
Speaker 3: I cook my dinner with a glass of wine.
Speaker 1: What has been the hardest thing about the business for you?
Speaker 4: The hardest thing for me in my side was the logistics.
Speaker 4: So the packaging was very difficult. Yeah, like when we
Speaker 4: come to COVID, it was very difficult with freight and
Speaker 4: getting things in and that was a lot of.
Speaker 1: We experienced a lot of delay shipping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really bad.
Speaker 1: Even at the start coup remember before Naked Harvest, like
Speaker 1: even started to do the packaging with the cylinder was
Speaker 1: like a nightmare. Yeah, the samples and remember how back
Speaker 1: and forth when at one point is like we just
Speaker 1: can't do it. Me and Mel were like, we want it.
Speaker 2: It makes us different.
Speaker 1: I remember that being on nightmare.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It's still a nightmare, guy.
Speaker 4: And the start was getting big trucks sent to my
Speaker 4: Palm Beach house which was a tiny as so me
Speaker 4: and Ash were at the front getting boxes, bringing them
Speaker 4: in SOI I'd go into the garage and then bringing
Speaker 4: them back inside. And but yeah, logistics, which is still
Speaker 4: similar issues, but we are a lot better now. But
Speaker 4: I learned a lot of Yeah, there's still problems all
Speaker 4: the time. But yeah, we could plan.
Speaker 3: To launch a product, you know, in a few months,
Speaker 3: and that launch would go out the window. It'd be
Speaker 3: pushedback months, like there was just no control.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you remember when Moonmilk was sold
Speaker 1: out for so long and it was like our best
Speaker 1: selling products couldn't get it, and we just couldn't get
Speaker 1: packaging and it was this whole nightmare.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after that, I went and ordered too many.
Speaker 1: Since the moon milk, so didn't order enough. And then
Speaker 1: since the moon milk, Cooper does this thing where he
Speaker 1: like overs orders and we have so much stock and
Speaker 1: we're like, why did you order so much?
Speaker 4: That has changed now, yes, yeah, Alex now and yeah
Speaker 4: she's sorting out logistics and she's very good.
Speaker 1: My I think my hardest part of the business is
Speaker 1: probably like the HR hiring part, and I think that
Speaker 1: just comes with like the learning curves of getting good
Speaker 1: people who not only are great at their job, but
Speaker 1: also like align with Naked Harvest and align with our
Speaker 1: personalities and how we like to, you know, do things.
Speaker 1: I think you can probably tell we all have a
Speaker 1: certain sort of personality intense at stress, intense and like
Speaker 1: just very hard working and like you know, ride or
Speaker 1: die like and h is our life. Willing to do anything,
Speaker 1: you know, willing to go above them beyond, And it's
Speaker 1: just so, I don't know, it never occurred to me
Speaker 1: that that was even something you kind of had to
Speaker 1: think about. And coming from a place where I've never
Speaker 1: hired people and I've never had to like do anything
Speaker 1: like that. I was always employed myself. That side of
Speaker 1: things was just like a whole of the ball game,
Speaker 1: because it's not even about the business and how it
Speaker 1: runs and marketing and that. It's, yeah, it's just this
Speaker 1: whole other thing. We're actually having to deal with people,
Speaker 1: and I think managing people for me, especially being you know,
Speaker 1: only in my twenties. In my I was going to
Speaker 1: say early twenties, but I'm not. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this, guys, but I'm in my early twenties.
Speaker 1: Your girl, I used to be in my early twenties.
Speaker 1: But that just has been huge because sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: I just feel not capable. But it's been great learning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, But yet we have been very lucky with
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, incredible, Yeah for it exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we've built quite a good team.
Speaker 3: We all work very well together and kind of have
Speaker 3: the mentality where because we are still such a small team. Guys,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you really know, but you know,
Speaker 3: our eCOM marketing team upstairs is a team of five,
Speaker 3: and three of those people do marketing. So the stuff
Speaker 3: that we do there are you know, like everyone has
Speaker 3: their own zone of genius and we all compliment each
Speaker 3: other really well. But we also work really well together,
Speaker 3: and I think that's been like the biggest thing for
Speaker 3: us in hiring is finding the right.
Speaker 1: People who gel together.
Speaker 3: Because we are such a small team, we need like
Speaker 3: people to cover all bass you know.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, for example, a great
Speaker 1: example is like this week where our graphic designer has
Speaker 1: gone on her honeymoon and then we've had a gap
Speaker 1: between our other graphic designer coming back from maternity leave,
Speaker 1: and so like Kier and Mell are like on canva.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like teaming it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like you've just got to be scrappy
Speaker 1: and get things done and you've got to have team
Speaker 1: mates who are ready to do that and just like
Speaker 1: do all the thing because it is still like a
Speaker 1: small business in that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, well kind of. I think my hardest thing
Speaker 3: about I don't know, just this business has been I
Speaker 3: think the growing pains, don't you reckon, Like in three
Speaker 3: years we've experienced like rapid growth, and I think the
Speaker 3: hardest thing is almost keeping up with that, but also
Speaker 3: making sure that we're like I think the biggest thing
Speaker 3: for Naked Harvest is we are always like our goal
Speaker 3: is to be trailblazers in the industry. That's you know,
Speaker 3: we found a gap in the market and we filled
Speaker 3: that and now our goal is to be ahead. So
Speaker 3: in my side of things, constantly making sure that our
Speaker 3: brand is at the head of the pack and that
Speaker 3: we are innovative and always thinking of new things and
Speaker 3: speaking to our you know, customers, we know what they want.
Speaker 3: We know, you know, even if they don't have it yet,
Speaker 3: we know how to grow and we know how to
Speaker 3: continue to give them what they need. That's been so hard.
Speaker 1: But I was about to say, you know, with the
Speaker 1: success that has come with being the Trailblazers is also
Speaker 1: you know, the failures too, and then the not knowing.
Speaker 1: I think a great example is what we experience with
Speaker 1: our Mystery Boxers. Now.
Speaker 3: So this is the first time we'd ever done an
Speaker 3: activation like this before, and we were you know, like
Speaker 3: obviously I am a very planned, strategic person, so I
Speaker 3: did think of all different you know, outcomes, and I
Speaker 3: tried to think of every single thing that.
Speaker 2: Could potentially happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, cover all our bases for something that
Speaker 3: we've never done before.
Speaker 2: But we still experienced issues.
Speaker 1: You know, and we we just like we always want
Speaker 1: to be optimistics, but we just did not expect the
Speaker 1: amount of orders we got, and then we had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of issues.
Speaker 2: Which this is a good problem to have, yeah.
Speaker 1: For us, So no, but I definitely mean in those circumstances,
Speaker 1: like it's an amazing problem to have. But that is
Speaker 1: definitely a hard part part of like when you're doing
Speaker 1: new things and when you're constantly trying to go above
Speaker 1: and beyond and do new fun things, you do come
Speaker 1: about like a whole other hostal problems that you kind
Speaker 1: of just didn't even think of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I think, yeah, I think we're doing
Speaker 3: a great job. Though yeah we always fail forward. We
Speaker 3: never let it, you know, determine our fate. We don't
Speaker 3: let problems just you know, overrun, and then we think
Speaker 3: of always learning. Y.
Speaker 1: I love that, you know, love that. I use words like,
Speaker 1: you know, stepping into alignment, following your intuition, stepping into
Speaker 1: your most authentic self. And I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people they just they're like, what the fuck are
Speaker 1: you talking about because they haven't experienced either that or
Speaker 1: much of that.
Speaker 2: And or seeing someone who is in alignment. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get that because that was me seven
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, So and.
Speaker 1: Also guys like I guess just to explain. So let's
Speaker 1: try and explain the feeling first, and then I'll get
Speaker 1: into how I felt seven years ago compared to now.
Speaker 2: But like, alignment to me feels.
Speaker 1: So flowy, so easy, but also like not the easy,
Speaker 1: like I haven't worked for it, like the easy, like
Speaker 1: I know I am worth it and I know I
Speaker 1: am deserving and I know this ease and flow is
Speaker 1: because I've you know, overcome challenges to get here and
Speaker 1: I deserve to get to this place. And I just
Speaker 1: feel so certain of myself and so certain of like
Speaker 1: if anything was to happen, I would be okay and
Speaker 1: like I would know what to do. I trust myself
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, like I'm gonna like start crying.
Speaker 1: But it's like I just remember like not feeling like
Speaker 1: that seven years ago, and I felt like that for
Speaker 1: like most of my life. Yeah, and it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like this feeling of just you feel
Speaker 1: uncertain and you just feel like so lost. But then
Speaker 1: it also just feels like you don't know what's better,
Speaker 1: and it feels so normal to you, and you kind
Speaker 1: of you know there's something better out there, and you
Speaker 1: like want more for yourself, but you just feel like
Speaker 1: so stuck and it feels so hard and everything just
Speaker 1: feels like.
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 1: And then like and I used to feel like that
Speaker 1: every single day. And also I just I did not
Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable to be myself. Yes, I just
Speaker 1: felt I felt so wrong. I felt like me as
Speaker 1: a person something was wrong with me. And I just
Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like good enough. I just felt
Speaker 1: like I'm like and It's not that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a piece of shit or like anything like that,
Speaker 1: but I just thought, there's nothing specially about me. There's
Speaker 1: I'm going to live an ordinary life, and it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just didn't feel like anything. But
Speaker 1: then it's like it didn't feel really bad, but it
Speaker 1: didn't feel really good, and it just kind of felt
Speaker 1: like I was sleepwalking a bit and I was just
Speaker 1: like a bit numb to things.
Speaker 2: And it's just I.
Speaker 1: Guess the reason why I'm getting emotional is because that
Speaker 1: felt so normal and if I, you know, didn't find
Speaker 1: these things and had this transformation, I would still be
Speaker 1: feeling like that. And I just feel like so many
Speaker 1: people are feeling like that, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: if we're getting to the craccident, Like that is why
Speaker 1: I created the project, because I'm like, it's not that
Speaker 1: it's so simple. There is you know, a lot to that,
Speaker 1: but it's like it can just feel so much better.
Speaker 1: And when when you like step into alignment and you
Speaker 1: like find these tools, like you said, it's like these
Speaker 1: subtle changes and you can't even like pinpoint what has
Speaker 1: changed because it's like maybe the external actually hasn't changed
Speaker 1: that much, but you just you feel different. And I
Speaker 1: think it's also like just this like sense of peace
Speaker 1: of myself and my life, whereas before I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, I didn't feel that. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: it's also it's so weird to even say, but knowing
Speaker 1: that you're in the right place and not worrying about
Speaker 1: where you're going next yet, Yes, like having no stress
Speaker 1: or anxiety about the future because you just you know
Speaker 1: it's going to be okay whatever happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. So well I went off on
Speaker 1: attach to then, and I think I the reason why
Speaker 1: I do get emotional is because, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: our new slogan TEA is like ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Yes,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like I'm not special, Like there's
Speaker 1: nothing special about me. If you look at me seven
Speaker 1: years ago, to me to me now, it's like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: she's a whole different person. Yeah, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I get what you mean.
Speaker 1: And I think, like, I guess the reason why I
Speaker 1: get emotional is like anyone listening to this who felt
Speaker 1: who feels that like how I felt who feels like
Speaker 1: that now, it's like life can be so much better,
Speaker 1: and I just I get upset thinking of people who
Speaker 1: will just then continue to live their life like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not that it's bad, no, because it's like
Speaker 1: my life was fine. Yeah, it was so fine, but
Speaker 1: then just how I feel now, it's just like next level.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, it can just feel like better than you
Speaker 1: could have imagined. That's the only way I can describe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, guys. So, like if I think about myself
Speaker 1: seven years ago, like I was kind of saying, like
Speaker 1: I just like life was fine. I was with Tim,
Speaker 1: I was doing my law degree, I had you know,
Speaker 1: a pretty good group of friends, pretty good support. But
Speaker 1: I just I felt like, I how do I articulate this?
Speaker 1: A thing I've noticed only recently is that I feel
Speaker 1: like when you're not in alignment, you're in a rush.
Speaker 1: And I know that's a very weird way to explain it,
Speaker 1: but it's like, if you're not in alignment and you're
Speaker 1: just constantly trying to work to your next goal all
Speaker 1: the time, and you're on a timeline and you're like,
Speaker 1: I need well this by this state, this, by this date,
Speaker 1: this by this date and you're just going and going
Speaker 1: and going. Yes, that's great, and you probably feel pretty
Speaker 1: good because you're achieving goals and hitting goals. But if
Speaker 1: you're constantly in a rush to get to the next goal,
Speaker 1: it means you're not happy where you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you're happy where you are and you're in
Speaker 1: alignment and you know that, yes, I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: here right now. I don't know how long I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be in this position. There's something that I have
Speaker 1: to learn, and then the next thing will come when
Speaker 1: it's supposed to come. There's no reason for me to
Speaker 1: rush to get there. Yeah, And you're just you're not worried.
Speaker 2: You're not worried at all.
Speaker 4: You're not.
Speaker 1: You'll come when it's time, if it's ten years, if
Speaker 1: it's one year, if it's six months.
Speaker 2: But there's no rush to leave where you're at.
Speaker 1: That's a really insightful Yeah, like explanation.
Speaker 4: I loved that.
Speaker 2: Thanks. So if I.
Speaker 1: Think about me, you know, seven years ago, like the
Speaker 1: before Georgie, you had this like transformation, it's yeah. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, living at a home with Tim, going out
Speaker 1: a lot with my friends, doing my law job and
Speaker 1: like I said, like I felt that way, but it's
Speaker 1: like life was fine, Like it's not like anything super.
Speaker 2: Bad was happening, but yeah, like you're becoming a lawyer.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah, Like yeah, and.
Speaker 1: It was fine and I felt, you know, pretty good.
Speaker 1: But it's like I just remember, the internal was different.
Speaker 1: So the internal staff was I had a lot of
Speaker 1: disordered eating issues, so I was constantly trying to just
Speaker 1: be smaller just it didn't matter. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: be smaller. I wanted to be skinnier, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be you know, fitter. I just I wanted to be
Speaker 1: not what I was. And so I was dealing with
Speaker 1: a lot of these like and to the outside, I
Speaker 1: think it would have looked, you know, like because I was,
Speaker 1: you know, losing weight and I'd get like congratulations and
Speaker 1: like this positive feedback. So on the outside it probably
Speaker 1: looked like, you know, life was good and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But it's like on the internal, it wasn't. It like
Speaker 1: really wasn't. And I had a really bad minute like
Speaker 1: in a Mean Girl, which was the you know the
Speaker 1: reason why I was chasing this like external happiness of
Speaker 1: once I'm skinnier, I'll be happier, and I have to
Speaker 1: be It's almost like this sense of like perfectionism, like
Speaker 1: I just needed to be perfect and then my life
Speaker 1: would be perfect. So I had to get the perfect
Speaker 1: body and then my life would be perfect. So on
Speaker 1: the external it looked fine. It looks like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: just gone a gym. She's like living her life, and
Speaker 1: like I just go to gym now, like almost not
Speaker 1: similar because I was being a bit crazy back then.
Speaker 1: But it's like my internal world was.
Speaker 2: Really fucking dark and really like not good.
Speaker 1: The things I used to say to myself and that
Speaker 1: sort of side of things just like really not good.
Speaker 1: And I was just suffering in silence a lot, and
Speaker 1: I just thought that was normal. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: having those thoughts about yourself was normal, and it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, normal to always want to be better and
Speaker 1: to always want to be different. And I also just
Speaker 1: remember I just had no sense of I was always
Speaker 1: looking to other people for things. So and I know
Speaker 1: you felt this way to a tear of like I
Speaker 1: would I would be that person who like polled all
Speaker 1: my friends and be like should I do this? I
Speaker 1: just had no trust in myself and even to the
Speaker 1: point of like I remember, like for an outfit on
Speaker 1: the weekend, I would like scroll for hours on Instagram,
Speaker 1: find the perfect photo of like some girl who looked
Speaker 1: like she had the best life, and like copy her outfit.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know exactly what you mean, and like to
Speaker 2: think of doing that.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't dream of that because I just pick
Speaker 1: what I like, yes, Whereas before it's like, you know.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what I used to do that.
Speaker 1: I would look to other people for inspiration, to other
Speaker 1: people for what should I wear? What should I do?
Speaker 1: I just had no internal compass and I just had
Speaker 1: no trust in myself, Like I would never dream of
Speaker 1: just going to the store and just like picking something because.
Speaker 2: Without sending your friend's photos, asking them what.
Speaker 1: They and just because I liked it and because it
Speaker 1: felt good to me. It was like it's like I
Speaker 1: thought that was normal, But now, being the way I am,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fucked up.
Speaker 2: You know what tell us is so sad. I feel
Speaker 2: like that is normal, but it's not.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, Like a lot of people might be
Speaker 1: a lot to this thinking yeah I do that, that's normal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like I and I'm sure I could probably find
Speaker 1: it in my phone notes. But I would, yeah, like
Speaker 1: exactly what you said, poll people on what do you
Speaker 1: think of this outfit, this outfit or this appit or
Speaker 1: this hairstyle or this hairstyle, and I'd send like people
Speaker 1: and I would tell Tally the results and that would
Speaker 1: be my decision. But I wouldn't get a vote. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like, I know people probably don't do it to that.
Speaker 4: Extent, but pretty extremity.
Speaker 1: I was like myself, But like, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people will go to the store and they might
Speaker 1: send their friends a few pictures in the change room.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything too wrong with that, but
Speaker 1: they might be leaning towards, say a pink dress, and
Speaker 1: one of their friends is like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, you look stunning in the black, and then they're like, oh.
Speaker 4: Just get the black then.
Speaker 1: But it's like, if you felt better in the pink dress,
Speaker 1: you should be getting the pink dress. And it's funny
Speaker 1: because I do this now where I'll pull tim about
Speaker 1: things and you'll often say always the opposite, and they
Speaker 1: do the opposite, and I'll be like, noah, fuck that,
Speaker 1: I look way better than this, and I just don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck what he said, also like I want
Speaker 1: to know exactly like you just want other people, but
Speaker 1: then I like try myself and I just and then
Speaker 1: also like that's honestly the reason why I did a
Speaker 1: whole degree that I'm now not using just fucking had
Speaker 1: to pay hex on and really because it was like,
Speaker 1: if I become a lawyer, which is, you know, a
Speaker 1: prestigious job, I will first full make my parents proud.
Speaker 1: Imagine saying that in a conversation, like I this is
Speaker 1: something that went through my mind of I could tell
Speaker 1: people I was a lawyer, and that's like, I think
Speaker 1: that's also normal in itself, but also I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: that and I'm like, that's fucked, and I just think
Speaker 1: how I feel now with I'm like and for instance,
Speaker 1: like even bringing out this course was a huge not challenge,
Speaker 1: but it was a huge kind of step for me
Speaker 1: because for a long time I was kind of embarrassed
Speaker 1: talking and telling people that I manifested things because it
Speaker 1: was so taboo back then. Yeah, like I remember kind
Speaker 1: of wanting to have the conversation you know, with my
Speaker 1: friends or tim or my mom and dad and talking
Speaker 1: about these concepts, but just feeling like I, you know, like.
Speaker 2: We were a girl.
Speaker 1: I was that we were girl. I was that weird girl.
Speaker 1: And it like takes me back to high school, when
Speaker 1: like I wasn't cool enough, you know. And it's like,
Speaker 1: and that's another thing. In high school. I just remember
Speaker 1: I would do anything to be liked. I would do
Speaker 1: anything to like not even be liked, but just be
Speaker 1: like normal, just be fit in, fit in. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like I just wouldn't couldn't even tell you what
Speaker 1: And I think this is normal for a teenager, but
Speaker 1: it's absolutely I couldn't tell you what I liked or
Speaker 1: even what felt authentically me. But that still was happening
Speaker 1: in you know, my early twenties, which I think is
Speaker 1: also normal. So normal, so normal. But like I do
Speaker 1: have friends who are now in their early thirties who
Speaker 1: was in the same boat, which is why you don't
Speaker 1: want to be, yeah, who were kind of doing the
Speaker 1: same things as they were when they were in their
Speaker 1: early twenties, like maybe a little bit different, but they're
Speaker 1: still you can tell they are still stuck in this
Speaker 1: place where they don't they don't trust their intuition, they
Speaker 1: don't have them, you know, they haven't strengthened their internal
Speaker 1: compass because all these things we're talking about, like intuition alignment,
Speaker 1: it's not it is. I feel like some people just
Speaker 1: like have it and I do, and I'm like jealous
Speaker 1: of those people. But for me, it is something I've
Speaker 1: had to learn and strengthen over time, and I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to continue, you know, strengthening it and continue being
Speaker 1: an alignment. But yeah, so going back seven years ago,
Speaker 1: like I said, life is fine, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing my law job and doing this and that.
Speaker 1: As soon as I kind of made that big step
Speaker 1: of quitting my law job and then really being in
Speaker 1: this place of like, fuck, I need to you know,
Speaker 1: make things happen for myself in my own way because
Speaker 1: I've just taken this big jump and that was really
Speaker 1: the catalyst of me in my self development journey, me
Speaker 1: in you know, starting to use these tools, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So then let's kind of was that Did
Speaker 1: that kind of paint a good picture for your tier
Speaker 1: of like how I felt seven years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I find it so interesting that the only word you
Speaker 1: used to describe it was fine.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you noticed that, did I just did?
Speaker 1: They keep saying fine? Fine?
Speaker 2: I was fine. It was fine. No, like like it
Speaker 2: wasn't bad, but it was so good.
Speaker 1: And that's the things. It wasn't that like like you
Speaker 1: were just fine sort of going. Yeah, well, I do
Speaker 1: use the term often in like copy of like it
Speaker 1: kind of felt like a sleepwalking a bit, like just
Speaker 1: kind of going through the motions. Yes, there wasn't any
Speaker 1: like enjoyment. Those that's things I did enjoy myself and
Speaker 1: life was like and I used to have some really
Speaker 1: great days and like that sort of thing. But I
Speaker 1: guess having hindsight now looking back, I was like compared
Speaker 1: to now, I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Yeah, thank you so much for listening
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