WEBVTT - HOW TO SURVIVOR WITH KING KHAN 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.400 TV Reload the podcast last week, don't I welcome back 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.480 guys to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.320 this podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.360 players in television. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.120 Yeah, great questions. The show's about the game. There's a 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.520 lot of great television out there in Australia. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.040 But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.239 The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.119 had nothing to do with the news and casting agents. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.440 They know from a casting point of view what they need. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.960 And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.360 Not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.479 some of the best TV in Australia. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.879 I have been on the program since the beginning and 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:40.839 it's kind of in my DNA. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.320 So thanks for joining me each week and I hope 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.599 the podcast continues to give you real insight into the 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.160 magic of television today. On the podcast, I have cahn Ong, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.360 who is the eleventh person to be eliminated from Australian 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.840 Survivor twenty twenty two. Channel ten didn't have to look 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.560 far with this reality TV Superstar, having come competed in 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.680 two seasons of Australian Master Chef, and I don't even 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.560 think the producers at EndemolShine Australia had any idea how 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.480 great a player Khan would prove to be. While he 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.360 won sixty thousand dollars before being eliminated last night, Khan 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.039 walked away with his handheld high and a nickname commonly 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.800 used to a super player, that being a King. We 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.080 talk about what the game would have looked like had 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.200 his sister Amy survived a little longer, what he thinks 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.960 about Sam not giving him the heads up a secret injury, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.280 and who he thinks will win. There's plenty more to 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.319 come in out chat and without further ado, let's welcome 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.280 King Khan to TV Reload. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.440 I tried really hard to speak to the fans previously 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:49.080 on Australian Survivor. I tore a muscle in my shoulder 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.760 and I didn't even know when to my left. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.480 Master Chef alumni can't on team enough to take on 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.360 the ultimate game of Survivor. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.720 Yeah, she could have told me, but that would have 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.840 jeopardized her relationship with the other people we have MAJORI 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.840 I told you that. What on earth would you say? 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.760 We can't wait? Did you write a makeup artist into 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.160 your contract? When I first voted out of Blood versus 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:14.200 Water first member of our jury? Can't wait a minute? 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.600 Are you all blindsiding me? 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.280 Congratulations on such an impressive time on Australian Survivor. How 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.960 do you feel now that you can fully talk about it. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.280 I'm happy that I can tweet about it properly, I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.000 can watch it, I can talk about him as a 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.399 fan now. Before this, I was like, oh my god, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.639 what can I say? Why can't I say? I don't 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.920 want to offend anyone, but I've been such a massive 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.440 fan of the series for so long when I just like, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:37.799 I just wanted to be there. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.320 You know, I think you were very active on Twitter, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.880 and I think that you were fantastic for fans to 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.560 interact with. Even for me, it was really surreal because 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.120 I wanted to write to you all the time and 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.200 ask you lots of questions, but I just thought that 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.799 was totally unprofessional, so I just had to wait until 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:54.400 this time. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.359 I tried really hard to speak to the fans and 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.680 kind of dissect certain things, but not give too much 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.080 away either, because there's obviously reasons why we don't see 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.520 certain scenes or see certain relationships or conversations. So sometimes 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.520 it's best if I don't talk about it. But then 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.720 there are certain little things where I'm like, Okay, this 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.960 is what happened, and this is why that worked out 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:16.320 that way. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.280 Is there a time where you're thinking, wow, this is 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.440 not how it happened in my mind, because think about it, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.640 we can all walk into a room and see something 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.200 and walk out and have a different interpretation of it, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.080 and then you've got reality television, which means that it 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.799 could be edited a certain way or from a different 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.080 person's narrative. How much of your experience was like what 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.320 the TV showed us? 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.600 The majority of my experience is exactly what you see 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.120 on the TV. But there were moments where like, for example, 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.840 there was a vote where the vote didn't happen because 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.880 Alex went home, and the way that we saw on 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.440 that episode because he left was that I was going 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.480 to get blindsided, but that wasn't going to happen because 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.480 that was what we wanted Sophie to think was happening. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.360 So we were seeing that side of the story where 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.920 it's like, Okay, if one's voting on Calm this one day, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.720 but that wasn't actually the case. We were doing that 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.840 to kind of make Sophie feel like I was leaving. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.600 But we're only seeing one side of that because we're 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.280 all acting like do you know what I mean? Like, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.880 we're all trying to like trying to protect Sophie's idea 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.119 of the game. But that was what we ended up seeing. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.200 But for one minute there, I went, wait a minute, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.880 are you all blind siding men? So I was texting 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.880 people I was watching it, be like was I going 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.560 home this night? And Anyone's like, no, no, no, no, no, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.280 we guarantee you were not going. And I was like, okay, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.560 so I had to like double check. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.719 Isn't it strange though, that Survivor you are allowed to 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.960 get away with so much that on other reality shows 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.840 you'd be absolutely crucified for. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.720 Yeah, I think that again, like Survivor, you can't do it. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.479 You can't be a fan, you can't watch it, and 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.760 you can't play it without understanding that people will lie 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.440 to you, you'll get stabbed in the back, and people 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.400 will make really hard decisions because that's how you get further. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.880 The whole idea is to be the sole survivor. The 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.839 idea isn't to protect relationship. Obviously, there are ways that 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.800 you can play the game where it's not super offensive 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.880 or aggressive. That's how I think I chose to play 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.920 the game. But I can't get annoyed. I can't get 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.119 annoyed about someone doing better than me. Like the tribe 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.159 got rid of me yesterday because I'm a threat, and 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 that's great, but they outplayed me. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.719 Well, let's start at the start. The last time I 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.359 spoke to you, you mentioned that you were interested in 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.240 a few upcoming reality shows. How long has this one 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.760 been cooking for in the background. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.039 I've been wanting this for so long. I've been wanting 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.120 this for so long. I literally, I think last year 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.440 I basically said this is the one I'm going for. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.440 I'm saying no to every single other show. I will 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.080 not do anything until I get survival because this is 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.200 what I wanted and I didn't want to jeopardize it 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.520 by doing anything else. I was like, no, No, I applied, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.200 and they went through the whole audition process and once 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.280 we got the okay and and they're like, oh, we 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.560 want someone else to come with you, And I was like, oh, great, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.320 Amy's not going to come with me. She hates things 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.960 on TV, she doesn't like attention, She's not going to 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.159 do this, and then she ended up falling in love 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.800 with it and like and being totally obsessed with the game. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.320 She wants to play again. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.520 I was obsessed with Amy on the show, like I honestly, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.040 I really enjoyed her time, and I think there's some 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.960 kind of proof that people who don't really want to 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.760 go on reality are perfect for reality. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.000 I just couldn't get over how fun sure that she was. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.240 I'm like, why did you why did you do that move? 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.120 And why did you go home? And I got really 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.440 bored because no one was doing anything that is such 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.160 a herb and her skin when we talk about the 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.120 fact that my sister's skin got better every single day 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.800 she was out there, and I'm like, wait, did you 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.040 write a makeup artist into your contract? Like, what's going 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:37.400 on here? 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.160 You both did. Actually, let's just talk about that fairly. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.280 I was like last night watching your like looking at 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.360 your skin and looking how fit and healthy you looked. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.840 I think you both really blossomed through the whole experience. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.080 It's probably the lack of toxins that were going into 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.599 that body. No alcohol, no bad fat, no bad cups, 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:01.040 no process anything like my body was. He was like, Yep, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.120 we like this kind of lifestyle. Literally, I left and 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.880 that skiller I need to shove to heal. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.320 A as What does the audition process look like for 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.760 someone like yourself who has already been on something as 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.920 big as Master Chef? I mean, do you think that 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.560 holds you back or did it make the producers think, Oh, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.000 I don't know if this is going to work, or 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:20.440 do you think it worked in your favor? 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.000 I don't know if it worked in my favor. I 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.680 thought that it wasn't going to I thought that being 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.400 on this Chef already, that people would be like, no, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.600 that we're not bringing him on another show. And then 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.440 I was really worried that the fans would think the 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.600 same thing. I thought that they would go, Okay, he's 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.320 done Master Chef, he only just wants to jump into 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.280 another show. But that wasn't the case. Like Survivor, I 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.000 wanted to play. And I'm really happy that the viewers 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.280 at home when they watched it, they kind of understood 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:47.840 that and they were super supportive of it, and that 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.280 they could see that no, no, I was there to play. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.920 I wasn't there to just be on TV. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.960 Well, you can't fake the truth, you know, I think authentically, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.320 once you turn up on television, it would have been 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.680 written all over your face if that's all it was. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.080 If you were so out of place because you shouldn't 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.960 have been there, and it was just a grab at 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.400 something else. Fewers would have known that. But from the 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.880 moment that you turn up on that show, I realized 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.160 you were a Super Survivor fan. What was that feeling 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.920 like to finally get the yes and then be playing 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:18.880 for realsies. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.560 I'm telling you now. As soon as I got that yes, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.880 I was like, Okay, the workouts have to happen. I've 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.040 got to practice my puzzles. But I was training so 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.120 hard for it. I flew my sister and I to 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.880 Darwin to learn how to make fire with a survival 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.480 expert because I was like, we need to know how 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.560 to do these things, Amy, and we need to know now. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.040 I was so pumped for it. I was like, even 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.760 me thinking about it now, like it was the best, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.520 the best feeling. I just couldn't believe that I actually 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.320 got the chance to do it and they said yes 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:46.560 to me. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.280 Well, you know, a source leaked you to so dramatic 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.520 really early on. I don't know if you realized that, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.960 but even before you even started filming, Meghan Monstetto had 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.480 that you know you were going to be on the show. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.840 How hard is it to keep something like this a 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.960 secret from the thirsty universe that is the people behind 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.559 you know, television commentary. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.079 Look, I just didn't take notices. I just didn't talk 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.679 about it. I just didn't. I didn't even comment on it, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.480 like as in like when it got leaked, I was 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.320 like I just pretended that it didn't exist in my life. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.600 Like it was just it's better to just not feed 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.200 the machine. So I'm just like, yeah, if you don't 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:22.840 say anything, nothing can be said. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.439 Well, I think your strength and contribution to the tribe 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.160 was phenomenal. By the way, Like I just personally, I've 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.520 seen you fall down a flight of stairs accidentally, so 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.320 I know you have not do you have not? Uh 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.320 the security footage of that, by the way, which I 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.640 still have on my phone. It's about ten years ago, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.120 But I will say it's so phenomenal. How fit you were, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.600 you know to be on this show? How was the 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.280 training overall? And was it as dramatic as it appeared 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:52.800 for the show. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.200 Yeah, it was really really difficult. The challenges were were hard. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.000 I knew that they were going to be hot. I 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.439 injured myself second day or something like that. I tore. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.360 I tore a muscle in my shoulder and I didn't 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.000 even know into my. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.199 Left Oh my gosh. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.200 Yes, I went and got like stance afterwards, and there 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.679 was a tear in my shoulder that I didn't even 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.319 know about because I was just like, no, I'm not leaving, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.800 I'm not getting tested for anything. I want to keep playing. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.480 Watching you, I just thought you were at the You 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.480 were so fit and so able the whole way through, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.600 like just even right to the very end. Your ability 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.760 to win these challenges or participate in these challenges was 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.840 just so amazing to watch. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.520 I thank you. I think it's with the challenges on Survivor, 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.280 it's more about your mental strength and your body. I 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.000 think physically, I feel like I feel like it's just 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.800 how strong can you be? How much? How how much 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.560 do you want it? Because I wanted that sixty K. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.720 Well, you found an idol and you kept it in 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.240 your back pocket, which I felt so nervous about every 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.800 single episode because, as you know, that puts a target 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.000 on your back. Could you have played this idol earlier? 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.160 There was definitely no need earlier. I knew every single 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.599 vote where they were going. I knew all two or 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.640 three that they were in place. I knew exactly what 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.800 was going to happen. The only time that I didn't 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.960 know the votes was yesterday when I got eliminated. That 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.599 I only heard one plan, and I was suspicious a 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.640 little bit because I was like, there's always more than 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.719 one plan. So when I thought I was like, oh, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.480 maybe it is just a straight out vote. That's probably 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.439 because I was the other plan. But I didn't think 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.720 like that. I was like, oh, we're all working together, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.240 we're just doing this, and then we're going to keep 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.480 the idol for the next vote. Very naive, very trusting, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:27.240 very me. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.240 What made you so sure each of those tribal councils 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.600 that you didn't think you were going to go on home? 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.960 A lot of them were very circumstantial. It was who 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.000 we wanted to move forward with, what relationships I had 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.600 in place, And yeah, I know sometimes it's hard to 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.120 trust every single relationship, but you don't really have a choice. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.280 You either trust it or you get paranoid and you 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.600 make dumb moves. But then when you sometimes when you 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.280 don't trust in a relationship and it is a real relationship, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.040 you'd end up losing that person because they're like, well, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.960 you didn't trust me, so why should I. So I 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.400 went in blind with a lot of my relationships. But 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.240 that's that's how I am, which is like, so dumb, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.600 but it's just kind of what Yeah, it's just who 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:09.920 I am. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.679 Why didn't Sam tell you to play the idol last night? 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.160 Like I felt really disappointed for you because I could 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.680 see how much you had invested in that friendship and 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.520 relationship the way you did, you know, But why didn't 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:24.600 she tell you? So? 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.280 Sam, Well, I think what the viewers are forgetting at 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.480 home is Sam not playing her myself. She's playing with 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.160 her husband that go home. They're together, they have a 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.200 child together, they have a mortgage together. Like they are 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.760 playing as one unit. You're not watching that because you 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.760 see two people, but you need to understand that they 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.360 are going to do what is best for them in 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.200 the long run. Yeah, she could have told me, but 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.120 that would have jeopardized possibly her relationship or max relationship 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.680 with the other people that he's already in an alliance with. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.760 So if they think that me not knowing me going 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.720 home is best for them and best for them to win, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.360 it makes total sense. Like and I don't hate her 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.640 for it. I don't feel bad about it. I think 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.319 that it's the smartest move for her if she wants 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.760 to win. They're playing to win. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.560 Well, you walked away from the revelation of your time 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.600 on the show being cut short with such grace and humility. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.280 I don't even know where that kind of humility comes from, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.640 because you took it so well. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:20.120 I think for me, Survivor Is was always a bucket listing, 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.920 But I also did it for myself. I know that 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.080 sounds kind of selfish, but like a lot of the time, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.240 we should be led by how we want to feel. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.959 And I wanted to know that I could do this. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.920 I wanted to play, and I wanted to do everything. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.080 And I feel like I achieved everything. I found the idol. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.800 I got blindsided, I conducted bryandized I want challenges. The 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.840 only thing I didn't do was win. And sometimes it's 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.440 not about winning. Sometimes it's like, am I proud of 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.679 the person that I was throughout this, and I'm like, yeah, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.120 I am, like, like, I made a dumb decision, but 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.160 at least I'm okay with that. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.560 You bought the Ultimate Survivor showbag is how I like 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.559 to think of it. Do you think that there could 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.960 or should have been a twist to save you? As 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.880 I think that you know, you being Gonde's going to 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.480 leave a massive hole in the story line. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.559 I think that twists and things like that are all 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.400 night a lot earlier than on the day that the 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.960 person leaves. I think that there should not never be 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.040 any kind of preferential treatment for anyone, And it doesn't 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.080 matter how big of a hole you may think that 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.160 I leave, There's going to be other people's game plays 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.000 that are going to take over that will be super interesting. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.640 And also I haven't gone. I'm on the jury, Like 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.280 my outfits are absolute fire this season, so just like 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.000 hang out for that? 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.080 What did you get to stick around until the filming ends? Then? Like, 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.480 so you're on the final jury? Does that mean that 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.560 you didn't fly home to Melbourne? Like were you still 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.000 sitting there in the wings for that? 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.600 Yeah? Yeah, I was still there. Where we're at the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.240 jury of Villa so you can watch those of you 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.360 at home can watch that on templay. Yes, yeah, so 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.600 it's a little side show. First episode is me. You'll 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.360 see my first outfit of the night. It's where you 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.240 get to get all glammed and you get to shower 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.560 and you get to eat real food, and then you 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.480 come back and watch them boat each other wrong and 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.000 you're just like, ah, this is fun. I'm full, and 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.160 you're hungry and you're starving. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.600 It sucked in. If Amy had made it to the merge, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.320 do you think that things would have been different for you? 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.640 Obviously, because then I'll have someone that like is one 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.720 hundred percent of my mess. But also she's so cutthroat 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.200 that I reckon if that was like her vote, she 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.920 would have been Liken's going anyway, I'll lead this, You're 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.120 going as you know why, she would actually do it 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:19.840 and get rid of my idol as well. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.000 Oh and then you'd have to go home and you 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.720 know the fight would continue. The title of King Khan 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.680 was almost a little too soon in my mind, considering 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.720 King George last series was so prominent. Do you just 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.800 have to wear these nicknames that you that you're given, Babe? 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.520 I literally wanted to share that said like pig the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.520 patriarchy After how I knew that was my name? Because 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.680 I was like, what is this? I had no idea 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.400 I was King Khan. I did not even have a nickname. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.800 I was like really upset for a while, being like, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.160 no one wants to name me anything fun? Like done 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.240 nothing fun, not realizing that Mark and Chrissy had that 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.000 for my day two. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.960 It's a common nickname for survivor. So again, it's quite 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.360 impressive that you're able to get that. Is there any 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.720 way that you can pick up any hints from the 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.920 producers when they're doing those pieces to camera? I can 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.720 imagine you knowing you as well as I do. You 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.960 have an amazing social game in the real world, like 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.320 you read people unbelievably well. Were you trying to read 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.240 what the producers were saying, or could you try and 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.760 pick up any accidental clues? 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.640 They are so good at their jobs. They are so 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.640 good they wouldn't even acknowledge it. When I gave I 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.600 handed Shaye an idol that was hers that she had found, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.400 and in the interviews, unless I spoke about Shane's idol, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.680 they would not ask me about Shae's idol because they're like, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.680 we don't know what you know. We can't leave you 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.240 on anything. It's all up to you. And I was like, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.800 and that is so different from Master Chef because one 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.920 Master Chef you get questions about things that you're doing. Here, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.800 it's not like it's like we don't know what you're doing, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.640 we don't know what's going on. We don't know just 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.840 in case you ruin gameplay. So they are so great 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.120 at their job. I like the only thing that I 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.400 thought I was strange was when you know, when they 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.120 asked you if you want to use your idol, I 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.560 can ask you if you want to do you know? 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.879 I felt like I went for extra long. I was like, wait, 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.760 did he just leave like a two minute gap? Like? 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.840 And then I was like maybe that was trying to 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.359 make me use But then I'm like, did I just 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.480 think that afterwards because it was like so good? 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.800 No. I think that they knew because the viewers, they 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.840 knew ahead of time that Australia would be watching you 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:25.159 going use the goddamn idol, and I think they needed 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.679 to capture certain looks on your face. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.359 I went through it all. I can't hid anything on 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:33.560 my face. I went through it all. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.280 Well, I really love it, and I have to ask you, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.680 you know, being such a big Survivor fan, being there 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.760