WEBVTT - Leah & Ash - THE BLOCK - Reality-TV contestants 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.720 TV Reload, the podcast Past Deep that Mind. Welcome back 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.200 guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.080 is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.680 all the inside goss on the popular TV shows that 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.920 you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.600 TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.599 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.920 shows get made. So each episode I've been finding guests 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.240 that want to dive just that little bit deeper into 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.920 the shows they're currently making, so that you can hear 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.199 all their exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.639 names in Australian television. I want to thank you for 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.960 downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've found me. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.920 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.240 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.120 On today's podcast, I have House two Queensland's contestants Ash 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.800 and Leah, arguably the most talked about contestants from The 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.800 Block twenty twenty three. This series of The Block, we 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.160 have seen Leah upset Steph in a body corporate, befriend 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.400 and be unfriended by Christy, take Leslie to task over 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.240 her backyard budget, and side with Eliza in a green 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.360 room showdown, all making her one of twenty twenty three's 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.319 most memorable reality TV contestants. Ash hasn't exactly sat back either, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.680 and I think it was nice to see him supporting 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.640 his wife. Plus making a real go of their build, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.679 which I think has had some of the most character 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.000 in terms of styling. This chap will give you everything 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.480 that you could possibly need in terms of unpacking the 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.600 houses and all the contestants, and I think, if anything, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.160 this episode will give you an insight into how to 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.760 survive a reality TV show when you're a tad polarizing. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.039 I will talk about that fallout with House three, Christy 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.880 and Brett, and I'll ask if they regret pulling them 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.199 aside and calling out their behavior. We will then find 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.200 out their biggest regret and which contestant they wish that 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.600 they'd had made more of an effort with during filming, 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.160 and I think that one might surprise you. You will also 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.160 get Ash's prediction on the final auction and some insight 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.760 into who is the most different when it came to 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.880 being on camera. Plus we will get plenty of exclusives 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.360 from behind the scenes of The Block twenty twenty three, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.680 which has its backyard revealed this Sunday on Channel nine, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.280 and you can catch up on nine now if you've 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.840 fallen just that little bit behind. Anyway, guys, let's bring 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.760 Ashon Lea into the podcast, and I really hope you 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.760 enjoy this fascinating and very revealing look at the Block 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.800 for twenty twenty three. How are you both? 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:23.600 Yeah? 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:23.720 Good? 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:24.360 One good? 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.160 Well, that's pretty hectic without the Block, but with kids 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.280 in the business and lost of stuff and the Block 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.440 just back, so it's super heavy. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.600 I kind of believe that that's the truth with you too, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.680 Like I feel like, you know, while you're on the show, 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.520 it was quite dramatic and quite engaging, and I kind 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.320 of feel like you've just picked your life up and 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.240 put it on the show, Like that's just kind of 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:43.839 how your roll. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.520 Oh yeah, we sure every one did that, but we 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.720 thought we were going on a reality show, and you've 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.160 had to sort of, don't know, whatever you feel, you showed, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.800 whatever you thought you said. We honestly thought that that's 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.360 how you do it. But evidently I don't think people 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.880 wanted to do that, but we did. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.760 Leah. I will say to you that you make fantastic 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.760 reality television because you do what a producer wants you 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.680 to do, and you turn up and you unpack your 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.320 bag of shit on television. Whether people love you or 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.400 hate you, it makes for very authentic and compelling viewing. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.240 And so I'm sure the producer, Julian, the executive producer, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:23.840 just loved that you did that. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.480 I mean, yeah, we have heard that a few times 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.360 from all the higher up producers just saying thank you 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.240 so much for turning up and not hiding and not 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.800 putting on a mask. And I think, you know, some 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.600 viewers might get confused with me, but it's because I'm 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.120 taking the viewers on a journey of what is going 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:42.920 on in my head. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.240 If I'm it's like this big evolution of. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:50.360 My thought and then I finally reached my final thought. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.360 But I've had to take you through all of my 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.560 you know, all of the other little bits for that 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.360 I unpacked. So I think, yeah, sometimes people can get 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.720 a bit confused, and that's where they question me. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.920 But I'm one hundred percent authentic. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.880 There's no way I could have done that without being myself. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.600 Is Leah on the Block for twenty twenty three. Is 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.080 that just a day in the life for you? Carefore 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.480 you don't want to end up with a divorce after 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:15.240 say no. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.880 If that didn't break this, nothing will break us. So 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.440 I don't know. We came back and le was why 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.080 did I think my personality would be safe on National TV? 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:23.680 Like? 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:24.320 What? 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.960 And I was like, Maye, you know what. Honestly the 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.000 whole time, I've just been like, who cares? You can 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.240 go right into it, And I think it's probably this 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.320 part of us I reckon harder than actually doing it, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.640 watching it and seeing what people are saying and seeing 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.360 what questions have brought up and that sort of thing. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.880 And so answer your question. Lea was later on there 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.880 and I still love her. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.599 I mean, the general consensus of this series is that 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.520 it's the most drama filled series of the Block that 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.919 we've ever seen. When you have watched the Block before, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.640 and I'm sure you have, and then you apply, do 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.080 you feel like you know what you're getting yourself into? 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.560 Is it one of those situations where you really have 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.599 to do it to understand the pressures and the confinement 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.000 that is created by a show like this To bring 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.520 all of these emotions out of you. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.599 Oh definitely. I mean I think the viewers don't really 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:16.120 get it. It's impossible to accurately show what block experience is. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.600 And I think every season is a different narrative. I mean, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.920 that's progression, right, there's got to be a total spent thing. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.600 This season is very dramatic, and I think it has 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.120 really comes down to the cast. Gosh, we were fiercely 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:36.599 competitive and with fierce competitiveness plus no sleep, not eating, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.239 away from your family, cameras in your face, your sense. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:41.800 I mean, for me, I was. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.640 Stand through overload all the time, Like there's two hundred 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.240 people on site every day. So it was just chaotic, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.440 and that's what comes out in the drama. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:50.320 It is chaotic. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.680 I love asking people what's the most common thing that 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.320 people come up and say to you on the street, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.320 because I remember after a while, people would come up 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.040 to me and say, you know, oh, you're a bit 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.880 of a bitch on that show, and I would just 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.080 look them in the face and say, I dare you 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.200 to do that show? Like I hadn't eaten, I hadn't slept, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.000 I was under so much pressure. I hadn't seen family 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.880 in nearly four months, like you do it, And I'm 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.240 assuming that all of these people that write this stuff 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.120 online couldn't do a day in the block, you know, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.720 So it feels so strange that they feel so compelled 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.640 to write to you or come up to you in 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.919 the street and tell you. What do people say to 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.760 the both of you though? Like, what's the most common 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.600 thing when you're at the shops or someone comes up 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:30.640 and talks to you about the show. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.680 We had a couple at the airport coming home yesterday 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.479 and they were. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:36.640 Just like, we love that. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.360 You guys were just straight to the point. Yeah, and 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.520 then people really like, oh, bring in like parts of 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.480 the show. They're like a lot of people are invested 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.160 in it, and they're like, oh, yeah, that's so many 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:46.960 people there. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.440 How can I afford that? And I'm like exactly, yeah. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.040 But then you've got all other people on the other 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.880 hand saying what are they saying that for? But I 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.440 think probably people like how all we were and they're like, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:57.240 that's how i'd be. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:58.440 I'd just say it. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.040 We honestly get a lot of positive We've only had 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.080 positive interactions in the public that was like we love you, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.719 and so that is really really lovely, and they're the 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.159 real people because hate. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.840 They're out of their house, they're. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.360 Not sitting on a computer just being absolute half brained 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.520 numptyes see people, No. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.520 I will do it there kicking off, we're kicking off. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:21.400 I will go there. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.280 People that who honestly in their right mind watches an 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.480 entertainment show and then feels the need to go and 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.280 say some really disgusting, spiteful, hateful future things. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.280 I mean you, and you're an absolute nobody, one hundred. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.800 Percent ready ready, I was ready one this morning. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.280 This is the problem one sentence this morning with them 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.800 pulled them pools are so ugly? Why would you put 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.080 that in the multimoon all house? Which like whatever? And 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.680 then the next comment was that day beds so expensive? 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.320 Why would you put why would she buy that? This one? 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.320 Here's two hundred dollars Like it's like you've just said 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.880 it's a multimillion or the house and you want to 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.000 put two dred all day Benny. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.600 Yeah, but nothing is adding up nothing. Do not rationalize it, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.360 do not try and make sense of it, you know, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.240 and let them have that. I mean, the show. This 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.400 is the one thing I have to fall back on, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.000 even no one's watching your show, no one comments. So 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.960 I've got friends that have been on reality shows that 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.480 have had no audience and no one's ever said a 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.880 bad word to them in their life. By being on 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.120 one of the number one shows in the country, it 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.480 has such a big audience that of course you're going 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.480 to get a few nutters along the way. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.000 And we're okay with that. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.440 I've got nine friends, right, I don't need anymore. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.000 I haven't any got time to spake to them nine. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.920 So haven't you got to go and play golf with 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.679 them later today? 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.760 Yeah? Well, you know. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.959 The seasons of the block started off with this teas 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.800 that there's going to be queen bees and the status 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.760 of Queen Bee will change all the time. When you 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.560 read stuff like that in the media, what do you 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.480 make of it? You did you think while you were 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.280 filming that there was a queen bee status and did 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.280 it change? 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:54.800 Yeah? 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.840 No, honestly, I was when you film it, you're only 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.760 living in your own context and you're experience. So as 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.240 the show was approaching to be on air, you know, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.440 you do read all this media, and oh, I was 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.400 freaking out. I had no idea of how things were 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.560 going to transpire because you're not really thinking about it 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.280 when you're filming, because it's just living in it and 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.880 you don't know what context they're going to, what they're going. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.720 To portray, and we go so much to the camera, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.959 And when I start that, I would just say ourselves, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.560 there was no moment's where we were. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.560 We never feel what you mean when you give so 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.960 much up though you are being yourself, like you know, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.240 you're being vulnerable. And I think that that's what the 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.520 both of you did, which is probably why you've you know, 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.960 it feels like you've left yourself so open and exposed 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.200 because both of you were extremely vulnerable. I mean, I 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.960 just was watching an episode last night Ashen and you 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.480 were very emotional that that's coming up in the next week, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.480 and I I had, honestly, I had tears in my 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.280 eyes watching it. And that's really a motive television. And 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.160 that's a real gift that you both have to be 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.160 so raw and so honest. I think that's something to 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:02.920 be celebrated. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.439 Thank you, you know what you like? 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.520 Well, watching the other night and Leah was crying and 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:15.839 she was crying herself, crying because. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.840 We lived it and we remember that feeling but it 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:18.440 is in life. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:19.559 But I cry for. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.240 Anyone that's crying on a show. I cry about the news. Honestly, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:28.040 I'm very unmost of the traffic jam Okay, have noticed 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.120 I'm bloody emotional. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.320 Yeah but yeah, look when you just said that episodes 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.640 coming up, I'll probably cry on that because but. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.600 Let me just tell you Australia is going to cry 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.839 with that one. Well. You have to talk about though, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.439 that very early on the relationship that you both had 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.760 with Christy and Brett. You know, it looked like you 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.480 both were having a lot of fun and I really 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.040 enjoyed watching what you would say to each other and 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.280 what you would say about other people. But they got 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.840 a lot of negative feedback. What did you think about 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.360 the reaction that was quite negative to that early friendship 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:58.040 that you both had. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.520 I don't think there's anyone here that works in an 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.520 office or any workplace that you sort of have a 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.960 little work bestie and there are little moments where you 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:12.079 might want to vent about a colleague or something like that. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.680 It's so natural, especially for women, it is really natural. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.440 And to be honest, you never want to be nasty, 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.560 because that's why you're saying it to your bestie because 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.079 you just want to quickly have a quick vent, get 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.079 your emotions out and your thoughts and feelings, and then 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:26.600 move on. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.520 So I just I still I think our friendship. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.440 I thought it resonated with a lot of people, but 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.120 you know, the negativity I suppose they had to pick. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:36.559 Up on it. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:41.560 It's also really dirty watching secret conversations play out, even 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.120 if they are good or bad. This is a reality show, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.240 especially in a documentary style. It's really weird being a 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.239 fly on the wall for conversation. I suppose the negative 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.200 filter on it, but. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:52.840 I think that's why. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.200 It's because we say it's playing a great season, and 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:56.680 I think. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.760 It has in terms of views. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.600 People are like that and they watch other people like 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.760 that and then get invested in it and then want 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:04.520 to know what happens. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.760 Well, they said that, but that's actually really what I do. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:09.440 But I'm going to go online and be like, what 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.320 a bitch. You know. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.360 What I'll say about that is what we see in 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.360 other people that we don't like is usually something that 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.760 we see in ourselves. Those people that are saying that, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.120 you know, they're probably the most savage people with their friends, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.679 and we know that they are because they're willing to 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.760 say that to the world, like they're willing to make 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.480 those comments publicly, so we can only imagine what that 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.040 personality archetype would do behind closed doors with their best friend. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.600 And you read all those tiktoks where it's like, you know, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.120 it's like a face of someone being like a savage 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.080 and they're like, this is me with my best friend, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.240 you know what I mean. Like that stuff is celebrated 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.720 almost on social media. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.400 But christ and I've got a lot of heat for it, 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.600 and everything in the block is so heightened, so your 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.880 thoughts and what you say, I don't know, I think 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.800 it can come out. Really it's so not what Christian 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.480 and I would be like in our real world because 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.680 you're not in a competition in the real world, you 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.360 don't have to and I don't even wan in an 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.160 office space, so I actually don't have colleagues. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:03.760 That annoy me. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.800 But I do think it's very real. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.640 If you take the concept of it. I think it's relatable. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.600 People are just probably failing to see that or wanting 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:13.240 to admit it. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.560 But you know, the tension between Eliza and Christy at 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.920 that point was, you know, the straw that broke the 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.040 camel's back for the two of you. Well, I guess, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.880 in hindsight, do you think that the discussion with House 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:29.320 three was fair when your friendship exploded for the viewers 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:30.000 and for yourselves. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.080 I guess I was only hearing about these things about 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.359 House five, like from Christy. She was very, very passionate 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.320 about them getting extra help and being the whole Channel 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:40.920 nine plants and all of that, and I was like, 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.440 I sort of would listen to it and I'd be like, yeah, 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.880 I can't see it, but I can probably appreciate you 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.800 having that opinion. When it went to that green room, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.640 it was so explosive and it was a real crack, 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.720 and it was very early on in the season, and 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.720 I'm thinking, oh my god, this is going to ruin 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.200 the rest of the season. I think the whole group 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.920 wouldn't even be able to be in the same room 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.920 with each other. It felt very felt, really serious, and 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:13.400 I couldn't understand why Christy and Brett were so angry 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:13.959 about it. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.520 They stood their ground so hard, but they did, and. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.800 Then Eliza was really upset, and I think in the time, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.520 I just felt really uncomfortable. I didn't want things to 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.960 get that serious. I thought things were just being like 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.560 a bit of a joke event, and then when it 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.720 got to that point, it felt uncomfortable for me. In hindsight, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.200 I can one hundred percent appreciate why they did have 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.560 such strong opinions about it. But you don't get to 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.960 see the hindsight. You don't get to live with. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:42.840 A crystal ball. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.360 You don't see things the camera sees so much more 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.120 than what we see with our eyes. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.880 It was Eliza, though, that told you that you needed 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.440 to change your relationship with House three. Was there a 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.960 conversation where she pointed out to you that maybe the 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.520 relationship you're having with Christy was going to affect you 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.880 long term. Was there ever a conversation like that. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.880 The conversation that Eliza had with us was on the 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.360 one on camera where she was starting to say things like, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.640 crew don't want to be in their house with the 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.800 whole trades. You know, they're upsetting trades, and we didn't 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.080 know any of this, and I'm starting to think, my gosh, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.560 there is possibly another side of Christy Brett that I'm 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.240 not seeing, and I feel really stuck in the middle 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.160 of night. We had to just go with what was right, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.080 And at that time I didn't want any conflict with 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.960 the group, so I just thought, Okay, Chrissy, we have 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.040 to just got to settle this down because it's becoming 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.240 a bit too much. But no, there was no warning 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.280 from Eliza about our future, you know. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.520 And then a lot of. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.760 The Christian I break down had a lot to do 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.440 with that night at the Domain Challenge and me being 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.520 in the girl's house and she was very very angry 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.560 about that, and I was like, nah, Cudding, this is 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.720 too far. This is going to ruin the rest of 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.000 our experience. And it probably did either way. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.920 I mean, for Ash though, what did you think, I mean, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.840 christ and Brett did they overreact? Like, as in, how 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.520 did you feel did you think from that moment that 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.920 these two maybe took it a little bit too far? 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:13.320 Yeah? 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.640 Look, I think what got lost in that discussion in 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.760 the kitchen was because they went forward saying that we 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.040 are just shifting all the blame onto that one hundred 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.280 percent wasn't there, and it didn't and we didn't even 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:24.680 stay that a cat across on camel like that. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.600 So what we're doing. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.040 Was we were saying, hey, collectively, we don't feel good 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.840 about what's happened. So moving forward, we're just saying that 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.320 we're coming out and going it wasn't it wasn't great 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.360 discussion something that stuff we're talking about, we admit fault. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.280 Do you guys want to as well? 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.040 Yeah, so you're kind saying them, let's put a pin 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.680 in this, like, you know, maybe we should press plaus 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.440 on some of this behavior, But that doesn't mean we 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.160 need to throw the baby out of the bath water. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.320 We could still be mates. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.360 If you want to keep going, you're on your own. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.480 But we suggest let's all try and enjoy the last 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 because it was like five weeks. Point of course, it 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.480 five or four. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.480 Felt still felt like early days. But do you think 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.320 if you had known that that conversation would have blown 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.240 up the way that it did, do you think that 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.960 you could have maybe handled the discussion differently? 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.040 Oh, start or I. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.719 Felt like I was in a spinning vortec. I was 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.679 viraling at this point. I had elias of telling us 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.280 things that we didn't know. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.200 I had my own interaction. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.200 With Christy at the Domain night where she was really 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.640 angry with me and then had no remorse the next day. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.800 So I felt incredibly hurt. It was hard for me. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.880