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Speaker 1: On today's podcast, I have House two Queensland's contestants Ash
Speaker 1: and Leah, arguably the most talked about contestants from The
Speaker 1: Block twenty twenty three. This series of The Block, we
Speaker 1: have seen Leah upset Steph in a body corporate, befriend
Speaker 1: and be unfriended by Christy, take Leslie to task over
Speaker 1: her backyard budget, and side with Eliza in a green
Speaker 1: room showdown, all making her one of twenty twenty three's
Speaker 1: most memorable reality TV contestants. Ash hasn't exactly sat back either,
Speaker 1: and I think it was nice to see him supporting
Speaker 1: his wife. Plus making a real go of their build,
Speaker 1: which I think has had some of the most character
Speaker 1: in terms of styling. This chap will give you everything
Speaker 1: that you could possibly need in terms of unpacking the
Speaker 1: houses and all the contestants, and I think, if anything,
Speaker 1: this episode will give you an insight into how to
Speaker 1: survive a reality TV show when you're a tad polarizing.
Speaker 1: I will talk about that fallout with House three, Christy
Speaker 1: and Brett, and I'll ask if they regret pulling them
Speaker 1: aside and calling out their behavior. We will then find
Speaker 1: out their biggest regret and which contestant they wish that
Speaker 1: they'd had made more of an effort with during filming,
Speaker 1: and I think that one might surprise you. You will also
Speaker 1: get Ash's prediction on the final auction and some insight
Speaker 1: into who is the most different when it came to
Speaker 1: being on camera. Plus we will get plenty of exclusives
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes of The Block twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: which has its backyard revealed this Sunday on Channel nine,
Speaker 1: and you can catch up on nine now if you've
Speaker 1: fallen just that little bit behind. Anyway, guys, let's bring
Speaker 1: Ashon Lea into the podcast, and I really hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy this fascinating and very revealing look at the Block
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three. How are you both?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 4: One good?
Speaker 5: Well, that's pretty hectic without the Block, but with kids
Speaker 5: in the business and lost of stuff and the Block
Speaker 5: just back, so it's super heavy.
Speaker 1: I kind of believe that that's the truth with you too,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, you know, while you're on the show,
Speaker 1: it was quite dramatic and quite engaging, and I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like you've just picked your life up and
Speaker 1: put it on the show, Like that's just kind of
Speaker 1: how your roll.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we sure every one did that, but we
Speaker 3: thought we were going on a reality show, and you've
Speaker 3: had to sort of, don't know, whatever you feel, you showed,
Speaker 3: whatever you thought you said. We honestly thought that that's
Speaker 3: how you do it. But evidently I don't think people
Speaker 3: wanted to do that, but we did.
Speaker 1: Leah. I will say to you that you make fantastic
Speaker 1: reality television because you do what a producer wants you
Speaker 1: to do, and you turn up and you unpack your
Speaker 1: bag of shit on television. Whether people love you or
Speaker 1: hate you, it makes for very authentic and compelling viewing.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure the producer, Julian, the executive producer,
Speaker 1: just loved that you did that.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we have heard that a few times
Speaker 3: from all the higher up producers just saying thank you
Speaker 3: so much for turning up and not hiding and not
Speaker 3: putting on a mask. And I think, you know, some
Speaker 3: viewers might get confused with me, but it's because I'm
Speaker 3: taking the viewers on a journey of what is going
Speaker 3: on in my head.
Speaker 4: If I'm it's like this big evolution of.
Speaker 3: My thought and then I finally reached my final thought.
Speaker 3: But I've had to take you through all of my
Speaker 3: you know, all of the other little bits for that
Speaker 3: I unpacked. So I think, yeah, sometimes people can get
Speaker 3: a bit confused, and that's where they question me.
Speaker 4: But I'm one hundred percent authentic.
Speaker 3: There's no way I could have done that without being myself.
Speaker 1: Is Leah on the Block for twenty twenty three. Is
Speaker 1: that just a day in the life for you? Carefore
Speaker 1: you don't want to end up with a divorce after
Speaker 1: say no.
Speaker 2: If that didn't break this, nothing will break us. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. We came back and le was why
Speaker 2: did I think my personality would be safe on National TV?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: And I was like, Maye, you know what. Honestly the
Speaker 5: whole time, I've just been like, who cares? You can
Speaker 5: go right into it, And I think it's probably this
Speaker 5: part of us I reckon harder than actually doing it,
Speaker 5: watching it and seeing what people are saying and seeing
Speaker 5: what questions have brought up and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: And so answer your question. Lea was later on there
Speaker 5: and I still love her.
Speaker 1: I mean, the general consensus of this series is that
Speaker 1: it's the most drama filled series of the Block that
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. When you have watched the Block before,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have, and then you apply, do
Speaker 1: you feel like you know what you're getting yourself into?
Speaker 1: Is it one of those situations where you really have
Speaker 1: to do it to understand the pressures and the confinement
Speaker 1: that is created by a show like this To bring
Speaker 1: all of these emotions out of you.
Speaker 3: Oh definitely. I mean I think the viewers don't really
Speaker 3: get it. It's impossible to accurately show what block experience is.
Speaker 3: And I think every season is a different narrative. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's progression, right, there's got to be a total spent thing.
Speaker 3: This season is very dramatic, and I think it has
Speaker 3: really comes down to the cast. Gosh, we were fiercely
Speaker 3: competitive and with fierce competitiveness plus no sleep, not eating,
Speaker 3: away from your family, cameras in your face, your sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I was.
Speaker 3: Stand through overload all the time, Like there's two hundred
Speaker 3: people on site every day. So it was just chaotic,
Speaker 3: and that's what comes out in the drama.
Speaker 4: It is chaotic.
Speaker 1: I love asking people what's the most common thing that
Speaker 1: people come up and say to you on the street,
Speaker 1: because I remember after a while, people would come up
Speaker 1: to me and say, you know, oh, you're a bit
Speaker 1: of a bitch on that show, and I would just
Speaker 1: look them in the face and say, I dare you
Speaker 1: to do that show? Like I hadn't eaten, I hadn't slept,
Speaker 1: I was under so much pressure. I hadn't seen family
Speaker 1: in nearly four months, like you do it, And I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that all of these people that write this stuff
Speaker 1: online couldn't do a day in the block, you know,
Speaker 1: So it feels so strange that they feel so compelled
Speaker 1: to write to you or come up to you in
Speaker 1: the street and tell you. What do people say to
Speaker 1: the both of you though? Like, what's the most common
Speaker 1: thing when you're at the shops or someone comes up
Speaker 1: and talks to you about the show.
Speaker 5: We had a couple at the airport coming home yesterday
Speaker 5: and they were.
Speaker 2: Just like, we love that.
Speaker 5: You guys were just straight to the point. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: then people really like, oh, bring in like parts of
Speaker 5: the show. They're like a lot of people are invested
Speaker 5: in it, and they're like, oh, yeah, that's so many
Speaker 5: people there.
Speaker 2: How can I afford that? And I'm like exactly, yeah.
Speaker 5: But then you've got all other people on the other
Speaker 5: hand saying what are they saying that for? But I
Speaker 5: think probably people like how all we were and they're like,
Speaker 5: that's how i'd be.
Speaker 2: I'd just say it.
Speaker 3: We honestly get a lot of positive We've only had
Speaker 3: positive interactions in the public that was like we love you,
Speaker 3: and so that is really really lovely, and they're the
Speaker 3: real people because hate.
Speaker 4: They're out of their house, they're.
Speaker 3: Not sitting on a computer just being absolute half brained
Speaker 3: numptyes see people, No.
Speaker 2: I will do it there kicking off, we're kicking off.
Speaker 4: I will go there.
Speaker 3: People that who honestly in their right mind watches an
Speaker 3: entertainment show and then feels the need to go and
Speaker 3: say some really disgusting, spiteful, hateful future things.
Speaker 4: I mean you, and you're an absolute nobody, one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent ready ready, I was ready one this morning.
Speaker 5: This is the problem one sentence this morning with them
Speaker 5: pulled them pools are so ugly? Why would you put
Speaker 5: that in the multimoon all house? Which like whatever? And
Speaker 5: then the next comment was that day beds so expensive?
Speaker 2: Why would you put why would she buy that? This one?
Speaker 5: Here's two hundred dollars Like it's like you've just said
Speaker 5: it's a multimillion or the house and you want to
Speaker 5: put two dred all day Benny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but nothing is adding up nothing. Do not rationalize it,
Speaker 1: do not try and make sense of it, you know,
Speaker 1: and let them have that. I mean, the show. This
Speaker 1: is the one thing I have to fall back on,
Speaker 1: even no one's watching your show, no one comments. So
Speaker 1: I've got friends that have been on reality shows that
Speaker 1: have had no audience and no one's ever said a
Speaker 1: bad word to them in their life. By being on
Speaker 1: one of the number one shows in the country, it
Speaker 1: has such a big audience that of course you're going
Speaker 1: to get a few nutters along the way.
Speaker 2: And we're okay with that.
Speaker 5: I've got nine friends, right, I don't need anymore.
Speaker 2: I haven't any got time to spake to them nine.
Speaker 1: So haven't you got to go and play golf with
Speaker 1: them later today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, you know.
Speaker 1: The seasons of the block started off with this teas
Speaker 1: that there's going to be queen bees and the status
Speaker 1: of Queen Bee will change all the time. When you
Speaker 1: read stuff like that in the media, what do you
Speaker 1: make of it? You did you think while you were
Speaker 1: filming that there was a queen bee status and did
Speaker 1: it change?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, honestly, I was when you film it, you're only
Speaker 3: living in your own context and you're experience. So as
Speaker 3: the show was approaching to be on air, you know,
Speaker 3: you do read all this media, and oh, I was
Speaker 3: freaking out. I had no idea of how things were
Speaker 3: going to transpire because you're not really thinking about it
Speaker 3: when you're filming, because it's just living in it and
Speaker 3: you don't know what context they're going to, what they're going.
Speaker 5: To portray, and we go so much to the camera,
Speaker 5: And when I start that, I would just say ourselves,
Speaker 5: there was no moment's where we were.
Speaker 1: We never feel what you mean when you give so
Speaker 1: much up though you are being yourself, like you know,
Speaker 1: you're being vulnerable. And I think that that's what the
Speaker 1: both of you did, which is probably why you've you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like you've left yourself so open and exposed
Speaker 1: because both of you were extremely vulnerable. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just was watching an episode last night Ashen and you
Speaker 1: were very emotional that that's coming up in the next week,
Speaker 1: and I I had, honestly, I had tears in my
Speaker 1: eyes watching it. And that's really a motive television. And
Speaker 1: that's a real gift that you both have to be
Speaker 1: so raw and so honest. I think that's something to
Speaker 1: be celebrated.
Speaker 2: Thank you, you know what you like?
Speaker 5: Well, watching the other night and Leah was crying and
Speaker 5: she was crying herself, crying because.
Speaker 2: We lived it and we remember that feeling but it
Speaker 2: is in life.
Speaker 4: But I cry for.
Speaker 3: Anyone that's crying on a show. I cry about the news. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I'm very unmost of the traffic jam Okay, have noticed
Speaker 3: I'm bloody emotional.
Speaker 5: Yeah but yeah, look when you just said that episodes
Speaker 5: coming up, I'll probably cry on that because but.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you Australia is going to cry
Speaker 1: with that one. Well. You have to talk about though,
Speaker 1: that very early on the relationship that you both had
Speaker 1: with Christy and Brett. You know, it looked like you
Speaker 1: both were having a lot of fun and I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching what you would say to each other and
Speaker 1: what you would say about other people. But they got
Speaker 1: a lot of negative feedback. What did you think about
Speaker 1: the reaction that was quite negative to that early friendship
Speaker 1: that you both had.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone here that works in an
Speaker 3: office or any workplace that you sort of have a
Speaker 3: little work bestie and there are little moments where you
Speaker 3: might want to vent about a colleague or something like that.
Speaker 3: It's so natural, especially for women, it is really natural.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, you never want to be nasty,
Speaker 3: because that's why you're saying it to your bestie because
Speaker 3: you just want to quickly have a quick vent, get
Speaker 3: your emotions out and your thoughts and feelings, and then
Speaker 3: move on.
Speaker 4: So I just I still I think our friendship.
Speaker 3: I thought it resonated with a lot of people, but
Speaker 3: you know, the negativity I suppose they had to pick.
Speaker 4: Up on it.
Speaker 3: It's also really dirty watching secret conversations play out, even
Speaker 3: if they are good or bad. This is a reality show,
Speaker 3: especially in a documentary style. It's really weird being a
Speaker 3: fly on the wall for conversation. I suppose the negative
Speaker 3: filter on it, but.
Speaker 2: I think that's why.
Speaker 5: It's because we say it's playing a great season, and
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 2: It has in terms of views.
Speaker 5: People are like that and they watch other people like
Speaker 5: that and then get invested in it and then want
Speaker 5: to know what happens.
Speaker 2: Well, they said that, but that's actually really what I do.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to go online and be like, what
Speaker 2: a bitch. You know.
Speaker 1: What I'll say about that is what we see in
Speaker 1: other people that we don't like is usually something that
Speaker 1: we see in ourselves. Those people that are saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, they're probably the most savage people with their friends,
Speaker 1: and we know that they are because they're willing to
Speaker 1: say that to the world, like they're willing to make
Speaker 1: those comments publicly, so we can only imagine what that
Speaker 1: personality archetype would do behind closed doors with their best friend.
Speaker 1: And you read all those tiktoks where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a face of someone being like a savage
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is me with my best friend,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that stuff is celebrated
Speaker 1: almost on social media.
Speaker 3: But christ and I've got a lot of heat for it,
Speaker 3: and everything in the block is so heightened, so your
Speaker 3: thoughts and what you say, I don't know, I think
Speaker 3: it can come out. Really it's so not what Christian
Speaker 3: and I would be like in our real world because
Speaker 3: you're not in a competition in the real world, you
Speaker 3: don't have to and I don't even wan in an
Speaker 3: office space, so I actually don't have colleagues.
Speaker 1: That annoy me.
Speaker 4: But I do think it's very real.
Speaker 3: If you take the concept of it. I think it's relatable.
Speaker 3: People are just probably failing to see that or wanting
Speaker 3: to admit it.
Speaker 1: But you know, the tension between Eliza and Christy at
Speaker 1: that point was, you know, the straw that broke the
Speaker 1: camel's back for the two of you. Well, I guess,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, do you think that the discussion with House
Speaker 1: three was fair when your friendship exploded for the viewers
Speaker 1: and for yourselves.
Speaker 3: I guess I was only hearing about these things about
Speaker 3: House five, like from Christy. She was very, very passionate
Speaker 3: about them getting extra help and being the whole Channel
Speaker 3: nine plants and all of that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I sort of would listen to it and I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't see it, but I can probably appreciate you
Speaker 3: having that opinion. When it went to that green room,
Speaker 3: it was so explosive and it was a real crack,
Speaker 3: and it was very early on in the season, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh my god, this is going to ruin
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. I think the whole group
Speaker 3: wouldn't even be able to be in the same room
Speaker 3: with each other. It felt very felt, really serious, and
Speaker 3: I couldn't understand why Christy and Brett were so angry
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: They stood their ground so hard, but they did, and.
Speaker 3: Then Eliza was really upset, and I think in the time,
Speaker 3: I just felt really uncomfortable. I didn't want things to
Speaker 3: get that serious. I thought things were just being like
Speaker 3: a bit of a joke event, and then when it
Speaker 3: got to that point, it felt uncomfortable for me. In hindsight,
Speaker 3: I can one hundred percent appreciate why they did have
Speaker 3: such strong opinions about it. But you don't get to
Speaker 3: see the hindsight. You don't get to live with.
Speaker 4: A crystal ball.
Speaker 3: You don't see things the camera sees so much more
Speaker 3: than what we see with our eyes.
Speaker 1: It was Eliza, though, that told you that you needed
Speaker 1: to change your relationship with House three. Was there a
Speaker 1: conversation where she pointed out to you that maybe the
Speaker 1: relationship you're having with Christy was going to affect you
Speaker 1: long term. Was there ever a conversation like that.
Speaker 3: The conversation that Eliza had with us was on the
Speaker 3: one on camera where she was starting to say things like,
Speaker 3: crew don't want to be in their house with the
Speaker 3: whole trades. You know, they're upsetting trades, and we didn't
Speaker 3: know any of this, and I'm starting to think, my gosh,
Speaker 3: there is possibly another side of Christy Brett that I'm
Speaker 3: not seeing, and I feel really stuck in the middle
Speaker 3: of night. We had to just go with what was right,
Speaker 3: And at that time I didn't want any conflict with
Speaker 3: the group, so I just thought, Okay, Chrissy, we have
Speaker 3: to just got to settle this down because it's becoming
Speaker 3: a bit too much. But no, there was no warning
Speaker 3: from Eliza about our future, you know.
Speaker 4: And then a lot of.
Speaker 3: The Christian I break down had a lot to do
Speaker 3: with that night at the Domain Challenge and me being
Speaker 3: in the girl's house and she was very very angry
Speaker 3: about that, and I was like, nah, Cudding, this is
Speaker 3: too far. This is going to ruin the rest of
Speaker 3: our experience. And it probably did either way.
Speaker 1: I mean, for Ash though, what did you think, I mean,
Speaker 1: christ and Brett did they overreact? Like, as in, how
Speaker 1: did you feel did you think from that moment that
Speaker 1: these two maybe took it a little bit too far?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Look, I think what got lost in that discussion in
Speaker 5: the kitchen was because they went forward saying that we
Speaker 5: are just shifting all the blame onto that one hundred
Speaker 5: percent wasn't there, and it didn't and we didn't even
Speaker 5: stay that a cat across on camel like that.
Speaker 2: So what we're doing.
Speaker 5: Was we were saying, hey, collectively, we don't feel good
Speaker 5: about what's happened. So moving forward, we're just saying that
Speaker 5: we're coming out and going it wasn't it wasn't great
Speaker 5: discussion something that stuff we're talking about, we admit fault.
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to as well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're kind saying them, let's put a pin
Speaker 1: in this, like, you know, maybe we should press plaus
Speaker 1: on some of this behavior, But that doesn't mean we
Speaker 1: need to throw the baby out of the bath water.
Speaker 1: We could still be mates.
Speaker 2: If you want to keep going, you're on your own.
Speaker 2: But we suggest let's all try and enjoy the last
Speaker 2: because it was like five weeks. Point of course, it
Speaker 2: five or four.
Speaker 1: Felt still felt like early days. But do you think
Speaker 1: if you had known that that conversation would have blown
Speaker 1: up the way that it did, do you think that
Speaker 1: you could have maybe handled the discussion differently?
Speaker 4: Oh, start or I.
Speaker 3: Felt like I was in a spinning vortec. I was
Speaker 3: viraling at this point. I had elias of telling us
Speaker 3: things that we didn't know.
Speaker 4: I had my own interaction.
Speaker 3: With Christy at the Domain night where she was really
Speaker 3: angry with me and then had no remorse the next day.
Speaker 4: So I felt incredibly hurt. It was hard for me.
Speaker 3: I was in a really confused state, and I think
Speaker 3: I even said one of the producers as in an interview,
Speaker 3: it's just going to be bad no matter what.
Speaker 5: There was chat that why do we do it on
Speaker 5: camera and things like that, but you've been on you've
Speaker 5: been on shot. Yeah, okay, scenario didn't happen on camera.
Speaker 5: The next day, everything's different. Hey, what's happened with you guys?
Speaker 5: It's going to come out anyway. So we were sort of.
Speaker 3: Like, well, I don't think Christy and Brett realized how
Speaker 3: much we were taking looking to in our interviews the
Speaker 3: days leading up to that discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think if they realized that, then
Speaker 3: they would have understood, Oh, producers were following this story.
Speaker 3: They were they weren't letting us out of their site.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I think it's fair to say that
Speaker 1: they were cooking that story as well. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, if you're a good producer and
Speaker 1: you can hear that there is some authentic conflict that's
Speaker 1: about to happen, you're setting up cameras and you're making
Speaker 1: sure you capture the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like it was just we never ever went
Speaker 3: through A producer was like, we're about to do this.
Speaker 4: I was just followed.
Speaker 3: They could hear my microphone when I was in the
Speaker 3: toilet talking or when I was on the phone talking,
Speaker 3: so they were following me no matter what those days
Speaker 3: leading up, I wasn't out of their site.
Speaker 4: And that's not.
Speaker 3: A choice of mine. I signed a contract to be
Speaker 3: on a reality show. I couldn't then say hey, can
Speaker 3: you give me space?
Speaker 1: Do you know what's funny? I will jump in there,
Speaker 1: Leair and say to you. I think it kind of
Speaker 1: looks that way because there's plenty of times where you
Speaker 1: do have conflict with people and just before it starts,
Speaker 1: you do kind of like look around at the cameras.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why people felt like maybe you
Speaker 1: were bringing the cameras over to it where it's interesting
Speaker 1: with other contestants when conflict was about to happen, you
Speaker 1: didn't see that, But I don't know, did you notice
Speaker 1: that that Sometimes when there's conflict about to happen, you
Speaker 1: see you kind of walk over and you go, oh, yeah, Leo.
Speaker 5: At one point I went to chat to Leslie about
Speaker 5: something and Leslie was like, it's probably we obviously able
Speaker 5: to say anymore. But Lea was, Hey, I want to
Speaker 5: have a chat to you, and Leslie was like, there's
Speaker 5: four cameras on us.
Speaker 2: And Leo was like, yeah, I know always there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on reality television.
Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, well, it was probably me
Speaker 4: looking around. I mean, I think there is a lot
Speaker 4: going on. It's like there's there's two hundred people going
Speaker 4: around as deliveries.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I I absolutely never consciously looked
Speaker 3: at camerat.
Speaker 2: I do look around my.
Speaker 4: Eyes always, even now I'm like looking outside.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and they've probably just captured all those
Speaker 3: little facial expressions as they do.
Speaker 1: I just think that when it gets made into a movie,
Speaker 1: Ashaketty needs to play. That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: I love that some moments in the show where I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's an Ashaketty moment. Yeah, Anina proud
Speaker 1: moment from Offspring. I was going to say, though, the
Speaker 1: length that Christy goes to, though, is very unapologetically savage
Speaker 1: throughout the series, and it kind of is so weird
Speaker 1: because you guys aren't going back together to try and
Speaker 1: sort it out. You both just keep building your houses.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about now watching it back and
Speaker 1: seeing some of the sabotages that's been put in place.
Speaker 4: I mean, nothing has shocked us through it.
Speaker 2: Some people are saying that that was all fake and
Speaker 2: we just played that well our argument and like the
Speaker 2: fighting that we did, Like there's people on last night.
Speaker 5: I sat fact that this is not that up, like dude,
Speaker 5: that was did you see man CHRISTI fire?
Speaker 4: No, nothing has shocked me with like watching it back.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think because I saw a lot of her savageness,
Speaker 3: like in my own conflicts with her, so I knew
Speaker 3: that we were.
Speaker 4: Both just incredibly upset.
Speaker 3: I think I showed a more vulnerable side of our conflict.
Speaker 3: I think deep down she was also equally upset, but
Speaker 3: she just had the thrill strong mask on and yeah,
Speaker 3: just went to the revenge style.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as that cold shoulder that you
Speaker 1: know you both got was you know, you know, when
Speaker 1: someone makes you feel invisible, sometimes that can be harder,
Speaker 1: that harder to deal with than words than someone coming
Speaker 1: for you. Like, how did you feel when House three
Speaker 1: started to block you guys out hittering that it had
Speaker 1: been such a dramatic fall from grace from where the
Speaker 1: friendship was, where you're both sleeping in the same room together.
Speaker 5: Like I said, you can see from that argument we had, right,
Speaker 5: I was like, you look, you know, I was saying,
Speaker 5: he looks for alsoight glass. And then when I hung
Speaker 5: back and had a discussion with him after, like Brett
Speaker 5: stood beside because Brett's like, I on him to work
Speaker 5: it out, and you know, I was like, I don't.
Speaker 5: This is my last this is my last little rope
Speaker 5: that I'm crying out. And I'm not saying that I'm
Speaker 5: in charge of anything, but I'm just saying, if you
Speaker 5: want to try and finish the rest of this and
Speaker 5: have some kind of like hey, just amicable a little bit.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying, oh, you come and hang out and
Speaker 5: let's leave him the same house together and eat dinner together.
Speaker 5: And I'm just saying because I'm okay, I can not
Speaker 5: like you as well, but I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not me yeah, not like that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, mate, haymate to everyone, Like I literally
Speaker 5: spoke to every single person on that whole work site trading.
Speaker 5: So one point we a geting that is that was
Speaker 5: me saying, let's go forward and be friends and chat,
Speaker 5: not friends, like just be amicable.
Speaker 1: Like yeah.
Speaker 3: And the thing that annoyed me the most is they
Speaker 3: were so incredibly angry with House five, with the girls,
Speaker 3: and yet they made up and moved on and were
Speaker 3: all happy together. And I was like, why why can't
Speaker 3: we do the same, Like, why can't we.
Speaker 4: Just that kitchen conversation?
Speaker 3: It was very difficult, very very difficult, like we were.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been the one and only conversation that
Speaker 3: we had. I would have hoped that we would have
Speaker 3: come together that you know, that afternoon and and sort
Speaker 3: of worked on it a little bit more, and she
Speaker 3: just never allowed that to happen.
Speaker 4: And it was very difficult.
Speaker 1: She obviously was very hurt, and then to get you
Speaker 1: to lead to understand the level of hurt that I
Speaker 1: think that she was feeling. I think she tried to
Speaker 1: get you to feel the burn, which I think happens
Speaker 1: in the real world. Like I think that's what happens
Speaker 1: to all of us. Sometimes we would love to say
Speaker 1: to ourselves, let's just grow up a bit, But I
Speaker 1: think I think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: fear and being uncomfortable. Then we we do that.
Speaker 4: And also a very stressful situation.
Speaker 3: And I feel like if we were not in the block,
Speaker 3: just none of the well, obviously none of it would
Speaker 3: have happened, but I think how we would have dealt
Speaker 3: with this agreement would be incredibly different to how we
Speaker 3: dealt with it on the block.
Speaker 1: But Lee, I want you to unpack something with me,
Speaker 1: because what I thought was really interesting was the comments
Speaker 1: online saying that with you, that your change of heart
Speaker 1: wasn't real. They doubted your change of heart, and they
Speaker 1: questioned whether or not your change of heart was to
Speaker 1: win people over in the other houses. You know that
Speaker 1: maybe if you call these people out, then your friendship
Speaker 1: with them would strengthen. Did you think that would be
Speaker 1: the case once that confrontation had happened. Did it make
Speaker 1: it easier for you to have friendships with House one
Speaker 1: and House Vibe and House four?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting comment because the viewers only see
Speaker 3: what you know, what have shown. We had a really
Speaker 3: great relationship with the girls from day one, and that
Speaker 3: never was shown. And that's why the green room was
Speaker 3: hard for me because I was like, I'm friends with
Speaker 3: House three, but we're also really friends with House five,
Speaker 3: like we would chat with our kids, FaceTime them, go
Speaker 3: to them most nights, and visit. So being friends with
Speaker 3: the others was never a goal of mine.
Speaker 4: It just wasn't.
Speaker 3: It came down to what was right and what was wrong.
Speaker 3: We were all for having fun. Once that fun turned
Speaker 3: really yucky and murky and dirty, almost we're not having
Speaker 3: fun anymore.
Speaker 4: And that's when we had to just ash and I.
Speaker 3: Were like, oh God, this is so not a representation
Speaker 3: of how we would be in the normal world going
Speaker 3: to when I say it's going to that level of
Speaker 3: Channel nine plants.
Speaker 4: You know, the anger in it was just it was
Speaker 4: uncomfortable for us.
Speaker 1: For me, I know, people who are a bit shit stirrs,
Speaker 1: like a bit of that sort of sense of humor,
Speaker 1: so I think that there was a bit of their
Speaker 1: usual banter. But when it's put on television like that,
Speaker 1: or when the stakes are as high as that, maybe
Speaker 1: it's not appropriate, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the master interviews, the private seats, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And because we were like so close, behave, so were
Speaker 3: the other three houses.
Speaker 4: I just want to cause that for a second, because
Speaker 4: it annoyed me so much that everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 4: they've got a little click, they've got to click. Hey,
Speaker 4: new flash go to you.
Speaker 1: Guys in any other season or in the editing suite.
Speaker 1: What happens in shows sometimes is they play those sorts
Speaker 1: of friendships as the cool group, and you know, with
Speaker 1: the magic of the editing of that, they could have
Speaker 1: made that look more sinister than it is.
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, the other contestants would not be able
Speaker 5: to handle the hate that has been thrown our way.
Speaker 1: How would they cope? How do you think the girls
Speaker 1: would cope if they were experiencing the amount of backlash
Speaker 1: that you guys have had.
Speaker 3: You know, they just and I'm being so honest here,
Speaker 3: and they would not cope. And I don't think the
Speaker 3: others realize how easy this could be them. And I
Speaker 3: don't think the others realize what yeah, House turn House,
Speaker 3: what we have had to go through.
Speaker 4: And there's been no there's just.
Speaker 5: Been yeah I will I will add and not that
Speaker 5: it's the bad thing, but I mean when the cameras
Speaker 5: were off, it was, yeah, we'd get to a challenge
Speaker 5: and try we'd sort of chat to them before the
Speaker 5: challenges on and yeah, I don't know, it's just same
Speaker 5: like and it's just say like when there was no
Speaker 5: camera there was They didn't really. It was just different man,
Speaker 5: Like you come and shout ass off camera and be
Speaker 5: like this, and then the camera beyond and it'd be
Speaker 5: exactly the side.
Speaker 2: But we didn't. That was off man, understand.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see that. I can see that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I'm I've
Speaker 1: got a podcast about television. I talk about it all
Speaker 1: day every day. And if we went on a podcast
Speaker 1: right now, to be in a dark room talking to
Speaker 1: myself and so I can read through, I can see,
Speaker 1: you know, read through the lines. Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: You can see whatever that's saying is whateveryone is between
Speaker 1: the lines. I can read the lines, and you can
Speaker 1: see a with some of the contestants on this show,
Speaker 1: and then you can see when it is incredibly raw
Speaker 1: when it has been. And I think that you too,
Speaker 1: are probably the most authentic on this show. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there are contestants as well to come close
Speaker 1: to that, but I can definitely see that this is
Speaker 1: just genuinely who you both are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's nice you can recognize that as well,
Speaker 3: because it is hard being vulnerable. We never closed doors
Speaker 3: and whispered I mean, I've seen so many little snippets
Speaker 3: of that with the others and I was like, I damn,
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish we didn't realize that we were
Speaker 3: the only people.
Speaker 2: Not doing that, and that's why there was four cameras
Speaker 2: in our house all the time. It's got to happen.
Speaker 1: It makes good television, you know. Before we move off,
Speaker 1: Eliza A. Liberty, I just want to say, some of
Speaker 1: their opinions that have been said, you know, on radio
Speaker 1: shows and in the media have been quite interesting at times.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they have been a little bit
Speaker 1: too savage or maybe a little bit unaware of what
Speaker 1: everyone else is going through.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They feel like they're really different at the moment a
Speaker 3: post show in the media and in their interviews, I
Speaker 3: was like, that's not who you guys were back in
Speaker 3: the camera, Like, you guys really loved Christie and Brett
Speaker 3: at the end, you know, after that little conflict, they
Speaker 3: sort of moved on and we're accepting of each other.
Speaker 3: And now it's like the tables have really turned and
Speaker 3: it's almost like they're living through the edit and.
Speaker 1: That's what happens. LEA like it's a very clever thing
Speaker 1: that you've worked out there, and that is, this happens
Speaker 1: to a lot of people, and I've seen it many
Speaker 1: times over the years. You lean into the narrative that
Speaker 1: the public has, and that is because you, especially if
Speaker 1: you're getting the fan favorite edit, you can't let that go,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like you need to
Speaker 1: become that version of what's being created for you online
Speaker 1: because it's an addiction. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you're addicted to being the fan favorite kind of thing,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It's upsetting that they're not remembering their own experience with
Speaker 3: us and or with you know, with everyone, and it's
Speaker 3: almost like they sometimes I've seen them word for word
Speaker 3: quote a comment. It's like a hater's comment, and they've
Speaker 3: made it into their own opinion. It is very hurtful,
Speaker 3: and I don't think other people can realize that there's
Speaker 3: a whole another experience that we have to now go through.
Speaker 1: Some people don't ever come back from it. I've known
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say this person's name because it's
Speaker 1: not fair, but I know someone who was on a
Speaker 1: reality series maybe fifteen years ago, and I knew them
Speaker 1: before and I watched them on the show, and then
Speaker 1: they became a version for the rest of their life
Speaker 1: of what the general public thought of them. And that
Speaker 1: is a really hard thing to do to yourself, because
Speaker 1: if you are becoming a version of what you think
Speaker 1: other people see you as, you're not being true to yourself,
Speaker 1: and that must be an incredibly claustrophobic thing to do
Speaker 1: to yourself.
Speaker 3: Maybe in hindsight, some of the others might think, oh,
Speaker 3: if I could have my chance again, maybe I'd be
Speaker 3: more more vulnerable, more open, unpack all those thoughts, because
Speaker 3: we knew that going on this show, we're going to
Speaker 3: show that our raw experience, whether that be good or
Speaker 3: it's very difficult, but we can stand here today and say, no,
Speaker 3: we were ourselves, and that means going on a path
Speaker 3: that we're not proud of. And then it's going on
Speaker 3: a path that we can quickly, you know, rectify and
Speaker 3: come back to ourselves. And then there's also so much growth,
Speaker 3: and we didn't have growth now afterwards, we did it
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 1: If you think about our lives, if you think about
Speaker 1: who we are as people, our mistakes are most of
Speaker 1: the time the things that shape us and not that
Speaker 1: we want to make mistakes, but if we can own
Speaker 1: them and we can learn from them, they are the
Speaker 1: things that made us a better person. So definitely there
Speaker 1: is something in that, you know. And I think that
Speaker 1: if you've seen things on this show that you both
Speaker 1: haven't liked, you can change them if you want to.
Speaker 1: Maybe you like it, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: who is anyone to tell you how to be?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly, And no one is perfect. And I think that's
Speaker 3: such an important reminder for everybody. We've all had flaws,
Speaker 3: we've all got good bits and bad bits, and there
Speaker 3: is also so much more to the ten of us
Speaker 3: as contestants than what you're seeing on the show.
Speaker 1: And I also I love flawed people, flowed people, my
Speaker 1: favorite people. Like, I'm done with hanging out with perfect people.
Speaker 1: They make me feel sad.
Speaker 2: You've got so many problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm drawn to the people that have got the problems.
Speaker 1: Why are you hanging out with that person? I'm like, No,
Speaker 1: they're fascinating. They're an interesting person. I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have to quickly move on to Steph and just say,
Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting with her at the start.
Speaker 1: She was really hard to read. I found as a viewer,
Speaker 1: she was hard to read and there was a bit
Speaker 1: of a different way that we saw her for the
Speaker 1: first two weeks. But do you think that she changed
Speaker 1: tactics throughout the series or do you think she just
Speaker 1: relaxed into who she was and how the show was working.
Speaker 1: Because she's no longer getting, you know, the hate that
Speaker 1: she was getting at the start, she's almost very much celebrated.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was because she eased into the
Speaker 1: experience or what do you think happened there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that she eased into it.
Speaker 3: And the thing that is important to note the first
Speaker 3: couple of episodes.
Speaker 4: She was getting a lot of heat in the media.
Speaker 3: I'm sure the same DeBras and Brendas that were commenting
Speaker 3: hateful things about step and our commenting hateful things about us.
Speaker 3: And my experience with Steph is it took me a really,
Speaker 3: it took me a lot longer to see the side
Speaker 3: that everyone else is sort of seeing because we didn't
Speaker 3: get to see the breakdown in their first few episodes.
Speaker 3: We just saw that I'm fine, I'm fine. No, it's not.
Speaker 3: Everything is absolutely chaos at your house. But she really
Speaker 3: put up a bit of a front, and that was
Speaker 3: hard for me to crack because if I can't feel
Speaker 3: like I can get into an authentic relationship, it's hard
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 4: And I put a wall up straight away, and.
Speaker 2: I think that how conversation couldn't go from how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm fine, but you're not to know actually I'm not,
Speaker 5: and then that can be like a sit down and
Speaker 5: you get the nice time of it better and.
Speaker 2: That sort of thing, and yeah, that's what we're sort
Speaker 2: of about.
Speaker 3: Look, so we never got to see that side. It
Speaker 3: took me, you know a long time to get to
Speaker 3: that point with Steph. And I'm so glad I got
Speaker 3: there because I actually really we both really respectful repector talent.
Speaker 5: Steph came in and thought that she had a lot
Speaker 5: of pressure and a lot to prove kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the people online are saying that she's
Speaker 1: being set up as next year's architect. You know that
Speaker 1: there's a bigger picture that's being drawn here. You know,
Speaker 1: some of those pressures as well. Must be really hard
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 5: I understand, but like the style, I think she had
Speaker 5: that pressure. But I've got respect for Steph. I'll like,
Speaker 5: we should do a theories next year, you'd be the architect.
Speaker 5: I'm bit build up.
Speaker 1: I think everyone wants their own spin off of the block.
Speaker 1: I think you know every contestant in the history of time.
Speaker 1: But there's an anniversary season coming up next year, and
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have to just bring you all back. Imagine that,
Speaker 1: put them all together, bring every up. Because Steph started this,
Speaker 1: I heard that this is a rumor that Steph might
Speaker 1: have started. But was there any truth or did it
Speaker 1: hurt your feelings that there was a lot of discussion
Speaker 1: about you were building a house for an airbnb style
Speaker 1: investment and not a home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this.
Speaker 3: Isn't a thing with step She's fiercely competitive, right, and
Speaker 3: sometimes she can say things she probably means well, but
Speaker 3: they can come off really condescending if you don't know her.
Speaker 3: And that's the position I was in. I didn't know
Speaker 3: her very well. I didn't know her like the viewers did.
Speaker 3: Is there any little remark they this were coming off
Speaker 3: too condescending for me, and I took them as big insults.
Speaker 3: But our house were we just came back. We lived
Speaker 3: in there for the last five days and it's a home.
Speaker 3: It is definitely a home. So yeah, some of the
Speaker 3: things and be hurtful.
Speaker 1: Isn't a bad thing if that's an airbnbound booking it, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad people exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: I just was curious as to whether or not some
Speaker 1: of those things.
Speaker 3: Maybe possibly it was a calculating common in a competition.
Speaker 4: It's do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like it really could have been well thought out, that comment,
Speaker 3: because yeah, viewers have really grabbed onto it.
Speaker 1: They really have. Well, we have to finish with the
Speaker 1: biggest storyline at the moment, and I've saved this till now.
Speaker 1: But Leslie and Kyle, the whole friendship's gone pair shape
Speaker 1: with you both wanting to audit their backyard. Did the
Speaker 1: producers somehow suggest or make it seem like a good idea?
Speaker 1: Like how did that come about? That you had seen
Speaker 1: all those people there and you took it upon yourselves
Speaker 1: to go and ask for an audit or ask for
Speaker 1: an explanation.
Speaker 3: Everyone was talking about it. We were definitely not the
Speaker 3: only ones asking questions.
Speaker 4: I know that, you know, they can only show so much.
Speaker 4: Everyone was talking behind kylel Leslie's backs.
Speaker 3: We sort of, you know, I asked you a little
Speaker 3: bit in a cafe I know everyone else was asking,
Speaker 3: Leslie was not giving any clear answers, so it was
Speaker 3: creating more confusion. I actually did go to the producers
Speaker 3: and I did say, is there everything fare there? Because
Speaker 3: how do we go about this? It's not nice at
Speaker 3: the end of the competition, you know, take it for
Speaker 3: Steph and Gianno have won over one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: they can legitimately present a very impressive backyard.
Speaker 4: It's not now fair.
Speaker 3: For someone who hasn't won more than one room to
Speaker 3: now present a backyard that might not be so legitimate.
Speaker 3: Dy just said to me, we don't know the answers.
Speaker 3: They're there to really document the whole process, and it's
Speaker 3: encouraged that contestants sort of work out the answers on
Speaker 3: their own. And so that's what we had to do.
Speaker 3: We had to go and ask them. And it wasn't
Speaker 3: an attack on House one personally.
Speaker 4: It really was. I said it so many times, holand
Speaker 4: I think you were so smart to get a quote.
Speaker 3: I think Troy is taking the block advertising for a ride.
Speaker 3: And do you know what that does next year for contestants,
Speaker 3: go find the richest trade who can carry that kind
Speaker 3: of money?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, the assumption would be I mean I would
Speaker 1: have been curious too. I would have been curious because
Speaker 1: I saw all those people there, and I would have
Speaker 1: been thinking, this is an unfair disadvantage. I think it's
Speaker 1: again human nature to want to go over and ask something.
Speaker 1: But like it was clear that you weren't being given
Speaker 1: an answer. So to me, the obvious, you know, the
Speaker 1: obvious thing that was going on here that you were
Speaker 1: calling out is, hey, guys, I think Troy is dumping
Speaker 1: a whole lot of money into this place, and has
Speaker 1: there been an outcome with that? Has Troy maybe even
Speaker 1: suggested that he might have put some of his own
Speaker 1: money into the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were based. I don't want to say too much,
Speaker 3: but basically said, you guys were you guys were on
Speaker 3: the right path there.
Speaker 1: And okay, yeah, I mean but again, fair play to
Speaker 1: Troy as well, Like you know, maybe people are going
Speaker 1: to watch the show and get him, get him to
Speaker 1: do their work, you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 1: is a promotion for him. Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: stipulation that needs to be put in place to stop
Speaker 1: tradesmen coming onto shows like this and dumping their own
Speaker 1: money into it. Do you think that unfair disadvantage needs
Speaker 1: to be called out?
Speaker 2: Look good, Telly, I can't understand.
Speaker 4: It's like he knew it.
Speaker 5: If like watching that wake now, mate, I reckon there'd
Speaker 5: probably be fifty percent of people sitting at home going.
Speaker 2: Man, that is way too many people. Because we broke
Speaker 2: down and it was at a understand and then when
Speaker 2: we went to.
Speaker 5: Troy and his face was kind of didn't really have
Speaker 5: an answer for anything. Who was playing the Tilers, mate, Cursey.
Speaker 5: Our brothers are expensive Tilers. They are that would have
Speaker 5: been five to seven down dollars worthy anyway, So they're
Speaker 5: faced and out, I think, and I think another reason.
Speaker 2: Why we called it was it felt like coming to
Speaker 2: the end of the competition. We had an ime, they
Speaker 2: had an ime, so it was going to be between
Speaker 2: one of us and them, and possibly someone else coming
Speaker 2: in had more money, which we thought Stephan gentleman.
Speaker 3: But also the other thing is we we came on
Speaker 3: the block because it's a competition and we love competition
Speaker 3: as long as it's fair.
Speaker 4: It had to be fair all the time. That's why
Speaker 4: the body corporate.
Speaker 3: Was Steph Hey, that was that was not an attack
Speaker 3: there was no consequences for that. It was just like, guys,
Speaker 3: is everyone aware of the rules because I'm not interested
Speaker 3: said in a dirty competition, I'm not into it.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that watched the
Speaker 1: show though that, and I was watching this the other
Speaker 1: night and then reading about it online. I really appreciated
Speaker 1: you saying it's very Australian to say make a deal
Speaker 1: and have a handshake and have that be in like
Speaker 1: that's a very ausy thing. You know, if you've made
Speaker 1: a deal, shake your hand. You can't back back down
Speaker 1: on that. Where I don't know if they see it
Speaker 1: that way. Maybe in wa a handshake doesn't mean as much,
Speaker 1: you know board.
Speaker 2: Well you know what people sound, They're like, I didn't
Speaker 2: actually see them shake hands.
Speaker 1: No, it's a metaphor, like you don't need no, when
Speaker 1: a deal is done done, a deal is done, it
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a physical handshake your word. I
Speaker 1: think that's what the saying is.
Speaker 3: That it's actually crazy because I've you're very nagged on
Speaker 3: a contract.
Speaker 4: The concept. It's like, I get it. It was furniture.
Speaker 3: My emotions were way too much at that point for furniture,
Speaker 3: but it was it was the moral of it like
Speaker 3: that for that for us.
Speaker 4: Well, it's icky, it's dirty, it doesn't sit right with us.
Speaker 4: And I felt betrayed. I felt shocked.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think that people existed but do that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: I just for the record, we didn't get our freedom back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that them holding them holding back those
Speaker 1: freedom vouchers really fucking irked me. But you know, look
Speaker 1: at that point, I think they were pretty pissed off.
Speaker 1: Lea though, do you know what I will say to you?
Speaker 1: And I think you're going to see this more over
Speaker 1: the next week. I find it quite comical with your
Speaker 1: apologies because you do go and apologize to people a
Speaker 1: few times in this show, and when you're apologizing, you
Speaker 1: actually go back and list all the list all the
Speaker 1: things basically that you've still got a problem with. So like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to go and apologize to someone, you
Speaker 1: could say I'm sorry and you own it and then
Speaker 1: walk away, but you're kind of like I I find
Speaker 1: it's so funny and be like, I'm really sorry, Leslie.
Speaker 1: You know I really shouldn't have done that. But why
Speaker 1: have you got all those tradings there? Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? If you're either going to apologize and
Speaker 1: say that you're sorry and put it all behind you,
Speaker 1: instead you're bringing up all the things. Do you re
Speaker 1: ignite in the argument?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even get apologies in his house.
Speaker 4: I think it was more.
Speaker 3: Because I think she's still quite confused as to why
Speaker 3: we were questioning in it, questioning it, and I was like, look,
Speaker 3: I am really sorry that you took it personally. I
Speaker 3: was sorry that she took it personally.
Speaker 2: But should have.
Speaker 1: Really Ash is the right person to answer this stuff
Speaker 1: because he's probably had this before in his life. You know,
Speaker 1: really sorry, I shouldn't have done that. But here's a
Speaker 1: dorseer as to why I did it. You know, I
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 2: But you kissed me off? No will that.
Speaker 3: I think it's because I was in two that there
Speaker 3: was two roads for that one. Sorry that you took
Speaker 3: it personally wasn't my intention, But I don't regret. We
Speaker 3: really don't regret regret bringing it up, and that's probably
Speaker 3: what I'm not sorry for. So that was I had
Speaker 3: to sorry because I felt like she took it personally
Speaker 3: and that makes me feel bad.
Speaker 5: And I think it was sorry that it's seem like
Speaker 5: it was getting targeted at you, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't like it was right.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to have so many people well and
Speaker 3: really confused about that.
Speaker 1: I just love it. I love it. And the rumors
Speaker 1: are that you know that, Leah, that you do have
Speaker 1: a very compelling end of this series. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people are saying. Is there a
Speaker 1: way in which you want audiences to feel about you
Speaker 1: when this show finishes with all of this, We've just
Speaker 1: talked about all of the other houses, We've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about raw emotion, But how do you want Australian
Speaker 1: audiences to finish their relationship with you?
Speaker 3: Well, I just want them to know that there's they've
Speaker 3: seen a really condensed version of me. And I own
Speaker 3: that I am very strong, very opinionated, I'm outspoken, loud,
Speaker 3: all of that, but there are so many other bits
Speaker 3: of me and I think people have seen parts of it,
Speaker 3: and I want people to know that that's really who
Speaker 3: I am. I am so much more open minded and
Speaker 3: accepting and although I don't live my life in a competition,
Speaker 3: and it's a shame that I would have loved for
Speaker 3: people to see more of really who I rather than
Speaker 3: that the we call people out one hundred percent. We're
Speaker 3: not with shy washy. Like I said the other night,
Speaker 3: we're not with shy washy. If we think something, we're
Speaker 3: going to say it. We don't throw people under the
Speaker 3: bars or anything like that. And there's the viewers have
Speaker 3: really seen a huge journey for us, and maybe they're
Speaker 3: people who are a bit more closed minded won't be
Speaker 3: able to accept it.
Speaker 4: But the people who are open minded.
Speaker 3: May appreciate that journey because it's it's a pretty big one.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be and this is one thing we
Speaker 1: all forget. It's okay to be a good person and
Speaker 1: a bad person at the same time. We can't expect
Speaker 1: ourselves to be this version that's palatable and celebrated by everybody.
Speaker 1: All the time. We make mistakes and we do silly things,
Speaker 1: and that's human. I don't think you should apologize for it.
Speaker 1: Does anyone really know who they are?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Does anyone really know like this profile of who they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I think we're all confused a lot
Speaker 1: of the time. We're all going through this life trying
Speaker 1: to do the best job that we can. And I
Speaker 1: think you should be fair. I think you should be
Speaker 1: kind to yourself on that.
Speaker 2: One of the questions, right, and then the exit thing
Speaker 2: was do you regret anything?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, he doesn't, no honestly, and
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if it comes out. My
Speaker 3: biggest regret was that I didn't get to know step
Speaker 3: quick enough, because that was my biggest that was everything.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm happy with that journey, but I think, yes,
Speaker 3: Steph and I got off on a really really wrong
Speaker 3: foot both ways, by the way, so that was one
Speaker 3: of my biggest regrets. But the other, you know, the
Speaker 3: block is the very first time we've ever experienced the block,
Speaker 3: and sometimes when you're experiencing things for the very first time,
Speaker 3: it's hard to find your feet.
Speaker 1: I just have to say to people when they come
Speaker 1: off reality shows, if you right it all the wrongs
Speaker 1: that you made throughout the show, and you could go
Speaker 1: back in time man alive, that would have been in
Speaker 1: a boring show.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you behaved awesomely the whole way through. Buying Australia
Speaker 1: will turn that shit off faster than you can believe.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I've run out of time. Honestly, the
Speaker 1: two of you have been so fantastic and so honest,
Speaker 1: and I knew you would be. But just very quickly,
Speaker 1: can you give me the order of the houses. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be really hard, so don't think about it.
Speaker 1: The order of the houses are going to make the
Speaker 1: most amount of money.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna make the most amount of money.
Speaker 1: That's the vision board. Okay, that's the vision board.
Speaker 3: Great. Yeah, you know what, I don't think the two
Speaker 3: big ones going to make the most amount of money
Speaker 3: because I think the reserves are.
Speaker 2: Going to be it's gonna go, it's gonna go. I'm
Speaker 2: going to be really controversial.
Speaker 4: Three most most amount of money goodness.
Speaker 2: Five for one.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So that's all I needed. That's all I needed.
Speaker 1: But I do it, Ash. I appreciate that before you go.
Speaker 1: Something that I ask everyone who joins the podcast, what
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes, something that we as
Speaker 1: an audience would not see, kind of like a behind
Speaker 1: the scenes secret of your time on the show. Maybe
Speaker 1: something silly that happened along the way that we've missed
Speaker 1: because we all know on reality TV when we watch
Speaker 1: it back, we think, oh, wait for this, this is
Speaker 1: about to happen. And then it doesn't happen, and you go,
Speaker 1: why didn't they show that?
Speaker 3: I would love to say that there would be a few,
Speaker 3: but I feel like we were on the show.
Speaker 5: A lot like what I wore the same pair of
Speaker 5: shorts five.
Speaker 4: Days in it, right, I mean, we love the break down.
Speaker 1: Suff guys, please do me a favor and just enjoy
Speaker 1: this series. You both are so fantastic on this show.
Speaker 1: It would not have been the same series without you.
Speaker 1: Forget the haters and make a shitload of money out
Speaker 1: of this finale that's about to come up, and just
Speaker 1: enjoy it for what it is. Celebrate it for what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Well, if you ever in Risbon drops the line I
Speaker 2: would love.
Speaker 1: To but you can get me out of the house
Speaker 1: and Lea and I would need to talk.
Speaker 2: Stick you know, let's go get a break mate.
Speaker 4: Love chatting to you
Speaker 1: Love chatting to you both look after yourselves.