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Speaker 1: Welcome to your Diary episode. Here's the thing. I'm a

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Speaker 1: bit of a nomad, so these episodes come to you

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Speaker 1: from wherever I'm living or traveling to at the time,

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Speaker 1: so I'll share with you what's going on in my world,

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Speaker 1: from book tours, animal encounters, delish meals, nature adventures, health

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Speaker 1: discoveries to swimming in hidden Byron Bay beaches. Come with

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Speaker 1: me as I share my adventures with you. I have

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Speaker 1: a veteran guest on today.

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Speaker 2: Don't know about Vetron, I think, so it's not the first.

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Speaker 1: Time though it's not your first rodeo, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've improved, though I think you have.

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Speaker 1: It's Dad for people new to the Potter if you

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Speaker 1: haven't listened. So I've got Dad up here. He's visiting

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Speaker 1: Bosco and I. You've been gallivanting around Byron Bay the

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Speaker 1: last few days, so I thought we might share some

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Speaker 1: cool things because the Byron Diary is basically what I've

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Speaker 1: done in the week. But you know I often do

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff. I got to peaches, pillates.

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Speaker 1: You know. I love going for coffees. You and I've

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Speaker 1: had a few good coffee since you've been here, But

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Speaker 1: I thought you've been on a few discovered a few places.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start with what beaches have you

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Speaker 1: visited while you've been here?

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Speaker 2: The beaches that I've visited, well, obviously.

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Speaker 1: Old the micah, pinch closer to your face, my friend, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so but just bring it close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it perfect, perfect. I've seen a different

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Speaker 2: part of this part of the world, like Northern Rivers,

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Speaker 2: the Northern Rivers, like I've been to Bengalow and I've

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Speaker 2: been to Byron Bay in the past, and I've been

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Speaker 2: to ocean shores. But I had a day out yesterday

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Speaker 2: where I went to see my brother who lives up

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Speaker 2: near Brunswick Heads in the hinter Land, and I went

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Speaker 2: to Kingscliff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been.

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Speaker 2: No, it's I prefer Cabareta. I went to Cabareta as

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Speaker 2: well after yea after and we had a smoothies and

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Speaker 1: At Cabaret And you went to a place called Nectar,

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Nectar at Cabareta, And Cabareta is a lovely little village.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and great beach, beautiful beach. Do you know my

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Speaker 1: friend saw on the beach last week at Cabareta, a

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Speaker 1: sea snake on the beach.

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Speaker 2: That concerns me business, particularly if I'm bringing my dog

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Speaker 2: up here at Chris Christmas time. But Kingscliff is very

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Speaker 2: different to Cabaretta. It's about three times the length. The

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the Gold Coast, really busier, busier.

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Speaker 2: But also the design of the houses, not all the canals,

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Speaker 2: but just the houses reminded me of Gold Coast islands,

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Speaker 2: you know the islands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like where that the marina kind of yeah.

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Speaker 2: But from choice, I would say Caburta is my prettiest place.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. It's gorge Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 2: And then then we went to Mulum Bimby and the

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Speaker 1: You've been to Mullum with us before the Farmer's market.

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Speaker 2: I've been to the Farmer's market and that's really an

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Speaker 2: interesting vibe. That farmer's feels more hippie, right, very hippy,

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Speaker 2: very hippie. But where I went my brother's son was

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Speaker 2: in the Hindland near Minion Falls, and there's another falls

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Speaker 1: Do you want to try and say it?

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Speaker 2: Goo and garya go and Gary goon and Gary goon

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Speaker 2: and Garry. Yeah, there's another.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful, but you're actually hiking the top of the waterfall,

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Speaker 2: You don't it's a magical view. It's a magic equal escarpment.

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Speaker 1: What does escarpment, Well, cliffs cliff. Yeah, you feel like

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Speaker 2: It's like a valley, a valley between two lots of cliffs.

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Speaker 2: You're on one side and you can look across to

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Speaker 2: No, the escarpment, it's beautiful. But the waterfall that I

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Speaker 2: saw at Minion with you last time, yes, spect huge.

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Speaker 2: That was way bigger, right, spectacular. Well, you could see

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Speaker 1: Water So last Christmas when we went to Minion, we

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Speaker 2: That was the no. We drove. We drove up to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're allowed to be there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's a lot of restrictions in the

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Speaker 1: Not where we hiked. The other day. You and I

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Speaker 1: hiked Lennox Headland and you can have dogs on leads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And that was a beautiful hike too.

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Speaker 2: And we saw dolphins, we did, and you you saw

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Speaker 1: We also took you, so don't say the name of

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Speaker 1: this beach so I'll get in trouble. We took you

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Speaker 1: to a secret beach where you had to hike to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I counted the steps. Two hundred steps down, two

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a hike, isn't it Quite?

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Speaker 2: It is, But it's particularly like a cove, isn't it

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Speaker 2: a cove? And it's quite, as you say, quite isolated, secluded.

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Speaker 1: I think there was probably about two or three other

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Speaker 1: about four big They were really big dolphins. If you

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Speaker 2: Probably, And I mean there seemed to be a lot

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Speaker 2: of pods of dolphins around here. We've seen them from

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Speaker 2: the lighthouse at Barron Bay before, heaps of them.

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Speaker 1: So at Chris. So, in case you haven't picked up

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Speaker 1: on this, Dad's coming back for Christmas. But I think

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Speaker 2: That was a lovely day. But we didn't see any dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We just saw a turtle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, So I think we should And if

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Speaker 2: you don't see dolphins, you get a free returns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how good is that? So we'll do it again

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Speaker 1: at Christmas? And what about the birthday Presie, Matt and

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love horses.

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Speaker 1: You're an ex equine bet, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: I'm an ex eq one bet. And I just think

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Speaker 2: horses are majestic and regal. They're just a beautiful animal,

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Speaker 2: very dangerous. But yeah, I'm going to do a trail.

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Speaker 1: Ride on the beach each so seven mile beach, So.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be exciting next time I come up.

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Speaker 1: So Dad's birthday is always on the twenty fifth of November,

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Speaker 1: a full month before Christmas, so we thought we'll get

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Speaker 1: you something that you can use up here when you

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Speaker 1: hear it Christmas, so you'll be able to book it

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Speaker 1: Christmas time. Yes, and Hannah is it's going to be

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Speaker 2: Oh, magnificent. I love trial rights. I'm not a good

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Speaker 2: good rider. At university. I did do a few writing lessons,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, and you.

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Speaker 2: Just learnt basic riding, which has helped me in good stead.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt showed me this breed of horse that I

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen before, and it's really spotty all over, and

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Speaker 1: like a leopard like. It's that spotty like, lots of

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Speaker 1: little spots all over it.

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Speaker 2: The Pinto has sort of brown and white spots that

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Speaker 2: you see in cowboy movies. Millions are on the.

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Speaker 1: Pinto's Sinto's is that what's called. And there are South

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how cool.

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Speaker 2: I'll look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad loves horses, so and there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of places if anyone's up here visiting, So I booked

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Speaker 1: you that via a place called Pegasus Park Equestrian Center.

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Speaker 1: But I think there's also the bar and Bay Ranch

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Speaker 1: that bost and I have volunteered at before and visited before.

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Speaker 1: There's also a if you ever want to volunteer at

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Speaker 1: like that's not just horses, there's cows. There's but that's

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Speaker 2: Year old X rays horses, right, and they probably would

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Speaker 2: helping out with the animals and rehability.

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Speaker 1: Just remind me, I've got to write an email. I

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Speaker 1: totally forgot to keep blanking on it. Okay, so you've

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Speaker 1: done some beach swims while you've been here, you've had

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Speaker 1: some You and I had a couple of coffee. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're me both.

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Speaker 2: got some nice little healthy eats.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, you got sourdo crumpets.

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Speaker 2: Crumpets with a passion fruit topping curve and a lemon

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Speaker 2: lemon curd topping.

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Speaker 1: So that which was better the passion fruit of lemon?

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Speaker 2: Well I had a lot more of the passion fruit.

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Speaker 2: They were running out of the lemon. But no, they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so good okay. And today Matt and I had

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Speaker 1: you took yourself to the movies. What did you see?

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Speaker 1: Because we always do a movie review on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and we also do a book review, so you're my

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Speaker 1: movie and book review this week? So what did you

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Speaker 1: see today, Missus Harry? Was it miss Harris goes to Paris?

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Speaker 2: Missus Harris goes to Paris? Yeah, it's yeah, a lovely,

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Speaker 2: to a feminine side more.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, well it's about isn't it about saving up

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Speaker 1: to buy a beautiful deal gown?

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Speaker 2: Yes, she has a dream that she gets a beautiful

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Speaker 2: deal gown and she goes about saving an art money

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Speaker 2: to go to Paris, to go to the design studio,

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Speaker 2: the design house and purchase it.

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Speaker 1: Is it shot in Paris?

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Speaker 2: Does it look like a lot of it's shot in

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Speaker 1: But they when we looked after Abby, she's a Golden Retriever, isn't.

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00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can get sort of paranoias with thunder

437
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: and yeah and fireworks and things.

438
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: Like that, So I think my baby is my favorite.

439
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: Of those sizes are obviously Italian Greyhound for little yeah,

440
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: I love one.

441
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: I think they're good because they're they're they're heads, they're

442
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: not long hairds, so.

443
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: They're not little dog. Is it a clean Yeah?

444
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: And like all gray hands, they run like the wind,

445
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: but they're happy to be couched potatoes. Yeah yeah, like

446
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: even grayhounds. The Greyhound adoption program, those dogs make wonderful pets.

447
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: And I think it's the same as what you're saying

448
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: about the boxer. You even love that quirky little face,

449
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: and I quite like it. But I remember when we

450
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: grew up with the whippets, one of mum's friends used

451
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: to call them rats, like they didn't like the look

452
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: of them. Whereas we loved the look of them, so

453
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: I think it is that personal preference. And then that

454
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: medium sized matte loves borders, so what you have chat

455
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: and he loves Aussie shepherds and.

456
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 2: That they're similar shepherds.

457
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: They called coolies. Coolies. That's all that same farm kelpie.

458
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: They're all that work dog. So they need to be

459
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: exercise loads, stimulation and smart.

460
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: Right one step ahead of me. My dog is one step.

461
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: As I'm talking to dad, he's wearing a cap that

462
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: has clearly been chewed by his dog.

463
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: It has you know, it's not the first I know.

464
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: He got your Roger Federer hat.

465
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, I've got another one. I just happened to

466
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: get the last one that was in the shop. I

467
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: bought it because my original one was ruined. And I

468
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: loved him and went to South Africa with me and

469
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: it did Safaris with me.

470
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: And then the bigger dogs I do really love, like

471
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: the Newfoundland and the same Banna, those big but they're and.

472
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: The dog de Bordeaux was a beautiful dog.

473
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: Shit they do have health problems, don't.

474
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Have problems, joint problems. They don't live there. The larger

475
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: the breed, the shorter the life.

476
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: Span, is a rule, and the littler dogs like an

477
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Italian Greyhound, can have a pretty long life.

478
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: Smaller the breed, longer the life span.

479
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: As a rule, other than a cocker spaniel, Cavalier.

480
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Cavalier King Charles cavalty spaniels. Yeah, if you get them

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: the double figures, you're doing pretty well.

482
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh how interesting. And cats have long lives, don't they.

483
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't got a lot of weight to carry around.

484
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of genetic problems as a rule.

485
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: They savvy.

486
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're pretty independent, so they're fairly low maintenance.

487
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: And but they interact and they like playing with toys.

488
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I had a I was when

489
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: I was in La. I helped my friend look after

490
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: her cat while she was away.

491
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: Was it in particular breed?

492
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: It was a black and white one.

493
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't a pure bred though, no.

494
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Gorgeous though black and white. But he plays fetch like

495
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: a dog. Yeah, And like I was working on my

496
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: laptop and target my leg. Next minute he's on my

497
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: lap and tells me when he doesn't want me to

498
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: keep working. Like they've got a very specific personality they have,

499
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: they have.

500
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: I had two clinic cats and zeb yes, and Zebe

501
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: would sit at the front counter and people would come

502
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: and pay, and he'd go and striking, strike them with

503
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: his poor and I thought, oh, that's not really good

504
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: for business. They're trying to pay. He did that, Yeah,

505
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: just the occasional person, he'd say with his claws, he'd

506
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: just give them a tap. He would really wouldn't be aggressive,

507
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: but I just thought some people could be put off.

508
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: I liked the very black one. You didn't you save him?

509
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: Wasn't he found in like a gutter or something?

510
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we found him. The clinic was on Epsom Road,

511
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: so we called him EPI and we found him. We

512
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: found him on the road on road.

513
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: And he's a fluffy black and white thing.

514
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: And Zebi was the owner. Yeah, the client passed away

515
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: and she had about or a cats and two dogs

516
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: and we place most of them.

517
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we kept one that's nice as.

518
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: A reminder of her. She was a very good client.

519
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: She used to come in all the time.

520
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: Well with all those animals, that sounds like it.

521
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: She was a good client.

522
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And now I just want to quickly wrap up

523
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: by talking about It's December first, so traditionally it being

524
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: December first, that means it's Christmas time.

525
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: Now we're getting ready and all the shops are getting ready,

526
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: and I must say, my daughter is getting ready.

527
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I love Christmas. I think I've inherited that from Mum,

528
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: from your mother. She mom loves a mum loves a shindig.

529
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whereas I'm more solitary.

530
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm solitary too, but I do like Christmas and just

531
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: like getting the house excited of Christmas. So this is

532
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Matt and I just figured out. In the whole time

533
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: we've dated, so for what four and a half years,

534
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: this is the first time we've bought our own Christmas tree.

535
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Really, if I bought them for the past, No, No,

536
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: I think we've.

537
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: Just put decos on our plants. Oh yeah, we've never liked.

538
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: I was here last Christmas. I'm going to be here

539
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: again this Christmas. And yes, you decorated your plants.

540
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: You remember it still felt Christmas. He didn't.

541
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had all the decorations, but it wasn't a poem.

542
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: So we learned our lesson because we went to Bunnings

543
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: to get a tree and all of the trees were

544
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: sold out and chop trees, which obviously are a little

545
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: bit less sustainable. That's last last year. Are quite expensive

546
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: to buy a chop down, and yes they smell beautiful

547
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: and piney, but they're really really dear. Like I was

548
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: googling and the start price was one hundred and fifteen

549
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: dollars up to eight hundred and ninety.

550
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's messy, given that they die off.

551
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: So we decided to get a live one and keep

552
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: it alive for years to come. So we bought it's

553
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: called a cook pine and so I don't know, look

554
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: it looks. It reminds me of like all the pines

555
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: along in talks, like along the beach and even.

556
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Here there are Norfolk Island pine trees or along the

557
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: beach trees and a talkie. Definitely there are Norfolk Island pints.

558
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: That's where it's what.

559
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: The tree looks a bit like, doesn't it. It's got

560
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: that vibe. Yeah, So our plan is now to pop

561
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: some carols on. Of course, with your name being Nol,

562
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: we have to put the first noel by Dennis Walter.

563
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: Of course. Of course that's a tradition, and I make

564
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: sure it's a tradition.

565
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Matt loves Harry Potter. That's his favorite

566
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: book series and movie series in the world. So a

567
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: lot of our decorations are Harry Potter themed, right.

568
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: It was hard to find Harry Potter theme decorations today, you.

569
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: Said you couldn't find any. Now I've been collecting them

570
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: over the years. I look for Harry Potter for Matt

571
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: and nol or Noel for you. Yes, so we're all set.

572
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: We're going to pop some tunes on, decorate the.

573
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: Tree everyone, and a very happy Merry Christmas on the

574
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: twenty fifth.

575
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you will hear from me a lot more than that, guys,

576
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: you will hear from me. I will be doing diary

577
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: check ins right up until Christmas, and we've got a

578
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: whole holiday special podcast coming for you. I'm actually going

579
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: to Melbourne next week to stay with you, but also

580
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: record more podcasts from Melbourne. So sure were Yeah, we

581
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: get gearing up.

582
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're into December, so it's a silly season.

583
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: Bring it on, Bring it on. You love it.

584
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dad, big love, big love to you too.

585
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Bye bye, Dad. Just what decided we should do a ps?

586
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: Didn't you?

587
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: I did? Because it's the time of the year when

588
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: animals may be exposed to all the things that we

589
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: love at Christmas.

590
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: So as a vet, you are a vet. You're going

591
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: to give us a quick little tip for looking after

592
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: pets during Christmas.

593
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: So go for it. Yes, well, initially, cats, you know,

594
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: they chew on leaves and and Christmas lilies, as lovely

595
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: as they smell, are quite toxic to cats.

596
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Cats and if they chew on them, chew.

597
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: On any part of them, whether it be the stem,

598
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: the leaf or the flour, they can get renal failure,

599
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: kidney failure, and it can be fatal. Really, So you've

600
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: got to be careful with your Christmas lilies, which I

601
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: love because they give off such a nice perfume. Dogs. Yes,

602
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: all your Christmas fairs dangerous to dogs, like raisin, sultanas.

603
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Pudding would be bad, then chocolate would be.

604
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Bad, cakes, nuts, nuts, nuts, chocolate. Definitely, You've just got

605
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: to be really careful that you keep it well. And

606
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: I think animal height and.

607
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I think if you think, oh, we've got leftover turkey,

608
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: we're going to give it to the dog. Make sure

609
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: there's no onion or garlic in the stuffing.

610
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: And fatty stuff. Yeah, they shouldn't get any of the

611
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: stuff and you should take all the fat off meats, so.

612
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Onion and garlic and no good for dogs?

613
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Are they noon and garlic no good?

614
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: Does it upset their gastrointestinal tracts? And I read that

615
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: if dogs get into nuts, it can almost it can

616
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of make them seem woozy or almost drunk, like

617
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: it can throw off their balance.

618
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a neurotoxin, yeah that can affect them. Yeah,

619
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: really important. I think dogs should be on probiotics all

620
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: the time really just because they're scavengers.

621
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they find something and.

622
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: It shows the other end. They take it in orally

623
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: and it shows the other end. And I have my

624
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: Border Collie on a probiotic every day, yeah, because he

625
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: will pick things up that I'm not aware of.

626
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: And also as a nutritionist just jumping on here. As

627
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: humans over the festive season, our diet obviously varies. You're

628
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: drinking a little bit more than usual, or you're having

629
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: a bit more sugar than usual. Having a probotic in

630
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: your own tiet is a really smart thing as well,

631
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: because it just helps to find that balance, you know,

632
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: of your gut if you're exposing it to say a

633
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: little bit more sugar or alcohol than it's used to

634
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: and you're going to bounce back the other side of

635
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: it quicker.

636
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Just keep the gut equilibrium.

637
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Happy days.

638
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's important for us all.

639
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for thank you for the pet Christmas

640
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: one O one appreciate it. Short and sweet yeah perfect, Okay,

641
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: love you bye,