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Speaker 3: Oh there's what is going to be a whirl When
Speaker 3: are we across the chat GPT.
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it drama.
Speaker 3: Sounds like I've been fantalizing what could be the end
Speaker 3: of humanity as we know it. But it is drama.
Speaker 3: So sometime last week or the week before, Sam Oltman,
Speaker 3: the CEO of chat GPT, was dismissed randomly one day.
Speaker 3: He didn't even see it coming. He went in, he
Speaker 3: got dismissed. He went on Twitter or x and said
Speaker 3: it's been great, I love you all, but I've been fired.
Speaker 3: Then his co founder walked out with him. Mind you,
Speaker 3: they're about six co founders. Elon Musk is one of them.
Speaker 3: So Greg walks out with Sam. Everybody's confused why they
Speaker 3: being fired. The issue is Sam is all about AI acceleration.
Speaker 3: He wants AI to evolve and involve at such a
Speaker 3: rapid pace that we can almost have changes of a
Speaker 3: one hundred years happen in one year. That's what he's
Speaker 3: advocating for. He's like, this could be the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 3: Everybody else on the board is like, it's just too much.
Speaker 3: We Chat GPTs owned by not for profit which believes
Speaker 3: in like AI for the benefit of humanity, and accelerating
Speaker 3: at such rapid rate will not be for the benefit
Speaker 3: of humanity.
Speaker 1: So they ousked him. What ensues is five days of
Speaker 1: just nonsense.
Speaker 3: So basically there's gossip between the guys that left, and
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, we need to be at the
Speaker 3: helm of change. We can't fear the future. Elon Musk
Speaker 3: jumps in, He's like, I even think they've gone too
Speaker 3: far with this. They're accelerating too quickly. It's not good.
Speaker 3: Then Microsoft, who owns a forty nine percent stake in
Speaker 3: chat GPT, hires Sam and Greg for Microsoft and says
Speaker 3: if they won't keep you, will hire you. Then open AI,
Speaker 3: who owns chat GPT, says sorry, we made a mistake.
Speaker 3: We want to rehire the guys that we fired, and
Speaker 3: we fired half the board who fired you initially, so
Speaker 3: now you can come back. What does this mean. I'm
Speaker 3: not quite sure, because here's what the critics are saying.
Speaker 3: You have these people, and we're not making generalizations.
Speaker 1: Of tech wizards, but people who.
Speaker 3: Are fundamentally isolated from the rest of the world, with
Speaker 3: all the resources they need to make their dreams and
Speaker 3: their fantasies a possibility. Now, when someone who's quite isolated
Speaker 3: from the general human experience has all the power to
Speaker 3: change how humanity works, who's to say what they will
Speaker 3: do or not do with them. Also, considering that most
Speaker 3: of the people interacting with AI don't understand it therefore
Speaker 3: don't understand the pros or the cons with introducing it
Speaker 3: so rapidly into our lives.
Speaker 1: We stort of understand what.
Speaker 3: Bluetooth is, Mabe career, I don't even know what Wi
Speaker 3: fi is, And now'drop what is air drop?
Speaker 1: And now we're messing with AI.
Speaker 3: So the people who are a bit fearful of SAM
Speaker 3: and chat GPT are fearful of the fact that if
Speaker 3: we advocate so heavily for something that we don't stand
Speaker 3: and it doesn't work in our benefit, we're going to
Speaker 3: be unfairly compromised. And if we slow down AI evolution,
Speaker 3: we are slowing down the inevitable. I don't know what
Speaker 3: this means in the grand scheme, of things. But keep
Speaker 3: an eye out for Microsoft. Just keep an eye out,
Speaker 3: keep an eye out for chat tipt, keep an eye out,
Speaker 3: keep an eye out for open AI.
Speaker 1: I will tell you one thing.
Speaker 4: Once my house got broken into in Surrey Hills and
Speaker 4: the rubber stole all the Apple computers, all our jewelry. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what did they leave the Microsoft tablet?
Speaker 1: So do about what you will. They've got a long
Speaker 1: way to go. They've got a long way to go.
Speaker 4: I have one other story to share with the audience,
Speaker 4: and this is about AI.
Speaker 1: Mind reading Huge.
Speaker 4: A psychologist explains what mind reading AI can do for us.
Speaker 4: So researchers at the University of Texas in Austin successfully
Speaker 4: developed a non invasive language decoder that can read brain
Speaker 4: waves and interpret what people are thinking in real time.
Speaker 4: By the way, guys, I'm for the first time right now,
Speaker 4: making it one of the most important developments in the
Speaker 4: field of human AI interaction today. But it raises a
Speaker 4: crucial question, what are we planning to do with this superpower? Mickey,
Speaker 4: you found this story? Anything else to add? Now?
Speaker 1: You can keep reading it. Okay, They're gonna help me
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 4: So here's some possibilities of how the technology could work.
Speaker 4: It seems likely that the technology will enable speech impaired
Speaker 4: individuals to communicate.
Speaker 1: With thoughts alone.
Speaker 4: Secondly, this technology may aid criminal investigation.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that's in.
Speaker 4: Like a mind read one mind reading situation that seems unethical.
Speaker 4: This technology, once it matures and makes its way into
Speaker 4: the hands of social media companies or the government, may
Speaker 4: listen into our private thoughts, effectively rendering a privacy a
Speaker 4: thing of the part.
Speaker 1: Okay, how do we jump there?
Speaker 3: Hold on a second, a second, one more time. Researchers
Speaker 3: at the University of Texas at Austin successfully developed a
Speaker 3: non innovasive language decoder that can read brain waves and
Speaker 3: interpret what people are thinking in real time. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like that's possible. Number One, If I am thinking
Speaker 3: of an apple, how do you decode the story I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about the apple?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just went through a whole thing. Candy apple
Speaker 1: are snow white.
Speaker 4: Now it's red, Now it's green, exactly, it's crispy, it's mushy, exactly.
Speaker 3: And I was rewatching inception the other day and it
Speaker 3: was talking about how to success.
Speaker 1: Don't do it, dang it, dang doo it.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a documentary, did you okay my brain? So
Speaker 3: to successfully plant a thought into someone's mind so deep
Speaker 3: into their subconscious you have to plant almost like proximal
Speaker 3: thoughts through it. So if I want you to believe
Speaker 3: that red apples are superior to green apples, if I
Speaker 3: tell that to you, you can trace that thought back
Speaker 3: to me so quickly. So Nanni, to find out the
Speaker 3: emotional response you have towards apples or don't have towards apples,
Speaker 3: or the color green or the color rent.
Speaker 1: It's not that simple.
Speaker 3: You can't tell me because I'm thinking about maple leaves
Speaker 3: that I want to go to Canada and to jump
Speaker 3: from This thing can read brain waves and interpret what
Speaker 3: people are thinking to social media companies will listen in
Speaker 3: on our private thoughts. Okay, So I have a thought
Speaker 3: on this surprisingly Unsurprisingly the way that it will be
Speaker 3: in the hands of the social media companies tell me
Speaker 3: why they already know what I'm thinking without me thinking it.
Speaker 1: Maybe because you're not thinking.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're just having thoughts planted into your brain and
Speaker 3: then you're just becoming aware of them.
Speaker 4: The first two points seem like net positives. Here's the
Speaker 4: scary part. Did you write this, this came from for.
Speaker 1: Stuff. What is the agenda of this writer?
Speaker 3: How do you go from this technology may aid criminal investigation?
Speaker 1: Now social media is listening.
Speaker 4: In when it comes to the third point, the wheels
Speaker 4: already in motion. META is now capable of visualizing with
Speaker 4: precision what a person is looking at simply based on
Speaker 4: their brain activity.
Speaker 1: How does META have my brain activity?
Speaker 4: Forks predicts this type of AI has the power to
Speaker 4: increase our spending and make hypool.
Speaker 3: Somebody find this force writer enough. I just feel like,
Speaker 3: here's the thing everyone. When we talk about media literacy,
Speaker 3: we talk about framing, right. I could imagine there's a
Speaker 3: lot we wouldn't understand about this original research paper about
Speaker 3: this new type of AI that may potentially read your
Speaker 3: brain activity. But we've simplified it so much so now
Speaker 3: we're saying we're inferring that META is one to watch
Speaker 3: out for because it is going to read our brain
Speaker 3: activity if we use the platform.
Speaker 4: I will also say on that very quickly until we
Speaker 4: move into a game. Everybody, it's the same as epigenetics, right. So,
Speaker 4: I think on the podcast a couple of weeks where
Speaker 4: we were talking about the concept that you're in your
Speaker 4: grandma's hummy, when your mum was in your grandma's hummy.
Speaker 4: I've been doing more research about it, and there's a
Speaker 4: lot of feminist theory and writing about how it's like
Speaker 4: really dangerous to go down that route of thinking of
Speaker 4: it in simplistic terms, because if we're going to simmer
Speaker 4: it down that much, you can then think, oh, we're
Speaker 4: going to control women's bodies. In that case, there's stuff
Speaker 4: in the US where certain researchers were thinking that to
Speaker 4: fix the obesity crisis in quotation marks, the option is
Speaker 4: to give all women gastric band surgery if they're overweight
Speaker 4: before they have a kid. That was a genuine thing
Speaker 4: they were looking at. I'm like, this is giving hairmaid's tail.
Speaker 3: It's lovely to see how people connect thoughts. But we
Speaker 3: also talked about when we spoke about epigenetics on the podcast,
Speaker 3: we said that the reason why people are mindful of
Speaker 3: it becoming a popular conversation is because it can reinforce stereotypes.
Speaker 3: So if we oversimplify the way that everything comes to be.
Speaker 3: My dad lived in a very dramatic environment, therefore he's dramatic,
Speaker 3: Therefore I dramatic, mic whatever then it's like, okay, I
Speaker 3: don't think we're smart enough to know how we're even
Speaker 3: consciously impacted, let alone subconsciously.
Speaker 1: And then on like a biological molecular level.
Speaker 3: Molecular we don't have the capacity.
Speaker 1: It's time to play a game. Who here? Finished you
Speaker 1: twelve recently? Oh? Yeah, I saw you. You got pointed at. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's great, hate, I can see everybody.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to speak, but you
Speaker 4: can just like talk to me. Was this this year
Speaker 4: or last year?
Speaker 1: This year? You just finished? Do you want to talk
Speaker 1: on the microphone or you're just happy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi, Hi, Hey, good Thanks? What's your name?
Speaker 5: Ruby?
Speaker 1: So when did you finish your exams?
Speaker 5: About a month ago or like end of November?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What subjects did you do?
Speaker 5: I did literature media like visual communication, design and business
Speaker 5: and psychology.
Speaker 1: Subject Ask me what I did in your twelve? It
Speaker 1: was like art, visual art, Are you serious? We didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything in English Victoria.
Speaker 3: Yeah, literature, the garden state, Psytology, you can do psychologist
Speaker 3: that was not offer.
Speaker 4: I did psychology, sociology. What theater studies that's a random one.
Speaker 4: Drama and hospitality. When will you find out your.
Speaker 1: Score eleventh of December.
Speaker 4: I think, do you have like a I guess you
Speaker 4: don't know a ballpark figure till you get.
Speaker 1: It, do you. Let's not put it into the abyss.
Speaker 5: No, of course, of course, let's wish her the best man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, over ninety. Well can I tell you so?
Speaker 1: I got mine in twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I got twenty twelve December the twelfth, okay, so
Speaker 4: same date. And I got over text. I think I
Speaker 4: was like the first year to get it over text.
Speaker 4: And I'm writing about this.
Speaker 1: At the moment.
Speaker 4: Might not go in the book, but I was talking
Speaker 4: about how I was in bed with my boyfriend at
Speaker 4: the time and I got the text message and he
Speaker 4: was quite a bit older than me, and so I
Speaker 4: think he thought.
Speaker 1: I was really dumb. And I don't know. I'm uncovering
Speaker 1: all of stuff in the book. It's okay.
Speaker 4: And I got the text message and the score. I
Speaker 4: was really happy with the score, and I started laughing like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, like what the hell?
Speaker 1: And I showed him.
Speaker 4: The phone like I angled the phone towards him, and
Speaker 4: his face just drops like it was like he was devastated.
Speaker 1: He looks me like I was an alien.
Speaker 4: You know when someone's like, damn, like you were hiding
Speaker 4: something from me that you could get this score, And
Speaker 4: that's when I knew it had to end.
Speaker 1: He still broke up with me, but you know, but you.
Speaker 3: Knew first, and you first in that moment. Will you
Speaker 3: do us the favor of revealing the score? I think
Speaker 3: it goes without saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I think if you've listened to the.
Speaker 3: Podcast, this is not to brag everyone, This is not
Speaker 3: to brag. It's just we are we do have a
Speaker 3: genius in our miss It must.
Speaker 4: Said, It must be said, any guesses out there for
Speaker 4: the score ninety eight, ninety five, an fortunate watunate, thank you,
Speaker 4: unfortunately point nine.
Speaker 1: Because then people would say, oh, you got a ninety seven.
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know if we must.
Speaker 1: If we must, are we going to play the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to play the game. Hey, what's this one wiki?
Speaker 3: So we're doing this year's HC Hospitality Exam.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I've got the answers with me so you
Speaker 1: can read them.
Speaker 5: Mount Buzzy, I'll let you know.
Speaker 4: Which type of milk is most suitable for a customer
Speaker 4: who is lactose intolerance.
Speaker 1: There is no way, There is no way. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: are you studying We're in a crisis. Anybody you know
Speaker 1: the answer to this? Which type of milk is most
Speaker 1: suitable for a customer who is lactose intolerant? Skim whole?
Speaker 1: It's soy.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid you're not going to pass that one because
Speaker 4: the final two milk or almond?
Speaker 1: What's your name? Iriri? Well, thank you? Irie?
Speaker 4: Listen number two? Which of the following indicates a caution sign?
Speaker 1: Wait? What was the answer? Almond was just in case?
Speaker 1: Which of the following indicates a caution sign?
Speaker 4: A red circle black symbol, B blue circle white symbol,
Speaker 4: see yellow triangle black symbol, or D green triangle white symbol.
Speaker 1: Are the other symbols even a real symbol?
Speaker 4: Which of the following indicates a caution sign? Yellow triangle
Speaker 4: black symbol?
Speaker 1: Are you correct?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 1: We don't do that?
Speaker 3: Okay, So then what are the psychology people studying? If
Speaker 3: this is what mosticality gets? What do you mean what
Speaker 3: type of milk is suitable for people who have laptose intolerance.
Speaker 1: I'll try and give you a hard one.
Speaker 4: Which of the following pairs of complimentary selections is industry
Speaker 4: standard for the serving with herbal tea, honey and milk,
Speaker 4: honey and lemon flavored syrup, and milk flavored syrup and lemon.
Speaker 1: There's honey and lemon.
Speaker 3: Right If anyone wants to buzz in the audience, Yeah,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with honey and lemon, please.
Speaker 4: Her You are correct, the audible cheer from the audience.
Speaker 1: Okay, amazing. I would have said honey and milk. So six.
Speaker 4: Food manufacture and production can be affected by natural disasters? Well,
Speaker 4: what aspects of a restaurant's menu would most likely be
Speaker 4: affected by this? A? Pricing, customer service, food quality, B presentation,
Speaker 4: customer service staffing, C pricing food availability and supply, food
Speaker 4: quality or depresentation food ability.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, it's three. Wait hold on a second.
Speaker 3: I'm food manufacture and production can be affected by natural disasters.
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 3: What aspects of a restaurant's menu would most likely be
Speaker 3: affected by this? And you're saying pricing, food availability, supply,
Speaker 3: food quality, Mickia, my correct, But hold on, it's a
Speaker 3: natural disaster. Are we gonna have staffing issues? If your
Speaker 3: house is flooded, you can't come to work.
Speaker 1: What did you lock in? I locked in C.
Speaker 5: You are correct for me?
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 4: I cannot believe how easy this is everybody else doing this?
Speaker 1: How many years are we out of HC.
Speaker 4: I think I got dumber as you went past. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be serious.
Speaker 1: The brain run, the brain run is so really onset.
Speaker 1: Brain run too, all right?
Speaker 3: The term covers in a hospitality establishment refers to the
Speaker 3: number of what seats in the restaurant, drink serve in
Speaker 3: the restaurant, dishes served in the service period, guests served
Speaker 3: in a service period.
Speaker 1: Does anybody does anybody who work in hospitality? No? Not
Speaker 1: of your Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: You're correct.
Speaker 4: You get to keep your job. That's awesome. Hey, can
Speaker 4: you tell us for your work? Or is that classified information?
Speaker 1: Alimentary? Are you serious? Well? Thank you so much, Alimentary.
Speaker 1: Can you tell them? I got a shout out? Oh
Speaker 1: of course, I love it, Alimentary. What a venue? What
Speaker 1: we're gonna do?
Speaker 4: Is my favorite part of the podcast in the last
Speaker 4: few months is Mickey's music Quiz. Micky gives us like
Speaker 4: two seconds of a song and we have to guess
Speaker 4: what the song is. I am probably more confident However.
Speaker 1: I don't win.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get you guys involved. Micky, what is today's
Speaker 4: and I'll transcribe? What is today's theme?
Speaker 2: Cliche celebration song.
Speaker 4: Cliche celebration songs to celebrate our last ever show as
Speaker 4: flecks and frames. Here we go, guys, listen carefully.
Speaker 5: Celebrate good times. No, it's celebration Madonna.
Speaker 4: Oh We're so close. Sorry, it's celebration by Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 4: I think you can guess the next one. This is
Speaker 4: Let's give you a redemption chance.
Speaker 5: Buzzers at the Ready song Number two, Cindy Lope Law
Speaker 5: for girls just want to have fun?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yay? Yeah? Boy? All right, Mickey, what's
Speaker 1: the next one? Number three?
Speaker 4: All Night Long Lionel Richie, Yeah, yeah, go off, Queen?
Speaker 1: Is it Let's get loud? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Y yes, okay. This is the last song, everyone.
Speaker 1: The last song ever of the Flex and Froom Show.
Speaker 1: Mickey's music Quiz song number five.
Speaker 5: I got a feeling, black eyed peas.
Speaker 1: That's it, speak on it? Can I sing for you guys?
Speaker 1: Just kidding?
Speaker 4: I did this Beyond the Valley a couple last year,
Speaker 4: and no one knew I was joking, And it was
Speaker 4: one of the worst performances in my life. The story, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll really quickly tell you the story before we go
Speaker 4: Beyond the Valley.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three New Year's Eve.
Speaker 4: I was hosting the podcast stage and I was getting
Speaker 4: a bit bored of the situation. So I thought, my
Speaker 4: last addressed everyone, I'm going to get up on stage
Speaker 4: and play the Crazy Frog.
Speaker 1: So I went up on the stage.
Speaker 4: And I said, hey guys, and like half people didn't
Speaker 4: know anything about me because they were all eighteen and
Speaker 4: most of the people that follow me at thirty five. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I got up on stage and I'm like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: my name's Rooms.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I was actually invited here to be the podcast host,
Speaker 4: but I have a lifelong dream of being a singer,
Speaker 4: so I want to sing for you guys. The audience
Speaker 4: is gasping their like you know when someone's about to
Speaker 4: do something so embarrassing and you're watching and you're like.
Speaker 1: Like they didn't get their phones down a reading because
Speaker 1: they were already that embarrassed already. And I sang with
Speaker 1: the Crazy Frog song and my friend.
Speaker 4: Was Ky video and when I tell you, not a
Speaker 4: single person even laughed, Like everyone was like, I'll play
Speaker 4: it on my phone.
Speaker 1: I better hear you guys singing. This is a redemption
Speaker 1: tour or uh crazy frog Bama man na ma mum
Speaker 1: ba bo. What's going on? Bam bam bam bana da Dun.
Speaker 4: Dan Dan dan da da Dan Dun dun d d
Speaker 4: d dan da Come on, guys, a little bit ding
Speaker 4: ding dan dan dan da da Dan Dan dan dan
Speaker 4: d d d d.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 4: Bam bam bam banana dun Dun dun damn dun da
Speaker 4: da da Dun Dun Dun da da da da da
Speaker 4: da da.
Speaker 1: Bing bing dan da da da da da da. Here
Speaker 1: we go mingman bing bing ding ding bing ming ming
Speaker 1: bing bing ming bing. Wow, that was healing.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 1: Nature healing you, guys. Nature was healing.
Speaker 4: I want to say thank you very much everyone who
Speaker 4: came out today during work hours, which is questionable, but
Speaker 4: I also like that via aspector thank you to our listeners,
Speaker 4: everyone who tuned in every day, and even people that
Speaker 4: tuned in once or twice.
Speaker 1: It has been really fun and I've really enjoyed spending
Speaker 1: time with you. Lilian. Anything to say to me, I'm
Speaker 1: the person that says I love you, and you need
Speaker 1: to say I love you back. Is that how it works?
Speaker 1: I think so. Here's my ode to Frume.
Speaker 3: It's been actually phenomenal getting to know Fu me as
Speaker 3: someone who was first a fan. Like many of you,
Speaker 3: I was across all of her little escapades, her eating
Speaker 3: poisonous berries, having diary and bunnings. I was a fan first, friend, second,
Speaker 3: and then colleague. Thirb been really phenomenal to get a
Speaker 3: peek behind the curtains. She is extraordinary, very intentional, a witch.
Speaker 3: Her family does practice seances everyone. I'm not joking like
Speaker 3: it's really hectic. Most of all, just a nice, good
Speaker 3: and kind person, which is hard to come across. Not
Speaker 3: because people aren't nice, good and kind, but they just
Speaker 3: don't practice it.
Speaker 1: Like you practice it. Thanks Hounty, Wow and Mickey, we
Speaker 1: love you more than thank you. I must send it.
Speaker 1: Here is Flex and Froomes the song thank you Everyone,
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Speaker 2: City, where the lights shine bright, Flex and Froons weaving
Speaker 2: dreams every night two years on the airwaves, A Journey's
Speaker 2: So Sweet, and the word redactive Toyota cars on repeat.
Speaker 2: Flex and Froons the Queens of the air, spreading joy
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Speaker 2: What a time would to ride Big Boss Energy? You
Speaker 2: know it's no lie. Deep in the forest where dark
Speaker 2: shadows roam, two gremlins are dancing finding new homes. The
Speaker 2: price has gone up, the curtains come down. We sure
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