Speaker 1: So this episode is going to have a musical beginning
Speaker 1: and Paul is going to freestyle wrap.
Speaker 2: I can I just say before that happens, you look
Speaker 2: quite disheveled today.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thanks, What has happened to you over the past twenty
Speaker 2: four hours?
Speaker 1: I slept with your maid ah.
Speaker 2: Which one? I was a bloken of female.
Speaker 1: The one, the one in the left wing of the house.
Speaker 2: She is a lefty as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought his name was Stephen Jesus. Let's just
Speaker 1: say he really dusted the gobwebs. Have you been.
Speaker 2: Just living the dream? I picked you up today from
Speaker 2: a house.
Speaker 1: In yeah, a Kia, in a Kia. You picked me
Speaker 1: up in a keya Nero multi colored. So the interesting
Speaker 1: thing is we're going to talk about this car a
Speaker 1: bit later on, obviously. But you had the full electric
Speaker 1: and I had the we and it was a deliberate move.
Speaker 1: We wanted to give you the whole range. I had
Speaker 1: the very the most basic you could get, and I
Speaker 1: generally would I'm such a bitch like this, I'll turn
Speaker 1: my nose up at any any base model. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: thank you, no no. But this she was a basic bitch.
Speaker 1: I mean, the entertainment system was not. There was zero entertainment.
Speaker 1: There was barely a system. It was more of a
Speaker 1: doss program. It was anyway. We'll talk about that later on,
Speaker 1: but thanks for the pickup. We did stop for snacks.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've noticed a theme with you and snacks. You kind
Speaker 2: of you just don't stop.
Speaker 1: It's called diabetes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called not helping your diabetes.
Speaker 1: Do you know what this is? I legit. Had a
Speaker 1: conversation with my doctor this week. He had the conversation
Speaker 1: with me of you need to lose weight. You've put
Speaker 1: on twenty plus kilos in three years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him to you change doctors and media
Speaker 1: changed doctors. The best one is the best one is
Speaker 1: like the Indian doctor is my favorite one because he's like,
Speaker 1: according to the what do you call the thing the
Speaker 1: cat scan thing of the ultrasound, Yeah, according to the
Speaker 1: ultra do you look pregnant? You have a fatty liver.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, is that something I should worry about? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Why I have a fatty liver like a wane? Don't
Speaker 1: you worry? I think I'm gonna have to go on
Speaker 1: some sort of a weight loss journey.
Speaker 2: Because I can looking across the table now I can
Speaker 2: say that clearly hasn't started with a half et and
Speaker 2: bacon roll in a cookie.
Speaker 1: You should judge me less. Yeah, what fun cars have
Speaker 1: you been looking at this week? I've been looking at
Speaker 1: a lot of classic cars. Actually, oh I've been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been a classic car shopping Oh for what? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, youngs ago we were talking about cars we
Speaker 1: wish we'd we'd driven, which is on a wish list,
Speaker 1: And one of the cars that I brought up was
Speaker 1: a Toyota Century. Oh yes, I be twelve. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and there's a couple out on the market moment, and
Speaker 1: I figure, with fuel prices the way they are, why.
Speaker 2: The hell not go all in? How much are we talking? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think this particular one was about forty eight.
Speaker 2: Wow, they are still expensive.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cheap.
Speaker 2: Now, hold on, is this and you're an old century?
Speaker 1: Oh it's not brand new, it's an old one. It's
Speaker 1: like twenty hour.
Speaker 2: I didn't know they were that expensive. Yeah, oh, I
Speaker 2: thought they were like fifteen grand. No, this is I like,
Speaker 2: I've got a certain standard. I know you don't like
Speaker 2: bass cars.
Speaker 1: I just think it'd be fun there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of European classic cars at the moment that have I
Speaker 1: feel like that they're not as well. The price hike
Speaker 1: on them isn't as much as say a secondhand car
Speaker 1: from the last couple of years, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So at the moment you can get like
Speaker 1: a reasonable European could be a bloody Maserati for instance,
Speaker 1: for a pretty good price.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I actually saw randomly where was I. I
Speaker 2: was driving the Mitsubishi Outlander plug in hybrid from the
Speaker 2: launch in Adelaide back to Melbourne and I stopped in
Speaker 2: Horsham to charge the car and a new Toyota Century
Speaker 2: drove past, but like a new, new one. And I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm actually just googling it now because that's what
Speaker 2: surprised me. It was. I think it was a century. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like a new one. I thought it was
Speaker 2: really interesting that.
Speaker 1: Have you seen? They don't really do them here. But
Speaker 1: the Toyota Crown overseas was always like the especially if
Speaker 1: you're in an Asian country, it was always the taxi
Speaker 1: cab car. You know, whether you be in Hong Kong
Speaker 1: or Singapore or something like that. It was a Toyota Crown.
Speaker 1: So I've seen this new Toyota Crown that they've released.
Speaker 1: I saw that bees Yeah, I did see that as well.
Speaker 1: That that looks good drawings. Yeah, that looks really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, look, I think it's yeah that those cars
Speaker 2: have an interesting niche and I think the fact that
Speaker 2: they're still so expensive just shows you that how in
Speaker 2: demand they are. A lot of people don't understand that
Speaker 2: when importing a car, it may be cheap overseas, but
Speaker 2: by the time you get it here, get it compliance
Speaker 2: and repaxes and there is so much money just dropped
Speaker 2: into a black hole that you never get back. So yeah,
Speaker 2: well that's fun, good, good for you.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I've got to I like the old
Speaker 1: older European.
Speaker 2: Car older maids.
Speaker 3: Me and Daniel have patched things up. He gave me
Speaker 3: some vigra. It was like seing an old friend haven't
Speaker 3: seen any is. Thank you, Daniel, your piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Now we should talk car news because there's some big
Speaker 1: developments this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's kick off with Lane Cruis seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was hilarious. We will sent a picture from a
Speaker 2: dealership that had a whole list of Toyota models and
Speaker 2: the estimated wait times, and then it got to the
Speaker 2: seventy series land Cruiser and the wait time was four years.
Speaker 2: Bracket might not ever happen close break it.
Speaker 1: It is a way these cars are stuck, like they've
Speaker 1: stuck in the past a little bit that they are.
Speaker 2: But Toyota has now come out and said that it's
Speaker 2: stopped taking orders because they can't they can't build them, and.
Speaker 1: It's it's weird.
Speaker 2: I think that people have seen all of this news
Speaker 2: on EV's the Act doing evs all this sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, I need to have
Speaker 2: a seventy series in my life that I can put
Speaker 2: in the shed or just drivers a daily. And the
Speaker 2: seventy series has become the new daily and trendy suburbs.
Speaker 2: You see them driving to the coffee shop and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's my car over there. I've just come from the
Speaker 2: Form instead of the Defender. So because the Defender has
Speaker 2: become outrageously expensive, so it's the new hipster to buy,
Speaker 2: which is quite funny.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a land Cruiser once upon a time
Speaker 1: was very much like the CEO's car that wants to
Speaker 1: appeal to the common mans.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Now it's like soccer mums, and the car
Speaker 2: market is so weird at the moment. People are doing
Speaker 2: weird shit. So I think now, with interest rates going
Speaker 2: up like to record high as compared to what we've
Speaker 2: been the past few years, I think that we will
Speaker 2: see things like this returning back to normal. People who
Speaker 2: had an order on one of these will go, ah,
Speaker 2: can't be bothered waiting three years. I've got to pay
Speaker 2: off the mortgage, bah bah blah. So I think in
Speaker 2: general we'll see wait times for cars slowly coming back
Speaker 2: to normal. But you know, it is an interesting development
Speaker 2: here that they've kind of stopped it for the moment.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing with these guys as well is
Speaker 2: that Toyota has spent a lot of money upgrading seventy
Speaker 2: series so that it still meets safety standards for today.
Speaker 2: So they recently fitted it with side airbags so that
Speaker 2: we get its five star crash rating. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know. I don't see the appeal in
Speaker 1: these visual It's sort of just to me, it just looks.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's a it's a farm car.
Speaker 1: It will never break down. I come from that sort
Speaker 1: of family that bought these sorts of cars, you know,
Speaker 1: But I just I look at it now and kind
Speaker 1: of go, how is there a four year wait on this?
Speaker 1: What sort of dystopian world are we living in?
Speaker 2: Yep, it is crazy. Apple has hired Lamborghini's head engineer,
Speaker 2: Luigi Tara Tara Borelli.
Speaker 1: You need to say that with more of an accent
Speaker 1: on its offensive.
Speaker 2: Luigi, you're selling my Indian doctor.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me I've got a fatty liver.
Speaker 2: So he's moved from Italy to the San Francisco Bay area,
Speaker 2: and the rumor is that he's joined Apple's secret vehicle program.
Speaker 2: And it's so funny Apple. You know that there's so
Speaker 2: many leaks that come out of Apple, and they've been
Speaker 2: working on this car now for god, for who knows?
Speaker 1: How is this the one that they Because they had
Speaker 1: investors in Uber once upon a time, I learned that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you seen that TV show? Yeh've seen that super Pumps.
Speaker 2: Which apparently wasn't real. So one of my friends, one
Speaker 2: of my friend's friends, was one of the very early employees.
Speaker 2: He was in product development and he was at Uber. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he said a lot of the stuff that was
Speaker 2: in that that Super Pump show didn't actually happen, So
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was dramatized. Oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: I also think that a lot of it was probably real.
Speaker 2: But yes, old mate was a twenty year veteran of
Speaker 2: Lamborghini and and was the head of vehicle dynamics for
Speaker 2: fourteen years. So this guy knows his shit right, So
Speaker 2: he's he's going to Apple, which which leads me to
Speaker 2: believe Apple isn't going to release a car that is
Speaker 2: just good at tech. They're going to release a car
Speaker 2: that will take on Tesla, be the fastest, blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah, self drive, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you think about Tesla, if you remove
Speaker 2: the high performance nature of those cars and the autonomy features,
Speaker 2: it's just like any other ev right. It doesn't doesn't
Speaker 2: do anything that special, but the fact that they have
Speaker 2: a cult following based on, you know, being the quickest
Speaker 2: sedan in the world and that kind thing kind of
Speaker 2: gives them something to lean on. So Apple can't just
Speaker 2: come out and have an average GV that isn't great
Speaker 2: on well, it might be great on tech, but isn't
Speaker 2: high performing or handling. So I think they really are
Speaker 2: throwing the book at this to make sure that they
Speaker 2: don't look like duds when they release this in comparison
Speaker 2: to Tesla, because they will be Tesla's main competitor.
Speaker 1: I reckon, yeah, I agree. I think Tesla, like one
Speaker 1: thing stylistically that they lean on is they're minimalist and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, and you know that that's
Speaker 1: where Apple's going to be as well. I really can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what these are going to look like.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. If I look at my phone, right,
Speaker 2: I just pay the money I don't handle. So they're
Speaker 2: already fine on price. They'll just charge whatever they want.
Speaker 2: But the only thing that concerns me is how disposable
Speaker 2: a phone is. I just hope they don't have the
Speaker 2: same mentality with their cars. A lot of Apple products
Speaker 2: are just disposable, Like when you're done with your laptop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can sell it, but a lot of people don't.
Speaker 2: They'll give it to a nephew or to parents or
Speaker 2: something like that. I just wonder if the car is
Speaker 2: going to be the same, whether they will engineer it
Speaker 2: so that it is only something you hold on to
Speaker 2: for a few years. Perhaps it'll be a lease.
Speaker 1: Imagine that, imagine waste on this. We've talked about this before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but wow, Yeah, that's a that's an interesting concept. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I wonder also that this will this have
Speaker 1: subscription services in it, like we've heard with BMW with
Speaker 1: like if you want electric seats, you can subscribe to
Speaker 1: electric seats.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it could do. And I mean you look
Speaker 2: at the phone, right. I pay fifteen bucks a month
Speaker 2: for the storage thing. I then pay the iCloud Y clouds. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I then pay fifteen bucks a month for insurance.
Speaker 1: You get insurance on that.
Speaker 2: Literally three days after I bought this, I bought a
Speaker 2: case on eBay. Three days after I got my phone,
Speaker 2: I dropped it from like this height, yeah, ten centimeters
Speaker 2: onto the table. The screen shattered into a million base
Speaker 2: and I'm like, forox sake with the case, I'm with
Speaker 2: no case because my case was still in the mail. Eventually,
Speaker 2: because I had the insurance, I sent it back to them,
Speaker 2: replaced the screen, I stuck the case on it, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to cancel the insurance because
Speaker 2: you know, I need to just leave it there because
Speaker 2: because you're a klutz, and I haven't dropped it since.
Speaker 1: It is literally just Murphy's law. So, you know, those
Speaker 1: people who don't have a phone case just worry the
Speaker 1: crap out of me. My brother in law is one
Speaker 1: of them, and he's got the most pristine phone. He's
Speaker 1: really high up in the tech world, and he just
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a case, and it bothers me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what kind of psychopath are you? You've got this amazing
Speaker 1: pristine phone with no case.
Speaker 2: You know what annoys me? I'm just looking at it now,
Speaker 2: I'm taking the case off. It is such a beautiful
Speaker 2: looking well, aside from the hemorrhoid on the back, really
Speaker 2: it is such a good looking phone that you then
Speaker 2: stick it in a case, you never get to look
Speaker 2: at it. And I've got insurance with a case that
Speaker 2: if I drop it nothing will ever happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gets rid of the case. You know what, let's
Speaker 1: still it live. Now, why have you got a case?
Speaker 2: It's been I've just thrown the case. Now watch this
Speaker 2: break within the next minute. Yeah, and I let it
Speaker 2: sit there just I can see what I think about.
Speaker 1: That, all right, So general murder is cracking down on
Speaker 1: resellers of in demand vehicles.
Speaker 2: GM in the US is basically penalizing buyers of some
Speaker 2: of its more expensive, high demand vehicles who resell them.
Speaker 2: We've seen this here in Australia with things like EV
Speaker 2: six Model three. They'll take delivery of the car listed
Speaker 2: online immediately and make some money out.
Speaker 1: Of it, Land Cruisers, all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So it's targeting buyers who purchased the new
Speaker 2: Cadillac Escalate X, Escalate V drunk on cam Butcher again,
Speaker 2: the Chevy Corvette z O six and the Hummer EV.
Speaker 2: So they're making them sign purchase agreements that prevents them
Speaker 2: from reselling within twelve months after taking delivery. Good. So, yeah, look,
Speaker 2: I think it's good as well. You know, I am
Speaker 2: in two minds. Yeah, no, I think it's good because
Speaker 2: nothing annoys me more than a brand new car being
Speaker 2: released that I'm on a three year waiting list for
Speaker 2: to then have some parts, turn around and try and
Speaker 2: resell it for thirty grand more online. It actually just
Speaker 2: per me off. So certainly for the first year of allocations,
Speaker 2: I think this is a great idea because it means
Speaker 2: that I'm not going to go try and ditch this thing.
Speaker 2: My only concern is what happens if you genuinely wanted
Speaker 2: to own a zero six and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: fell on financial troubles. Perhaps there's a clause if you
Speaker 2: can prove that you're doing it tough, or you sell
Speaker 2: it for the price you paid for it, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think there's going to
Speaker 1: have to be something like that. I mean, surely if
Speaker 1: you can't make if your cars on finance and you
Speaker 1: can't make repayments, you know that's going to have to happen.
Speaker 1: But as you said, like if you are going to
Speaker 1: resell it, there possibly needs to be kind of okay,
Speaker 1: but it's capped.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Look, contact at the Drive Show dot com
Speaker 2: dot au, send us an email or hit us up
Speaker 2: on social. Let us know what you think about this.
Speaker 2: Should they do this in Australia. We do see a
Speaker 2: lot of this happening recently, so I'd be curious to
Speaker 2: see what people think on that.
Speaker 1: My old man finally got his land Cruiser. Ah and yeah,
Speaker 1: basically the exact same one was in the showroom selling
Speaker 1: for thirty grand more than what he paid. Thirty grand.
Speaker 1: I said, Dad, that's the dealer who's bought that off
Speaker 1: a customer and has resold it like that's that's that's.
Speaker 2: Pretty shit for no one wins out of that, And
Speaker 2: I do wonder does anyone dealer out of that? But
Speaker 2: does anyone actually pay the thirty grand? I wonder if
Speaker 2: what the dealer does is they listed at thirty grand extra,
Speaker 2: but they settle on twenty grand extra, so you feel
Speaker 2: like you got a deal, but they've still gained twenty grand.
Speaker 1: I feel like you could dub them in over that.
Speaker 2: But some people don't care, like Ford dealers with Ranger.
Speaker 2: Some were trying to charge customers six grand deal delivery
Speaker 2: fee even though the last deal of delivery fee they
Speaker 2: charged was like fifteen hundred bucks. And we complained to
Speaker 2: Ford and Ford was like, oh, well shop around. It's like,
Speaker 2: well I can't. That guy's got my order and he'll
Speaker 2: just give it to someone else. Like the shop around
Speaker 2: things bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much a dealer discretion, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's your brand. I mean, yes, it's their business,
Speaker 2: but ultimately it's your brand, your reputation at stake here
Speaker 2: because of some dealer who wants to make a quick buck.
Speaker 2: It's like, just be good, don't be shit you'll actually
Speaker 2: make money in the business.
Speaker 1: Speaking of GM man, that Hummer EV looks good.
Speaker 2: How good is it?
Speaker 1: I love it?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's to be a heavy bugger too, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fat little bugger to get down the roads actually.
Speaker 2: With you and it No, but it would be I
Speaker 2: literally several guffles. I'm going down the I literally drove
Speaker 2: you here, So don't clean your keys around.
Speaker 1: I have no way to get home. I'll actually be
Speaker 1: standing outside this studio. You can finish the rest of
Speaker 1: the show and like, so, how's about that? Left home?
Speaker 2: So with the hummery V, it's actually so heavy that
Speaker 2: it falls into a light truck category and it has
Speaker 2: to have a specific set of lights on the front
Speaker 2: that sort of designated as being a light truck for
Speaker 2: oncoming traffic. That's how heavy it is.
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous crazy. Is that that's coming here? Right?
Speaker 2: TBC. Yeah, it's another one of these cars that can
Speaker 2: barely make enough off for the States. So they're probably
Speaker 2: not looking to export anything in the near future at all.
Speaker 1: We should talk Kia Nero wait for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The twenty twenty three Kia Neuro prices start from sixty
Speaker 4: five thousand three hundred dollars for the Entry neuro S
Speaker 4: and seventy two thousand, one hundred dollars for the tops
Speaker 4: back GT line. Here we review both.
Speaker 1: All right, So the twenty twenty three what are you
Speaker 1: laughing at?
Speaker 2: I'm laughing when we get to the price, because you
Speaker 2: were trying to guess the price of the car that
Speaker 2: I picked you up in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Kia twenty twenty three Kya Niro. I
Speaker 1: had the h ev yep S.
Speaker 2: This is the base one, which is base so forty
Speaker 2: four three hundred.
Speaker 1: Forty four, three hundred and eighty dollars with the five
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars extra for Perrimo paint.
Speaker 2: Now, the one that I picked you up in was
Speaker 2: the Topspec EV before on road costs seventy two thousand
Speaker 2: and one hundred. I mean, you have got to be kidding, right,
Speaker 2: that is insane.
Speaker 1: Even for the one that I had for forty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Forty five thousand dollars for a hybrid gets you a
Speaker 2: RAB four hybrid.
Speaker 1: And that's not even that's not even drive away.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's the thing. I think Kia has really
Speaker 2: missed the mark here with pricing for Nero. And look,
Speaker 2: it does launch in Australia very soon after Europe, which
Speaker 2: doesn't often happen. And it's also the first car to
Speaker 2: debut care Connect, which is their phone app, so you
Speaker 2: can interact with the car. Great good, but it's late.
Speaker 2: A lot of other brands have had this for a
Speaker 2: long time now. Yeah, the reason I think it's so
Speaker 2: expensive seventy two grand for the vehicle that I picked
Speaker 2: you up in the full electric. Yeah, it's not overly quick,
Speaker 2: So it's one hundred and fifty killer what's two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty five newton meters batteries sixty four killo what hours?
Speaker 2: Driving range of about four hundred and sixty kilometers on
Speaker 2: the on the cycle. But to put that pricing into perspective,
Speaker 2: if you were to have a look at something like
Speaker 2: a Tesla Model three, Tesla Model three in its entry
Speaker 2: level trem will do about that range in terms of driving.
Speaker 2: And then in addition to that, it comes with all
Speaker 2: of the bells and whistles in terms of features as standard,
Speaker 2: even in the base model that's sixty five five hundred,
Speaker 2: so it's six seven grand cheaper than that. Nero.
Speaker 1: It's not a particularly big car. It's price aside for
Speaker 1: one second, in terms of the base, I would say,
Speaker 1: there's a nice, cheap, cheerful car that a grandma would drive.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It's that it's not cheap.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's not at all. And it's it's basically
Speaker 1: sits on a ConA platform. Right, So that's sort of
Speaker 1: going to give you a bit of size perspective. I mean,
Speaker 1: this car was really stripped back, really stripped back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It didn't even have that cute little stripe on on
Speaker 1: the outside that yours has. It was just the black
Speaker 1: pearl paints. Actually, funny story, right, I live in quite
Speaker 1: a They said to me, please take care of this
Speaker 1: car because it's going to a showroom as a like
Speaker 1: a showroom piece sort of thing in two weeks, so
Speaker 1: try not to scratch this one. I never park these
Speaker 1: cars outside. I parked them in my garage. So that
Speaker 1: particular day, that particular night, I had a hell of
Speaker 1: a day. I'm like, I'm just gonna park this outside
Speaker 1: rather than move all the cars and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: I'm going to park it out in the street. So
Speaker 1: the next morning I wake up and I live in
Speaker 1: quite a sort of a quiet suburb. The next morning
Speaker 1: there is a ASX, a Mitsubishi ASX on its roof.
Speaker 1: What I live in a street that you can only
Speaker 1: do forty k's there's speed limit, there's speed humps and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and there is a ASX on its roof.
Speaker 1: Had gone that fast? Flipped and obviously cars are parked
Speaker 1: around the side street scraped three cars fairly brand new,
Speaker 1: pretty much used Volkswagen Golf type are to stop. And
Speaker 1: my car was missed by a meter or two. I
Speaker 1: did say pictures of it.
Speaker 2: I had no idea this show me.
Speaker 1: The well, I hang on, I've got to go through
Speaker 1: the I've got to get through all these pictures of
Speaker 1: the women's soccer team. First, I'm not even joking.
Speaker 2: I know you're not disturbing, but so what happened? How
Speaker 2: did the car end up there? Did they find the
Speaker 2: person or did the police kids?
Speaker 1: It wasn't a stolen car, it was a local car.
Speaker 2: They just had a few venos. It was a soccer team.
Speaker 1: So so so.
Speaker 2: Okay, show me this. I'm very curious to see this.
Speaker 2: So holy crap, look at that is unbelievable. I don't
Speaker 2: even understand how that happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, as you can see this sort of car
Speaker 1: and is that the Nero. There's another car there, and
Speaker 1: then there's money.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that is crazy.
Speaker 1: That's a brand new ConA.
Speaker 2: Wow, and it's hit that yeah wow, Okay interesting. So
Speaker 2: let's put these pictures up on social so people can
Speaker 2: see that that is crazy. I don't even know you
Speaker 2: could get fast enough in an ax to roll it.
Speaker 1: The thing is people will argue, oh, you can easily
Speaker 1: roll a car if it hits a curb, even at
Speaker 1: low speeds. That street is full of cars around the side.
Speaker 1: There's no curve to hit, so it's a very gentle
Speaker 1: bend at forty kilometers an hour that person would have
Speaker 1: and it happened at twenty past six in the morning.
Speaker 1: That someone has just.
Speaker 2: Like someone going to work.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's a someone someone's either gone to
Speaker 1: work or had a big night on the piss. But
Speaker 1: look that the area that I live in is very
Speaker 1: much Wanderon Valley. Everyone knows everyone else's business, and that
Speaker 1: person's known to be an absolute hone in a freak
Speaker 1: in an ass a ex Mitch Subishi.
Speaker 2: It's disturbing.
Speaker 1: Shit, it's weird. Ryan God anyway, So I've really looked
Speaker 1: after this car.
Speaker 2: Yeah it looks like it but yeah, look, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just wasn't really blown away with it. It's Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is just disappointing that it's It just feels like
Speaker 2: a low effort thing. And I think they've gone so
Speaker 2: aggressive with the pricing because they're hoping that people who
Speaker 2: wanted an EV six but don't want to wait two
Speaker 2: or three years will basically just go buy one of
Speaker 2: these instead. It's seventy two grand because it is comparable
Speaker 2: to EV six Base, so I think they're just trying
Speaker 2: to milk it a little bit while they can. It
Speaker 2: does come with a lot of features and stuff, but
Speaker 2: I just don't feel that it's worth seventy two grand
Speaker 2: for the top spec one that I was driving, the
Speaker 2: one you were driving with the hybrid technology. It is efficient,
Speaker 2: like it's four leaders per one hundred ks on the
Speaker 2: combined cycle, which is fine. So if it is ultimately
Speaker 2: efficiency that you're after, that's not a problem.
Speaker 1: But not for forty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that price, you're really close to four hybrid,
Speaker 2: which uses about the same amount of fuel. Is bigger
Speaker 2: better better?
Speaker 1: Tech better pretty much everything. It's it's so interesting that
Speaker 1: they've priced this so high.
Speaker 2: It's cars are becoming expensive. If you look at other manufacturers,
Speaker 2: everyone is jacking their prices up. We almost are now
Speaker 2: full time writing updated pricing stories on cars because every
Speaker 2: week manufacturers will up their prices, removed features, semiconductors, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. So I think it'll keep going for a
Speaker 2: little bit longer. We won't see prices stabilizing for a
Speaker 2: little while, but as demand on the used car market subsides,
Speaker 2: we probably will see less demand for new cars because
Speaker 2: you'll go, well, I'm just going to go buy a
Speaker 2: used car that it is just so expensive now to
Speaker 2: buy a new car that it's just not worth it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's my argument. I mean, for let's say, let's
Speaker 1: say fifty thousand dollars, If you want to take that
Speaker 1: and realistically a mum and dad aren't going to go,
Speaker 1: I really want a hybrid. I need a car I
Speaker 1: need to put a couple of kids in. Would I
Speaker 1: go this base model Key and Nero for fifty thousand,
Speaker 1: or would I go a Sportage with a few more
Speaker 1: bells and whistles. It might not be hybrid, but who cares.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're really gonna want a hybrid to pay
Speaker 2: that kind of money. So yeah, a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to Kea, but I feel.
Speaker 1: Like hybrid's at the moment are just priced way out.
Speaker 1: We spoke about the mg what was it, the MG
Speaker 1: HS plus plus EV which was fifty thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: that's just that was to me, that wasn't bang for
Speaker 1: your buck at all.
Speaker 2: No, definitely not.
Speaker 1: That MG is renowned for bang for your buck really,
Speaker 1: and that just doesn't fit in with what they've been
Speaker 1: doing at all. What should we review next? I want
Speaker 1: you to set me a challenge. I need you just
Speaker 1: sent me another. Maybe maybe show up without food next episode?
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying it to have a heart attack between now
Speaker 2: and our next episode.
Speaker 1: How's that for a challenge.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't fat shame.
Speaker 1: I think I've got earn I shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm going to be a new man next episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose three kilos by next episode, probably
Speaker 1: because I just took a shit.
Speaker 2: Go drive a jeep. I just drove the Jeep Grand
Speaker 2: Cherokee l and that was an alarming experience. Is that
Speaker 2: the really expensive one they've just released. Yeah, right, one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen grand for the one that I drove. Well, actually,
Speaker 2: email us contact at the Drive show dot com dot
Speaker 2: are you what do you want us to review? We
Speaker 2: will be guided by you, guys. We want to know
Speaker 2: what you want us to review. Yeah, because I'm curious
Speaker 2: what people think and what they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll drive a jeep. I'll do a jeep. Okay,
Speaker 1: and can it be any can I pick?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want it to be that big luxury
Speaker 1: thing just looked like a bit of a waste of money.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be wrong on that.
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifteen thousand, right.
Speaker 2: The Summit Reserve sounds like a penfolds wine.
Speaker 1: I don't I need a wine.
Speaker 2: I need a wine to go with this bacon egg
Speaker 2: wine at the start of every episode.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I know why you're friends with Trevor.
Speaker 2: Did he try and see you? In between our last
Speaker 2: couple of episodes?
Speaker 1: There was a letter and you know what I did.
Speaker 1: I sent, I wiped my ass with it, and I
Speaker 1: returned it to him. I said, stick this on the fridge.
Speaker 1: That your review anyway?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so fine. I'm going to finalize
Speaker 1: that Jeep episode coming up, because here's the thing I
Speaker 1: quite like. I've always liked Jeeps. I know they went
Speaker 1: through a terrible, terrible phase.
Speaker 2: When did that end well? To me?
Speaker 1: Jeeps are one of those companies that you want them
Speaker 1: to do well. Yeah, they just never just ah, I
Speaker 1: pulled my hair out.
Speaker 2: I feel about you. I just want you to do
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Speaker 2: In our next episode, I will report back on how
Speaker 2: that goes okay, what a shit challenge.