1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: So this episode is going to have a musical beginning 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: and Paul is going to freestyle wrap. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: I can I just say before that happens, you look 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: quite disheveled today. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: Thanks, What has happened to you over the past twenty 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: four hours? 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I slept with your maid ah. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Which one? I was a bloken of female. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: The one, the one in the left wing of the house. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: She is a lefty as well. 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought his name was Stephen Jesus. Let's just 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: say he really dusted the gobwebs. Have you been. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Just living the dream? I picked you up today from 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: a house. 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: In yeah, a Kia, in a Kia. You picked me 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: up in a keya Nero multi colored. So the interesting 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: thing is we're going to talk about this car a 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: bit later on, obviously. But you had the full electric 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and I had the we and it was a deliberate move. 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: We wanted to give you the whole range. I had 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: the very the most basic you could get, and I 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: generally would I'm such a bitch like this, I'll turn 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: my nose up at any any base model. I'm like, no, 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: thank you, no no. But this she was a basic bitch. 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the entertainment system was not. There was zero entertainment. 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: There was barely a system. It was more of a 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: doss program. It was anyway. We'll talk about that later on, 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: but thanks for the pickup. We did stop for snacks. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: That was. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: I've noticed a theme with you and snacks. You kind 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: of you just don't stop. 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: It's called diabetes. 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called not helping your diabetes. 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what this is? I legit. Had a 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: conversation with my doctor this week. He had the conversation 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: with me of you need to lose weight. You've put 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: on twenty plus kilos in three years. 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him to you change doctors and media 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: changed doctors. The best one is the best one is 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: like the Indian doctor is my favorite one because he's like, 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: according to the what do you call the thing the 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: cat scan thing of the ultrasound, Yeah, according to the 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: ultra do you look pregnant? You have a fatty liver. 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, is that something I should worry about? No? No, no, no, 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Why I have a fatty liver like a wane? Don't 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: you worry? I think I'm gonna have to go on 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: some sort of a weight loss journey. 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: Because I can looking across the table now I can 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: say that clearly hasn't started with a half et and 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: bacon roll in a cookie. 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: You should judge me less. Yeah, what fun cars have 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: you been looking at this week? I've been looking at 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: a lot of classic cars. Actually, oh I've been. Yeah, 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: I've been a classic car shopping Oh for what? Well, 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, youngs ago we were talking about cars we 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: wish we'd we'd driven, which is on a wish list, 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: And one of the cars that I brought up was 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a Toyota Century. Oh yes, I be twelve. Yeah right, 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: and there's a couple out on the market moment, and 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: I figure, with fuel prices the way they are, why. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: The hell not go all in? How much are we talking? Oh? 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: I think this particular one was about forty eight. 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: Wow, they are still expensive. 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: That's pretty cheap. 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: Now, hold on, is this and you're an old century? 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Oh it's not brand new, it's an old one. It's 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: like twenty hour. 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know they were that expensive. Yeah, oh, I 72 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: thought they were like fifteen grand. No, this is I like, 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: I've got a certain standard. I know you don't like 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: bass cars. 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: I just think it'd be fun there's just a lot 76 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: of European classic cars at the moment that have I 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: feel like that they're not as well. The price hike 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: on them isn't as much as say a secondhand car 79 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: from the last couple of years, do you know what 80 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean? So at the moment you can get like 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: a reasonable European could be a bloody Maserati for instance, 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: for a pretty good price. 83 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I actually saw randomly where was I. I 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: was driving the Mitsubishi Outlander plug in hybrid from the 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: launch in Adelaide back to Melbourne and I stopped in 86 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Horsham to charge the car and a new Toyota Century 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: drove past, but like a new, new one. And I'm 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: just I'm actually just googling it now because that's what 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: surprised me. It was. I think it was a century. Yeah, 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: it was like a new one. I thought it was 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: really interesting that. 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Have you seen? They don't really do them here. But 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: the Toyota Crown overseas was always like the especially if 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: you're in an Asian country, it was always the taxi 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: cab car. You know, whether you be in Hong Kong 96 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: or Singapore or something like that. It was a Toyota Crown. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: So I've seen this new Toyota Crown that they've released. 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: I saw that bees Yeah, I did see that as well. 99 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: That that looks good drawings. Yeah, that looks really cool. 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, look, I think it's yeah that those cars 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: have an interesting niche and I think the fact that 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: they're still so expensive just shows you that how in 103 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: demand they are. A lot of people don't understand that 104 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: when importing a car, it may be cheap overseas, but 105 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: by the time you get it here, get it compliance 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: and repaxes and there is so much money just dropped 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: into a black hole that you never get back. So yeah, 108 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: well that's fun, good, good for you. 109 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Just you know, I've got to I like the old 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: older European. 111 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: Car older maids. 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: Me and Daniel have patched things up. He gave me 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: some vigra. It was like seing an old friend haven't 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: seen any is. Thank you, Daniel, your piece of ship. 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: Now we should talk car news because there's some big 116 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: developments this week. 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's kick off with Lane Cruis seventies. Yeah, 118 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: it was hilarious. We will sent a picture from a 119 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: dealership that had a whole list of Toyota models and 120 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: the estimated wait times, and then it got to the 121 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: seventy series land Cruiser and the wait time was four years. 122 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: Bracket might not ever happen close break it. 123 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: It is a way these cars are stuck, like they've 124 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: stuck in the past a little bit that they are. 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: But Toyota has now come out and said that it's 126 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: stopped taking orders because they can't they can't build them, and. 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: It's it's weird. 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: I think that people have seen all of this news 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: on EV's the Act doing evs all this sort of stuff, 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, I need to have 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: a seventy series in my life that I can put 132 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: in the shed or just drivers a daily. And the 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: seventy series has become the new daily and trendy suburbs. 134 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: You see them driving to the coffee shop and they're like, oh, 135 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: that's my car over there. I've just come from the 136 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Form instead of the Defender. So because the Defender has 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: become outrageously expensive, so it's the new hipster to buy, 138 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: which is quite funny. 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, there was a land Cruiser once upon a time 140 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: was very much like the CEO's car that wants to 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: appeal to the common mans. 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Now it's like soccer mums, and the car 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: market is so weird at the moment. People are doing 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: weird shit. So I think now, with interest rates going 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: up like to record high as compared to what we've 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: been the past few years, I think that we will 147 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: see things like this returning back to normal. People who 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: had an order on one of these will go, ah, 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: can't be bothered waiting three years. I've got to pay 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: off the mortgage, bah bah blah. So I think in 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: general we'll see wait times for cars slowly coming back 152 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: to normal. But you know, it is an interesting development 153 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: here that they've kind of stopped it for the moment. 154 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: And the funny thing with these guys as well is 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: that Toyota has spent a lot of money upgrading seventy 156 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: series so that it still meets safety standards for today. 157 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: So they recently fitted it with side airbags so that 158 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: we get its five star crash rating. Yeah. 159 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Just I don't know. I don't see the appeal in 160 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: these visual It's sort of just to me, it just looks. 161 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's a it's a farm car. 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: It will never break down. I come from that sort 163 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: of family that bought these sorts of cars, you know, 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: But I just I look at it now and kind 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: of go, how is there a four year wait on this? 166 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: What sort of dystopian world are we living in? 167 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: Yep, it is crazy. Apple has hired Lamborghini's head engineer, 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: Luigi Tara Tara Borelli. 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: You need to say that with more of an accent 170 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: on its offensive. 171 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Luigi, you're selling my Indian doctor. 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me I've got a fatty liver. 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: So he's moved from Italy to the San Francisco Bay area, 174 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: and the rumor is that he's joined Apple's secret vehicle program. 175 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: And it's so funny Apple. You know that there's so 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: many leaks that come out of Apple, and they've been 177 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: working on this car now for god, for who knows? 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: How is this the one that they Because they had 179 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: investors in Uber once upon a time, I learned that, Yeah, 180 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: have you seen that TV show? Yeh've seen that super Pumps. 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Which apparently wasn't real. So one of my friends, one 182 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: of my friend's friends, was one of the very early employees. 183 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: He was in product development and he was at Uber. Yeah, 184 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: and he said a lot of the stuff that was 185 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: in that that Super Pump show didn't actually happen, So 186 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was dramatized. Oh god, yeah, 187 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: I also think that a lot of it was probably real. 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: But yes, old mate was a twenty year veteran of 189 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Lamborghini and and was the head of vehicle dynamics for 190 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: fourteen years. So this guy knows his shit right, So 191 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: he's he's going to Apple, which which leads me to 192 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: believe Apple isn't going to release a car that is 193 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: just good at tech. They're going to release a car 194 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: that will take on Tesla, be the fastest, blah blah. 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Blah, self drive, all that sort of stuff. 196 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you think about Tesla, if you remove 197 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: the high performance nature of those cars and the autonomy features, 198 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: it's just like any other ev right. It doesn't doesn't 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: do anything that special, but the fact that they have 200 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: a cult following based on, you know, being the quickest 201 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: sedan in the world and that kind thing kind of 202 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: gives them something to lean on. So Apple can't just 203 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: come out and have an average GV that isn't great 204 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: on well, it might be great on tech, but isn't 205 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: high performing or handling. So I think they really are 206 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: throwing the book at this to make sure that they 207 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: don't look like duds when they release this in comparison 208 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: to Tesla, because they will be Tesla's main competitor. 209 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I reckon, yeah, I agree. I think Tesla, like one 210 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: thing stylistically that they lean on is they're minimalist and 211 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, and you know that that's 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: where Apple's going to be as well. I really can't 213 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: wait to see what these are going to look like. 214 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. If I look at my phone, right, 215 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: I just pay the money I don't handle. So they're 216 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: already fine on price. They'll just charge whatever they want. 217 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: But the only thing that concerns me is how disposable 218 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: a phone is. I just hope they don't have the 219 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: same mentality with their cars. A lot of Apple products 220 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: are just disposable, Like when you're done with your laptop. Yeah, 221 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: you can sell it, but a lot of people don't. 222 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: They'll give it to a nephew or to parents or 223 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 2: something like that. I just wonder if the car is 224 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: going to be the same, whether they will engineer it 225 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: so that it is only something you hold on to 226 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: for a few years. Perhaps it'll be a lease. 227 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Imagine that, imagine waste on this. We've talked about this before. Yeah, 228 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: but wow, Yeah, that's a that's an interesting concept. It's 229 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: funny because I wonder also that this will this have 230 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: subscription services in it, like we've heard with BMW with 231 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: like if you want electric seats, you can subscribe to 232 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: electric seats. 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it could do. And I mean you look 234 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: at the phone, right. I pay fifteen bucks a month 235 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: for the storage thing. I then pay the iCloud Y clouds. Yeah, 236 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 2: I then pay fifteen bucks a month for insurance. 237 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: You get insurance on that. 238 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: Literally three days after I bought this, I bought a 239 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: case on eBay. Three days after I got my phone, 240 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: I dropped it from like this height, yeah, ten centimeters 241 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: onto the table. The screen shattered into a million base 242 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, forox sake with the case, I'm with 243 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: no case because my case was still in the mail. Eventually, 244 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: because I had the insurance, I sent it back to them, 245 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: replaced the screen, I stuck the case on it, and 246 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to cancel the insurance because 247 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: you know, I need to just leave it there because 248 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: because you're a klutz, and I haven't dropped it since. 249 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: It is literally just Murphy's law. So, you know, those 250 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: people who don't have a phone case just worry the 251 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: crap out of me. My brother in law is one 252 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: of them, and he's got the most pristine phone. He's 253 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: really high up in the tech world, and he just 254 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a case, and it bothers me. I'm like, 255 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: what kind of psychopath are you? You've got this amazing 256 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: pristine phone with no case. 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: You know what annoys me? I'm just looking at it now, 258 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm taking the case off. It is such a beautiful 259 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: looking well, aside from the hemorrhoid on the back, really 260 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: it is such a good looking phone that you then 261 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: stick it in a case, you never get to look 262 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: at it. And I've got insurance with a case that 263 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: if I drop it nothing will ever happen. 264 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, gets rid of the case. You know what, let's 265 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: still it live. Now, why have you got a case? 266 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: It's been I've just thrown the case. Now watch this 267 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: break within the next minute. Yeah, and I let it 268 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: sit there just I can see what I think about. 269 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: That, all right, So general murder is cracking down on 270 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: resellers of in demand vehicles. 271 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: GM in the US is basically penalizing buyers of some 272 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: of its more expensive, high demand vehicles who resell them. 273 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: We've seen this here in Australia with things like EV 274 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: six Model three. They'll take delivery of the car listed 275 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: online immediately and make some money out. 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Of it, Land Cruisers, all of them. 277 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So it's targeting buyers who purchased the new 278 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Cadillac Escalate X, Escalate V drunk on cam Butcher again, 279 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: the Chevy Corvette z O six and the Hummer EV. 280 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: So they're making them sign purchase agreements that prevents them 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: from reselling within twelve months after taking delivery. Good. So, yeah, look, 282 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: I think it's good as well. You know, I am 283 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: in two minds. Yeah, no, I think it's good because 284 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: nothing annoys me more than a brand new car being 285 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: released that I'm on a three year waiting list for 286 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: to then have some parts, turn around and try and 287 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: resell it for thirty grand more online. It actually just 288 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: per me off. So certainly for the first year of allocations, 289 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: I think this is a great idea because it means 290 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: that I'm not going to go try and ditch this thing. 291 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: My only concern is what happens if you genuinely wanted 292 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: to own a zero six and all of a sudden 293 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: fell on financial troubles. Perhaps there's a clause if you 294 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: can prove that you're doing it tough, or you sell 295 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: it for the price you paid for it, it's okay. 296 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think there's going to 297 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: have to be something like that. I mean, surely if 298 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: you can't make if your cars on finance and you 299 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: can't make repayments, you know that's going to have to happen. 300 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: But as you said, like if you are going to 301 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: resell it, there possibly needs to be kind of okay, 302 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: but it's capped. 303 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Look, contact at the Drive Show dot com 304 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: dot au, send us an email or hit us up 305 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: on social. Let us know what you think about this. 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Should they do this in Australia. We do see a 307 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: lot of this happening recently, so I'd be curious to 308 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: see what people think on that. 309 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: My old man finally got his land Cruiser. Ah and yeah, 310 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: basically the exact same one was in the showroom selling 311 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: for thirty grand more than what he paid. Thirty grand. 312 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I said, Dad, that's the dealer who's bought that off 313 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: a customer and has resold it like that's that's that's. 314 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Pretty shit for no one wins out of that, And 315 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: I do wonder does anyone dealer out of that? But 316 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: does anyone actually pay the thirty grand? I wonder if 317 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: what the dealer does is they listed at thirty grand extra, 318 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: but they settle on twenty grand extra, so you feel 319 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: like you got a deal, but they've still gained twenty grand. 320 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you could dub them in over that. 321 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: But some people don't care, like Ford dealers with Ranger. 322 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Some were trying to charge customers six grand deal delivery 323 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: fee even though the last deal of delivery fee they 324 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: charged was like fifteen hundred bucks. And we complained to 325 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: Ford and Ford was like, oh, well shop around. It's like, 326 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: well I can't. That guy's got my order and he'll 327 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: just give it to someone else. Like the shop around 328 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: things bullshit. 329 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: That's pretty much a dealer discretion, right. 330 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's your brand. I mean, yes, it's their business, 331 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: but ultimately it's your brand, your reputation at stake here 332 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: because of some dealer who wants to make a quick buck. 333 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: It's like, just be good, don't be shit you'll actually 334 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: make money in the business. 335 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of GM man, that Hummer EV looks good. 336 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: How good is it? 337 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I love it? 338 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 339 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: She's to be a heavy bugger too, isn't it. Yeah, 340 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: fat little bugger to get down the roads actually. 341 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: With you and it No, but it would be I 342 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: literally several guffles. I'm going down the I literally drove 343 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: you here, So don't clean your keys around. 344 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: I have no way to get home. I'll actually be 345 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: standing outside this studio. You can finish the rest of 346 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: the show and like, so, how's about that? Left home? 347 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: So with the hummery V, it's actually so heavy that 348 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: it falls into a light truck category and it has 349 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: to have a specific set of lights on the front 350 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: that sort of designated as being a light truck for 351 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: oncoming traffic. That's how heavy it is. 352 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous crazy. Is that that's coming here? Right? 353 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: TBC. Yeah, it's another one of these cars that can 354 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: barely make enough off for the States. So they're probably 355 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: not looking to export anything in the near future at all. 356 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: We should talk Kia Nero wait for it. Yeah. 357 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: The twenty twenty three Kia Neuro prices start from sixty 358 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: five thousand three hundred dollars for the Entry neuro S 359 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: and seventy two thousand, one hundred dollars for the tops 360 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: back GT line. Here we review both. 361 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: All right, So the twenty twenty three what are you 362 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: laughing at? 363 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: I'm laughing when we get to the price, because you 364 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: were trying to guess the price of the car that 365 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: I picked you up in. 366 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Kia twenty twenty three Kya Niro. I 367 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: had the h ev yep S. 368 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: This is the base one, which is base so forty 369 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: four three hundred. 370 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: Forty four, three hundred and eighty dollars with the five 371 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars extra for Perrimo paint. 372 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: Now, the one that I picked you up in was 373 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: the Topspec EV before on road costs seventy two thousand 374 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: and one hundred. I mean, you have got to be kidding, right, 375 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: that is insane. 376 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Even for the one that I had for forty five 377 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 378 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: Forty five thousand dollars for a hybrid gets you a 379 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: RAB four hybrid. 380 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: And that's not even that's not even drive away. 381 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's the thing. I think Kia has really 382 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: missed the mark here with pricing for Nero. And look, 383 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: it does launch in Australia very soon after Europe, which 384 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: doesn't often happen. And it's also the first car to 385 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: debut care Connect, which is their phone app, so you 386 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: can interact with the car. Great good, but it's late. 387 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: A lot of other brands have had this for a 388 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: long time now. Yeah, the reason I think it's so 389 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: expensive seventy two grand for the vehicle that I picked 390 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: you up in the full electric. Yeah, it's not overly quick, 391 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: So it's one hundred and fifty killer what's two hundred 392 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: and fifty five newton meters batteries sixty four killo what hours? 393 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 2: Driving range of about four hundred and sixty kilometers on 394 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: the on the cycle. But to put that pricing into perspective, 395 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: if you were to have a look at something like 396 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: a Tesla Model three, Tesla Model three in its entry 397 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: level trem will do about that range in terms of driving. 398 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: And then in addition to that, it comes with all 399 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: of the bells and whistles in terms of features as standard, 400 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: even in the base model that's sixty five five hundred, 401 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: so it's six seven grand cheaper than that. Nero. 402 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: It's not a particularly big car. It's price aside for 403 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: one second, in terms of the base, I would say, 404 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: there's a nice, cheap, cheerful car that a grandma would drive. 405 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 406 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: It's that it's not cheap. 407 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: No, it's it's not at all. And it's it's basically 408 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: sits on a ConA platform. Right, So that's sort of 409 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: going to give you a bit of size perspective. I mean, 410 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: this car was really stripped back, really stripped back. 411 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: You know. 412 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: It didn't even have that cute little stripe on on 413 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: the outside that yours has. It was just the black 414 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: pearl paints. Actually, funny story, right, I live in quite 415 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a They said to me, please take care of this 416 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: car because it's going to a showroom as a like 417 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: a showroom piece sort of thing in two weeks, so 418 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: try not to scratch this one. I never park these 419 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: cars outside. I parked them in my garage. So that 420 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: particular day, that particular night, I had a hell of 421 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: a day. I'm like, I'm just gonna park this outside 422 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: rather than move all the cars and stuff like that, 423 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to park it out in the street. So 424 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the next morning I wake up and I live in 425 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: quite a sort of a quiet suburb. The next morning 426 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: there is a ASX, a Mitsubishi ASX on its roof. 427 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: What I live in a street that you can only 428 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: do forty k's there's speed limit, there's speed humps and 429 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and there is a ASX on its roof. 430 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Had gone that fast? Flipped and obviously cars are parked 431 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: around the side street scraped three cars fairly brand new, 432 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: pretty much used Volkswagen Golf type are to stop. And 433 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: my car was missed by a meter or two. I 434 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: did say pictures of it. 435 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: I had no idea this show me. 436 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: The well, I hang on, I've got to go through 437 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: the I've got to get through all these pictures of 438 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: the women's soccer team. First, I'm not even joking. 439 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: I know you're not disturbing, but so what happened? How 440 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: did the car end up there? Did they find the 441 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: person or did the police kids? 442 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't a stolen car, it was a local car. 443 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: They just had a few venos. It was a soccer team. 444 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: So so so. 445 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, show me this. I'm very curious to see this. 446 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: So holy crap, look at that is unbelievable. I don't 447 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: even understand how that happened. 448 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: I mean, as you can see this sort of car 449 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: and is that the Nero. There's another car there, and 450 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: then there's money. 451 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh god, that is crazy. 452 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: That's a brand new ConA. 453 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: Wow, and it's hit that yeah wow, Okay interesting. So 454 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: let's put these pictures up on social so people can 455 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: see that that is crazy. I don't even know you 456 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: could get fast enough in an ax to roll it. 457 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: The thing is people will argue, oh, you can easily 458 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: roll a car if it hits a curb, even at 459 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: low speeds. That street is full of cars around the side. 460 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: There's no curve to hit, so it's a very gentle 461 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: bend at forty kilometers an hour that person would have 462 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: and it happened at twenty past six in the morning. 463 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: That someone has just. 464 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Like someone going to work. 465 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: It's not like it's a someone someone's either gone to 466 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: work or had a big night on the piss. But 467 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: look that the area that I live in is very 468 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: much Wanderon Valley. Everyone knows everyone else's business, and that 469 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: person's known to be an absolute hone in a freak 470 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: in an ass a ex Mitch Subishi. 471 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: It's disturbing. 472 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: Shit, it's weird. Ryan God anyway, So I've really looked 473 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: after this car. 474 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah it looks like it but yeah, look, I don't know. 475 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: I just wasn't really blown away with it. It's Yeah, 476 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: it is just disappointing that it's It just feels like 477 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: a low effort thing. And I think they've gone so 478 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: aggressive with the pricing because they're hoping that people who 479 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: wanted an EV six but don't want to wait two 480 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: or three years will basically just go buy one of 481 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: these instead. It's seventy two grand because it is comparable 482 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: to EV six Base, so I think they're just trying 483 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: to milk it a little bit while they can. It 484 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: does come with a lot of features and stuff, but 485 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: I just don't feel that it's worth seventy two grand 486 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: for the top spec one that I was driving, the 487 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: one you were driving with the hybrid technology. It is efficient, 488 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: like it's four leaders per one hundred ks on the 489 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: combined cycle, which is fine. So if it is ultimately 490 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: efficiency that you're after, that's not a problem. 491 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: But not for forty five thousand dollars. 492 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, at that price, you're really close to four hybrid, 493 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: which uses about the same amount of fuel. Is bigger 494 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: better better? 495 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Tech better pretty much everything. It's it's so interesting that 496 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: they've priced this so high. 497 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: It's cars are becoming expensive. If you look at other manufacturers, 498 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: everyone is jacking their prices up. We almost are now 499 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: full time writing updated pricing stories on cars because every 500 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: week manufacturers will up their prices, removed features, semiconductors, blah 501 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: blah blah. So I think it'll keep going for a 502 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: little bit longer. We won't see prices stabilizing for a 503 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: little while, but as demand on the used car market subsides, 504 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: we probably will see less demand for new cars because 505 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: you'll go, well, I'm just going to go buy a 506 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: used car that it is just so expensive now to 507 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: buy a new car that it's just not worth it. 508 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, that's my argument. I mean, for let's say, let's 509 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: say fifty thousand dollars, If you want to take that 510 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: and realistically a mum and dad aren't going to go, 511 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: I really want a hybrid. I need a car I 512 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: need to put a couple of kids in. Would I 513 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: go this base model Key and Nero for fifty thousand, 514 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: or would I go a Sportage with a few more 515 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: bells and whistles. It might not be hybrid, but who cares. 516 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're really gonna want a hybrid to pay 517 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: that kind of money. So yeah, a little bit disappointing. 518 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to Kea, but I feel. 519 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: Like hybrid's at the moment are just priced way out. 520 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: We spoke about the mg what was it, the MG 521 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: HS plus plus EV which was fifty thousand dollars, and 522 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: that's just that was to me, that wasn't bang for 523 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: your buck at all. 524 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: No, definitely not. 525 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: That MG is renowned for bang for your buck really, 526 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and that just doesn't fit in with what they've been 527 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: doing at all. What should we review next? I want 528 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: you to set me a challenge. I need you just 529 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: sent me another. Maybe maybe show up without food next episode? 530 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, trying it to have a heart attack between now 531 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: and our next episode. 532 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: How's that for a challenge. 533 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: We shouldn't fat shame. 534 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: I think I've got earn I shouldn't. 535 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 536 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm going to be a new man next episode. Yeah, 537 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to lose three kilos by next episode, probably 538 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: because I just took a shit. 539 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: Go drive a jeep. I just drove the Jeep Grand 540 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: Cherokee l and that was an alarming experience. Is that 541 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: the really expensive one they've just released. Yeah, right, one 542 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen grand for the one that I drove. Well, actually, 543 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: email us contact at the Drive show dot com dot 544 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: are you what do you want us to review? We 545 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 2: will be guided by you, guys. We want to know 546 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: what you want us to review. Yeah, because I'm curious 547 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: what people think and what they want. 548 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll drive a jeep. I'll do a jeep. Okay, 549 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: and can it be any can I pick? 550 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 551 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Because I don't want it to be that big luxury 552 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: thing just looked like a bit of a waste of money. 553 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: You wouldn't be wrong on that. 554 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifteen thousand, right. 555 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: The Summit Reserve sounds like a penfolds wine. 556 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: I don't I need a wine. 557 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: I need a wine to go with this bacon egg 558 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: wine at the start of every episode. 559 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Okay, now I know why you're friends with Trevor. 560 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Did he try and see you? In between our last 561 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: couple of episodes? 562 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: There was a letter and you know what I did. 563 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I sent, I wiped my ass with it, and I 564 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: returned it to him. I said, stick this on the fridge. 565 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: That your review anyway? 566 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: Ah? 567 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so fine. I'm going to finalize 568 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that Jeep episode coming up, because here's the thing I 569 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: quite like. I've always liked Jeeps. I know they went 570 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: through a terrible, terrible phase. 571 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: When did that end well? To me? 572 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Jeeps are one of those companies that you want them 573 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: to do well. Yeah, they just never just ah, I 574 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: pulled my hair out. 575 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: I feel about you. I just want you to do 576 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: well and then you know you rock up with all 577 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: that food. Please leave us a rating if you haven't 578 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: done so already, a five star rating on whichever platform 579 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: you listen. To share this podcast with your mates, if 580 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: you have any car friends. 581 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Even the tears that I'm crying actually smell like bacon grease. Yeah, 582 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: please do that. 583 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: And then if you do want to get in touch 584 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: with us, contact at the Drive Show dot com dodat you. 585 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: I promise we read every email that comes through, whether 586 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: it's good or bad. 587 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Back you can also yeah, obviously our socials as well, 588 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: the Drive Show dot com dot you on Instagram. There's 589 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: heaps there. Please follow us on that and send us 590 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: stuff on that. 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