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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers.

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Speaker 3: Now, slow things down, turn off the phone, turn off

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Speaker 3: the email, and just concentrate on our family, our goals,

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Speaker 3: the stuff that matters most, and enjoy being together.

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum

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Speaker 3: So we began this podcast about fifteen times because I

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Speaker 3: couldn't work out how to start it. Kylie really wanted

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Speaker 3: me to sing at the top of my lungs because

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Speaker 3: we've had a funny story happened in the last week

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Speaker 3: or so that we wanted to share with you. This

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Speaker 3: is doctor Justin Coulson. I'm the founder of Happy Families

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Speaker 3: dot com dot You'm here with Kylie, missus Happy Families

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Speaker 3: mum to our six daughters, and every Friday we talk

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Speaker 3: about I'll do better tomorrow, the reflections and responses to

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Speaker 3: the week that was, what worked, what didn't. How can

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Speaker 3: we be better parents if we were to be more

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Speaker 3: intentional about it starting.

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Speaker 1: Today tomorrow, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 3: Kylie, I want you to share this story because this

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Speaker 3: is really your experience. But before you do that, I

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Speaker 3: just want to make one quick mention and that is that.

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Speaker 1: The school holidays are here.

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Speaker 3: Today's the last day of school for the Eastern seaboard

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Speaker 3: at least, and oh my goodness, it feels so good.

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Speaker 3: First South Australia, Western Australia. One more week to go

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Speaker 3: and then everyone gets to breathe a sigh of relief.

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Speaker 3: Routine changes. Hopefully, if you're not in a lockdown place, you.

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Speaker 1: Get to go away. Woohoo. All right, I've got that

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Speaker 3: I'm just so I'm so excited for school holidays this

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to mention that.

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Speaker 3: So you had a funny story happened to you the

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Speaker 3: other day, and I reckon it deserves a couple of

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Speaker 2: I was chatting with a friend just the other day.

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Speaker 2: She's not even a mum yet, she's not even married yet.

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Speaker 2: not going to appreciate all of this beautiful music that's

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Speaker 3: I've experienced exactly the same fear because I care so

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Speaker 2: Well, you and I grew up in really different homes.

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Speaker 2: My mom was just a stickler for spiritual music, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you pretty much listened to more than tabernacle

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Speaker 2: Had to let me finish the conversation, I did.

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Speaker 3: In fairness, it's not most nights. It's probably one night

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Speaker 3: We've done off my my all time favorite music appreciation

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Speaker 1: Hell is for the way you look at me, Oh

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Speaker 3: This is the one where I dance with you in

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Speaker 1: So all of this is really just to say one

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Speaker 3: Teach them how great it is, even if you come

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Look, that was probably a little

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Speaker 3: We've probably spent a little bit too much time introducing

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Speaker 3: And I kind of cut you off just a second ago,

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Speaker 2: Older, what we're seeing is that all of that music

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and except for our one daughter who listens to

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Speaker 2: Share your kids stories about why these songs are important

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Speaker 3: First concert ever, first kiss, we're talking about music here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the song your first kiss?

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, okay, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: I'll do better tomorrow is like I said, coming up

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Speaker 3: in just to set this is where we reflect on

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Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast, The podcast for the time

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Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers Now, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it the music.

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Speaker 2: The music is just in me. Hey, I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go first because my one's short and simple.

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Speaker 3: We snuck away last Friday night? Your mum, out of

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Speaker 3: Friday night for us, we took off for a night away.

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Speaker 3: I'll do bet it tomorrow. Number one music appreciation. Be

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Speaker 2: And number three, if you're really really scared about making

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Speaker 3: That's right, And I really enjoyed eating all of that

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