WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Do You *Self-Pleasure* At Work? 🙈 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:04.640 lands were never seated. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.600 We pay our respects to their elders past and present. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.360 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:23.840 recorded on gadigal Land. Hi, guys, and welcome back to 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:24.840 another episode. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.440 Of Life Uncut. I'm Laura, I'm Kisha, and you are 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.920 particularly chirpy right now for someone who's not very medical. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:36.160 We've been away very caffeinated medicaid. I'm not medicated at all, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:36.880 but I am. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.640 I am caffeinated, and I am going to go into 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.440 my second coffee and I'm okay with that. It's because 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.680 we've been up since like five fucking thirty in the morning. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.840 We've had one interview before this, and now we've back 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:47.720 to back in today. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.600 Yeah, and I don't want to bread crumb everyone, but 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.840 that might be one of my favorite interviews ever. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.640 That is a bread crumb was Johan Hari. He's great, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.240 We love him. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.880 Yeah, it's all about diet drugs, so drugs like his zmpig. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:58.840 It's coming out very soon. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:00:59.160 Yeah. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.640 We've been wanting to do an episode on ozebic for 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.919 a very long time. It's been the top of my list, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.200 but finding someone to talk about it who's not promoting it, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.440 and also doing it in a way that is sensitive 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.160 to everything that we've spoken about in the past in 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.959 terms of fat shaming and the body positivity movement. It's 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.119 like almost like, how do you have those two conversations 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.080 at the same time, which is why we found your 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.440 hunt because he is amazing and he can do everything, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.000 and that is coming up very soon. But today is 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.160 ask gun cut where we answer, oh, you're deep, you're dark, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.440 and you're burning questions and Keisha, I have a question 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:33.720 for you. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:34.520 Now. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.440 I know you're not a mum, but I would like 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.840 to know how you would respond in this situation. So 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.840 yesterday I was getting Malee ready to get in the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.480 bath and she goes, hey, I know what the F 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:45.960 word is. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:47.880 Now, for anyone who doesn't know, Maley is four. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.720 She's four years old and she goes to preschool. She goes, 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.760 I know what the F word is? And I was like, oh, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.360 do you and she's like yeah, and the H word 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.120 and I was like, what's the hate. I'm still I'm 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.160 not sure about that. Anyway, I was like, what's the 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.320 F word? And she goes, fucking and I was like, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.600 I'm sorry, what and she goes, it's fucking and I 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.040 was like, I mean you could have just said fuck, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.920 but sure it is. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.920 It is also fucking. And I was like, how did 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.680 you know this? And she goes and it's also fuck 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:15.360 and I was like. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.480 Okay, please stop saying. Her sister was in the bath 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.760 next to her, like the two year old, and I 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.560 don't give a fuck. Yeah, she had it all. She 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.400 was like, here's the plural, here's all of the ways 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:27.600 in which you can say the word fuck. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.920 I'm kind of impressed by that. No I'm not. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.160 I am absolutely not. And I was like Marley, and 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.880 she goes, yeah, so you're not allowed to say it, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.280 but this is it. She kept saying it and saying 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.920 it and saying it, and I was like, Maley, you 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.080 need to stop saying that word now. It is very 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.560 very naughty. Come with me, we're going to go out 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.160 of the room. And she just kept saying it in front. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.120 Of Lawla and Lala was like, what's that word anyway? 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.320 So I take her out of the bathroom and I 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.120 sit her down and I was like, you're not in trouble, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.640 but it is a very very naughty word. I'm glad 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.359 that you told me that you know how to say it. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.160 I was like, but could you talk to me about why, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.240 you know, because we don't. We don't swear around her 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.400 as much as I swear so much. You guys probably 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.680 like what, we really try not to swear around her 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:05.079 at all? 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.000 Because it was such upstanding parents. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.040 Who taught you this word, so that I can crucify it, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.920 I was like, is it anakeisha? Probably she is a 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.480 smutty talker, so anyway, I asked her and she was like, oh, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.680 this boy at school and she said his name who? 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.919 She has said anytime the teachers aren't watching or listening, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.240 he will say swear words, but also says it to 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.600 other kids and more. Is just like trying to exercise 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.760 his right to use a word that he's obviously being told. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.240 He can't use. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.200 Sorry, I want to tell that little kid that he 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.480 can go get fucked. He's not telling Maley the fuck off. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.480 He's not telling her that he doesn't fucking like her. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.120 Who is he? I'm coming to daycare. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.640 I'll give you the name when we're not on record. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.839 This sounds stupid now that I'm saying it out loud. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.880 I'm like, Okay, it's so obvious. But I was like, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.240 do I call the daycare and dob on this four 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:48.720 year old? 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.640 Do I do it? Is that what we do? 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:50.800 Like? 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.000 Do I tell the daycare that this four year old 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.160 is doing this? Is it like? 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.560 Or am I being an over Am I being a 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.320 helicopter parent? Or is that a situation where you're like, look, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:59.440 the teacher should know. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.040 I grew up in a really quite a conservative environment, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.280 and I think there's a lot to making something a 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.080 forbidden fruit human nature. Is it just makes you want 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.960 it more, Like you're making a big deal out of it, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.120 and so they're just gonna do it more. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:13.640 That's my thing. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.080 I was like, is it making it a bigger problem 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.279 by singling him out and being like he is so naughty? 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.000 I mean his four he's just got bigger brothers. He 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.320 doesn't know how naughty it is. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:23.760 Yeah. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.400 I mean I can't speak from any lived experience whatsoever, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.680 because I'm not responsible for young children, But through my 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.600 own experience, I think if I was in this situation, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.800 I would eer on the side of like trying not 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.480 to even speak about it and make it something that's 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.839 super forbidden because like it's gonna happen at some point anyway. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.640 I mean, they're just gonna go to school. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.440 Soon, like it's going to be spoken about. People are 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.479 gonna say it. And I think that in my experience 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.279 because there was such an emphasis on swearing and you know, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.400 using the law's name in Vain and all these different things, 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.000 all these different rules in my household. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.280 Swearing and also using the lord's and again we're all together, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.839 all in compass. I've got Marley like fuck it, and 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.760 you're like, blasphemy, stop stop it. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.839 I wasn't allowed to say, Oh my gosh, okay, but 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:11.200 did it? 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.000 This is what I mean it was, So I've made 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.960 It's something that I am now kind of thinking maybe 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.920 if it wasn't something that was so forbidden, I wouldn't 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.320 have been so inclined to like think about it in 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.679 a cheeky way. So I don't know, Okay, it's hard 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.279 to say, because I guess every kid's different. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.560 I'm really on the fence with this. Hopefully by the 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.320 time you guys listen to this, slide into my DMS, 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.279 tell me what you think. I kind of want to 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.919 call the daycare and be like, hey, just keep an 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.000 ear to the ground. I kind of want to say 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.240 something only because I'm like, well, if she has come 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.520 to me and she's told me this information as a parent, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.320 am I supposed to do something with it? So she 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.120 feels like she's listened to And I don't know, There's 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.080 so many ways you can mess your kids up. I'm 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.119 just like, I'm trying to do with the least amount 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:58.039 of damage as possible. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.159 Therapy is going to be very expensive. One day, I 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.720 think it could be a bit of a carot by calling. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.920 There could be a secret option ce and it could 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.000 be that when you pick her up from dayk you 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.880 could maybe mention it to one of your favorite teachers 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.640 and just be like, look, I just want to let 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:15.440 you know that this happened. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.240 I don't necessarily want you to do anything about it. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.560 I'm just making you aware and you guys can make 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.000 your own decision on where you stand on it. But 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.480 this kind of feels to me right now like Britt 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.720 rousing on us because. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:32.040 One time, one time, it was our first ever. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.480 If you guys have watched the YouTube, the very first 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.560 time Kisha and I ever did an episode together was 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.360 Britt was away because she I think she was doing 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.960 fertility stuff at the time, and she made Scotland. Okay, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.839 she was in Scotland. We had issues with the Cross 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.960 Continent record. For everyone who's always like, why doesn't Bridges 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.960 move to Scotland and you guys can record from there. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.040 We've tried. It really doesn't work, that's the problem. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.000 Anyway, we couldn't do this record one day the internet 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.520 wasn't working. Keisha had to step in. There was a 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.800 lot of swearing at the start of the episode. It 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.040 was very funny though it. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:03.880 Was a bit unhinged, but also it was one of 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.760 those things where we kind of thought it was going 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.880 to be where we stopped down and like reset and 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.200 start the We were like, fine, this is actually really funny, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.600 and so we just left it and I thought it 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:16.080 was fine. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.960 I was like, yes, there's a lot of swearing. One 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.880 particular weather that came out of my mouth. Probably it 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.040 wasn't the effort. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.400 And I thought it was. I thought the juice was 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.200 worth the squeeze. And Britt reviewed that YouTube and she 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.760 was like, guys, this was crash as anything. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.200 We're like sorry, maule I was like, fuck off. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.880 Fine. She did call us to tell us it was 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.240 kind of like calling the daycare anyway. Now, you know, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.440 we got roused on by my boss. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.520 But you're equal, and so now you have to make 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.120 the decision as to whether you're going to be the 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.960 brit in this situation or whether you're going to be 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:50.520 the US. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.760 Maybe I'll make Matt be the brit that seems like 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.480 a better solution. Better solution, I will make Matt call 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.720 daycare and that I can pretend like I'm above this anyway. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.000 I'd love to know what you guys, if there's any 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.480 parents out there who have had to deal with this 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.800 type of thing. We are all just kind of making 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.800 our way through. I don't know what I'm doing as 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.440 a parent. I'm trying really hard, and I'm maybe doing 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.440 okay ninety percent of the time and the other ten percent. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.960 Yeah, I think you're doing way better than ninety percent 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.680 of the time. You have beautiful little girls who are 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.480 really polite and they've got gorgeous mind. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:17.960 I actually love your. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.360 Children, and I'm not like that with everyone's I'm like 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.960 that with my own nephews and your kids, and. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.960 That's pretty much it. That's a real compliment. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.960 We did have a bit of a go at me 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.480 last night, A go is a bit harsh, But you 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.440 mentioned to me while I was on the phone that I. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.439 Was on loudspeaker and I was swearing to him. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.920 Yeah, so I'm pretty sure it's this kid at daycare 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.560 and also Ani Keisha, that are the real culpras for 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.160 my children's potty mouth. Anyway, we have some actually, we 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.560 have such a good breadth of questions today. One of 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.520 them actually featured on the Facebook page and it got 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.880 you guys so riled up, and so we really wanted 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.719 to do a deep dive on that on the episode 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.680 that's coming up. But first it's time for vibes and unsubscribes. Keisha, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.600 what is your vibe or unsubscribe for the week. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.480 I mean, I already posted about my unsubscrib We spoke 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:01.200 about it on Tuesday. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.040 I'm not gonna mention it. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.480 You can't speak about the unsubscribed because it's also my vibe, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:06.440 So stop shitting on her. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:07.760 Okay, Okay, we'll get into that. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.000 I have an actual vibe this week, and I'm back 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.000 into the luxuries of sleep. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.120 No, I want to make this really clear before I 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:15.920 talk about it. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.120 I love Lynn and have been a sponsor of the 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.640 podcast before, but they weren't at all involved in this, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.640 like what as a normal customer. So I initially saw 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.200 this recommended on Kelly Finlayson, who I've had on the 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.880 podcast before, on her Instagram account. So it's a mattress topper. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:38.480 This one is called Hotel Cloud Collection. It is the softest, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:44.760 most comfortable. It feels like a hug from within mattress topper. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.080 It is delightful. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.319 I thought it was made of feathers, and to be honest, 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.120 I didn't look what it was made of before I 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.800 purchased it. I just went that looks really comfort. It 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.160 was recommended on her Instagram. Apparently heaps people wrote in 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:56.920 to her about it. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:58.680 I'm gonna get one. It looks great. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.000 I purchased while it was on sale, so I got 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.040 it for two fifty nine, which is currently what the 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.480 price is if you go onto the website. And I 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.800 just assumed, oh my gosh, these feathers are so cozy. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.200 Turns out no, it's actually vegan. It's some microfiber filling 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.040 that feels like feathers and silk. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.240 And I actually can guarantee you no ducks were killed 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.320 for this, No chickens were plucked. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.040 It is so comfortable. It has been the greatest joy 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.320 of my last week. And I vibe the heck out 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:27.600 of it. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.920 What is the what's the brand? Evan? I love linen. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.480 I love linen. And it's a mattress topper. Yeah, so 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.199 you know the things that you put like a if 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.000 you have a not a mattress topper. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.839 Is you're gonna go into the detail of explaining it. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.920 That thing that you top on a mattress, it goes under. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.960 Your fit sheet, has a strap goes on, So it's 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.560 kind of a It's a couple inches thick, and it 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.840 seems to be in these little squares of what I 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.920 assumed to a feathers turns out not feathers, but that's 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.560 what it feels like. And so as you lay into it, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.200 it just feels as though it's giving you this like 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.360 little cloud cuddle. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.360 And it's so I am enjoying that we're back in 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:02.439 the sleep hygiene era. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.319 I've had really bad sleep lately. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.800 It's a very sleep Hygiene's like a real twenty twenty thing, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.960 isn't it if the elixir of life? Laura, It's like 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.280 I spars and sleep hygiene and I don't know what 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.199 are the rest of it used to be infrared saunas 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.920 like these are it. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.320 Firstly, it's free micro dosing, like it's all the same. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.520 Oh God, we're not gonna get to get into micro 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:26.800 dosing anyway. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.559 It is my vibe for the week. I love it. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.480 If you're in the market for a mattress topper, highly recommend. Okay, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.040 I have two recommendations this week. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.400 One of them is something that I've actually had for 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.600 a while, but I discovered a feature about it which 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.800 has made me love it so much more. So. I 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.640 have two Koala couches, you know, Cooala mattresses, so coal mattresses. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.360 I've never had one, but every influencer under the sun 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.959 talks about Coala mattresses. I'm sure they're great, and I'm 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.200 sure they're also getting paid to say so. I am 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.320 not getting paid to say that their couches are great, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.079 just putting that out there. So I have their fold 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.319 out couch, which is like like. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.560 A sofa bed fold out that goes in our spare room. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.480 But then I also have like their couch couch, but 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.800 like a three and a half seater big couch in 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:12.760 our lound room. The fold out one is super practical. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.880 It's really really convenient. It's a bit too hard, needs 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.160 a good topper, so that's great. You could get it 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.200 too far. That's my review on that. But the actual 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:22.920 big couch that we have in our lound room is 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.880 fucking fantastic. And the reason why I'm recommending it is 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:30.640 because only this weekend I discovered because it doesn't you know, normally, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.360 when you can remove the covers of a couch, it 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.319 looks like a couch that you can remove the covers of. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.400 The covers never quite fit well on it. It looks 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.360 as though it's a bit ill fitting. All the covers 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.560 are always a little bit too big for the couch itself. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.640 So I never ever realized that you could remove the 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.560 couch covers of this Koala couch and chuck them straight 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.520 in the washing machine until I dropped an entire glass 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.839 of red wine on it on Sunday night, and then 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.400 I was like, well, that's the that's the couch gone. Anyway, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.760 Matt was like, I wonder if you can take these 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.840 off lo and behold the couch covers come off. They 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.360 went in the machine and the couch looks brand new. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.240 So if you've been considering a. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.320 Koala Couch high highly highly highly recommend and then my 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.920 last and very quick recommendation, which I know we spoke 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.480 about it at the very end of yesterday's episode, sorry, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.640 Tuesday's episode, but that is Baby Reindeer. I have watched 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.960 the whole thing now and I think it is brilliant. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.360 I think it is brilliantly shot. It's on Netflix if 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.119 you haven't seen it. It's been widely talked about, widely recommended. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.600 It is a really incredible, well documented story and the 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.040 main actor in it is also the writer of it. 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.200 It is a true story or true from his experience, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.360 and it's all around stalking, and it features around a 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.480 female stalker, which I don't think you see as often. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.959 But it is very, very, very brilliantly done. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.400 I have my own opinions on it, but I. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.920 Have actually seen a lot of publication in the last 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.720 twenty four hours about how he is quite actively asking 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.120 people to stop looking into who the real Matha is. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.640 To me, this just seems like such a full circle conversation. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:07.040 Because she stalked him, He's now created this huge sensational 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.920 TV show about it, and now people are stalking her 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.480 and he's kind of toying with the idea that he's 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.200 made this so insanely public that she's going to suffer 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:19.880 at the bottom of the pylon, and I think he's 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.840 having some complex feelings about it. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.200 It's a very I mean, if you guys haven't seen 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.320 Baby reind yet, I don't want to spoil anything for you, 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.080 but yeah, it does feature around Martha. She is the 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.640 person who's stalking You've discovered that in the first episode. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.360 I think it even comes up in the bio. Yeah. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.000 I guess for me, I have some complex feelings around 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.800 and this is probably an unfair thing to say, but 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.760 it's almost around the like what did you expect? Because 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.880 I think if you go so hard with the this 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.280 is a true story, but you only tell the parts 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.160 of it that. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.680 You know, you give people so much. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.480 Of course, people are gonna want answers, and that's just 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.680 the result of being invested in the series. I'm not 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.080 saying that that is okay. I think it is deeply 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.640 fundamentally wrong. I mean, this woman's she's already paid the 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.280 price for what she has done. There is another person 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.320 who is in the movie, who I think or in 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.200 the show, who I think should be getting more airtime. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.240 It is somebody who has not yet paid the price 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.400 for the crimes in which they committed, and it's around 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.120 sexual assault, it's around grooming, and I think that that 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.040 person should really be where the audience is focusing their 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.480 attention and focusing their interest. But I mean, I'm talking 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.600 about the show purely from like an entertainment perspective, purely 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.800 from viewing it and thinking it was really quite a 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.880 fascinating and I wouldn't say it's enjoyable, but it makes 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.800 you feel something to watch it. But I do question 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.960 when something is a true story, it's a true story 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.920 from one person's perspective, from one person's lived experience, and 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.720 so it is very one dimensional in that case, and 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.320 I think it's unfair when as an audience we try 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.600 and get more information or try and fit the pieces 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.600 of puzzle together, because there's real people at the end 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:50.880 of the day who are affected by this. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.160 I actually find this whole conversation really really fascinating because, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.360 on one hand, any time you speak in a public space, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.320 and this could be done on your own Instagram count, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.680 you know that is somewhat of. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:02.840 A public broadcast. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.440 There is that deliberation between what is my story and 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.600 my lived experience and how much sensitivity do I need 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.840 to provide and privacy do I need to provide for 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.360 the other people in my life who have been a 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.480 part of my life. And it's something that I remember 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.520 back in my very early days of radio, I crossed 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.720 that line a little bit, like occasionally, not hugely, but 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.760 every now and then I would have someone in my life, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.000 like my mum was one of them, and she was like, Hey, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.080 I heard this thing that you said on the radio. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.360 Could you just like not talk about that publicly because 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.000 I just I'm just I don't want that to be 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:37.960 a story. And I just find that concept very interesting 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.360 because I don't know where you can draw the line 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.920 because for every person it will be different. But also, 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.520 how are we going to have any progression of you know, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.960 real lessons. I guess if we're not telling the stories 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.600