WEBVTT - Party partners: who pays for the drinks?

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<v Speaker 1>You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the most loving relationships can hit rough patches. But

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when the fights can't be resolved? You come

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<v Speaker 2>to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and my decision

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<v Speaker 2>is final. You better be ready to hear my ruling.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom has brought his partner Darren to Judge Gina. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>claims he is the only one who buys drinks when

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<v Speaker 1>the couple go out on the town. Tom is seeking

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred dollars in financial compensation for rounds of drinks

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<v Speaker 1>brought over a period of several years.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, guys, my name is Tom Gay from the USA,

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<v Speaker 3>and you may have known me from TV commercials. Could

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<v Speaker 3>be running the world's largest inflatable theme park, actor, model,

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<v Speaker 3>TV presenter. But yes, you might know me from like

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<v Speaker 3>the club on Oxford Street.

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<v Speaker 4>So my name is Darren bought in Sydney, live in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>I work in construction and you would know me from

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<v Speaker 4>being Tom Gay from the USA's partner.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've come to Judge Dina today because I love

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<v Speaker 3>going to these fancy nightclubs in Sydney and the only

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<v Speaker 3>way to get my partner to come out is that

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have to buy him drinks. And I think enough

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<v Speaker 3>is enough, especially when I see him having way too

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<v Speaker 3>much fun today.

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<v Speaker 4>I want Tom to keep paying for my drinks because

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a fair arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>Court is now in session. Please rise for Judge Chaina.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Tom and Darren.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Well excited today, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>hungover from last night. But we're going to speak the

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<v Speaker 3>truth today.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start right from the beginning. So how did you too? Mate?

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<v Speaker 3>So we met. We met at Goodbar on August the

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<v Speaker 3>eleventh of twenty eighteen. I remember Darren coming up to

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<v Speaker 3>me and he was like, hey, mate, like nice outfit,

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<v Speaker 3>Like are you gay? And I'm like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent, eighty percent, whatever you want. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>the start. That was the first conversation we had. And

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<v Speaker 3>as we as we went downstairs in the nightclub, I

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<v Speaker 3>saw Darren in the back of the distance he was

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<v Speaker 3>giving me I, I was given him I And then

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<v Speaker 3>I just decided to get up there and just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of go and do a little cheeky little dance with

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<v Speaker 3>him and then trying to keep this as peg as

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<v Speaker 3>possible right now, and A few things happened, took him

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<v Speaker 3>to the back corner, some other things happened, and then

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<v Speaker 3>at one point, I, after this series of events happened,

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<v Speaker 3>which once again we're keeping a PG, I turned around

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<v Speaker 3>and asked him. I was like, wait, mate, are you straight?

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<v Speaker 3>And then it was yeah, I've kind of really never

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<v Speaker 3>done these things before. Blah blah blah, and the rest

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<v Speaker 3>is history. So now we're here, So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You had someone turned for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, That's the story. He tells too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I was pretty drunk, saw some guy out of dance floor,

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<v Speaker 4>and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Moved in that weekend practically.

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<v Speaker 2>And what sort of things do you do when you

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<v Speaker 2>go out? What would you describe as a fun time?

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it g rated please.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my fun time is a bit different than Darren's. However,

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy the night life. I enjoy clubbing, I enjoy dancing,

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<v Speaker 3>and Darren is a an outdoors, fun, excitable character.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for speaking for me. He's not too far

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<v Speaker 4>from the truth. So I do love the outdoors that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff. I'd probably go see a band more

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<v Speaker 4>than i'd go to a night club dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you like going out, Darren?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I enjoy it, like in moderation, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>H So have you always known that Darren doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>like going out?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a struggle because Darren does like going out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he underplays this little bit more than I

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<v Speaker 3>think people are assuming, Like I've seen Darren dancing around

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<v Speaker 3>till morning time till sunrise. So no comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So how often do you go clubbing? Is this weekly?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably? Yeah? Yeah, it can be yeah, probably like four

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<v Speaker 3>nights out of a week. Oh, he starts on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom, do you work?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I don't know what he does that for. Honestly, Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you do? I'm an actor, model, TV presenter,

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<v Speaker 3>and I also run the world's largest inflatable theme park.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And so does that require you to be up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and have a sleep routine?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really. I mean I work from home. You can

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<v Speaker 3>work remotely these days. Besides, there's twenty four hours in

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<v Speaker 3>a day. You can do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom. You say that you loved going out and you

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<v Speaker 2>love to party, and you do that four nights a week?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>From Wednesday to start?

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<v Speaker 3>Is correct? That's correct? If I could do it every

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<v Speaker 3>single night, I probably would.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And you're based in Sydney, are you, yes, bas

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<v Speaker 2>okay and Darren you're an engineer correct, yes? And so

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<v Speaker 2>do you work every day the week like five days

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<v Speaker 2>full time?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, and so but you're going out on a

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday to a Sunday night?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going out the four nights a week?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he is, yeah, what about you? Well, not that

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<v Speaker 4>often previously. Yeah, maybe two to three nights a week.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it's tough too, because it's not just an

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<v Speaker 4>eight hour day. Sometimes they're like ten hour days even longer.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, like busy working schedule and then also

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<v Speaker 4>on top of it, yeah, getting dragged out to nightclubs midweek.

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<v Speaker 2>So why are you here today? What's your beef?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm here today judged you know, is because we've

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<v Speaker 3>had a pre arrangement of to get Darren to come

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<v Speaker 3>out and to stay out with me, I have to

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<v Speaker 3>buy him drinks. I've decided no more. I am no

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<v Speaker 3>longer paying for his drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>How did this arrangement come about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to me, it was all fun. It was all

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<v Speaker 3>fun and games until one day. To me, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like Darren just had enough. We had enough of going

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<v Speaker 3>out and coming out and staying out to the early mornings.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I had to whip a trick out of

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<v Speaker 3>the old book of the Oh look.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I started to realize nothing really good happens

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<v Speaker 4>after twelve twelve am anymore so.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Tom, you've come up with this old trick,

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<v Speaker 2>as you've called it, to pay for his drinks to

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<v Speaker 2>entice him to come out, and you've been doing that

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<v Speaker 2>for two and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Years and it's worked.

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<v Speaker 2>So when did you get the idea that you would

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<v Speaker 2>buy Darren his drinks?

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of came up with it together. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>turned into a point where I really love going to

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<v Speaker 3>these these fancy nightclubs, these you know, launch events, and

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<v Speaker 3>Darren's not so much into the whole Instagram taking photos,

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<v Speaker 3>doing videos, and we've gotten to a point to get

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<v Speaker 3>him to come out, he needs to be a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit tipsy. And if that's the way, that was the way.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've come to that conclusion of will I will

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<v Speaker 3>pay for Darren's drink to get him to stay out,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the arrangement.

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<v Speaker 2>And how long have you been buying his drinks? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, like two and a half years now, two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And is he a big drinker? Is that a costly

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<v Speaker 2>thing for you to be buying him drinks?

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<v Speaker 3>He's ausy? Of course, of course it's costly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so how much do you spend on drinks when

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<v Speaker 2>you go out together clubbing?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say a good one hundred and fifty to

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred in a night just for Darren.

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<v Speaker 2>Darren, did you know that? Did you know he was

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<v Speaker 2>spending one hundred and fifty to two hundred Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you guys are like the nicest nightclubs in Sydney

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like twenty five dollars for a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you're not holding back there obviously you're having

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty to two hundred dollars worth of drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>So why do you insist that Darren comes out with you? Tom?

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<v Speaker 3>I want him there, Like as a loving partner, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always good to have kind of your partner in crime

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<v Speaker 3>next to you getting up to all crazy shenanikins and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel I love going out, but there are moments

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<v Speaker 3>in my life when I just want my partner next

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Darren, are you not willing to go out with

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<v Speaker 2>him unless he pays for your drinks? Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>it's come to like?

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it tends to be the same same thing

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<v Speaker 4>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, what do you like to do for fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So I like to go down to the pub with

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of mates, you know, familiar, familiar territory, just relaxed,

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<v Speaker 4>sit down and have a few drinks with friends. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe sometimes get a little bit crazy, but yeah, just

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<v Speaker 4>away from the dark, dirty nightclubs, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So you like a dark, dirty pub? And does Darren

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<v Speaker 2>pay for your drinks or food when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the pub?

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<v Speaker 4>Norely comes that's the issue here, Okay, No, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, no offensing to clubs at orly pubs

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<v Speaker 3>at all. But I just can't sit there. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>watch footy, I can't even drink a beer. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not my vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you two doing together? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>You should see what I have to You should see

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<v Speaker 4>what I have to put up with it when every

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<v Speaker 4>single time we go to club Sultan Pepper. Obviously obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you've heard high. It's not just Tom, It's I'm Tom

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<v Speaker 4>and gay from the USA. Yes, I dare you judge

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<v Speaker 4>Gina to ask Tom where he's from?

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<v Speaker 3>So mind you, I have to hear this.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard this over a thousand times and I could

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<v Speaker 4>almost run the spiel off myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But ask Tom where he's from?

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<v Speaker 2>IM a bit worried about that. Tom, am I allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you where you're from?

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Gay from the USA? Born in Cleveland, Ohio, Griven Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>d C. Lived in La Miami, New York. We've been

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<v Speaker 3>Spain for a year and now I live here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's he is born in Cleveland. His parents

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<v Speaker 4>are from Cleveland. He's from Cleveland, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>And so how often do you go to the pub

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<v Speaker 2>with Darren and how often does Aaron go at clubbing

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Man, I would say that that's definitely not a

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<v Speaker 3>fifty fifty split. I mean, when Darren goes to the pub,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll ask me, as a courtesy, do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>come with me? And I'll say yes or no. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>but if I go, I'm there for one drink to

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<v Speaker 3>say hello, show my face, and then I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>He barely puts a foot in the door before he's

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<v Speaker 4>almost outside of public.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fifty to fifty but very short. Short stays.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, short stays. When I go out with him, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>out till four am in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well that sounds like you're having fun then.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm, this is why we're here.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay it I mean after two or three drink,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would suggest that what you do for

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<v Speaker 2>fun is you go out clubbing. Have you worked that out? Darren?

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<v Speaker 3>We help me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a question for Darren.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I do I do? It's not It's not my

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<v Speaker 4>number one choice. So for him to persuade me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I get him to pay for the drinks. I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be spending one hundred and fifty dollars a night for

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere like I can really, I don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but you're not spending one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>at night. Clearly Tom is spending one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>at night?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you Tom?

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<v Speaker 3>I am thirty one years old?

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<v Speaker 2>And how old are you Darren?

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's lying, are you forty or thirty five?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm forty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, there you go. Okay, so you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>bit tired are you Darling.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what, like I think, you know, age

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<v Speaker 3>is just a number, and I think days a new

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<v Speaker 3>day until you get maybe I'll see you in the

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<v Speaker 3>next eight years and then we can we can get.

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<v Speaker 2>Back know about it. It's a very interesting dynamic. Why

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<v Speaker 2>are you together?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you know it's a little bit of yin and

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<v Speaker 3>yang in Sulton Papa babyes. So I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I could be happy with someone exactly like me.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the energy levels would just keep raising

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<v Speaker 3>each other up. I feel Darren has been so helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the past four and a half years

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<v Speaker 3>it's because he has kind of settled me down. He's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of pulled me back, you know, and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>really brought me, you know, into this country, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>living in Australia. It's it's been amazing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't always need to be the American that I

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<v Speaker 3>once knew it myself has you know, So yeah, kudos

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<v Speaker 3>to Darren for putting up for it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the American that you once were?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not stereotype but loud, slightly obnoxious, steric, excitable center

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<v Speaker 4>of the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the stage isn't quite big enough for two Toms. No,

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you want me to do today?

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<v Speaker 3>I want you. I want you to at least find

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<v Speaker 3>a solution to this problem. Potentially, hopefully we can come

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<v Speaker 3>to an arrangement where I'm no longer having to spend

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred dollars, especially if I see Darren having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. So the whole the reason behind it is

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<v Speaker 3>to get Darren to come out is because it's assumed

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<v Speaker 3>that he's not gonna have fun, he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be there, Okay, But the moment I start to see

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<v Speaker 3>him enjoying that his life, enjoying those moments, and he

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<v Speaker 3>coming up to me, let's get another round, Well that's

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<v Speaker 3>a point. That's a line that I'm gonna draw, because

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<v Speaker 3>now it sounds like he wants to be.

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<v Speaker 2>There, all right, Darren, Why don't you just say no

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to go out?

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<v Speaker 3>I do, and I do it many people.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you say no, Well you do want to go out?

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<v Speaker 4>I do say no, Okay, no, I'm gonna go down

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<v Speaker 4>the pub. I'm gonna hang out with my friends, hang

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<v Speaker 4>up my brother, do some things just around the area.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do say no.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you insist that Tom comes out with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things he doesn't want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I do? I do? I say, come?

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<v Speaker 4>You know obviously my brother lives down the road for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, got family there, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>come come, everyone wants to see you. Come hang out

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<v Speaker 4>for a little bit. Very rarely does because he's doing

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<v Speaker 4>his own thing. So yeah, I'd be happy if he

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<v Speaker 4>came out with me a little bit more so, Mike,

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<v Speaker 4>if I ever had a counterclaim, it would actually be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, come with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what do you do to spend time together

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<v Speaker 2>rather than nightclubs? Do you go to travel?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you? Yeah? We do. We do.

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<v Speaker 4>We travel a lot together and obviously even last weekend

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<v Speaker 4>we'll Downagenolan Caves, so we had a there's a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of big weekends and then so so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the end of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom, What do you say about Darren not going out

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just have the cake and eat it please?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the problem is you can't force someone to do

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<v Speaker 2>something they don't want to do. You see, even in law,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't force someone to do something. You can force

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<v Speaker 2>them to pay if they don't want to pay, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can't actually make someone do something they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So can we come up with like a kind of claim.

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<v Speaker 2>You're putting in the claim? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to claim? And a counterclaim? Tell me, enlighten me?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the strategy with love?

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<v Speaker 3>If I start to add up drinks per night that

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<v Speaker 3>we go out in terms of dullar amount, I either

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<v Speaker 3>want I want someone of that back. I want someone

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<v Speaker 3>I want some of that money.

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<v Speaker 2>About going forward or in the past moving?

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<v Speaker 4>I want the past and going forward because who goes

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<v Speaker 4>here his money, here's free drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually give it all back.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm gonna start going around the house and collecting

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<v Speaker 4>all the presents that I bought you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's scooter to use every single day. Take it right back.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been living in the same house for four years,

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half years, and so what's the set

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<v Speaker 2>up there? Who pays for wash? And I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>the breakdown? How do you? How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it shared expenses?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So we have a joint bank account, which is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything is split down the middle from rent to took him

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<v Speaker 3>a while. I was very reluctant at paying rent when

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<v Speaker 3>I first.

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<v Speaker 4>With the friendly word on the radio. Very frugal, surprisingly surprisingly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's very generous.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very surprising arrangements. That's how Yeah, because that's how

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<v Speaker 4>you get.

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<v Speaker 3>What you want in life's throw money at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I think I've got things in life

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<v Speaker 2>without throwing money up. It's a very interesting idea. So

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<v Speaker 2>you split everything halfway? Yes, yeah, right, except for buying drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Which comes out of my personal expense account.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we do have.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, like we have one joint account and two separate ones,

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<v Speaker 4>and we kind of just use that joint account for

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<v Speaker 4>all joint expenses.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, all right, And when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>dinner at a restaurant, who pays?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you split that? Yes, short answer, yes, but it

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<v Speaker 3>depends on the occasion. If it's my birth there, Darren's

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<v Speaker 3>birth there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's only these nightclubs. It's only nightclubs that Tom

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<v Speaker 2>takes you too, Darren, and that he pays.

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<v Speaker 3>It's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's it, all right, And you've done that for

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half years. Do you get along with

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<v Speaker 2>each other's friends, like, do you have the same social group?

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<v Speaker 4>A good question, very good question. His friends are lovely, lovely, lovely,

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<v Speaker 4>lovely people. Just my crowd's a little different. I'm not there,

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<v Speaker 4>and no disrespect, well whatsoever. I understand that Instagram is

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<v Speaker 4>a very fun way to promote things, and yeah, get

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<v Speaker 4>free drinks as well, sometimes a complement drinks. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so not my crowd, you know, like I love them

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<v Speaker 4>the death actually, but it's yeah, my my crowd's more

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<v Speaker 4>hang out the part of this new band, have a beer,

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<v Speaker 4>have a laugh, talk about some sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Answer the question we get along, don't get along?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all friends get along. Yes, my friends are very

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<v Speaker 3>models influencers.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiktoker's okay, So can I ask you? How much do

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<v Speaker 2>you think you've spent on drinks for Darren in the

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<v Speaker 2>past two.

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<v Speaker 3>And a half years. Give let me do some quick math.

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<v Speaker 2>And while while you're doing that, Tom, Darren, how much

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<v Speaker 2>have you spent on Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, not too much, not too much, says he's never

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<v Speaker 4>at the pub. So yeah, because I've come up with

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<v Speaker 4>this figure. This this is just a rough draft over

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<v Speaker 4>the past just one year.

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<v Speaker 2>And how much is that then?

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<v Speaker 3>Five two hundred bucks in drinks and that it's based

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<v Speaker 3>on half of a year going out for at least

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six of those.

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<v Speaker 4>Na, I mean, I'll give you fifty bucks. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you said it before, are your honor? You said it before.

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<v Speaker 4>He's given that to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He has given that to you. So this is the

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<v Speaker 2>next question. Can I ask you Tom, have you raised

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<v Speaker 2>this with Darren in the past, that you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for his drinks?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago was that?

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<v Speaker 3>This is probably three and a half weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And how much have you spent in drinks in the

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half weeks since you've said this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Since then? Probably close to We've went

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<v Speaker 3>out at least three three three times. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>six hundred bucks, six hundred, do not recall the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but you're willing to pay for the first round

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<v Speaker 2>of drinks?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, so what's six hundred less the first round

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<v Speaker 2>of drinks?

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<v Speaker 3>Four hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>About four hundred it is, it's about four hundred dollars. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to deliberate and I'll be back with you shortly.

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<v Speaker 3>Your honor, Before you go, can you please taken consideration

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<v Speaker 3>for any future things that are going to happen and

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<v Speaker 3>occur a mine in Darren's life of going out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Gina, and he is deliberating and will soon hand

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<v Speaker 1>down her verdict. Please do not leave the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tom and Darren, you're a couple from Sydney and

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<v Speaker 2>you live together and you have done so for about

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half years. And Tom you very act.

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<v Speaker 2>Going from what I see and from what I hear,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a model, an actor, presenter, and your own you

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<v Speaker 2>own your own or what you say to be the

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<v Speaker 2>world's largest inflatable theme park. And Darren you're an engineer

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<v Speaker 2>and you're from Paramatta. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay. You have this arrangement where you live together

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<v Speaker 2>and you split your expenses except for on the occasion

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<v Speaker 2>when or on the occasions it sounds like when Tom

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<v Speaker 2>takes you out to nightclubs you are ten those nightclubs

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<v Speaker 2>is contingent on him paying for your drinks. This is correct,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, But about three and a half weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>Tom has approached you and said, well, he's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>happy with that arrangement, and since then he's spent probably

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<v Speaker 2>about six hundred dollars worth of drinks. But he does

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<v Speaker 2>say today that he'd be willing to pay for your

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<v Speaker 2>first round of drinks. But despite the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>said to you that he's not willing to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>your drinks, you've continued to allow him to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've continued to go out partying with him where

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<v Speaker 2>he's incurred that additional cost. So I've calculated that in

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<v Speaker 2>the last three and a half weeks, if they're six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars worth of drinks, that if Tom was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to pay the first round of drinks, that that probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have only cost him a couple of hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's out of pocket and additional four hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on the basis that he was not really willing or

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<v Speaker 2>happy to pay for those drinks. And in my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>and under the circumstance answers, I would say, Darren, that

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<v Speaker 2>you've actually exploited your partner there, and that you've taken

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of him. So I'm going to award Tom four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I will take that.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of going forward, I would say that you

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<v Speaker 2>to are at liberty to come to any agreement that

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<v Speaker 2>you like, obviously subject to one or the other exploiting

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<v Speaker 2>each other. And I would suggest and I would decide

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<v Speaker 2>on your behalf because obviously this is a sticking point

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<v Speaker 2>in your relationship. So I will decide on your behalf

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<v Speaker 2>that going forward, Tom continue to pay for the first

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<v Speaker 2>round of drinks, and that Darren, you're on your own

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<v Speaker 2>after that. Thank you. My decision is final.

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<v Speaker 3>So today's experience, I walked away a winner in this sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to have my partner come up with me

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<v Speaker 3>every time I want to go clubbing and the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing I have to do is buying one drink. And

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<v Speaker 3>on top of that, I got four hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 4>About today's outcome, I feel like it's a little unfair.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she called Darren out and exactly what he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to be called out on, and yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 3>happily pay one drink for every time he comes out

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<v Speaker 3>clubbing with me. I think Gena's treatment of me was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fair.

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<v Speaker 4>She did call me out and say that I was

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a little bit too old and too tired for clubbing,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a little distressing. So I feel like Gina

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<v Speaker 4>has resolved this disagreement. As long as I still get

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<v Speaker 4>at least one free drink when we go out, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna stick with that and be happy.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day. I will always love

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<v Speaker 3>Darren and this will not affect Mine in his relationship whatsoever.

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